The B58 Should Not Be Making This Much Power With A Simple Tune! (M340i, A90 Supra)

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Жыл бұрын

Finally got the Supra's DME unlocked and now it's time to party! Before we install the big turbo kit that I purchased, I wanted to see how much power we can make with the stock turbos and a simple tune anyone can do at home. The results results are pretty shocking! The BMW B58 engine is no joke!
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@Cykoid
@Cykoid Жыл бұрын
once you get over the childish argument that its not a "true Supra" or "it's just a BMW" you'll find its one of the most capable and exciting cars of this decade so far
@apexriders_
@apexriders_ 10 ай бұрын
It's a bmw supra. Prove me wrong
@Cykoid
@Cykoid 10 ай бұрын
@@apexriders_ is a Pagani Huayra an AMG?
@noahismail3884
@noahismail3884 10 ай бұрын
​@@apexriders_ Lamborghini Volkswagen?
@miguelosterroht
@miguelosterroht 10 ай бұрын
@@apexriders_so a McLaren F1 is trash because it has a BMW engine. Most legendary car ever made.
@____-gy5mq
@____-gy5mq 9 ай бұрын
@@miguelosterroht isn't it a mercedes benz engine though?
@kayd9597
@kayd9597 Жыл бұрын
Basically the modern version of the 2JZ. No wonder Toyato chose this engine 👌
@kayd9597
@kayd9597 Жыл бұрын
@Kris Nicholson I know, I've been a mechanic for years. I think you've missed the point. Think similarities my friend, what have both engines got in common 🤔
@recon1673
@recon1673 Жыл бұрын
@Kris Nicholson Well that's probably what he means. I mean theyre both Inline-6 and do a bunch of power. Imo B58 sounds better than 2J😅
@kayd9597
@kayd9597 Жыл бұрын
@@recon1673 yes, thank you 😊 I thought it was obvious. The architecture is going to be different being decades apart. However, having worked on both they are more similar than one would think ✌
@justagirlthathateslgbtq4
@justagirlthathateslgbtq4 Жыл бұрын
@The Stalker Files. ur so full of hate tho,its an amazing engine,only difference is that it’s modern and has better technology
@LordToxygene
@LordToxygene Жыл бұрын
There was a documentary done on the car and Toyota had to send just about every part of that stupid BMW engine back to be redesigned to meet their reliability spec. Don't believe me, go look it up. It's somewhere on KZfaq. My girl has a BMW and I hate everything about the car and so I hate seeing that BMW styled interior in the Supra.
@fgj8379
@fgj8379 Жыл бұрын
Wow. No wonder people really like these cars, the tuning capability is insane. Can't wait to see what's next for your build!
@MASSIVEsock
@MASSIVEsock Жыл бұрын
and every cringe supra fanboy without a clue still thinks that the 2j is the only engine you should have in any car period. I said it when this supra released, its RWD, straight 6, turboed and incredible loooking. Literally couldnt ask for more
@alv1n383
@alv1n383 Жыл бұрын
@@MASSIVEsock I think that most people were just angry that it is mostly BMW with different chassis those who know something know that B58 is the best I6 in production with great upgrade and tune potential
@sslum
@sslum Жыл бұрын
They dont like them becuase JDM fugboys think Toyota are the only ones who can make a worthy engine. Theyre dead wrong
@patthonsirilim5739
@patthonsirilim5739 7 ай бұрын
even in stock form the car is pretty fast i know owner who only do aero handaling and cooling mods and are slaying it on the track with stock power just intake and exhuast chasing down 911.
@SoopaGaming
@SoopaGaming 10 ай бұрын
I went from n54, to an n55, and just got a 17 440i with the b58 and i cannot wait to get into modding and tuning for this beast.
@chrisrasco7519
@chrisrasco7519 Жыл бұрын
Your videos are very direct informative and to the point great content brother!
@jimbo7018
@jimbo7018 Жыл бұрын
Wow 370 at the wheel stock is huge! Must be in line with the M2 S55. Congrats and thanks for a great video!
@braydenbest9448
@braydenbest9448 Жыл бұрын
the engines awesome sounds immaculate and is a very good daily driver with endless mod options for the entire car.
@Ripperx121
@Ripperx121 Жыл бұрын
Great numbers out that car I would be very happy with that! I have 2020 X3M and you're beating that. That motor is sooooo impressive!
@gxp99
@gxp99 Жыл бұрын
Supra owner: simple tune Reality: downpipe, exhaust, charge cooler, heat exchanger, auxiliary rads, tires, ethanol and tune
@gord6695
@gord6695 Жыл бұрын
Glad someone els noticed lol
@luqmaanjoseph
@luqmaanjoseph Жыл бұрын
The car only needs a downpipe in order to flash that tune. The coolers and wheels etc is just there for when he pushes the car more in future I’m guessing with big turbo etc.
