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The Biggest Myth In Education

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Veritasium

Күн бұрын

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@violentbenevolence
@violentbenevolence 3 жыл бұрын
"how do you know you're a visual learner" "I don't, I just assumed." This guy learns
@yuudesu
@yuudesu 3 жыл бұрын
That man was just straight to the point.
@hahkay
@hahkay 3 жыл бұрын
Built different
@Segovaxxx
@Segovaxxx 3 жыл бұрын
wait, did he just assumed his learning style?
@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721
@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721 3 жыл бұрын
He had a hypothesis that he was a visual learner and he was ready to test it out.
@whoshotashleybabbitt4924
@whoshotashleybabbitt4924 3 жыл бұрын
@@Segovaxxx better than assuming a gender. Safer too.
@austinduong-van6071
@austinduong-van6071 3 жыл бұрын
i'm a pressure learner, i only learn school material when there's severe stress and doubts about my future imposed on me
@X3MNightmare
@X3MNightmare 3 жыл бұрын
strong emotion melts the learning material together
@bentonschaefer
@bentonschaefer 3 жыл бұрын
Facts
@kerimca98
@kerimca98 3 жыл бұрын
based
@TucsonDude
@TucsonDude 3 жыл бұрын
Probably more a memorizer than a learner, then.
@adararelgnel2695
@adararelgnel2695 3 жыл бұрын
Looool nice
@rebeccastephens6087
@rebeccastephens6087 7 ай бұрын
I took this VARK test in high school, and as a student who didn’t perform well, I was SOO excited to find out my learning style. I scored the exact same in all categories... seems like that wasn't the reason for my struggle. I realized that once I started taking online classes in college, I learned WAY better when I wasn't around my peers. I would make funny faces, talk out loud, gasp!, yell "what!?!," stick my tounge out, lay on the floor, walk around the room, etc. Not that I needed to have a classroom that allowed me to learn this way... but I needed to have no one else watch me learning this way. I love having a real instuctor, but not other students watching me. Now, I just simulate this by sitting at the front of the class, right in front of the teacher. No one sits in the front. Its always open. ❤
@recoveringsoul755
@recoveringsoul755 6 ай бұрын
I always preferred sitting in the front row. Less distractions
@habakukduck
@habakukduck 6 ай бұрын
Even Team Front
@sola2943
@sola2943 6 ай бұрын
This comment is dope
@justinc2633
@justinc2633 6 ай бұрын
lol why were you yelling on the floor with your tongue out in school are you on the spectrum
@idajansenvanvuuren4356
@idajansenvanvuuren4356 4 ай бұрын
Also depends whether you right or left brain dominant, tactile or like moving, lot of factors needs to be considered and classroom teaching with more than 15 pupils makes it incredibly difficult.
@Ammonisthebest
@Ammonisthebest 3 ай бұрын
I feel like this quiz heavily relies on a persons ability to recall from memory rather than understanding and learning the answers, going home and sleeping, coming back tomorrow and still being able to know it because you learnt it rather than just you remembered. Memory fades but knowledge doesnt
@biseinerheult78
@biseinerheult78 3 жыл бұрын
My learning style is: being interested in the subject.
@nou4898
@nou4898 3 жыл бұрын
same
@MiddlemistOne
@MiddlemistOne 3 жыл бұрын
Yup. There you go.
@vyws
@vyws 3 жыл бұрын
If I was interested in something actually useful, I would have a PhD half way through high school😂
@susanmiller5912
@susanmiller5912 3 жыл бұрын
More teachers are using student choice and self selection of materials. They'll simplify this method to its detriment, too!
@5Andysalive
@5Andysalive 3 жыл бұрын
bad strategy at school.
@SamuraiPipotchi
@SamuraiPipotchi 3 жыл бұрын
"How do you know that you're a visual learner?" "I don't. I just assume." I hope that guy knows just how perfect and precise that answer is.
@andyjohnson4907
@andyjohnson4907 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah. I came here to make a similar comment. And by 'similar' I mean I was going to refer to him as "an absolute science gangster".
@Jay-ho9io
@Jay-ho9io 3 жыл бұрын
@@andyjohnson4907 Well, that's the technical term. 👍🏽
@gavinwhitford5145
@gavinwhitford5145 3 жыл бұрын
Google trying to enforce that we are all unique in some way that gives us benefits. Critical race theory whatnot. It seemed like veritasium started to backpedal on that idea though when he revealed that people employ memory strategies rather than simply being genetically dominant
@Mr.Opinion
@Mr.Opinion 3 жыл бұрын
seriously loved that
@DreamItCraftIt
@DreamItCraftIt 3 жыл бұрын
What a BAMF
@NicholasTaylorATC
@NicholasTaylorATC 3 ай бұрын
In school I found I learned best by writing things down because during tests i could remember myself writing it down. I don't think I have that learning style, I just think I was creating memories to look back on during my exams.
@0mdf
@0mdf 3 ай бұрын
It's called reconciliation of memories.
@AGloom6159
@AGloom6159 3 ай бұрын
Yeah, that's a big reason why one of my teachers insists on us taking handwritten notes rather than typed notes, cause handwritten notes are supposed to make a stronger memory than typing
@LotteJans
@LotteJans 15 күн бұрын
That’s actually true! If you wrote things down besides reading them and all the others things you make a better connection in your brain so you can recall it better! Just like he said; a combination of different styles is the best way to learn
@sormcmxcix
@sormcmxcix 8 ай бұрын
That’s not learning. That’s remembering. Which could be the challenge in education… because learning is not solely about remembering.
@choui4
@choui4 4 ай бұрын
This comment needs to be way higher. Learning and remembering are two very different things
@enterpassword3313
@enterpassword3313 4 ай бұрын
​@@choui4i think a better way of explaining it is to say its more valuable to learn how to think, which is different from just remembering. Learning and remembering are not so different, but having a good memory doesnt help you understand what you remember
@ensenadorjones4224
@ensenadorjones4224 4 ай бұрын
​​@@enterpassword3313 Synthesis of new ideas from what we have learned or memorized is the result of applying what was learned. Public schools don't teach innovation or push people to synthesize new ideas. They teach to prepare for state tests. Memorization.
@enterpassword3313
@enterpassword3313 4 ай бұрын
@@ensenadorjones4224 k
@crystalclear6864
@crystalclear6864 3 ай бұрын
Exams are all about memory. The school system needs to change. Need to take a bigger roll and what the children are talk to follow through at home with love and kindness.!!!!
@stevenreid4634
@stevenreid4634 2 жыл бұрын
As an educator, I was taught learning styles theory, and we were told to try to incorporate some or all of them in the lessons. The result was teaching the same material in a few different ways so that you'd reach everyone. The actual outcome was the material was presented multiple times, so the repeated exposure through a variety of styles helped everyone remember better. Don't just teach visual learners visually and kinesthetic learners with experiments; teach everyone with everything.
@Wally03
@Wally03 2 жыл бұрын
Share this with other teachers
@dragamboazulinqiacupuntura122
@dragamboazulinqiacupuntura122 2 жыл бұрын
Répétition is key for me as well
@NoThankUBeQuiet
@NoThankUBeQuiet 2 жыл бұрын
I'd agree except this bores the hell out of those of us who got it the first time and don't wanna spend a week on one thing.
@barbaragribbon
@barbaragribbon 2 жыл бұрын
@@Wally03 They are probably quite busy teaching, and teaching well by the sounds of things. Perhaps the education policy makers, who are not teachers, and are much more influenced by political trends would be better to deal with this. Perhaps you could write a letter to your local representative?
@punkguyrich
@punkguyrich 2 жыл бұрын
I've been saying that for years with a lot of pushback from older teachers.
@lionbryce10101
@lionbryce10101 3 жыл бұрын
"I prefer to learn about things that I want to learn" - best learning style
@gregdabrat
@gregdabrat 3 жыл бұрын
Yes
@Linkario86
@Linkario86 3 жыл бұрын
Natural curiosity makes you go ahead and find any source to learn about. It doesn't matter if text, visual, kinestethic or auditive. Everything will do and the whole mixture of those is great to learn anything
@__-yz1ob
@__-yz1ob 3 жыл бұрын
How to fail In school 101
@vasdgod
@vasdgod 3 жыл бұрын
one of the best comment i ever seen
@f.b.jeffers0n
@f.b.jeffers0n 3 жыл бұрын
Autodidactic 😉
@carmenmintrose
@carmenmintrose 7 ай бұрын
This was a reassuring video for me. I always thought that I didn't really have a learning style because it depends on the situation and material. When someone asks me that question, I usually reply with "visual" because in my memory, I tend to absorb textbook information better by reading than listening to it (and I cannot do audiobooks/podcasts). But I also remember countless times where I would read the same paragraph over and over again because I couldn't understand what was happening, and I end up having to look up a diagram, try to map it out myself, or even hear it out loud before it clicks. Thus, I never thought I was truly a visual learner, rather it was just the one that I tend to lean more into, but I definitely require a bit of everything for the best results. It's good to know there's nothing wrong with me haha. And side note, I never really understood what kinesthetic learning means when it's not like building/drawing/something active/etc. Like is doing practice problems in math or history considered "hands-on" ?
