John Darnielle Reveals He Doesn't Like The Kinks (HBO)

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6 жыл бұрын

In this installment of Music Corner, The Mountain Goats' John Darnielle reviews "Hunger" by Florence + the Machine, "Just a Fool" by Jim James, "Humility (feat. George Benson)" by Gorillaz, "Our country" by Ray Davies.
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@frarfarf
@frarfarf 6 жыл бұрын
"milkin' the major sevens and going for a more loping vibe, willing to sort of hang out with the groove a little" I have no fucking clue what you're on about John but I love you
@eliaslanger2011
@eliaslanger2011 6 жыл бұрын
This man is a national treasure. Please give us more.
@user-cu6ii3gv1x
@user-cu6ii3gv1x 6 жыл бұрын
"good luck to all bands" 🤣
@isaacrobinson4759
@isaacrobinson4759 4 жыл бұрын
"That's rad as anything!" Never change, John
@mikehalwa7201
@mikehalwa7201 6 жыл бұрын
I love that his last sentence is a line from Elvis Costello's song Mystery Dance. "I'm still mystified I cant do it anymore and I'm not satisfied."
@silentp9933
@silentp9933 Жыл бұрын
HA! I caught that too and started singing along! Great tune from a classic album! “My Aim is True” ❤️
@matthillfromcollege4109
@matthillfromcollege4109 5 жыл бұрын
I love the last shot in all of these where he puts the headphones on and his brain turns off
@uptheroots6248
@uptheroots6248 Жыл бұрын
I love John's commitment to the maj 7 lol
@poppyyates1250
@poppyyates1250 6 жыл бұрын
I love how he's always bare foot 😂😂
@travismathis3279
@travismathis3279 6 жыл бұрын
Yo I asked for you to do more of this before...more please!
@Solid_Brownies
@Solid_Brownies 6 жыл бұрын
The Kinks forever!
@DeadWhiteButterflies
@DeadWhiteButterflies 6 жыл бұрын
It's okay John. People still give me shit for not liking the Foo Fighters.
@brianwarner308
@brianwarner308 6 жыл бұрын
don't like them either!
@johns.7609
@johns.7609 6 жыл бұрын
Oliver Cant agree there. Not a bad band but not great.
@TheErikjsm
@TheErikjsm 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah not for me that band
@OneAfter-wb9gq
@OneAfter-wb9gq 6 жыл бұрын
Difference being the kinks are actually good
@lynnpehrson8826
@lynnpehrson8826 4 жыл бұрын
Don't compare foo fighters to the kinks
@scottm3451
@scottm3451 6 жыл бұрын
These are the best Music Corner segments yet. Keep him on or bring him back (and never bring Weezer on again).
@bog_grrrl
@bog_grrrl 6 жыл бұрын
I love John Darnielle but wow surprised he doesn't like the kinks. I suppose we all have our flaws.
@dianisea-hh4uf
@dianisea-hh4uf 6 жыл бұрын
I keep thinking his foot is a third hand
@intermedianguitarsguild4482
@intermedianguitarsguild4482 6 жыл бұрын
I love the mountain goats
@Odd_Combo
@Odd_Combo 2 жыл бұрын
This dude is a national underground treasure.
@mattrobert5
@mattrobert5 6 жыл бұрын
If you don't like the kinks you havn't listened to the kinks are the village green preservation society. That album is a god damn hidden gem and a masterpiece.
@wongelfski4681
@wongelfski4681 6 жыл бұрын
Matt Roberts No it’s not
@mattrobert5
@mattrobert5 6 жыл бұрын
Wong Elfski yes it is
@imsoquirky8370
@imsoquirky8370 Жыл бұрын
@@mattrobert5 i will be listening to this album to be the deciding vote on if it’s good or not, i’ll be back
@bluebellbeatnik4945
@bluebellbeatnik4945 11 ай бұрын
it's great but he's a yank
@Michael-tk2ds
@Michael-tk2ds 6 жыл бұрын
for god sake keep doing these
@MrMallard19
@MrMallard19 6 жыл бұрын
Welp, now I know John Darnielle's opinion on Humility. I got everything I ever wanted out of this video.