@350z33hr
@350z33hr 3 ай бұрын
You don't own one and have no clue 😂🤡
@350z33hr
@350z33hr 3 ай бұрын
@@gord6695You don't own one
@gord6695
@gord6695 3 ай бұрын
@@350z33hr speak when you are spoken to boy . men are talking shh
@speedstarz_media647
@speedstarz_media647 Жыл бұрын
They are just absolutely incredible motors
@cameronrussell9362
@cameronrussell9362 Жыл бұрын
As a owner of a B58 with over 600whp, I absolutely agree that these motors are wonderful. So much torque, very refined and a firecracker when you want. A masterpiece.
@jkfsh9582
@jkfsh9582 Жыл бұрын
@@cameronrussell9362 any reliability issues long term yet?
@fzr1000981
@fzr1000981 Жыл бұрын
Not really, plastic oil pump parts and known for oil consumption. S58 is vastly superior motor
@derekgardin1512
@derekgardin1512 Жыл бұрын
@@fzr1000981 it's also only found in much more expensive cars.
@fzr1000981
@fzr1000981 Жыл бұрын
@derekgardin1512 the new M2 isn't crazy expensive
@jacobhauenstein
@jacobhauenstein Жыл бұрын
I look forward to owning a b58 some time, coming from N54 the b58 fixes almost all the major issues and the support for mods is amazing.
@DontPanicDear
@DontPanicDear Жыл бұрын
I too came from a 420bhp N54 E82. I was lucky and managed 50,000miles with no issues 😀 (Skipped the N55 and all the F series chassis) Expecting delivery of a G24 M240i in a few weeks. I’m more risk averse these days (older 😮) so want warranty, so I’ve decided to pay handsomely for the AC Schnitzer performance box. No way I’m chasing numbers like this guy. +50bhp / 75lb/ft will be fine for me 😀
@HayWoodJobLoMe
@HayWoodJobLoMe Жыл бұрын
@@DontPanicDear dude the g42 is insane, i cant wait to see it against the new m2, these flash tunes should keep it on par, especially that xdrive vs RWD
@Postingam2
@Postingam2 Жыл бұрын
@@DontPanicDearwhy would you pay $8k for the ac schnitzer when u can get the same thing from Dinan or Manhart for a fraction of the price. All 3 of those options also void your warranty so be weary of the “warranty” they offer with the performance box
@DontPanicDear
@DontPanicDear Жыл бұрын
@@Postingam2 I paid under £3k as part of the whole new car deal. ACS have a fully underwritten comprehensive policy, that covers anything that BMW might have an issue with under their warranty. The BMW dealer actually facilitated the fitment. I do understand your point though, but I’m happy 😃
@Postingam2
@Postingam2 Жыл бұрын
@@DontPanicDear sounds like you got a great deal then, happy driving 🤞🏼
@nighthawk0077
@nighthawk0077 Жыл бұрын
Cool video showing the ease of tuning and using the Dragy, although I can't figure out why you kept doing 0-60 pulls on the street in between tunes. Tire temp, surface grip, traction mode etc can all vary greatly making consistent results very hard to get. You have a Dragy meaning you can do 30-100mph, 50-120mph pulls, whatever you want. Those would clearly show any power changes. Anyway still good results, looking forward to getting my 340i.
@Star.Chaser
@Star.Chaser Жыл бұрын
Cos they want that low 0-60
@palleppalsson
@palleppalsson Жыл бұрын
Good I didn't have to make the same comment, Dragy reseller and youtuber AutotopNL even has a leaderboard for 100-200km/h that give good comparisons between all they cars they test.
@vanoscity
@vanoscity Жыл бұрын
Bro needs to upload more he be dropping HEAT
@colinchandler6516
@colinchandler6516 Жыл бұрын
and you have a classic holds its value fast as you made a great choice on buying this monster
@Mr-ni2cc
@Mr-ni2cc Жыл бұрын
Yessir!! Just got my universal joint today! Thank you sir! Now I am having an issue connecting to Bimmercode. I'm sure I can figure it out but just wanted to know if you guys had this issue as well? Keep that content coming. 💪🏾🔥💪🏾🔥💪🏾🔥
@VehicleVirals
@VehicleVirals Жыл бұрын
One other person told me the same today. I think either the adapter needs a firmware update or maybe you just gotta update the bimmercode app.
@repsurfer
@repsurfer 11 ай бұрын
Hey VV great video definitely gonna grab a Dragy. Where’s that E85 Racetrac located? I only know about the Sunoco’s on Colonial and the other at Lee Rd. It’d be great to hit up another station. Thanks 😊
@Bubbleman2k
@Bubbleman2k Жыл бұрын
Excited for the B58 journey.