@boddaboom77
@boddaboom77 7 ай бұрын
Same for me. It all depended on what was being taught. For example: spelling, or, geography, was just visually seeing and memorizing. But something like anatomy was part visual and part "hands on" in dissecting and then seeing. I worked in manufacturing for a while and when I first started, I had to be there and watch someone set up a machine. But, there was so much information to remember that, after watching a setup, I had an overall understanding of what needed to be done but I needed an "instructor" there with me as I was doing the hands on part to remember the little details that there was no way to remember it all until I had the repetition. This frustrated me because I can remember being in school and just intently listening to a, say...history discussion and remember the important points. So I think the "best" or "smartest" students (or learners) are comfortable with every method of "learning". If you are too rigid and only learn "visually" for example, how can anyone ever explain anything to you?
@colettemartinez1341
@colettemartinez1341 4 ай бұрын
No, doing practice problems would not be a kinaesthetic learning method. That would fall under reading and writing or visual learner. Kinaesthetic learners find it easiest and funnest to incorporate information (especially new information) using their entire body. If the child were to go over math drills or flash cards at home - they would enjoy to do so while bouncing on a small trampoline, or with the reward of bouncing or showing a trick every 3 correct problems. To introduce math topics, you would use manipulatives like base ten counting blocks, buttons, raisins, etc. something they can group up and move around to better take in the information. This will also please the visual learner. You can prepare numbers taped to the floor and have the kids jump from number to number when learning skip counting. You can have them go look around the room for items that would weigh less than a pound, have them bring them to you and then check their guess with a kitchen scale. You could do body movements like dancing or excersize while doing math facts or something more rote. Or you can let them doodle or draw in class, or kick their legs back and forth in their chair, or move about the room during the “boring/hard” part. Isn’t it funny that we are all discussing the learning styles the video is trying to suggest do no exist? Learning styles are valuable, personal information to have for learning how you find it easiest to process new information. The commenter we have replied to needs to be able to pace or react physically in order to allow the information to go deeper (to assimilate/incorporate) on a first attempt - that is so valuable!!!! I am glad you found that out about yourself, @carmenmintrose. When I took the VARK learning test, I was high in each area. It was explained to me that instead of having a brain with only a door and a window open, I had a brain with a door and all the windows open. I personally needed to receive information through more than one of those openings to be able to make sense of it. In other words, in more than one method in order to grasp it quicker. I was often a slower learner, especially when I found the material difficult, BUT, when I understood it, I understood it from several angles. I am also not nearly as slow to learn now that I am older because I can access all the old pathways made over time and hold a ton of information that I can access and use to make more recent, “new” connections faster. This is the reason why those who often require more than one discipline to study well, can make great teachers. They can look at their student, see the information isn’t getting through and try an entirely different approach (or take a brain/activity break) on a dime a because they have had to do that for themselves all along!
@green5260
@green5260 4 ай бұрын
​@@colettemartinez1341 we're talking about learning styles because that's what the video is about 🤦
@herobrine1847
@herobrine1847 3 ай бұрын
Kinesthetic learnings have kinetic energy
@sary9348
@sary9348 3 ай бұрын
The point is the information on the book is write not image and isn't the same thing. So why to you think you are visual leaerner?
@FoxUSA36
@FoxUSA36 5 ай бұрын
Learning a concept is not the same as memorization. It is funny the solution is to present information in as many styles as possible disproves a learning style preference. When you ask people "picture an apple in your head. From 1 - 10 with 10 being as clear as real life how well can you see that imagined apple?" You will get wildly different answers. Mind's eye seems to depend on the person, just People's tendencies to self vocalize or have music stuck in their head. Multimodal is definitely better because it increases the probabilistic nature of learning.
@TheSnowwraith
@TheSnowwraith 3 жыл бұрын
I recall a teacher telling me he practised the martial art of "Tell-show-do", he further explained that his students learned best when first he told them about the subject matter, then he showed them a demonstration of the material, and finally got them to practise it themselves. This essentially covered all the perceived learning styles and helped everyone in his classes learn fairly uniformly.
@Patcul
@Patcul 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like PPP (Present, Practice, Production).. Anyway, all different names for approaches that may or may not be scientifically based but have varying degrees of merit.
@mikemondano3624
@mikemondano3624 3 жыл бұрын
So sorry you were exposed to such a doctrinaire fool. I hope you managed to escape his insular and myopic clutches.
@brucedavis3816
@brucedavis3816 3 жыл бұрын
Yea but now supposedly that doesn't work they really push group work which is stupid!
@revlarmilion9574
@revlarmilion9574 3 жыл бұрын
@@brucedavis3816 Group work is emphasized because if kids are interested in each others' outcomes and tutor each other, then you functionally end up with more than one teacher and more classes than what the subject allotted, which helps somewhat cover the major weakness of trying to teach 20+ students at the same time on a tiny budget of hours per week.
@darrenjr.2251
@darrenjr.2251 3 жыл бұрын
Tell me and I will forget. Show me and I will remember. Involve me and I will learn. -Benjamin Franklin
@MyUsernamesThis
@MyUsernamesThis 3 жыл бұрын
id say whether im interested in the topic or not matters more than how its presented to me
@ozzysaucy2288
@ozzysaucy2288 3 жыл бұрын
Damn never thought i'd see you here
@0divide136
@0divide136 3 жыл бұрын
hi user
@neurofiedyamato8763
@neurofiedyamato8763 3 жыл бұрын
I agree with you that interest is very important, but I disagree that will lead to learning by itself. You can be deeply interested in a subject, but if no one presents that information to you, or at least in a intelligible way, then you will never understand no matter how much you want to know. This is excluding experimenting things and discovering it yourself. Having an interest is important nonetheless. If your teacher is presenting the material poorly, your innate interest will lead to you seeking out that information elsewhere. But that other source of information still need to present it in a understandable way. If you aren't interested, that won't happen. Interest just means you are more willing to find alternative forms of presentation.
@AshLeeeeee
@AshLeeeeee 3 жыл бұрын
I disagree. I think that if you find a good enough presenter, they would find ways to hook you in, no matter the topic
@etiennefrancois5884
@etiennefrancois5884 3 жыл бұрын
A good presentation will make you feel interested - that's what a good presentation is. That's why channels like Veritasium and Vsauce are so popular
@Pearcinator
@Pearcinator 5 ай бұрын
I'm a teacher who just discovered your channel. When you asked those people what Learning Style they were I imagined what I'd say in that position and I would have said "all of them - I'm a multi-modal learner". Then you went on and talked about multimodality so I take some solace in the fact that I am doing my best for my students in following this approach.
@Eternal_11_Sasha
@Eternal_11_Sasha 8 ай бұрын
I have been a dog trainer for 10 years. I have always believe there are different learning styles and therefore present my training in a way that touches on all three. I demonstrate, explain, and give worksheets to every client. I have always done it this way to ensure the information is absorbed by my clients since I am not able to determine each and every clients learning style. Dog training really should be called people training. That said, I never realized this was a thing and it's called multimedia. I guess now I feel a bit silly for not realizing that. I have always felt like I understand new things best by a bit of everything. I like to hear it explained, see it done, take notes, read the instructions (or read about a topic), and try it for myself. I incorporate a lot of "experience" stories to clients to help them understand why something might be happening or what could happen if they do something a certain way. I loved this presentation on learning. This has definitely broadened my thoughts on the subject.
@ed118520
@ed118520 3 жыл бұрын
"Most people would learn geography better with a map" That checks out
@danporath536
@danporath536 3 жыл бұрын
You can also take the people and the map to the geography.
@engelsseele2
@engelsseele2 3 жыл бұрын
Nah just tell them it is 5 thousand miles north of the south pole and 12 thousand south of the north pole and 60 thousand west of the Philippines they will know exactly where its at that way.
@facefact3737
@facefact3737 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry, but I Do learn way faster by observing visual information in combination with text. An image helps a lot to remember stuff... Am I a visual learner: well I learn faster and with more ease.
@Billionaire_Hustle.183
@Billionaire_Hustle.183 3 жыл бұрын
@@facefact3737 hey should watch the video fully
@thecakeredux
@thecakeredux 3 жыл бұрын
@@engelsseele2 That may actually just be a matter of what you're used to. After all, I can completely relate those numbers to eachother in any other context and they give in fact a way better picture of the relation of one place to another than does a map, simply because just visually gauging seems to be very inaccurate, let alone the fact that maps distort A LOT due to projections, so learning the size of Russia by looking at a map is quite literally the WORST thing you can do, because its apparent size on a map is like twice its actual size.
@Caffeinepirate-oc2hc
@Caffeinepirate-oc2hc Жыл бұрын
"How do you know you are visual learner." "I don't. I assumed." What a legend.
@tiasm919
@tiasm919 8 ай бұрын
Absolute legend
@NachitenRemix
@NachitenRemix 8 ай бұрын
Genius man that accepts his own limitations
@holyelephantmg8838
@holyelephantmg8838 8 ай бұрын
More honest than most
@CasalGamerGG
@CasalGamerGG 8 ай бұрын
He spoiled the whole video from begining.
@abcdzyne
@abcdzyne 7 ай бұрын
he must have seen something!
@ab-sa24
@ab-sa24 7 ай бұрын
To my mind, it's your attitude towards what you are learning that makes a difference, if you are interested and motivated to learn you will do your best to understand and find the right ways to remember essential information, I agree that a different material requires a different learning style. Sometimes I remember by visualizing pictures, and sometimes by listening, and more often by watching videos for example.