@FungusMossGnosis
@FungusMossGnosis 6 жыл бұрын
I like Darnielle's music, and style, he's a very good songwriter. That said, Ray Davies is a master songwriter (albeit inconsistent). I can see why all kinds of people could dislike either of them. It's a wide world with many particular experiences and tastes.
@mola55e5
@mola55e5 6 жыл бұрын
I love this man
@nunyabidness4655
@nunyabidness4655 6 жыл бұрын
Me too. Moral Orel introduced me to The Mountain Goats years ago. I finally got to see them last year. I met John after the show too. Awesome show, awesome guy!
@icomefromb5403
@icomefromb5403 6 жыл бұрын
THERE ARE MORE OF THESE!!!!!!!!!!! WOOOOOOOOOOOO
@grantm3332
@grantm3332 6 жыл бұрын
Do you think he's heard of the Mountain Goats? He should review them.
@Ryan-fs2xj
@Ryan-fs2xj 6 жыл бұрын
how do u hate the kinks?
@matthewcorreia1721
@matthewcorreia1721 6 жыл бұрын
I really like them, but they are a bit weird. This guy seems to know his music and The Kinks use odd song structures that can be almost off-putting to some people. Very good imo though.
@FungusMossGnosis
@FungusMossGnosis 6 жыл бұрын
At the end of the day, all taste is given to be subjective and reactionary and peculiar. I've encounter plenty of people who Know Their Music yet unaccountably "hate" The Beatles, or The Pixies, mainly to knock them down several pegs over perceived Overratedness. It's a pose, in most cases. I'm not going to insult Johnny D's reasoning for disliking The Kinks -- a band that had more than its fair share of genius songs, and way more than The Beatles, I'd subjectively add -- although the series does bare the curious quality of an off-the-cuff neophyte. That's part of its appeal - zero pretension, pity, straight from the gut opinions.
@dangshnizzle6929
@dangshnizzle6929 5 жыл бұрын
He didn't say he hates them.....
@FreyaEinde
@FreyaEinde 4 жыл бұрын
I get it. If you like structure or lyrical coherence I can see how they might grind your gears. As for me I don’t care about structure if they can do that thing where it reaches into your flow state, which the kinks always does for me.
@zopilote_4000
@zopilote_4000 6 жыл бұрын
his feet are like porcelain smooth lol
@ryanroach8001
@ryanroach8001 6 жыл бұрын
I think is my favourite channel on KZfaq
@Jeremyramone
@Jeremyramone 6 жыл бұрын
Animal farm by the kinks is a real toe tapper, they have more snappy numbers too,,
@TheCondorjc
@TheCondorjc 9 ай бұрын
It’s ok to not like ANY band. It’s just music, people. A way of life for some but for the majority, it’s just music.
@danielblack4815
@danielblack4815 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah but why he got no socks on tho
@josepharte
@josepharte 4 жыл бұрын
John not liking F+M is a sad blow to me. :(
@nancyspungen556
@nancyspungen556 6 жыл бұрын
Lowkey John can dislike the Kinks all he wants and I'll still stan TMG to death - but to doubt Florence is pure sacrilege, my man.
@messermoreaux1139
@messermoreaux1139 6 жыл бұрын
Nancy Spungen the kinks are absolute legends and changed music as we know it. I’d say it’s a far more egregious offense to dislike them when Florence and the machine is as commercialized and radio friendly as you can be
@nancyspungen556
@nancyspungen556 6 жыл бұрын
I think that there's a big difference between not liking a band and not respecting their contribution to music. You can't do anything about your taste, and if you don't like something you can't force yourself to like it. My problem wasn't with the fact that he didn't like Florence's song (and you're completely entitled to your opinion about her music, even if I don't entirely agree lol), it was that he said it sounded disingenuous (more or less). Besides that whole mess and this novel I just wrote, I didn't mean my initial comment to be serious in any way. I was just taking the piss over my favorite musician criticizing my second favorite musician. bc I'm petty af
@thekitsunewavefunctionband7168
@thekitsunewavefunctionband7168 6 жыл бұрын
She sounds disingenuous to me, theres not much soul in her music, shes sort of an indie Celine Dion. But yeah, its still fine to like her music its just music after all.
@ItsSomeDeadGuy
@ItsSomeDeadGuy 6 жыл бұрын
Messer Moreaux How are The Kinks not commercialized?! Even moreso than Florence, honestly.