@BabaYagaRacing
@BabaYagaRacing Жыл бұрын
Good motor
@EBKFiXXY
@EBKFiXXY Жыл бұрын
The journey of blowing up cause that’s all a bmw does LMFAO my friend blew up his m340 maxing it out to 500hp now he has a 440i but he so scared he not even modding yeah Il keep my under powered Lexus cause it will last a lifetime more than any bmw shitbox From N to b to S BOOM BOOM SHITBOX they only good for spinning bearings and sending rods to orbit …. BMW
@lordhades9455
@lordhades9455 Жыл бұрын
@@EBKFiXXY lol your buddy screwed up a tune and blew up an engine. That hardly indicates an actual reliability with the engine. Lexus makes exceptionally boring products with ancient tech
@aarong6616
@aarong6616 Жыл бұрын
@@EBKFiXXY Typical broke boy response. “New, nice cars are unreliable, I’ll keep my shitbox.” Like you have a choice 😂
@EBKFiXXY
@EBKFiXXY Жыл бұрын
I just learned the timing chains are in the back towards the bellhousing 😂😂😂 I wonder why bmw did that probably to rape your pockets a lil more and it’s not like bmw have had any issues with timing guides and chains …. 🍵🐸
@randallboone9375
@randallboone9375 Жыл бұрын
I can’t wait to get the manual. So Im in Orlando this weekend with my 335i. Anything going on as far as meets? I missed u last time when I was working in Tampa.
@lataoball3820
@lataoball3820 Жыл бұрын
Want to get a b58 next seem really fun
@mkvftw
@mkvftw Жыл бұрын
Im going to send my ecu out soon and go with mhd. cant wait! Great video!
@Oni-Racing
@Oni-Racing Жыл бұрын
Just sent mine out a week ago. Can’t wait to get it back. I like the power that JB4 gives me but I need more… haha
@chrisrose5588
@chrisrose5588 Жыл бұрын
I flew out with my ECU to Femto and got to see Finland what a awesome country
@whizkaqueefa1976
@whizkaqueefa1976 Ай бұрын
what else you done since? hopoe the supra been awesome!
@mkvftw
@mkvftw Ай бұрын
@@whizkaqueefa1976 port injection, upgraded turbo, upgraded low pressure fuel pump. 700hp now
@Noble713
@Noble713 Жыл бұрын
I really want to start a business specializing in B58 swaps. Buy used motors, refurbish them, add very mild upgrade parts for power and reliability, combine with some readily-available transmissions (tranny kits are the missing link here). Seems like a no-brainer.... I used to drive a Chaser and a Mark II, both with 1JZs, and I own a MkIV Supra, so of course I love my JZ engines but they are heavy-as-f*** iron blocks. The B58 is really the 2J of the 21st century.
@briansimpson5664
@briansimpson5664 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely it should... I'm stage 2: DME tuned, FBO, on 93 and literally getting 500whp. 0-60 with light wheel spin it shaves 3 tenths, closer to 3.59 secs
@ninjastriker0137
@ninjastriker0137 Жыл бұрын
Nice vid bro
@Shaws_Garage
@Shaws_Garage Жыл бұрын
Launch in 2nd like some others have mentioned. The 8 speed gearing is so close and power is so good that you’ll have quicker times. Is this your new favorite BMW??? 😂😂
@elcentinela3434
@elcentinela3434 Жыл бұрын
Great video 👏👏🙌
@mytimewillshine
@mytimewillshine Жыл бұрын
Just wondering why your check engine light on? I know you said is fetmo unlocked. Light caught my eye lol.
@cccc9911
@cccc9911 Жыл бұрын
Great channel!!! Btw...is that engine sound coming thru the car speakers??
@VehicleVirals
@VehicleVirals Жыл бұрын
No, not with this car
@kobe7401
@kobe7401 Жыл бұрын
Hey on the streets try launching in 2nd gear, im x drive and as soon as it gets cold i spin all 4 launching in 2nd it hooks so good
@CTG324
@CTG324 Жыл бұрын
I previously had a m240 if you are looking for a full e85 tune port injection on the stock gen 2 fuel pump can get you close to 600 wheel on straight E with the mods you have as well.
@tkostang
@tkostang Жыл бұрын
Are you just stomping on the throttle or are you modulating the throttle?
@therealjulez7886
@therealjulez7886 6 күн бұрын
What an amazing car bro. I ordered a 2024 GR supra from Toyota last year but was told another 1 year wait. I ended up with a BMW M240i instead with the B58 platform. hoping I can make these numbers after warranty is up.
@Jrk450
@Jrk450 Жыл бұрын
A stage one tune on a B58 engine is about 430-440bhp . With a decat it jumps to around 450-460. In stock form the B58 is shown to produce about 360-370bhp. Quoted figures from BMW is about 340 bhp. This is using high octane petrol in the UK RON 99.