@june5877
@june5877 9 ай бұрын
The interesting thing here is that, when i was a younger, i thought of myself as a visual/ kinesthetic learner in the sense that i needed to either see something physically happen or do it myself to internalize it. While there is certainly some truth to that for me, as I've gotten into college, i'm noticing exactly this - the best approach is a combination. Some things really sink in when you hear them, some when you see them, and some when you feel them, etc. The most beneficial thing is to take the same concept and approach it from so many perspectives that at least one sticks and to just continuously do that.
@sylvesteraguilar1876
@sylvesteraguilar1876 3 жыл бұрын
My learning style is: "oh sh*t tomorrow's the deadline"
@Jetoro
@Jetoro 3 жыл бұрын
Procastinator
@johnlemon9021
@johnlemon9021 3 жыл бұрын
That's my style too!!
@hamzaghazi
@hamzaghazi 3 жыл бұрын
@@Jetoro the best learning experience is where your heart is beating like a rabbit
@thekaryodysseys6360
@thekaryodysseys6360 3 жыл бұрын
My preferred learning style is the adrenaline rush 10 minutes before the test
@Coolsomeone234
@Coolsomeone234 3 жыл бұрын
@@Jetoro should have added "the"
@RealJoshBinder
@RealJoshBinder 2 жыл бұрын
"When we already believe the world to be a certain way, then we interpret new experiences to fit those beliefs."
@Flipstylee6
@Flipstylee6 2 жыл бұрын
This is known as "Confirmation Bias"
@sailordayix
@sailordayix 2 жыл бұрын
And it applies to so many fields
@huskiehuskerson5300
@huskiehuskerson5300 2 жыл бұрын
That's why indoctrination is always a bad idea.
@joshuamclean9345
@joshuamclean9345 2 жыл бұрын
A test that tests sequence memorisation says very little about the success of a learning style.
@tsham5940
@tsham5940 2 жыл бұрын
A statement that best describe the majority of research done in education
@LadyPenumbra
@LadyPenumbra 2 ай бұрын
My sister was part of a huge, 50 State VARK study. The largest and most conclusive study ever done. The conclusion at which they arrived was this: switching up teaching styles helps all children remain engaged in their studies. Not that e eryone has a learning style. The study concluded that everyone has all learning styles.
@user-zt3zm9fz5l
@user-zt3zm9fz5l 5 ай бұрын
2:58 "How do you know you're a visual learner? -I don't, I just assume" This man figured it out
@Uzknown
@Uzknown 3 жыл бұрын
The best way to learn something is being actually interested in the topic.
@shallbric6160
@shallbric6160 3 жыл бұрын
Or to memorize every problem.
@elmz
@elmz 3 жыл бұрын
So by extension, the best teacher is one who manages to make/keep their students interested.
@friesingcold
@friesingcold 3 жыл бұрын
Yes
@phs125
@phs125 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. Also, if your job compels you to learn about it...
@Kenabukanyo
@Kenabukanyo 3 жыл бұрын
@@elmz Yesss . That's it
@silverblue73
@silverblue73 3 жыл бұрын
That one guy, "How do you know?" "I don't, I just assume." Most honest human answer to anything we experience ever
@QuantumRead
@QuantumRead 3 жыл бұрын
"Any empirical data on that?" "No I made it up to make me feel better" would end so many arguments, and its not even shameful its just understandable
@Anastas1786
@Anastas1786 3 жыл бұрын
Socrates would be pleased.
@damyr
@damyr 3 жыл бұрын
How did you succeed in making a comment with 7 rows to be presented here without YT breaking it by adding "read more"?
@cliftut
@cliftut 3 жыл бұрын
@@damyr Personally I had to click "read more". Are you positive you didn't click it so automatically that you didn't realize you had? I've done stuff like that before.
@krx3070
@krx3070 3 жыл бұрын
Well most of the science that we were taught was developed after assuming a lot of stuff
@User_Taken
@User_Taken 8 ай бұрын
This makes so much sense, as I could never pick one specific learning style which worked best for me. For me, I always found I learn best when I have all three modalities of learning together, and separating them into individual categories just felt dumb, but I always played along with the surveys and picked one. I'm so glad I found this and now know I'm wasn't completely crazy.
@TheBnzr
@TheBnzr 10 ай бұрын
This is a myth in the public, not in education. We've understood this for a long time.
@Ryan_gogaku
@Ryan_gogaku 9 ай бұрын
A person with an Ed.D. put a whole paragraph about "learning styles" into their cover letter applying for a job at a university I work at. It's really not dead, sadly, especially among K-12 and education schools.
@LordXela777
@LordXela777 2 жыл бұрын
Veritas: How do you know that? "I don't, I just assume." Smartest dude of the bunch.
@slippz3414
@slippz3414 2 жыл бұрын
i was waitijng for this comment
@abhijeetptl5
@abhijeetptl5 2 жыл бұрын
About the post the same comment :D
@redridingcape
@redridingcape 2 жыл бұрын
He knows enough to realize how much he doesn't know.
@lkjd3586
@lkjd3586 2 жыл бұрын
"Dude, trust me." Absolutely based and gigachad.
@andrewjacobs5579
@andrewjacobs5579 2 жыл бұрын
Was Just about to comment that myself
@ChanceCooper125
@ChanceCooper125 5 ай бұрын
What this leaves out is the value of Interest and engagement in learning. Gauging performance on a single test won’t show whether or not being forced to learn in a way that doesn’t match your preference long-term affects your desire for lifelong learning etc.
@anaisdebeaumont9571
@anaisdebeaumont9571 6 ай бұрын
I think for me I loved when we were doing different types of learning styles, the way of learning is important but I feel like eventually it comes down to implicating students and encourage flexibility. Give them time and enough supports but not too much as not to overwhelm them. I lack structure and I have ADHD so it’s important that things are clear. For example I always noticed that images, mind maps didn’t help me on their own because I don’t understand what exactly we have to learn from them. I think where we get it wrong is that we are not really good at one specific learning style but we can have difficulties with some because of specific disabilities that are often not addressed like bad hearing, bad eyesight, dalton’s vision, dyslexia, etc. I see a flaw in the test you ran, it only uses short term memory and doesn’t apply to things that don’t need to be copied and paste but understood and manipulated
@brandonzhang5808
@brandonzhang5808 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a clarity learner. I learn better when the information is clearer.
@aalok4325
@aalok4325 3 жыл бұрын
see my comment
@sebassifyy
@sebassifyy 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@ENikolaev
@ENikolaev 3 жыл бұрын
@Dyanosis not true at all 😂😂 maybe you’re just dumb. Plenty of courses I had ZERO interest in yet retained clear information ☠️
@channelname4331
@channelname4331 3 жыл бұрын
isn't that literally everyone?
@justyce_yt
@justyce_yt 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed :3
@nimrodthewise836
@nimrodthewise836 3 жыл бұрын
It's about engagement, students learn better when their attention is maintained.. most people say they're visual learners because that's the easiest sense to actively engage in learning..
@ffrreeddyy123456
@ffrreeddyy123456 3 жыл бұрын
Especially without distraction.
@mrpotatobaconcarljr1564
@mrpotatobaconcarljr1564 3 жыл бұрын
Whatchu know about rolling down in the deep
@2wayplebney
@2wayplebney 3 жыл бұрын
Yep, entirely about engagement.
@Dhrakhan
@Dhrakhan 3 жыл бұрын
I totally agree, the worst teachers I've had, mostly didn't care and just went on to give the class and hoped we copied everything
@mrpotatobaconcarljr1564
@mrpotatobaconcarljr1564 3 жыл бұрын
@@Dhrakhan when your brain goes numb you can call that mental freeze
@nodonn99999
@nodonn99999 8 ай бұрын
The discussion and exercises in the video often equate learning with memorisation. When people say they are visual learners, I think they are trying to express that they can often understand complex concepts faster/better by seeing a visual representation, rather than pages of text. If instead of a list of items to remember you had given people a written explanation of how a volcano or a TV works, vs a diagram or animation explaining the same and compare how quickly and comprehensively people understood, you may see a different results, or at least results more aligned with what people are trying to express.
@viniciusdesouzamaia
@viniciusdesouzamaia 7 ай бұрын
There is one element to this that was not addressed: as a teacher, it does not really matter if the RCT said VARK doesn't work, once your student already believes that it does. The placebo effect is strong and it affects other important aspects of learning like comfort and motivation. So it often pays off to go along with peoples preferences to an extent. It is good to know that it doesn't hold any water though, so you can focus on more important things about the classroom rather than trying to inventory everyone's own thing.
@jehree9850
@jehree9850 7 ай бұрын
I kinda get what you're saying, but I don't think lying or pretending that something exists and matters is a healthy way to maintain interest from your students. Especially when it could be harmful to make your students think they're bad at learning in a certain way when they are not.
@adamemac
@adamemac 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting. My learning style is: slow.
@divij6910
@divij6910 3 жыл бұрын
Lol can relate so bad.
@leainelodoen5519
@leainelodoen5519 3 жыл бұрын
Lol! Mine too!
@piyushgupta6693
@piyushgupta6693 3 жыл бұрын
Lol me too 😂
@willhutton1516
@willhutton1516 3 жыл бұрын
Slow, but detailed learning, my friend.