@nothinglikeasongbird
@nothinglikeasongbird 2 жыл бұрын
Nice Elvis Costello reference
@monty5264
@monty5264 2 жыл бұрын
this just popped up in my feed 3 years late, do they not wear shoes on this show? or was it a personal choice by john? i can’t even look at the screen
@howtomeetwomen-
@howtomeetwomen- 3 жыл бұрын
more plz
@o_o-vu1rs
@o_o-vu1rs 9 ай бұрын
i think i get what he means but it's funny cause i've used mg songs as motivational tools a lot
@redder_
@redder_ 24 күн бұрын
I would love a Damon Albarn and John Darnielle crossover song
@thephantomoftheparadise5666
@thephantomoftheparadise5666 5 жыл бұрын
What I want to know is who hurt you?
@artsfols
@artsfols 5 жыл бұрын
You clearly have never heard 'Situation Vacant' from the 'Something Else' album (by the Kinks). But it's okay not to like the Kinks. Far too many people are liking the Kinks today.
@jaybee831
@jaybee831 3 жыл бұрын
Hey John, start with "Face to Face". It might change your mind.
@kitaallen966
@kitaallen966 5 жыл бұрын
Was it Radiohead? Did you compare them to Coldplay?
@ptolemystoned
@ptolemystoned 11 ай бұрын
Why you not wearing shoes, John?
@fightington
@fightington 3 жыл бұрын
Who cut these into 2 min things!!!!
@TheNeverposts
@TheNeverposts 6 жыл бұрын
I used to love The Kinks... then I heard 'Black Messiah'. That's when I took a closer look at 'Arthur'... and now here we are
@daffyduck4674
@daffyduck4674 3 ай бұрын
I doubt you’d judge JD by the ideas his characters express in his songs, so why assume that the narrator of Black Messiah is RD or expressing RD own views? The entirety of Arthur is from a character’s perspective, based on RD’s Brother in Law. It’s a fools game trying tie these kinds of writers to their lyrics given they deliberately write from multiple perspectives.
@etamommy
@etamommy Жыл бұрын
Well hate you Jon, for saying you don’t like the kinks but love you for in the very same sentence quoting Elvis Costello’s Mystery Dance off his first album! Now I’M mystified !
@MissChaoticKitty
@MissChaoticKitty 6 жыл бұрын
IM THE LONELY TWIN THE LEFT HAND
@GildedVoice
@GildedVoice 6 жыл бұрын
These videos are 1000% better than anything Anthony Fantano has ever put out
@GildedVoice
@GildedVoice 6 жыл бұрын
Galt's Gooch he's not a good critic and a big edge lord.
@GildedVoice
@GildedVoice 6 жыл бұрын
Because he's bad at criticism. When he likes an album he can find really solid reason as to why he likes it. But when. He dislikes this he has to grasp at straws to articulate what he doesn't like and says things that are flat out wrong. Anyway I was originally just making a joke. Why are you so ready to call a stranger an idiot to defend a bald internet celebrity?
@GildedVoice
@GildedVoice 6 жыл бұрын
nope, i've watched a lot of his videos. at one point i considered myself a fan of his. at some point i decided he was a snob and i don't care about what he thinks very much
@rileyaltes6479
@rileyaltes6479 5 жыл бұрын
FACTS 🗣️
@fahimtajwar1989
@fahimtajwar1989 6 жыл бұрын
Mountain roaaaaads take me hooome to the Goooaats wheere I belong loose Virginity Mountain Mama Mountain roads to the goats.
@periodicallychaotic5449
@periodicallychaotic5449 5 жыл бұрын
I love the mountain goats but why do you never have shoes on in these videoes? Did I miss something?
@myanimation8987
@myanimation8987 5 жыл бұрын
Mr Goats why is your foot out? this is scandalous
@chrisoleson9570
@chrisoleson9570 5 жыл бұрын
How come the show couldn't afford socks for JD?
@poke347
@poke347 6 жыл бұрын
love the kinks but that new Ray Davies song is shiiiiiiiiiiiIIIIIIIIiiiiiiiitt!
