Vibrotactile Gloves

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Parkinsons Disease Vibration Therapy Device

Parkinsons Disease Vibration Therapy Device

Жыл бұрын

Video shows concept and construction of Vibrotactile gloves using the PD Buzzboard controller and "fingers".

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@koropatwa
@koropatwa Жыл бұрын
Thank you Tim for this informative and helpful video! - Peter in Toronto
@wendyeckstein8240
@wendyeckstein8240 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for taking the time to share your knowledge. I have been following the Vibrotactile Coordinated Reset work of Dr. Peter Tass for about eight months. The Gloves are my hope to avoid worsening symptoms and the DBS discussion. You are greatly appreciated!
@ellenquintero6
@ellenquintero6 Жыл бұрын
If I wanted to hire someone to build the gloves for me would that b electrician?
@ellenquintero6
@ellenquintero6 Жыл бұрын
Do u have electrician type background?
@pdvibrationtherapy
@pdvibrationtherapy Жыл бұрын
@@ellenquintero6 My background is actually as a software developer and systems engineer. I dabbled with Arduino a few years ago to automate a greenhouse.
@ellenquintero6
@ellenquintero6 9 ай бұрын
Do u think unilateral stim could work ? Just do one hand?
@pdvibrationtherapy
@pdvibrationtherapy 9 ай бұрын
@@ellenquintero6 in a recent presentation, Dr Tass specifically referenced unilateral simulation. His comment was that the DBS experiments were unilateral, so one glove ought to work. That being said, my wife tried it for a week and I saw some regression of her condition so we stopped.
@22zizi22
@22zizi22 Жыл бұрын
I would love to hear/see the results on the symptoms in a person with Parkinson’s!
@JaniceLambey
@JaniceLambey 10 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for doing the videos! What type of power supply are you using? Thanks!!
@pdvibrationtherapy
@pdvibrationtherapy 10 ай бұрын
I use an external battery that is designed to charge your cell phone. It should be a 5 volt device with 2 Amps of output.
@user-pu4to3im4t
@user-pu4to3im4t 11 ай бұрын
I have noticed that even when I start the left and right Nano from the same power source, at exactly the same time, after about six minutes they begin to run out of synchronization. The pause lights no longer match. I am wondering if it impacts efficacy?
@davidblowe1341
@davidblowe1341 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for all of your videos. I would like to build the archery glove version using the nano microcontroller. Can you provide the part list? you state in your video that you will download the part list to google drive? Not understanding
@pdvibrationtherapy
@pdvibrationtherapy 10 ай бұрын
I started using a Google drive and migrated to Github as many had issues accessing the drive. You can find the parts list at github.com/pdbuzzboard/pdbuzzboard . Check out the readme
@allyciapaul
@allyciapaul Жыл бұрын
Excellent work! Can you please specify the differences in the Arduino/motor boards you are using here compared your previous bulkier versions? Thank you!
@pdvibrationtherapy
@pdvibrationtherapy Жыл бұрын
I started using the motors from Amazon which spin at 12,000 rpm and moved to the Vibronics motors that spin at 15,000. A 15,000 rpm motor generates 250hz which is what is specified in the Tass documentation. He has since stated that the frequency is less important. I have found that the Vibronics motors are more reliable than the less expensive Amazon version. The Stanford gloves are using actuators which are a different technology (closer to an audio speaker than a spinning motor). I followed this path as the ERM (eccentric rotating mass) use much simpler electronics to drive them.
@trainer9948
@trainer9948 Ай бұрын
do you have information on the actuators used by Tass?
@ellenquintero6
@ellenquintero6 10 ай бұрын
I also noticed right and left hand not in sync even tho I turn them on at exact same time - do u think it important that hands r in sync?
@ellenquintero6
@ellenquintero6 8 ай бұрын
I tried unilateral it failed- also when I use two controllers the two hands don’t sync exactly and my feeling is I react better when I manage to get then perfectly synced which is hard . If I use my hand I fall out of sync
@parkinsons-oc
@parkinsons-oc Жыл бұрын
So do I understand that she is wearing them 2x per day for one hour each and getting positive results? Did she start at 2 hours 2x per day? How long before she saw a change? Thank you!
@pdvibrationtherapy
@pdvibrationtherapy Жыл бұрын
Correct that she is 2 times by 1 hour. This is driven purely by schedule. It took about a week before we saw substantial changes. Your mileage may vary...
@kevincaress4582
@kevincaress4582 Жыл бұрын
I’ve got a question re: the name of the program loaded from Dr.Tass’s programs. Is it Random 167, or 167?
@pdvibrationtherapy
@pdvibrationtherapy Жыл бұрын