@Zie-Zwei
@Zie-Zwei 3 жыл бұрын
Me brain in study or in exam Pls help My brain when playin WT/WoT LT go here, defend this flank, kill that R3 T20, arty annoying LT kick their ass, flank enemy is weak and cant spread tank anymore, rush he need to reload
@Prowooshyeast
@Prowooshyeast 3 жыл бұрын
My science teacher always said that there is no learning style. As long as you make the topic engaging and interesting the students learn. And the only way to do that is by involving all the 4 senses you require. Eyes for visual, ears for audio, mouth for communication and hands for hands on.
@avani.shah.lipman7708
@avani.shah.lipman7708 3 жыл бұрын
Smell: what about me?
@andrew7955
@andrew7955 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a taste learner. I have to taste the topics related objects to understand yhem
@magpie.314
@magpie.314 3 жыл бұрын
I guess taste testers are a myth then 😂
@jc8153
@jc8153 3 жыл бұрын
Bonus points comedy
@samolofsson2401
@samolofsson2401 3 жыл бұрын
Taste is bad in science take a bite of mercury or sulpheric acid, or asbestos and see how long you will live, or swallow a pice of plutonium.
@PiperStart
@PiperStart 8 ай бұрын
Well done. Having sat through professional development sessions in using the bogus Learning Style approach, your video is a breath of fresh air.
@33Jenesis
@33Jenesis 8 ай бұрын
I watched countless KZfaq videos to self learn front crawl and breaststroke. It wasn’t just visual but the coaches’ verbal explanations and pointers. I learned swing dance, K-pop dance, and ballet the same way. I also paint, crochet, do mix media art, and make jewelry by watching and listening (followed by doing). Knowledge that doesn’t require doing or practicing is learned by listening and reading. Learning is to transform short term memory into long term by repeated immersing and doing.
@BoojumFed
@BoojumFed 3 жыл бұрын
Plot twist: Turns out *_everyone_* is a "What I pay attention to" learner...
@VArsovski10
@VArsovski10 3 жыл бұрын
Not really, concentration certainly is needed but NOONE can be concentrated at everything, thus there's a "preference" to classify/separate on what's important to what isn't, and usually one of the ways to "increase capacity" of what can be learned is writing things down Or, at least that's how I did/do.. :)
@salamanca1954
@salamanca1954 3 жыл бұрын
So, distinction without a difference?
@pyrojkl
@pyrojkl 3 жыл бұрын
and the ones that learn the best across all subjects tend to be one's that employ learning techniques that are not actively taught by the teacher. This is why vocab is such a poor subject for many kids. not many people will just learn a list of words and definitions even when used in stories. meanwhile if you have multiple activities for each concept, when tested on the material you will see better results. Especially when activities engage more.
@fransjewraptastic1389
@fransjewraptastic1389 3 жыл бұрын
haha GOT'EM
@residentmanager3088
@residentmanager3088 3 жыл бұрын
I’m too poor to pay attention.
@luqmanmohd2737
@luqmanmohd2737 3 жыл бұрын
"People learn best when they are actively thinking about the material." This is it.
@petrabanjarnahor229
@petrabanjarnahor229 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly, the practical use of cognition into anki spaced repetition is more credible than VARK.
@eduardochavacano
@eduardochavacano 3 жыл бұрын
or when the teacher is not old and smelly.
@cristianproust
@cristianproust 3 жыл бұрын
That is a critical flaw in the video. Learning and understanding are different. Understanding a diagram is different from being able to do it a year later. People have different "understanding" styles, and learning is fixing it in your memory to make it yours through time.
@kevinsykes6645
@kevinsykes6645 3 жыл бұрын
Musical instruments and learning; thinking about music you are learning increases your ability to play it on an instrument. 2weeks without an instrument BUT thinking about playing on that instrument will speed the ability to play any tune on an instrument. I.e get it in your head
@nekoimouto4639
@nekoimouto4639 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, like he said "Learning Styles" is probably more a personal preference. Like i am personally fascinated by animations of mechanical interactions, but they alone probably wont help me learn how a combustion engine works without a written or spoken explanation of whats happening. Likewise i also prefer to look up text-based tutorials on things i immediately want to learn in, say, photoshop, than watching a youtube tutorial. Despite myself believing that im more of a "visual learner".
@ZeBear
@ZeBear 6 ай бұрын
Most students learning style is: stress induced
@alfonsorodriguez6739
@alfonsorodriguez6739 3 ай бұрын
I has this exact experience in my classes. A student told me 'I'm a visual learner, so I don't understand anything when you explain things verbally". He pigeonholed himself and disengaged completely because of the "style" they told him.
@sahilchouhan6459
@sahilchouhan6459 3 жыл бұрын
My learning style is: “I’ll do it tomorrow.”
@Antebios
@Antebios 3 жыл бұрын
My soulmate. 🤣
@alchemist6819
@alchemist6819 3 жыл бұрын
Oh so you are like me: a procrastinator
@koolduck_2498
@koolduck_2498 3 жыл бұрын
OH MY GOD 🤣🤣🤣😆
@zootymczoot9134
@zootymczoot9134 3 жыл бұрын
Paused the video to read the comments. I’ll come back soon
@madshorn5826
@madshorn5826 3 жыл бұрын
Which is a good strategy if you are stressed and tired today. If you always are tired and stressed you should adress this before embarking on learning. It is totally worth it: learning is the most mind altering drug out there ;-) And how will you "cheat" the laws of nature by near-magic like mobile phones, penicillin and robots if you don't know the rules?
@QuintBUILDs
@QuintBUILDs 3 жыл бұрын
We're told the public isn't interested in education, but then a video on learning styles proves extremely popular. Conclusion: people crave education that delivers!
@joeyko6779
@joeyko6779 3 жыл бұрын
Woah!
@Iffyish
@Iffyish 3 жыл бұрын
When I saw the views, I just assumed this was like a week old, but I looked at the time after seeing your comment. It's only been up for 5hrs, and it's 3/4 of the way to a million views already.💫 It's a relevant topic. In school, I was frustrated with how the material we had access to in middle school was divided up based on "learning style," which meant nobody had access to all of the explanatory information. It seemed counterproductive when we could've instead learned to share, providing everyone with all the necessary material.
@mol_old
@mol_old 3 жыл бұрын
This is still an average performing video... Also audience of a science KZfaqr ≠ "the public"
@SayNoobB4ULeave
@SayNoobB4ULeave 3 жыл бұрын
i like your optimism but people who watch science videos on youtube are not a cross-section of the public
@DavidJamesHenry
@DavidJamesHenry 3 жыл бұрын
That's anecdotal and unscientific
@larryrottenberk7771
@larryrottenberk7771 6 ай бұрын
Seeing something get done, teaches me, actually doing it, solidifies the knowledge. I believe that would be considered hands-on learning, with a splash of visual.
@thirstycaterpillar
@thirstycaterpillar 4 ай бұрын
My learning style is explaining what I’m learning to others to solidify it in my brain (and annoy them in the process).
@Puskie796
@Puskie796 3 жыл бұрын
"I think one of the most common traps people fall into is only searching for infomation that confirms what they already beleive" wise words
@JD-ib4cr
@JD-ib4cr 3 жыл бұрын
Is that confirmation bias?
@user-fl7zn2tn9q
@user-fl7zn2tn9q 3 жыл бұрын
@@JD-ib4cr Yes and he has an interesting video about that topic also.
@goldenbananas1389
@goldenbananas1389 3 жыл бұрын
confirmation bias is definitely way too common and holds our society back.
@Griffith307
@Griffith307 3 жыл бұрын
Idk why but isn't what you quoted the same thing it's arguing about?
@windowsos-exestoppedworkin5391
@windowsos-exestoppedworkin5391 3 жыл бұрын
As I was reading this he said the exact same sentence bc I forgot to pause the video
@willhelliwell
@willhelliwell 2 жыл бұрын
I tried learning to code for ages. It wasn't until I had a reason to actually code something I was interested in that it clicked. I believe that's the key. Find a reason, find a passion, learn and put into practice.
@joshurlay
@joshurlay 2 жыл бұрын
From experience, I agree. I started a math major in college and had amazing results. I always took things I learned and tried to tackle impossible problems in mathematics with those. It still helps me today now that I've switched to a bachelor's in computer science and am now learning to code.
@joshurlay
@joshurlay 2 жыл бұрын
You also be nimble, be creative, and spark connections in your brain. Manipulate the new information to suit any new curiosities and do it often.
@livingsgb
@livingsgb 2 жыл бұрын
There's no substitute for passion!
@flameofthephoenix8395
@flameofthephoenix8395 2 жыл бұрын
I personally also program, and I don't honestly have a reason, I just do it as a hobby, well a hobby that I spend every second on but still a hobby.
@miketype1each
@miketype1each 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely true, this.
@skeletini9836
@skeletini9836 2 ай бұрын
as an education major, i dealt with classmates who when confronted with the fact that there is no evidence to show individuals have significant differences in their own learning style, actively rejected the idea because it’s so rooted in our philosophies. luckily, after we learned the real science of it everyone was excited to use it correctly. multimodality extends beyond visual and written/oral language. the most fun lesson i’ve ever done with students had them acting out the life cycle of their research animal in the middle of a big circle of students. it was so impressive to see they remembered things like seahorses linking their tails and my favorite, a mother manatee pushing her newborn baby out of the water for its first breath. i could have cried. learning can be so fun sometimes.