@lclnbm
@lclnbm Жыл бұрын
Why a decat tho
@eastonnida8213
@eastonnida8213 Жыл бұрын
@@lclnbm easy couple horsepower and people like their cars loud
@zaarkeru3391
@zaarkeru3391 Жыл бұрын
@@eastonnida8213 True, it smell like shit though xD
@lclnbm
@lclnbm Жыл бұрын
@eastonnida8213 fair point. I just wouldn't do it in my city with emissions tests
@Jrk450
@Jrk450 Жыл бұрын
@@lclnbm people who make their car in to pure track car and not for the road.
@jds344
@jds344 Жыл бұрын
I’m waiting and excited for the bmw steering swap
@yendryperez8583
@yendryperez8583 Жыл бұрын
Nice job love the Supra
@deadly134
@deadly134 Жыл бұрын
People that hate on the motor for bmw I get it but damn they put a lot into this one cause of the heritage. I mean on forums people refer to the n54 bmw as a modern day 2jz… this blocks can handle power
@JoeG93
@JoeG93 Жыл бұрын
Is the CEL on because of the downpipe?
@ScionTC2003
@ScionTC2003 Жыл бұрын
Beautiful Supra Jess
@bikotheanimator6169
@bikotheanimator6169 Жыл бұрын
The A90 Supra may be my next car. I never thought I would like BMW other than the E36 M3 recently, but my options are opening. F82 M4 as a possible affordable car, and the G82 M4 is amazing and the front grill looks cool. Unfortunately, those G82 are far too expensive. That was the same way I felt about the GTR R35, which is one of my favorite cars, but not as much anymore. R35 always seemed expensive and out of reach. My next car option will be an A90/A91 Supra. If not that, then an F82 M4. My only concern about the Supra is the space. I use my rear seats for my bags, and the trunk for groceries. I have a stock 2016 Genesis Coupe 3.8. 348 horsepower was nice to experience, but I am ready for the next level. I am saving up money and thinking about selling my car in a few years after the market decreases. I remember watching videos of GenZilla's Genesis Coupe. After Cjay Sabino blew his Remnant Performance turbo kit 3.8 after 7,200 to 7,500 miles, I decided I am not going to do a built engine and turbo kit. There is no point. If I were rich, I would definitely go for a G82 M4, but I heard the GRMN Supra is coming and it will have an S58 engine.
@jldp24
@jldp24 Жыл бұрын
The G models are just out of reach..the pricing went to the stars..not for the upper middle class a more.. now you need to be rich.
@VehicleVirals
@VehicleVirals Жыл бұрын
Try to test drive a Supra before considering one. I honestly don't like mine all that much because of the size and lack of practicality. Great as a performer but not so much as a daily driver IMO.
@carsonbrummell4715
@carsonbrummell4715 Жыл бұрын
I went from a genesis coupe 3.8 modded to an A91 supra and the supra stock is a decent amount faster then my gen was even with mods I think supra is a better car then f80 m4 and you would definitely enjoy it coming from a gen coupe!
@carsonbrummell4715
@carsonbrummell4715 Жыл бұрын
@@VehicleVirals it’s a 2 seat coupe bro how big do you want it to be… it can fit a full size golf bag or enough luggage for a week long trip for 2… 😐
@garthdarville5145
@garthdarville5145 Жыл бұрын
I’m in the same boat as far as space goes. Been considering the M240i. The looks finally grew on me.
@derekhale7345
@derekhale7345 Жыл бұрын
Would this ecu mod reduce the car lifespan?
@alvaroperez7879
@alvaroperez7879 Жыл бұрын
What would a 2022 supra with downpipe and MHD stage 2 make in power on pump fuel? 430-440?
@supahone3
@supahone3 Жыл бұрын
I use water methanol on my e92 and it cools IA temps over 40 degrees during a hit.
@SleeperVersus
@SleeperVersus Жыл бұрын
No hates, but you should have tried with drag pack at least. Stock 21+ supra can run mid 3sec 0-60mph. The quickest i have done when i was stock on nitto nt555r2 was 3.41sec.
@RickMitchellWV
@RickMitchellWV Жыл бұрын
great video! what phone mount do you recommend to use with your dragy videos?
@VehicleVirals
@VehicleVirals Жыл бұрын
The one I'm using I purchased from Target. Brand it iottie
@trandafircosmin1568
@trandafircosmin1568 Жыл бұрын
I have m340i xdrive after tune i hAve prob with diff leak oil is general problems need upgrade i do it soon.