@FungusMossGnosis
@FungusMossGnosis 6 жыл бұрын
I'd like to thank VICE News for putting the hot-take-I-didn't-know-I-would-pay-to-unhear right in the video title. My curiosity to hear it all out gives me dismay, if no loss of respect at Darnielle's opinioneering. We all hear things differently. It just happens Darnielle hears The Kinks flat out wrong. Maybe The Kinks remind him of unhappy memories in his life, or maybe the devil on his right shoulder is shouting to loud to hear the genius of the brothers Davies. At any rate, The Kinks > any rock band since.
@Nintendodo64
@Nintendodo64 6 жыл бұрын
John Darnielle is a God
@chip9649
@chip9649 6 жыл бұрын
You hate the Kinks!!!!!!
@bluebellbeatnik4945
@bluebellbeatnik4945 11 ай бұрын
You have to be English or British even to appreciate The Kinks. I'm glad I was born here and not stateside.
@shikileaks
@shikileaks 6 жыл бұрын
wow I really thought that this was gonna be about something else
@Christopher-md7tf
@Christopher-md7tf 4 жыл бұрын
Seems like cool guy, but I don't care for his bare foot at all
@ilikespacedinosaurs
@ilikespacedinosaurs 6 жыл бұрын
please put on a sock
@mumblerocks77
@mumblerocks77 6 жыл бұрын
please come to peace with feet. You (probably) have then. He has them. No reason to get weirded by them.
@ilikespacedinosaurs
@ilikespacedinosaurs 6 жыл бұрын
mumblerocks77 the headphones touched his feet. He touched his feet and then touched the headphones. Someone else has to use those headphones after him. It's gross.
@mumblerocks77
@mumblerocks77 6 жыл бұрын
Haha what makes his feet so much dirtier than any other part of his body? Do you think his ears are sterilized are something?
@brianwarner308
@brianwarner308 6 жыл бұрын
probably not….however i doubt he walks on his ears...
@ilikespacedinosaurs
@ilikespacedinosaurs 6 жыл бұрын
mumblerocks77 he walks with his feet, they're all sweaty and have touched the ground, which is dirty. How is this even a question? Did you never learn hygiene as a child? Do you eat with your feet?
@gluemann01
@gluemann01 11 ай бұрын
PUT THE DOGS AWAY WHAT A JUMPSCARE
@williamfox2149
@williamfox2149 5 жыл бұрын
Did he ask to remove his shoes and socks? Does he need this to properly listen?
@JoGrant-dq8ob
@JoGrant-dq8ob Жыл бұрын
John has beautiful feet, leave him alone. Imo he should show them nore often.
@Defferleffer
@Defferleffer 6 жыл бұрын
I’m a simple man. I see Gorillaz, I like.
@urmadrelastnite
@urmadrelastnite 6 жыл бұрын
Too bad their two recent albums suck
@Defferleffer
@Defferleffer 6 жыл бұрын
Dan Gorry you know what mate...... you’re absolutely RIGHT they havn’t released any good songs since Plastic Beach. Demon Dayz and the self titled will forever be the BEST.
@smhdpt12
@smhdpt12 6 жыл бұрын
You're an unoriginal man. You say a phrase that has been said millions of times before, you need to stop.
@Defferleffer
@Defferleffer 6 жыл бұрын
scottdpt12 Too bad your opinion is invalid to me :(
@FungusMossGnosis
@FungusMossGnosis 6 жыл бұрын
All Kongs Meme Are Belong To Us.
@michaelsoftinc
@michaelsoftinc 6 жыл бұрын
I love the mountain goats but it’s amazing how much I disagree with everything he just said.
@k_a_y_l_e_e
@k_a_y_l_e_e 6 жыл бұрын
i've found that musicians tend to have questionable taste in music (at best). DJs/producers are the people to ask about this type of stuff imo.
@dangshnizzle6929
@dangshnizzle6929 4 жыл бұрын
Any specifics? Nothing particularly out there that I heard from hik
@halleykunen1088
@halleykunen1088 6 жыл бұрын
Love what he said about Florence.. so overrated as a lyricist (and musician!)