@K0ljaW0dann
@K0ljaW0dann 4 ай бұрын
One of my teachers always encouraged us to actually make cheatsheets. During the test we would rarely need them and, in the end, also did better on the tests. Because we actually read the study material and wrote it down. She made us study by allowing us to be mischievous.
@CSirce
@CSirce 3 жыл бұрын
I find that the best learning style is the desire to learn. Often when introducing a new topic or subject, teachers need to draw that desire out, and then the student will be motivated to learn. One of the biggest questions I often hear in class as a student is "why do we need to learn this?" If the teacher cannot answer that in a satisfying way, the student will be less likely to retain what they learn.
@seth7745
@seth7745 3 жыл бұрын
This is amplified in ADHD students. Studies have found that ADHD students are under represented in engineering, but run circles around "normal" students in engineering when they are taught with a stronger emphasis on intuition based learning and applying the learning in a gratifying way. People with ADHD are incapable of staying focused if they do not see relevance in what they are learning. IMO, there are a lot more people with undiagnosed ADHD than realized. I don't even think its a disorder, just a different type of cognition. The systems in place simply don't facilitate this learning style because they just want to have students memorize cookie cutter problems for exams and get them pushed through as quickly as possible.
@jenius9164
@jenius9164 3 жыл бұрын
Autistic until proven otherwise here. This is so true. If someone doesn't want to learn, or doesn't see the value in what they're learning, they simply won't, because they don't care. My preferred learning style is games. Probably so is everyone's. If you make a game out of it, kids will remember things better. Teachers be like, "why can y'all memorize these rap songs but not the periodic table of the elements?" Because it's not fun and they don't care. They don't see the value in learning the periodic table of the elements beyond not wanting to get in trouble with their parents. For me, learning itself was fun. The process of learning was fun. No other kid I knew felt this way. If kids aren't engaged, you gotta find a way to appeal to them, and make it fun.
@apples.thatisall1878
@apples.thatisall1878 3 жыл бұрын
I love that both the replies are about autism and adhd, since I was about to go on a rant about the same thing lol. I’ve always thought my learning style was “doing” or I guess kinetic, but that’s really because when I’m doing something I’m actively engaged and I *want* to be. Chemistry for me this past year was fun and interesting because it was new and exciting, algebra 2 was the worst math class I’ve ever taken because it wasn’t… but trig at the end of the year was fun. The best way to get students to retain information is to get them engaged and having fun, instead of stressing the crap out of them and using traditional methods that are way outdated.
@JensengTea
@JensengTea 3 жыл бұрын
@@jenius9164 I would like to "softly" dispute this. I'm ADHD and college was hell for me. However, I love to learn. I think learning new things is one of the most satisfying aspects of being alive. The problem for me was learning in SCHOOL. Being forced to learn was no longer learning to me. It was a chore. And I hate chores. Often times, I would be interested in a subject, but would not get a good final grade. I think learning in school is a completely different thing from learning in general.
@ethanwei9762
@ethanwei9762 3 жыл бұрын
MAKE THIS MAN PRESIDENT
@arubikcubethatshouldnthave4440
@arubikcubethatshouldnthave4440 3 жыл бұрын
"how do you know you're a visual learner" "I don't, I just assumed." *_He is the chosen one_*
@mikhail2459
@mikhail2459 3 жыл бұрын
istg hahah
@rern5998
@rern5998 3 жыл бұрын
My brother said i can get new potato if i can get 1k subs
@koloblican11763
@koloblican11763 3 жыл бұрын
I thought the same thing. I said out loud to my cat, "I like that dude."
@bertanfarizi3878
@bertanfarizi3878 3 жыл бұрын
2:59
@arubikcubethatshouldnthave4440
@arubikcubethatshouldnthave4440 3 жыл бұрын
@@rern5998 My brother said i can get new potato if i can get 1k subs
@carebeary111
@carebeary111 4 ай бұрын
I'm in the learning and development department at a manufacturing facility. We used this test in orientation to help for when new hires go to the floor to train. I've been working on shifting us away from the learning style model for a few months now. This video is super helpful!!!
@mitachiuchiha1426
@mitachiuchiha1426 5 ай бұрын
In school I had the topic "learn learning" which covered those types. Later on in my training as a careworker I had this topic again. This time my teacher told me that we all have a prefered learning style (one of the types), but we learn best if we use all types. He called it canels. If we trigger all our canels (visual, audotory, read/write and kinesthetic) we learn the best. Its the combinations that helps to manifest the input given to you in your brain. And a little extra: We had a fifth type - communication. Learning best in groups and talking with others about it.
@Jef_Vermassen
@Jef_Vermassen 3 жыл бұрын
I never thought of learning styles during my education. What I did notice: I always did better when teachers where passionate about the subject and in turn made the classes more interesting. It didn't even matter how easy or strict, how likeable or dislikeable the teacher was. It just worked for me and had a drastic effect on my grades.
@blink182lives100
@blink182lives100 3 жыл бұрын
Same with me! Their passion was contagious and I would find myself having the same type of motivation as them to learn/do the work
@mm_nature
@mm_nature 3 жыл бұрын
Agree with you. If the presentation is interesting, then I was ready to accept any style. I think the successful learning is more about skillful communication between the teacher and the students rather than learning styles.
@taylorleeforcongress8470
@taylorleeforcongress8470 3 жыл бұрын
I thought your last name was Veritasium XD
@pyramlinum9514
@pyramlinum9514 3 жыл бұрын
This right here should be thought about so much more. The two classes I’ve taken thus far in college that I really enjoyed and felt like I learned a lot from were the two taught by teachers who were well incorporated into the subject and loved their work.
@Dell-ol6hb
@Dell-ol6hb 3 жыл бұрын
100% agreed seeing another person be so unabashedly passionate about a subject is magnetic to me and instantly makes me many more time interested and focused on what they have to say.
@andrewh5239
@andrewh5239 3 жыл бұрын
“what kind of learner are you?” “a slow one…”
@16khirodchandrasabar31
@16khirodchandrasabar31 3 жыл бұрын
Haha 😂😂 me too
@Laura-Yu
@Laura-Yu 3 жыл бұрын
Relatable
@NotBeef
@NotBeef 3 жыл бұрын
as an autistic guy i felt that
@Jobobn1998
@Jobobn1998 3 жыл бұрын
Oof, saaame. I tend to hold onto information very strongly when I do learn it, but I'm a slow learner and I can get overwhelmed really easily.
@jorgevargassoto6731
@jorgevargassoto6731 3 жыл бұрын
I´m the kind of guy who has to repeat at least 10x to learn something new...
@km3268
@km3268 7 ай бұрын
Teacher here, and I had trouble buying into the “learning styles“ storyline. One of my fellow skeptics said that even if the learning styles theory is true, shouldn’t you challenge students to strengthen themselves where they are weak? If you are an auditory learner, shouldn’t you work on visual learning? If you go to the gym with huge arms but skinny legs, are you going to keep building your arms or are you going to work on your legs? Unfortunately,I think a lot of educational research is weak.
@litchar
@litchar 5 ай бұрын
If you have a student who is almost blind are you going to show them more pictures?
@dabartos4713
@dabartos4713 2 ай бұрын
I imagined riding a bike on a cloudy freezing rock beach under drizzle and watching a penguin standing next to his tiny penguin bed with a bell around his neck being annoyed about the rain.
@DrTrefor
@DrTrefor 3 жыл бұрын
I’m so glad you’ve made this video, as a professor I’ve noticed many of my students have really bought into these ideas about learning and unfortunately will often attached fixed mindsets to their ability to learn depending on whether the pedagogy matches their preferred learning style.
@Baxtab13
@Baxtab13 3 жыл бұрын
Of course we bought into this. A concerning number of my K12 teachers bought into this too. Almost total reinforcement from the outset for this line of thinking.
@Jack-ju7pm
@Jack-ju7pm 3 жыл бұрын
This video is so interesting because there are a number of articles that deal with learning and pedagogical practice in terms of learning style. Especially concerning indigenous cultures.
@gabriellagiselle2999
@gabriellagiselle2999 3 жыл бұрын
I strongly regret my past 2 yrs in university having the exact mindset u mentioned... After realizing book is one of the the best methods, learning became less tougher. (Never easy though...)
@korinoriz
@korinoriz 3 жыл бұрын
There's the pitfall we have to be wary of in accepting "everyone learns the same way" though. That being, people will throw those with learning disabilities or just take a little longer to understand a topic under the bus (as we tend to do already). Despite the fact there's plenty of dyslexic people, for example, who have contributed to science (since we value that so much). Also, doing well in school isn't indicative of future success. My mother who's a nurse said a lot of straight A students weren't cut for real work, just to give a personal example. There's plenty out there though. There's more to this than just "everyone learns the same". What about teaching styles? Genetics? Cultural values? Use of language? Environment? Mental states/stresses? Or maybe something we haven't thought of yet. This stuff is not as cut and dry as so many people think it is. That within itself is why it's so heavily debated and controversial.
@madshorn5826
@madshorn5826 3 жыл бұрын
@@korinoriz This. The difference the New Zealand teacher saw between teachers may not be down to "learning styles", but to 'seeing' the individual pupil. If a teacher listen to the pupil and accommodate the pupil feel safe and valued and this further learning. When the pupil is on board with learning the teacher can nudge the pupil in a direction of instruction that makes the teacher's life easier. Trying to do it the other way around disconnect a substantial percentage of pupils from learning. Sadly the focus today is on "efficiency" and standardization and the-devil-take-the-rest. I would posit that we are currently sacrificing ~10% of pupils because they have a hard time moving in lockstep, not because they are unable to learn.