@dash0173
@dash0173 Жыл бұрын
Is it actually a good and reliable motor? I know almost nothing about these things
@luiscolindres8112
@luiscolindres8112 Жыл бұрын
Do you know how to delete the check engine light with mhd? Mine came on when I installed the downpipe
@SupraHenry
@SupraHenry Жыл бұрын
I’ve owned my mk4 Supra for many years. And since the A90 launched I’ve defended it as a true successor to the mk4. The B58 in my opinion is also better than the JZ as well. The hate for the BMW partnership never made any sense to me. BMW has been a top performance brand for a long time. Love the new Supra and the new engine. A true successor for sure 🤌. R888 has a super stiff side wall and spin a lot. Mickey Thompson ET Street is where it’s at 👌
@4sake123
@4sake123 Жыл бұрын
My biggest concern with the bmw partnership was the reliability. So far the b58 seems to be holding up really well though and it's a beast of an engine
@aaronwu4360
@aaronwu4360 9 ай бұрын
Very cool video! Just wondering why the engine light is on?
@VehicleVirals
@VehicleVirals 9 ай бұрын
Downpipes
@trandafircosmin1568
@trandafircosmin1568 Жыл бұрын
I make 443 hp with downpipe . M340i xdrive g20 and stock air filter and other . Soon upgrade csf but make more
@LTYFLY
@LTYFLY Жыл бұрын
Make some more follow up videos of your Supra please!
@jackancher
@jackancher Жыл бұрын
Damn that’s a fast BMW
@TrenC21
@TrenC21 Жыл бұрын
You need to always dyno your car in the gear that has the closest 1:1 ratio. In 5 speeds, that's generally 3rd gear, in 6 speed that's generally 5th in the ZF 8 Speed, that's 6th gear, hence why you made more POWA BABYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY :)
@TranceFur
@TranceFur Жыл бұрын
It’s usually 1:1 in 3rd gear for 5 speed transmissions? Weird, I thought it was normally 5th gear. Didn’t think most 5 speed trannies had any overdrive gears. Mine certainly doesn’t, driving along at 3,500 rpm to do 80 mph, lol.
@willmcc05
@willmcc05 Жыл бұрын
Its 4th in 5 speeds
@KuntryBoyCitySlick
@KuntryBoyCitySlick Жыл бұрын
@@willmcc05 exactly as when the first 5 speed dropped it was an over drive.
@custommotor
@custommotor Жыл бұрын
I really think that depends on the dyno and how much information about the vehicle you are willing to input. For example back in college I took the course for Dynotuning and we had a all wheel drive linked Superflow dyno. If had the ignition pickup, entered the tire size, rear diff ratio, and transmission gear ratio then it had no effect on the power graph line. The issue would be that the dyno would have poor resolution if it spun up too quickly and we would have to apply a load to the dyno to counteract that. We tested the theory on a few manual cars in multiple gears and didn't really seem have more then deviation of 1-4 hp between gears in a car with around 300hp which really isn't much of a deviation. Our biggest concern was how fast the rollers were spinning. Even though the dyno was rated for like 180-200mph we never really liked to spin it over 130-140 if it wasn't needed. The only car we really ran up near the limit of the dyno was a preproduction viper which between 160-170mph. I want to lean closer to 170mph, but that was 10 years ago. We just didn't want a tire blowout at those speeds in a class.
@custommotor
@custommotor Жыл бұрын
@@TranceFur A lot can go into that. 5th is almost always overdrive, but I know in my NA and NB miata when I had them they still spun around 3500-4000rpm in overdrive at 80mph. That was due to 2 factors. The tiny tire size and the fact that the NA miata had a 4.3 rear gear and the NB miata had a 3.9 rear gear.
@Oni-Racing
@Oni-Racing Жыл бұрын
Are you planning to get a custom e50 tune?
@Oplix
@Oplix Жыл бұрын
Why is there a check engine light immediately after tuning?
@Entertainmentinc1
@Entertainmentinc1 Жыл бұрын
Why is the engine light on? Wouldn’t the tune be able to turn the of unnecessary engine codes?
@viiriix6525
@viiriix6525 Жыл бұрын
Ah Innovation, a good test spot.
@emm_zr0674
@emm_zr0674 Жыл бұрын
Holy sht is that easy to make power with the supra!! 😱😱 Damm i really really need one 😩
@seb42
@seb42 Жыл бұрын
Can't wait for X3 m40i
@Nohea.e92
@Nohea.e92 Жыл бұрын
What do you think the numbers would be on a mustang dyno?
@VehicleVirals
@VehicleVirals Жыл бұрын
Not sure. Never been on one.
@EchigoyaHonpo
@EchigoyaHonpo Жыл бұрын
how about 1/4 miles run ? probably high 11s ?
@JonR35
@JonR35 8 ай бұрын
So close to holding to the 1/8, that will tell us way more than 0-60 on a rwd
@CtRacerX
@CtRacerX Жыл бұрын
Almost 100whp from a stage 2 tune with supporting mods is always a good thing… In terms of cost; how much did you spend to almost get 500whp??