The answer is both. One paper shows three patterns, an A, B and C. It claims efficacy for A and B and states that C does not work. 167 is written to pattern A. A later paper references randomness as providing efficacy, thus the random. The other "variable" is the synchronous or asynchronous stimulation of the hands (right and left together or independently). The micro controller functions asynchronously (each hand independent). The motorshield solution delivers vibration synchronously (same fingers on both hands at the same time). I am doing final testing on a B pattern that I will post as another option. Stanford provides different software loads for their patients throughout the evaluation process to see which provides the best result. Final note, if you have built gloves and want to try synchronous, load the 167 (or any repeating pattern) in both devices and connect them both to the same battery and switch (similar to the wiring of the board for the Arduino and the motorshield power) and they will run synchronously. In summary, both follow a Tass pattern. Your PD partner may get better results from one or the other.
@garrettprintz5253
@garrettprintz5253 11 ай бұрын
Good day ! My fiancee' has created the Archery PD Gloves for her boss. Used the Digikey 15k motors, using the Arduino NANO controller. When I opened the Arduino IDE, the NANO shows up in the drop-down as COM7. I had to select Arduino Nano and associate it to COM7. I uploaded the VibroTherapy_3V_167.ino sketch to the Nano. When we plug the gloves in, the vibration pattern sounds correct with the pause, but the intensity is way diluted compared to the PD buzzboard with the Adrduino Uno. Has anybody had success creating the gloves using the Arduino Nano vs. the off-brand controller ? Any help is greatly appreciated - thanks !
@pdvibrationtherapy
@pdvibrationtherapy 11 ай бұрын
I have not built from a "real" Arduino Nano, but will order one and let you know my results. Do you have access to a multimeter? Did you happen to build the vibration sensor?
@manasikashyap
@manasikashyap 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing this!! How has your wife responded to the stimulation? She’s very lucky to have you 🙂
@pdvibrationtherapy
@pdvibrationtherapy 4 ай бұрын
We are more than a year in and she continues to do very well. We reduced her meds early on and she remains steady.
@manasikashyap
@manasikashyap 4 ай бұрын
@@pdvibrationtherapy that’s amazing! You helped her fight back a cruel disease. It must be wonderful to see the symptoms retreat!
@jeremymorgan9582
@jeremymorgan9582 Ай бұрын
Can you make these for this that are not tech savvy?
@pdvibrationtherapy
@pdvibrationtherapy Ай бұрын
I am not currently making gloves for others. Any high school on community college with a robotics or electronics program can easily assemble this. We have had a number of non-techies follow the videos and successfully build. Reach out via e-mail if you need any help.
@AndrewBrogan-gf2uf
@AndrewBrogan-gf2uf Ай бұрын
Hi firstly thanks for sharing all your good work . I have a partner who was diagnosed PD around 4years ago and want to make her some gloves . I have a friend that will help how has electronics expertise . I have got the parts list from GitHub but would like the Stanford’s part list if possible , to cross reference the two and see if we can get the design any closer to the Stanford glove . If we can make any advances we’ll gladly pass any information we learn back to you to share with the community.
@pdvibrationtherapy
@pdvibrationtherapy Ай бұрын
The closest I believe you are going to get to the Stanford parts list will be in the supplementary material which you can find here: file:///C:/Users/TIMCAH~1/AppData/Local/Temp/MicrosoftEdgeDownloads/796bf615-6535-4c1c-a7d2-9ac5428faf06/Data%20Sheet%201.pdf This opens a dialogue on ERM vs LRA vs Actuator technology that gets pretty complicated pretty fast.
@AndrewBrogan-gf2uf
@AndrewBrogan-gf2uf Ай бұрын
Thank you for your fast reply. There’s no promise my friends knowledge can help and I will definitely be making yours if it doesn’t . My partner is very excited to try them. But I thought it might be helpful to run it past my friend first, as any advances will be an advantage to everyone. Peace and love Andy
@AndrewBrogan-gf2uf
@AndrewBrogan-gf2uf Ай бұрын
Thank you for your fast reply. There’s no promise my friends knowledge can help and I will definitely be making yours if it doesn’t . My partner is very excited to try them. But I thought it might be helpful to run it past my friend first, as any advances will be an advantage to everyone. Peace and love Andy
@jackiedevries2157
@jackiedevries2157 Жыл бұрын
So how does the parts list change for the glove version?
@carolcahall9247
@carolcahall9247 Жыл бұрын
I am working on an updated parts list. If you are going with the buzzboard controller and cables, you will need a different case for the Arduino, cables and no board (plus the glove materials). If you are going with the microcontroller version, the Arduino and case are different. The fingers for the board are the same as the fingers for the microcontroller version. I started with the board to see if this was going to work for her. I didn't want to 1) delay getting her on the board and 2) invest in building the gloves only to find out that they don't work.