@TheGDHGS
@TheGDHGS 3 жыл бұрын
"People learn geography better with maps." I'm one of the few who learns geography better by listening to the locations in sonar. 🐬
@AmandaFreitas1998
@AmandaFreitas1998 3 жыл бұрын
😅🤣🤣
@acat6145
@acat6145 3 жыл бұрын
Good job
@alexsmith7801
@alexsmith7801 3 жыл бұрын
Are you an active or a passive sonar learner?
@barakamujtaba6888
@barakamujtaba6888 3 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@martinpalmer6203
@martinpalmer6203 3 жыл бұрын
I learn Geography better by not being American 😁😆🤣🤣🤣
@gdcurious
@gdcurious 3 ай бұрын
My style: to find the 'why' Find the purpose of learning its give me motivation.
@bethanyray6421
@bethanyray6421 4 ай бұрын
i’ve always felt like i am all in one. like i need to be listening to someone explain AND watching them WHILE i am doing whatever they are teaching me OR writing down whatever it is they are telling me
@cjmassino
@cjmassino 3 жыл бұрын
The guy who recognized that he was making an assumption is my hero.
@FlashDAH
@FlashDAH 3 жыл бұрын
Self awareness is so underrated
@uacbpa
@uacbpa 3 жыл бұрын
Or you are making an assumption of him being a hero.
@salty_deez
@salty_deez 3 жыл бұрын
red pilled
@hadriscus
@hadriscus 3 жыл бұрын
yeah same I thought that was very self-aware of him
@TEFLONDONTRUMP2024
@TEFLONDONTRUMP2024 3 жыл бұрын
He eats mushrooms
@MrDedham
@MrDedham 3 жыл бұрын
The guy who says "I dont , just assume" is was ahead of the curve here
@aka0989
@aka0989 3 жыл бұрын
and you is are ahead of the keyboard here
@sidshot2636
@sidshot2636 3 жыл бұрын
@@aka0989 😂😂😂
@FBT_12
@FBT_12 3 жыл бұрын
Bro, you is was good at grammar! 👍
@CurvaceousCrow
@CurvaceousCrow 3 жыл бұрын
@@FBT_12 is are*
@thunderborn3231
@thunderborn3231 3 жыл бұрын
@@CurvaceousCrow but if is was be who then what was is isn't?
@beanedtea
@beanedtea 2 ай бұрын
I love it when a teacher gives students a diagnostic to understand what kind of learner a student is or how much a student knows, but they never do anything with this information.
@britishenglishkim1066
@britishenglishkim1066 4 ай бұрын
I’ve been teaching English to ESL students for years and I’ve seen this happen. I found that being able to talk and share stories that incorporate new information, they learn and remember much more easily than being given a list of vocabulary or grammar rules to learn. It makes learning much faster and more fun if the information has context.
@louisfrancisco2171
@louisfrancisco2171 3 жыл бұрын
"How do you know?" "I don't. I just assumed." I like that guy. A lot of people could learn from him.
@Diditallforthexp
@Diditallforthexp 3 жыл бұрын
That's a dude who's really learned something from the world.
@sketchesofpayne
@sketchesofpayne 3 жыл бұрын
@@Diditallforthexp No, he just never questioned anything.
@wisecounsel6135
@wisecounsel6135 3 жыл бұрын
He has a Assumption style of learning
@wesleymercer4536
@wesleymercer4536 3 жыл бұрын
I think this is the best answer for this learning model.
@givinnatanlie4619
@givinnatanlie4619 3 жыл бұрын
I like his honesty XD
@cjheaford
@cjheaford 3 жыл бұрын
I’m an ignominious learner. I only seem to learn if crushing emotional humiliation and pain is involved.
@thebush6077
@thebush6077 3 жыл бұрын
I feel this in my bones.
@DyslexicMitochondria
@DyslexicMitochondria 3 жыл бұрын
Ooof same
@sterlingarcher8041
@sterlingarcher8041 3 жыл бұрын
@@DyslexicMitochondria hey bro I watch your videos. Love your channel
@imveryangryitsnotbutter
@imveryangryitsnotbutter 3 жыл бұрын
There's a subculture for that.
@razzix2
@razzix2 3 жыл бұрын
There is a saying I am fond of. If it didn't hurt - you didn't learn anything. While not true in all scenarios I definitely see a LOT of people who aren't learning simply because their actions did not yield a suitable pain response.
@santai930
@santai930 3 ай бұрын
My learning style is : watching short video on tiktok about a subject and then scroll down to another subject
@davidpopolizio3781
@davidpopolizio3781 Ай бұрын
I cited and linked this video as part of my homework assignment in an introduction to college course and the professor decided to add it to his curriculum for future students. That's wild
@jacquelynXleigh
@jacquelynXleigh 3 жыл бұрын
I learned, as an educator, that information needs to be presented multi-modally in order for a lesson to be effective for any one person. Not because there are actually learning styles, but because we need to process information in more than one way to retain it.
@chadchan1316
@chadchan1316 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@yiminey27
@yiminey27 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed! I bought into "learning styles" for years until I was taught about multi-modal teaching in my Elementary education program in college.
@Kubuluno
@Kubuluno 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely, agreed. I always find it that explaining a new learned topic to another person helps me so much with retaining the knowledge.
@tanyaroberson9394
@tanyaroberson9394 3 жыл бұрын
I always figured people learn more if you say it- and write it on the white board- and draw a diagram or mime it out- because the more you repeat it the more its retained- I always thought the learning style thing sounded bogus.
@realseason6793
@realseason6793 3 жыл бұрын
exactly right. And if you want to pull it up on a higher note: if this video and this utterance is correct, it means that we can finally put bruners theory of the multiple intelligences to rest. Not to take anything away from anybody, but to kill this PC movement, that is taking over everything these days
@skepticmoderate5790
@skepticmoderate5790 3 жыл бұрын
"How do you know?" "I don't know. I just assume." I think I would get along with this guy.
@IvanIalanji
@IvanIalanji 3 жыл бұрын
the most real guy out of everyone interviewed
@m1_1911
@m1_1911 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a physicist to me!
@Blackwingsss
@Blackwingsss 3 жыл бұрын
He was the closest to the truth.
@swordman2000
@swordman2000 3 жыл бұрын
i am glad they didnt cut him out! he's so honest and I love it.
@someoneiswatching
@someoneiswatching 9 ай бұрын
Sometime "Pain" is the best teacher because you always learn something from it
@barbaralukas1453
@barbaralukas1453 9 ай бұрын
This "experiment" is more a test of memory than an individual's learning style....
@DanHimes-rf4pg
@DanHimes-rf4pg 5 ай бұрын
Exactly my issue with the research in the subject. Especially young kids seem to remember pictures better than words. My other issue is that (some) researchers in the field have generalized the results so declare that there are no differences- reflective vs active- etc. on things that require "deep processing." I just don't see the data to be able to rule them out. I taught college physics for 15 years, and I *think* I saw differences. But I don't know because I wasn't carefully measuring. I am curious, though.
@bx3556
@bx3556 3 жыл бұрын
Best teachers are those who engage and excite students about the material and use multi-media presentation without boring people or overloading or underloading them.
@demoncloud6147
@demoncloud6147 3 жыл бұрын
A rare species those teachers are
@Travestyalpha
@Travestyalpha 3 жыл бұрын
I interviewed a lot of very good teachers - almost all were good storytellers and used humour in their teaching. It didn’t matter how they lectured (or didn’t lecture). It seems in a non scientific perspective that what mattered is their in classroom charisma.
@jamesdewane1642
@jamesdewane1642 3 жыл бұрын
Robin and B X both say it well. I call it cranking the fun machine. Charisma and humor both depend on correct loading, which avoids both boredom and overwhelm, only possible when the teacher is tuned in to the feedback, which comes in all forms. And you have to engage to get any feedback at all. Hilarity is a dependable feature of a good dynamic. Hook them. Lead them to surprise and delight. Rinse. Repeat.
@Abdurrahman98XX
@Abdurrahman98XX 3 жыл бұрын
so u want a clown not a teacher
@yachishairclips2250
@yachishairclips2250 3 жыл бұрын
... And this is where almost all my teachers sucked at
@Pokeccc
@Pokeccc 3 жыл бұрын
Now I feel like a genius when I was never convinced with these learning styles.
@Aname550
@Aname550 3 жыл бұрын
You and the rest of Asia
@betatester8137
@betatester8137 3 жыл бұрын
@@Aname550 I'm asian, i also don't convinced this style. Exercise and study like hell like the rest of asian and you're good to go. The most good strategy is to remember back what you learned before.
@TheDemonWasTaken
@TheDemonWasTaken 3 жыл бұрын
Test
@Coolsomeone234
@Coolsomeone234 3 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@Vysair
@Vysair 3 жыл бұрын
Experience is your best teacher. Theoretical learning can never be as efficient as learning by experience. Like programming, you are better off doing coding than just listening to lecture and watch some tutorials. I also find it better to play it with, like test and stuff.
@cherylchristine8805
@cherylchristine8805 8 ай бұрын
Mom, a life long educator, and I were discussing this today. I definitely preferred in classroom settings. And feel like children today have missed two years of education due to the pandemic. I feel I like there is no substitute for being in a class where you get taught by a teacher who allows questions, I guess what you could call an interactive learning style.