@VehicleVirals
@VehicleVirals Жыл бұрын
$400 for tune and $300 for downpipe. That's all you really need.
@AngelRodie
@AngelRodie Жыл бұрын
The B58 is an amazing engine, well, the big Daddy N54 made it into this. Everyone still talks about the 2Jz, but they forget history. the first straight 6 was made in 1933 by BMW, and they continued making those until today. Also German makers ehem, Toyota and Nissan have had Collabs with the since the 70s. So. Yeah, the B58 is a good engine and for sure tunable af.
@reyvr6
@reyvr6 Жыл бұрын
My friend on a90 dual port e85 tune made 513whp and 646wtq..
@kiastingergt2231
@kiastingergt2231 Жыл бұрын
How much was that tuner ?
@bych868
@bych868 Жыл бұрын
Get some Mickey Thompson drag radials or R888rs
@izzo69
@izzo69 Жыл бұрын
Right in my backyard. 🗣East Siiiide lol
@moontrauma5772
@moontrauma5772 Жыл бұрын
Can someone explain to me how do you tune your own vehicle ? Is it some electronic device you have to buy and plug into your car?
@VehicleVirals
@VehicleVirals Жыл бұрын
Technology has made it. It's as simple as buying an adapter and a tuning licence and following directions. Some cars require a DME first however.
@JacesOwnWorld
@JacesOwnWorld Жыл бұрын
After watching your vid, I decided to calculate some numbers with the B58 in comparison to the EA888, specifically in the MK7/7.5 GTI with the IS20 factory turbo. Reason why I chose the EA888 is because, well, I am curious at the comparison as I own a MK7 GTI, but also the EA888 is considered one of the best, if not the best, 4cyl-T motors in the market today, when it comes to power numbers when modified. I figured out both the B58 and the EA888's average baseline (stock) dyno numbers, the B58 and EA888's average Stage 2 numbers, and what these numbers indicated. I will mention that both engines Stage 2 dyno numbers are used with aftermarket parts, including an aftermarket downpipe, intake, and exhaust. B58 (93oct) -- Stock -- 345whp/400tq (413 crank hp/400tq) -- Stage 2 Tune -- 415whp/490tq (494 crank hp/490tq) **This is a +70whp/90tq (81 crank hp/90tq) increase over stock EA888 (91oct) (IS20 Turbo on GTI) -- Stock -- 220whp/270tq (256 crank hp/270tq) -- Stage 2 Tune -- 310whp/310tq (356 crank hp/3010tq) **This is a +90whp/40tq (100 crank hp/40tq) increase over stock What I find very interesting is the numbers given the B58 is an inline-6 engine and the EA888 is a 4cyl engine. The EA888 gains more hp from a Stage 2 tune over the B58, but the B58 gains more torque over the EA888. This makes sense for the B58 to gain more torque because it not only has a bigger turbo from the factory than the EA888 IS20, but it also has a bigger engine and is using a higher octane of gas. For the EA888 to gain more hp just shows you how amazing its engine is! And I'm sure if there was more data on the EA888 using 93oct gas (most use 91oct), then its hp numbers would even be higher, and its torque numbers would be a closer match to the B58's. I don't know exactly what the specs are of the B58's stock turbo, but I do know its twin scroll, and the IS20 on the EA888 on the GTI (nor the IS38 on the Golf R) isn't. I would imagine the Golf R's IS38 turbo is a closer match spec wise to the B58's stock turbo, and we now the IS38 puts out even larger numbers stock vs. Stage 2 over the GTI. The B58 is definitely the better engine. Its a lot stronger, and can withstand a lot more power without rebuilding it, but I still am pretty astonished at how potent the EA888 engine is. It really is a "sleeper" engine, even though many people know what the MK7/7.5 GTI and Golf R are about after so many people have been gapped by them lol. The B58 will still gap pretty much every MK7/7.5 GTI/R mod vs. mod, but I have to give credit where credit is due, and the EA888 is a BEAST for it being a 4-banger turbo car!
@memo-bt2us
@memo-bt2us Жыл бұрын
But it looks like an egg
@TheJapfanboy
@TheJapfanboy Жыл бұрын
@@memo-bt2us 💀 bro just dropped all this research and game. Don’t be corny man.
@JacesOwnWorld
@JacesOwnWorld Жыл бұрын
@@memo-bt2us and the Supra looks like a Tonka Toy, especially with all of its fake vents lol. And your gen Mustang is one of the ugliest Mustangs ever made, and it’s interior is the worst interior probably ever made. But that’s all besides the point here bud. Try to keep up…
@OCOWGTR27
@OCOWGTR27 Жыл бұрын
Theres a couple of things with these assumptions. Its a lot harder to go from 300-400hp than it is to go from 200-300. Plus peak figures dont show the power/torque curve. Power and torque under the curve show far more of the story than the peak power. The B58 will be full boost on stock turbo from 2500 and essentially hold peak torque from a much lower rpm. Drivability wise, this makes the comparsion pointess as even if they had the same power, because of torque / displacement, the b58 would be faster everywhere. Then there's engine smoothness, sound. Theres a lot more to it than simple peak number comparison. EA888 is good for a 4cyl, but not really comparable.
