Thanks for the feedback - glad you found it helpful

They are using garmin computers! They just use the kickr from wahoo. I think you forgot, that they are using the device from Sponsors. But to be honest, I don't know any pro Team, which is using the elemnt.

If you check out my Wahoo Bolt Navigation video here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/m7OEiJaQp9muhIk.html it shows you turn alerts whilst on the data page (2m 24s). Im not sure if you can get it to automatically switch to the map page but the alert whilst on the data page does include countdown, direction, road name and led turn indicator.

yes, but not if you have synced a strava route

No it will not sorry

Bang for buck - probably the Garmin Edge 820 at the moment as its massively discounted following the launch of the new 830. The 830 has a bigger, better, more responsive screen and some cool features but the 820 has been as low as £140 (currently £157 in Cycle Republic minus another 10% if you are a british cycling member) - IMO its a steam at that price

lol steal not steam

Ah, i thought so! Thank you for speedy reply!

@@VELOGPSTHEINNERTUBE just bought and updated. Thanks for your help :-)

Happy to help - enjoy with your new Giant

There really isn't much to choose between them. Personally i'd go with the 820 as i prefer a touch-screen - the 520 plus does not have this and is operated by buttons alone (however this may be a +ve to some).

Wahoo bolt

Thanks for taking the time to feedback your experience Lee. I agree that the touch screen is not as sensitive as a modern mobile but its not something i've found frustrating - for anyone who has used an Edge 800/810 or Touring its a big improvement. The Edge 1030's screen sensitivity is a step up again and is more like a phones. The screen swipe to change pages is a feature I really like on the 820 and to be honest once i've started a ride thats all i use to scroll between pre-set data, navigation and elevation pages.

Touchscreen on Garmin 820 is totally frustrating and though I put it very sensitive, it isn't responsive adequately. Moreover, navigation is very unreliable on 820 !! I wonder if wahoo requires riding with smartphone ? I will get rid of my Garmin but the replacement needs to be better for navigation. I don't use powermeter.

Agree completely about touchscreen inadequacy. Another beta project for Garmin ! Does Wahoo element needs also a smartphone to navigate ?

yvesn58 nope, works without smartphone

@@yvesn58 For the bolt to nav. it needs to have a pre built route from the phone. The garmins can work out new routes without a phone. And also do this while out of mobile data range - all without the phone. And it will re-route if go off course - something the Bolt will never do even if have a phone. The latest Garmins have much better touch screens (work when wet etc) and faster processors - inc. the Edge Explore (which I chose over the Bolt).

the new Garmins are much better in the wet and faster processors too. Battery life will fade a lot after 5 years of use with the Li-on bats. But can put new ones in a simple solder a wire job.

The 1030 and 830 touch screens are a massive improvement. Funnily enough though the 820 is still probably my most used cycle GPS even with all the options I have. If I was buying atm id be looking at a 530 or 830 as the sweet spot price wise. I still have a trusty 500 !!

@@VELOGPSTHEINNERTUBE Good to know. I still question the processing power/speed though. When navigating with the 820 in a city environment (which I have done quite a bit of), it was way to slow in updating and guiding. I found that I was constantly having to stop and turn back as the unit would not prompt me to turn till after I had passed that point. I would often find myself pulling out my phone and figuring out where I need to go using Google maps instead. I would assume that processing power has improved with every new model and that it would be a better experience on the 830 or even the 1030. The problem here in Australia is that it would cost me around $850 (for the 1030) to find out. That's a bit of an expensive gamble considering the track record I have had with garmin units. For example, my old 500 takes literally 25 to get sattelite connection. That's why I went to the 820. The 820 would flip out during a ride and flicker between Go and Pause many times per second before it simply stopped recording the ride. I still have problems with it and it won't shut down when I try to power it off. It just reboots and the battery starts draining. I could go on all day about the issues but the point is that I have spent allot of money over 3 seperate garmin head units and 2 of those 3 were very problematic. 1 out of 3 is not good at all and the garmin brand does not sit well in my head any more. Cheers and thanks for the response. I'll do my homework and figure out what will do the job for me. That could still be garmin but probably not. Cheers, Vincent...

You need a Touchscreen for navigation, or it is difficult to zoom and to move the map. Also it is not possible to navigate to an adress you search on the device, so I think a Touchscreen is really important for navigation, maybe more for mountainbikers like me. If you just want to follow a route, you don't need this feature, so you can take a 520 plus or elemnt bolt.

@@quimicos_comunistas Plus Richard may have used the old Garmins. The new touch screens are way better. I prefer them over buttons.