@Didleeios88
@Didleeios88 7 ай бұрын
Memorizing a list is not the same type of learning as breaking down complex concepts and understanding how they make sense.
@alifrahman7099
@alifrahman7099 7 ай бұрын
Yeah he said his experiment was not perfect. He did cite studies who did more thorough experiments
@CovenoftheOpenMind
@CovenoftheOpenMind 7 ай бұрын
​​@@alifrahman7099 not only is it not perfect, but it is not sufficient to conclude anything about learning. I am baffled by how many people think they are learning something from this video.
@uraniumeaterr
@uraniumeaterr 6 ай бұрын
@@CovenoftheOpenMind dont talk in a gay way btw
@Forsen807
@Forsen807 6 ай бұрын
@@CovenoftheOpenMind Are you the guy who made VARK
@CovenoftheOpenMind
@CovenoftheOpenMind 6 ай бұрын
@@Forsen807 what is VARK? I think most of psychology is bull. Psychology is a soft science.
@neliaferreira9983
@neliaferreira9983 2 жыл бұрын
So conclusion: HOW you learn depends on WHAT you are learning. It's the subject-at-hand that induces the style of learning, and not the person. You can't learn how to skate by just listening. Revolutionary.
@AdamZollo
@AdamZollo 2 жыл бұрын
Yes. But I'd add that there is a takeaway that a multi-modal approach is usually stronger than a singular approach. Actual skateboarding is an absolute must. However the skateboarder who watches a few internet tutorials or listens to skateboarding podcasts might improve slightly faster than one who just practices their skateboard.
@cerebraldreams4738
@cerebraldreams4738 2 жыл бұрын
@@AdamZollo - Multimodal is superior only because it increases the number of ways that information can be stored in the brain. If you treat learning as probabilistic, where any given learning method has a 50% chance of success no matter who you're dealing with, flipping a coin once on a single learning style means only half the students will actually learn the material. Flip it twice, and 75% of the students get the material on the first day. Flip it four times, and 93.75% of students will learn the material completely on the first day. Presenting any given topic with multiple different approaches will maximize learning for purely probabilistic reasons.
@AdamZollo
@AdamZollo Жыл бұрын
​@@cerebraldreams4738 From my master studies, it is more than just there being more opportunities to learn or "flipping a coin". It comes down to building a more robust neural schema with more "nodes" if you will. Take two groups and teach 100 kids to spell a word they've never heard before. Let's go with Kaiju. Take 10 minutes to show them all how to spell it and tell them briefly what it means. With the second group, also show them a picture of a few Kaiju within that same 10 minutes period. Wait a day, then test both groups on their spelling of Kaiju. My understanding is that group two will be expected to perform better at the task (spelling "Kaiju") even though they actually wasted some time looking at pictures (which isn't even about spelling). This is not because they "flipped more coins" but rather because they've built a bigger neural schema. In fact, those students may close their eyes and visualize a picture they saw to draw out the memory of the spelling. This is similar to the whole idea of creating a memory home.
@tysongray7682
@tysongray7682 Жыл бұрын
I know I'm a little late to the party, but this comment right here, absolutely just lost it, that is hilarious.
@BruceBoschek
@BruceBoschek Жыл бұрын
When I was a kid i found an owner's manual for a Cessna 172 aircraft. I studied it and studied it, made my own drawings, reread parts, made lists of positions of controls, etc. After a year I was certain I could fly a plane. As luck would have it, a few years later I had the chance and...I couldn't.
@goodg33k25
@goodg33k25 3 жыл бұрын
Me: *Is completely blind Veritasium: "You are NOT a visual learner" Me: ...Yeah I kinda thought so
@orphanoforbit7588
@orphanoforbit7588 3 жыл бұрын
Are you blind?
@Vendrimavir
@Vendrimavir 3 жыл бұрын
@@orphanoforbit7588 I don't think they're going to see your comment.
@saatvikagarwal6358
@saatvikagarwal6358 3 жыл бұрын
Oh man
@martonkardos8094
@martonkardos8094 3 жыл бұрын
Actually there are some blind people who are visual learners xd
@gniludio
@gniludio 3 жыл бұрын
@@Vendrimavir Maybe they will hear the comment. Text to speech is a thing...
@gar10gaming60
@gar10gaming60 7 ай бұрын
I think that instead of learning styles, each of the things that people call learning style, is just a different kind of way information is presented, and it is easiest to learn when you combine all of them (like watching a video and seeing pictures (visual) but also getting some commentary about it (audio) and reading about the same thing later and also seeing the same thing in some hands on experience would give you the most learning output)
@ethantrompert3404
@ethantrompert3404 5 ай бұрын
I'm in school in the Netherlands. The learning styles are used but they are used to make sure all the 'styles' are used and mixed in the lessons. It makes teachers add pictures and videos as links for example. Which helps me and others very much. I say I'm a visual learner because I memorise pictures in my head to study and understand the material. Although that could be because of my adhd.
@MusiMasterJam
@MusiMasterJam 2 жыл бұрын
The most frustrating part of all of this for me, as a teacher, is knowing that learning styles were already debunked years before I did my teacher training, getting indoctrinated into this system, and now, fifteen years later, still having learning styles show up regularly in my professional development courses, staff meetings, and job interviews. The entire field of education is notorious for quickly jumping on the bandwagon for every new idea about how to teach better but taking generations to be willing to admit when those ideas have turned out not to be correct.
@AE_AnarchistAlexcianEmpire69Bi
@AE_AnarchistAlexcianEmpire69Bi 2 жыл бұрын
The American School System Is Trash And It Will Continue To Be So Until Someone Does Something Drastic That Will Either Overthrow The Current System Or Force It To Become Better.
@tgamer1510
@tgamer1510 2 жыл бұрын
If you only teach a single way, you're the problem. At least the learning styles encourage teachers to use multiple methods of explaining the same things.
@MusiMasterJam
@MusiMasterJam 2 жыл бұрын
@@tgamer1510 It is a rather large leap to go from an ideological disagreement with a debunked dogma to the assumption that one who disagrees with the theory of learning styles must therefore only teach in one way. I typically teach any given concept in two ways, and try to vary which ways I use from concept to concept. But the principle behind a learning-styles approach is the idea that each student should be taught each concept according to their own learning style, not multiple learning styles. In some applications of this principle (including most of the studies purporting to support this theory), students are separated into cohorts with shared learning styles, and then exclusively taught according to that learning style. In that format, learning styles do not, as you put it, encourage teachers to use multiple methods of explaining the same things, they encourage a lack of variety in teaching methods -- they encourage teachers to always use the same one method, which not only does not turn out to improve student learning despite supposedly respecting each student's learning style, it also eliminates the well-known benefits of teaching a single concept in multiple ways (a principle with which I think we both agree). Conversely, if the students are not grouped according to learning styles cohorts (as I think is probably the more common case), then the doctrine implies that each concept should be taught not only according to more than one style, but that each concept should be taught numerous times, according to each of however many learning styles one happens to accept as meaningful (one of the principal problems that must be determined before any attempt to apply the doctrine). And while I agree that each new re-explanation according to another learning style would improve learning, each new mode also comes with diminishing returns, and we need to take account of the amount of classroom time that is available to teach any given concept when we really need to be moving on to the next concept. There are an enormous number of ideas floating around about how to improve student learning, each of which takes time. Or, as a compromise, we can try to engage all of the learning modalities in a single explanation; from an ideological perspective, this is liable to be a poor compromise, since it may not allow any of the students to fully engage with the topic according to their own learning styles -- not that this matters, of course, since the learning styles are a myth anyway -- but from a practical perspective, this also requires considerably more time, some of which occurs in class and would therefore slow down class progress, but a great of additional time is also required to plan lessons of this kind. And whatever expectations we might have about the amount of time teachers should spend planning their lessons, we are forced to acknowledge that there are ultimate limits dictated by the number of hours in a day. I would rather use what limited time I have available for each concept using methodologies that bring greater returns. In no other field that I know of is it a virtue to continue blindly adhering to debunked hypotheses.
@tgamer1510
@tgamer1510 2 жыл бұрын
@@MusiMasterJam I didn't bother reading your entire reply because I noted that you said I made an assumption when in fact I didn't. I merely said "If you only teach a single way, you're the problem" I never said you did this, nor does my statement imply that's what I was trying to say. I mean it's not really debunked, until you do any testing on a larger or at least better scale. A few hundred similarly educated people in the trial here cannot accurately represent entire populations.
@MusiMasterJam
@MusiMasterJam 2 жыл бұрын
@@tgamer1510 Point taken. Though I would note that the literature debunking learning styles is extensive. Willingham, D., E. Hughes, and D. Dobolyi (2015), "The Scientific Status of Learning Styles Theories", Teaching of Psychology, Vol. 42(3), 266-71 cites nearly a dozen reviews of the literature spanning from as early as the late 1970s to as recently as the mid 2010s demonstrating the failure to support the theory (see especially p. 267). The conclusion that learning styles are now debunked rests by no means on a small body of evidence.
@olegzado
@olegzado 2 жыл бұрын
I dare say that, the so-called 'learning styles' reveal less about how people learn, and more about what medium tends to spark their curiosity. Some like to read, others prefer narrated video. Both mediums can provide equal amounts of learning but, depending on the individual, one will be more engaging than the other. Perhaps 'Learning Styles' should instead be called 'Preferred Medium of Engagement".