@anthonylawlor2904
@anthonylawlor2904 Жыл бұрын
@@carolcahall9247 I completed assembling my Buzz Board yesterday and have begun using it. Is there anything you have learned in using these devices that might help us benefit from using them?... How long did you use the Buzz Board before you noticed benefits? What benefits did you notice? Thank you.
@garrettprintz5253
@garrettprintz5253 Жыл бұрын
@@anthonylawlor2904 - Hi - my fiancé built my buzzboard for me a few weeks ago … I have used the buzzboard 2 hours daily - 1 hr AM and 1 hr PM … to give more background- diagnoses 2017 - 56 years old (early onset) - on RYTARY medication - I felt a difference after 2-3 days - I am standing up out of a seating position much easier - normally my 1st step after standing is deliberate- that 1st step is now easier to take - and overall less clumsy… these are subtle differences … I will post further updates …
@ellenquintero6
@ellenquintero6 Жыл бұрын
Where do u get parts list pls
@ellenquintero6
@ellenquintero6 Жыл бұрын
@@carolcahall9247 I want to build the glove with the finger cots can u tell me which arduino and case to get ? Also any other parts different from buzzboard list ? I’m desperate for relief but I know I need gloves my hand deformity won’t allow use of buzzboarx
@ellenquintero6
@ellenquintero6 Жыл бұрын
where is shopping list of components please
@pdvibrationtherapy
@pdvibrationtherapy Жыл бұрын
On the GitHub site under readme. GitHub.com/pdbuzzboard/pdbuzzboard
@ellenquintero6
@ellenquintero6 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so very much I want to make gloves with finger cots as I can’t use the other two formats due to hand deformity from pd do you can parts list? You’re very kind to do this thank you sooo much
@ellenquintero6
@ellenquintero6 Жыл бұрын
But I don’t c list for gloves with finger cots r components listed there - thank you soo much !
@pdvibrationtherapy
@pdvibrationtherapy Жыл бұрын
@@ellenquintero6 the finger cots use the exact same list with the exception of the glove itself. I have used these finger cots: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08PV3XYCL/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
@ellenquintero6
@ellenquintero6 Жыл бұрын
@@pdvibrationtherapy thank you
@Daissweetest
@Daissweetest 10 ай бұрын
AITRIP for Arduino Nano V3.0, Nano Board CH340/ATmega328P with USB Cable, Compatible with Arduino Nano V3.0 (Nano x 3 With1 Cable) AITRIP for Arduino Nano V3.0, Nano Board CH340/ATmega328P with USB Cable, Compatible with Arduino Nano V3.0 (Nano x 3 With1 Cable)AITRIP for Arduino Nano V3.0, Nano Board CH340/ATmega328P with USB Cable, Compatible with Arduino Nano V3.0 (Nano x These electronic parts are the same as the one you’re using , they come with USB,just different company selling them, they will work? Thank you for your work
@pdvibrationtherapy
@pdvibrationtherapy 10 ай бұрын
They should work. The code is written with the standard Nano code set
@Daissweetest
@Daissweetest 10 ай бұрын
Which is better for results gloves with single controller or two? Thank you
@pdvibrationtherapy
@pdvibrationtherapy 10 ай бұрын
The Tass documentation speaks directly to having both hands stimulated together or operating separately. My wife broke her foot at the beginning of summer (on a driving range of all places). That level of injury tends to really amp up Parkinson's symptoms (I hear). I noticed that she wasn't getting as strong of an impact from the gloves as she had prior to the injury. (I "measure" her results by how quickly her tremor disappears when on the device when she is having a bad day). I moved her back to the board (which stimulates both hands exactly together) and her tremor vanished within the usual 15-20 minutes. Based upon this, I have been updating the motor shield glove design (case and wiring only). Separately, I have been in contact with a woman that has been involved in a trial of the gloves from the company that originally made them for Tass. (I think they may have had a falling out). The gloves stimulated each hand independently but paused together. She got no effect. This is far from statistically valid information, but I am focusing my build efforts on the single controller gloves at this point. I am working on an update to allow the dual controller gloves to remain more precisely in sync, but that is a work in progress. Hope this helps.@@Daissweetest
@Daissweetest
@Daissweetest 10 ай бұрын
@@pdvibrationtherapy wonderful information on the last bit, I hope your wife has recovered well, it’s no fun having PD and hurt it makes our tremors worse, thank you so much
@Daissweetest
@Daissweetest 10 ай бұрын
@@pdvibrationtherapy one more thing someone had mentioned on the other glove DIY KZfaq channel, that your board was mirrored, but not the gloves.
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