@EsatKaplan
@EsatKaplan Жыл бұрын
k20 would like to have a word with u
@SL0Z07
@SL0Z07 Жыл бұрын
60-130 times on 93 tune vs e40??
@Mr20564
@Mr20564 Жыл бұрын
Does the check engine light goes away after ?
@rashedahmedidris9589
@rashedahmedidris9589 Жыл бұрын
It might be because of the down pipes
@TheRealDVO
@TheRealDVO 2 ай бұрын
What data logger are you using?
@YoungBurr94
@YoungBurr94 9 ай бұрын
Goes for a 2021 m440 too right?
@callanotis7902
@callanotis7902 Жыл бұрын
Yea I don't like when b58s pull up to my N54 I start sweating😂
@tonyfrance4100
@tonyfrance4100 Жыл бұрын
For real. It took full bolt-ons and turbo inlets for my N54 to make power like this B58 does. Those motors are crazy good.
@SidewaysGts
@SidewaysGts 5 ай бұрын
If i recall the 6th gear on these cars is the 1:1 gear, and is the gear youd want to dyno in anyways. Any other gear will have more parasitic loss and reduce your power readings
@nicholasborrelli7544
@nicholasborrelli7544 Жыл бұрын
Should have compared 60-130 times instead for a better metric. Unless you have radials on the car you will just break traction every time....
@mauriciogretter8418
@mauriciogretter8418 Жыл бұрын
The car will not activate launch control with traction fully off (DSC) which is why it does a burnout. Try clicking the traction button once
@VehicleVirals
@VehicleVirals Жыл бұрын
I know that. Still did a burnout.
@sufyanb
@sufyanb Жыл бұрын
If you don't mind, will you tell us how much the DME unlock cost in all in?
@VehicleVirals
@VehicleVirals Жыл бұрын
$1500 shipped
@Tunercraze
@Tunercraze 6 ай бұрын
What wheels are those? TE37? Or... ?
@TheOriginalTommo
@TheOriginalTommo Жыл бұрын
What's with the CGI sprints? E.G. 6:34 etc ??
@michaell1112
@michaell1112 5 ай бұрын
What wheels are they? Couldn’t hear properly.
@jacksonwhite421
@jacksonwhite421 Жыл бұрын
Shit I make close to 800 on my x3m with a MHD ots tune. I have traction issues with awd. Glad to see the numbers on B58. Big torque numbers
@VehicleVirals
@VehicleVirals Жыл бұрын
That's a ton of power!
@jacksonwhite421
@jacksonwhite421 Жыл бұрын
Definitely look up the MHD s58 package. It’s a beast. I made 670 to the wheels when it was bone stock from the showroom with the stage 1 MHD on 93.
@severe28
@severe28 Жыл бұрын
Bro those S58 engines are no joke.
@alexis.chavez
@alexis.chavez Жыл бұрын
Why only testing 0-60? I see a lot of people doing this but I don’t get it. How good of a measurement of your top end is knowing 0-60? Interested in hearing your thoughts
@alexis.chavez
@alexis.chavez Жыл бұрын
I guess I’m wondering why not just measure 1/4 mile times? Do you only race till 60 in all your races?
@VehicleVirals
@VehicleVirals Жыл бұрын
Didn't have the runway available when I filmed this video to do 1/4 or 60-130. But since most manufacturese advertise 0-60 I figured I can do that.
@alexis.chavez
@alexis.chavez Жыл бұрын
@@VehicleVirals ahhh ok gotcha! I was just curious. I thought you just didn’t like 1/4 mile runs haha. Good luck with the build. New sub here
@SubieMooha
@SubieMooha Жыл бұрын
Sounds just like an R34 GTR. This inline 6 is boss!
@stephenhughes4304
@stephenhughes4304 5 ай бұрын
Also don't turn traction control off just put it in sport and stamp on the brake and throttle
@ivanfider1631
@ivanfider1631 Жыл бұрын
Try taking off in 2nd gear and see if that make any difference. Video 🔥 like always.
@BabaYagaRacing
@BabaYagaRacing Жыл бұрын
2nd gear is the way to launch them
@SuperHbkforever
@SuperHbkforever Жыл бұрын
@@BabaYagaRacing ayyyyyy babayaga knows what's up! Love your vids BTW. Your shit just makes me want to make my car faster xD
@howdyimdan
@howdyimdan Жыл бұрын
@@BabaYagaRacing with a hybrid turbo yes. Ive heard that 1st is the way to go tho with stock turbo. ive gotten all my best times with 1st, i should play around with 2nd more tho.