@s7ev3n
@s7ev3n 2 жыл бұрын
Great comment
@scottclare7502
@scottclare7502 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve heard learning styles now referred to as learning preferences. The difference being that preferences change in different contexts and over time vs. something you’re born with that doesn’t change.
@huskiehuskerson5300
@huskiehuskerson5300 2 жыл бұрын
@@scottclare7502 exactly it's not one way someone who's watching a video to learn will change to reading it depends of the context as you said
@robt4952
@robt4952 2 жыл бұрын
This video completely confuses the medium and the learning style. See my comment below.
@willcollinson7933
@willcollinson7933 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah this is what I thought during the video. I reflected on my own experience and realised I don't particularly learn better using any one method, but I know doing things and watching videos engages me more than just simply reading or listening.
@Ray-xy1bp
@Ray-xy1bp 7 ай бұрын
I belive that the learning style is not based on how we process the information, its how we recall it. For example, I read my course, I inspected the images, listened to the teacher speaking in class and I tried to apply what I learned. At the end of the day, all I remeber is an image of the subject I tried to understand, not the text writting, a voice explaining the theory or me putting in practice what I learned. Its how we memorize things, not how we process them
@Coffmancinematics
@Coffmancinematics 2 ай бұрын
What a flex, to be sponsored by GOOGLE
@Jasondurgen
@Jasondurgen 3 жыл бұрын
“Are you a visual learner?” “Yeah” “How do you know you’re a visual learner?” “I don’t.” My man
@OtakuNoShitpost
@OtakuNoShitpost 3 жыл бұрын
Love that kind of honesty
@patron9095
@patron9095 3 жыл бұрын
His brain “How do you know I know?”
@MrKail
@MrKail 3 жыл бұрын
He said: "I don´t, I just assumed" which is a perfectly fine answer.
@josephcauthen9448
@josephcauthen9448 3 жыл бұрын
I loved that reply. I would have doubled down suggesting I know that I'm a visual learner. I'm not as honest as that guy.
@christopherredford3540
@christopherredford3540 3 жыл бұрын
Your man.
@ShortHax
@ShortHax 3 жыл бұрын
I always figured the learning styles were idleness, procrastination, and unproductivity
@alibabaintelligence8281
@alibabaintelligence8281 3 жыл бұрын
what the hell you are the least one i expected here
@khaucan5068
@khaucan5068 3 жыл бұрын
So true
@galaxywolf3192
@galaxywolf3192 3 жыл бұрын
What does this even mean?
@thatsgottahurtdude9977
@thatsgottahurtdude9977 3 жыл бұрын
@@galaxywolf3192 I see yours is unproductivity
@soulscanner66
@soulscanner66 3 жыл бұрын
no, that's KZfaq watching styles
@themobleys
@themobleys 8 ай бұрын
Not to mention the role that operant and classical conditioning plays in our learning and development.
@cleanestelf8976
@cleanestelf8976 2 ай бұрын
"But before you take an online quiz" stops while opening new tab
@theshadow9238
@theshadow9238 3 жыл бұрын
“What kind of learner are you?” “I don’t”
@Thejas_Gatty
@Thejas_Gatty 3 жыл бұрын
BRUH
@normalweirdoboy3507
@normalweirdoboy3507 3 жыл бұрын
XD
@usermanager8942
@usermanager8942 3 жыл бұрын
chad
@thetruthserum2816
@thetruthserum2816 3 жыл бұрын
..constant and autodidactic (with the help of KZfaq and Google)
@dahampter3844
@dahampter3844 3 жыл бұрын
@Naughty Spicy Editz i agree
@JimmyB388
@JimmyB388 3 жыл бұрын
Being sponsored by Google Search is one of the biggest flexes ive ever seen
@superslimanoniem4712
@superslimanoniem4712 3 жыл бұрын
Seems like the duck is trying to overtake Google lol
@Milesco
@Milesco 3 жыл бұрын
It's a good thing that Google sponsored this video, because otherwise I never would've known that Google existed.
@valet1482
@valet1482 3 жыл бұрын
Actually why would google sponsor a video when nobody doesn’t use google
@taylorleeforcongress8470
@taylorleeforcongress8470 3 жыл бұрын
Just remember scientists are just as easy to buy as politicians.
@careymxsmith-thomas8134
@careymxsmith-thomas8134 3 жыл бұрын
@@taylorleeforcongress8470 well said! 💯
@SumitpragnyaNayak
@SumitpragnyaNayak 6 ай бұрын
I learn through “procrastination” Usually I'm a lazy person
@theresaivy7045
@theresaivy7045 6 ай бұрын
I've noticed that for me it depends on what I'm learning. For instance with science or math based subjects I seem to retain and analyze more information by visualizing and history or origin based subjects, I seem to retain and analyze information by reading. Here's the thing, most of my learning I've done alone, meaning self-taught. The advantage of being self-taught is I learn at a pace that suits me and I can readily change up the way I'm digesting information. The disadvantage is I have a tendency to not invest too much time and effort in subjects I care little or not at all. Informative video.
@fredbarnes196
@fredbarnes196 Жыл бұрын
This is why self learning is much more powerful. If you are motivated to figure something out, you will learn more by investigating on your own terms than sitting in a room bored with your mind wandering trying to abosrb a topic you didn’t know you were interested in
@artemaung5274
@artemaung5274 Жыл бұрын
Yes. Especially today with KZfaq, Khan Academy, and many other online ways to learn which was barely possible 10 years ago and not really possible 20 years ago. But also motivation eventually burns out, at least for some parts of what you want to learn and you will need to create artificial deadlines to accomplish anything - aka SMART goals. Khan academy structures learning in such a way that you can stick to the plan for a long time, without the need for additional motivation or structure. But google search, youtube and other raw sources - you have to create your own structure and deadlines. Like right now I'm supposed to work on my 3D modelling project with no deadline and I'm instead stretching my breakfast time with KZfaq lol
@JuanThaSilva
@JuanThaSilva Жыл бұрын
@@artemaung5274 The motivation burnout is relatable. But when you run out of motivation, don't panic. It's like struggling to get out of quick sand. You have a lifetime left before you give up on everything.
@fuglbird
@fuglbird Жыл бұрын
Yes. Especially with books.
@nAna36628
@nAna36628 11 ай бұрын
Abosrb ugh*
@pechaa
@pechaa 11 ай бұрын
This is the main principle behind unschooling.
@owllegs5889
@owllegs5889 3 жыл бұрын
Teacher in training: I took a class that argued that learning styles dont exist--people are better equipped to learn when they are given materials that keep their attention and engagement, and when new information is built upon and connected to prior information.
@Petrvsco
@Petrvsco 3 жыл бұрын
Since you are a teacher in training: is that the common view these days? (that learning styles is a myth). The concept seems to be so common that I presume the change in perspective is somehow new. Could you comment on that? Cheers.
@MinesAGuinness
@MinesAGuinness 3 жыл бұрын
@@Petrvsco Yes: it's been the common view for at least 20 years. It simply takes popular science and the public that long to catch up and realise.
@Vader930
@Vader930 3 жыл бұрын
Same (15 years ago), but then two years ago I was working on my masters and the professor assigned work on matching learning styles (I wrote a paper debunking it with plenty of sources and discussing the use of multiple modes and matching mode to content. I failed the assignment.)
@kdasberg
@kdasberg 3 жыл бұрын
I recently finished my education degree )~3 years ago) and would say that this is a fairly common view. However I also believe that the different “learning styles” help me categorize my teaching and help me think about teaching in different ways.
@kzeriar25
@kzeriar25 3 жыл бұрын
i was expecting a punchline lmao
@bogusawwierzynski2789
@bogusawwierzynski2789 4 ай бұрын
For the last 20 years I have been convinced the learning styles theory doesn`t make sense and I thought I was the only one. Thank you for your video. Now I know I am not alone.
@kinkyplunk
@kinkyplunk 6 ай бұрын
I often have to write things in longhand. When I was revising for a stats exam at university, I wrote out instructions, sometimes paragraphs long, to help me understand and remember formulae. Others would just read and re-read text books which seemed insane to me.
@FlamingCockatiel
@FlamingCockatiel 5 ай бұрын
They had a phrase in ancient Rome for that: Qui scribit, bis discit. He who writes learns twice.
@iafozzac
@iafozzac 3 жыл бұрын
Google: Derek, take this money Derek: do you mean you're sponsoring my video? Google: yeah, sure, talk about the search engine or something
@TheNethIafin
@TheNethIafin 3 жыл бұрын
it's to distract attention from how ad polluted the search results became
@firingallcylinders2949
@firingallcylinders2949 3 жыл бұрын
DuckDuckGo is superior anyways.
@humphreybumblecuck5151
@humphreybumblecuck5151 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheNethIafin And the doctored search results and censorship
@Milesco
@Milesco 3 жыл бұрын
It's a good thing that Google Search sponsored this video, because otherwise I never would've known that Google existed or that it was associated with some sort of search engine.
@VikramDoddi
@VikramDoddi 3 жыл бұрын
@@marknefedov I liked Brave until I read about their homophobic anti-vaccine CEO. Granted the CEO represents the company, but not every employee within that company. Brave is a good browser though.
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