@BabaYagaRacing
@BabaYagaRacing Жыл бұрын
@@howdyimdan 2nd is the best way no matter the turbo
@BabaYagaRacing
@BabaYagaRacing Жыл бұрын
@@SuperHbkforever thanks 🔥🔥
@online_now6834
@online_now6834 Жыл бұрын
why check engine light on?
@dubsrevo
@dubsrevo Жыл бұрын
I thought MHD can remove the CEL
@emperor002002
@emperor002002 Жыл бұрын
The M235i should be insane with the xdrive then.
@loudaccord
@loudaccord Жыл бұрын
Can you use XHP to fix the launch?
@VehicleVirals
@VehicleVirals Жыл бұрын
I think so. Looking to try it soon.
@prskyviews
@prskyviews 4 ай бұрын
What gear are you testing at? 5th?
@brian4544
@brian4544 Жыл бұрын
Just a suggestion, when you show a dyno chart, let the camera sit on the full chart for about 10 seconds so people can look at it. The dyno curve tells more about the setup than peak numbers.
@VehicleVirals
@VehicleVirals Жыл бұрын
Or just pause the video
@brian4544
@brian4544 Жыл бұрын
@@VehicleVirals My suggestion to possibly improve your videos sailed right over your head.
@blade643
@blade643 Жыл бұрын
Bro, Im in CFL as well. I cannot find any E85 stations! where's that one at?
@VehicleVirals
@VehicleVirals Жыл бұрын
By the airport there's two stations. Wawa and Racetrac. My go to is Sunoco on East Colonial but they were out when I filmed this video.
@blade643
@blade643 Жыл бұрын
@@VehicleVirals bro, KZfaq never sent me the notification. I finally just seen your response, thanks man!
@jesuschrist2284
@jesuschrist2284 Жыл бұрын
I think my hatch back had this engine
@channelgreen5949
@channelgreen5949 Жыл бұрын
Is this type of tune safe for the car’s engine?
@thoughtsforyourlife2k98
@thoughtsforyourlife2k98 Ай бұрын
Any tune does reduce the lifespan of a car. But it’s also a BMW engine perfected to Toyotas Standard. It’s pretty reliable in the long run; but if you want to make it last longer, leave everything stock. Only modify the exterior.
@paintskate610
@paintskate610 Жыл бұрын
Is it possible launch control isn’t working because you have a CEL
@BabaYagaRacing
@BabaYagaRacing Жыл бұрын
Launch control is trash don't use it
@user-ly9zz2rs1z
@user-ly9zz2rs1z Жыл бұрын
So you got the CSF super manifold and running ethanol and only 480whp..? 480 on E40 ots? E30 jb4 piggyback tune pushes 490-495whp. ots E50 with ecutek is about 520whp 600tq with no other mods.. you should be pushing like 540 ish to the wheel with the extra fueling from the super manifold. With your setup you should be at around 690whp once you go bigger turbo. Assuming you go pure800 or pure850.
@zackkitzmiller
@zackkitzmiller Жыл бұрын
Pure turbos are stock frame turbos. They are not 'big' in the 'big turbo' sense.
@user-ly9zz2rs1z
@user-ly9zz2rs1z Жыл бұрын
@@zackkitzmiller regardless his initial numbers are terrible so if he going big boost he should switch platforms is all I'm saying.
@user-xb3nk6dx3g
@user-xb3nk6dx3g Жыл бұрын
Wait did they unlock the ECU or just clone it ?
@mkvftw
@mkvftw Жыл бұрын
partial unlock. u can only use mhd or bm3 after they unlock it.
@jimbo_dilly1675
@jimbo_dilly1675 Жыл бұрын
That's amazing what a simple tune can do with this engine. Since more cars seem to be putting down so much more power these days, I really wish Toyota would have gave the Supra an AWD option. It would have made a world of difference. I think that's one of the reasons the BMW M340i xDrive is so quick. Car and Driver tested it at 3.5sec from factory which is nuts.
@Tyrael112
@Tyrael112 Жыл бұрын
We already know what it's like from all the Supra v M240i videos. AWD B58 smoked the Supra in the 1/4, as it should. It also adds 400lbs, cost, and complexity to what is being sold as a low volume Toyota.
@jimbo_dilly1675
@jimbo_dilly1675 Жыл бұрын
@@Tyrael112 That comment added nothing to what I was talking about….
@nathankeller2870
@nathankeller2870 Жыл бұрын
Can you tell me more about the company that unlocked the ECU?
@VehicleVirals
@VehicleVirals Жыл бұрын
We offer the service as the middle man. Check the link in the description
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