@sillygoose2347
@sillygoose2347 Жыл бұрын
Put those dogs away
@sratus
@sratus 6 жыл бұрын
Getting major dork vibes
@MsFuzzipoo
@MsFuzzipoo 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a big fan of The Mountain Goats, and something I love about John Darnielle is how incredibly, unabashedly dorky he can be. Occasionally onstage but especially in his personal life re: his interests- Magic the Gathering, D&D, reading dense academic books about history for fun are a few. I'm good with anyone who's a dork or nerd and doesn't give a damn what anyone else thinks (my partner of 13 years definitely fits the description perfectly).
@amberbrown7918
@amberbrown7918 6 жыл бұрын
Foot
@TheAlfieobanz
@TheAlfieobanz 6 жыл бұрын
barefoot? wtf
@eoghanolf
@eoghanolf 6 жыл бұрын
TheAlfieobanz he does almost every gig barefoot. :) it's quite free in my opinion!
@aarongodwin6302
@aarongodwin6302 6 жыл бұрын
people have feet btw
@ShinyZETER
@ShinyZETER 6 жыл бұрын
He's probably just trying to be "lol quirky".
@MsFuzzipoo
@MsFuzzipoo 2 жыл бұрын
@@ShinyZETER Eh, not really. He's quirky, dorky, and nerdy but it's all pretty obviously genuine (and I'm not saying quirky/dorky/nerdy is a bad thing). I've been a fan of The Mountain Goats for a while, and John's just... like that 🤷🏻‍♀️.
@nataliemae8516
@nataliemae8516 6 жыл бұрын
it just weird seing a foot exposed and touching, ew John Darnielle
@QuietGuitaristfan
@QuietGuitaristfan 6 жыл бұрын
I really love John darnielle on the mountain goats and everything, he doesn't like The Kinks. He just went down a cool meter in my book.
@bbgg71
@bbgg71 6 жыл бұрын
John Darnielle is 10000x the songwriter Ray Davies is. Fact.
@FungusMossGnosis
@FungusMossGnosis 6 жыл бұрын
False. Darnielle is good. Davies is good and great. We'll see in 50 years whether Darnielle's stuff hold up half as well. I have my doubts.
@bbgg71
@bbgg71 6 жыл бұрын
FungusMossGnosis nah
@FungusMossGnosis
@FungusMossGnosis 6 жыл бұрын
Taste is fickle. Yours might change too.
@bbgg71
@bbgg71 6 жыл бұрын
Agreed, taste is fickle. But it is an objective fact that Darnielle is a better songwriter than Davies. So that's not going to change.
@FungusMossGnosis
@FungusMossGnosis 6 жыл бұрын
As long as we're pulling Facts out of our fundament, let me submit: it's objectively true that Franklin Bruno is not only a better songwriter and musician than Darnielle by a factor of exactly 301424%, Bruno is also literally a better songwriter than Irving Berlin, Kurt Weill, Woody Guthrie, Cole Porter, Hoagy Carmichael, Randy Newman, Townes Van Zandt, Stephen Sondheim, Jerome Kern and Stephen Fucking Foster.
@Graehaus
@Graehaus 6 жыл бұрын
Who? What is this band? He looks like a math teacher.
@TheTapeandscissors
@TheTapeandscissors 6 жыл бұрын
See: This Year, Best Ever Death Metal Band, or No Children.
@spencerkaminsky6943
@spencerkaminsky6943 6 жыл бұрын
Look up The Mountain Goats. Despite being some of the most lyrically genius music ever written, it's not for everyone.
@JohnnySeven
@JohnnySeven 3 жыл бұрын
He looks like Fred the Elephant Boy of Howard Stern show fame.
@RedBloodedAmerica
@RedBloodedAmerica 6 жыл бұрын
This guy looks like a forty-something dad who has recently undergone a mid-life crisis.
@panictryouts
@panictryouts 6 жыл бұрын
He is actually a 50 something dad but probably isnt having a midlife crisis because he is currently a rock star.
@anthonyryan923
@anthonyryan923 6 жыл бұрын
Well, I have never heard of you but I suppose you are someone in the music industry. You obviously are not ‘au fait’ with how to pronounce English surnames; the e in Davies is not sounded i.e.it is pronounced Davis. Should you have problems with the French and Latin references I have made please do not seek guidance from ‘moi’.
@gerrymcq1555
@gerrymcq1555 6 жыл бұрын
Anthony Ryan ...Nobody asked. Also pretty sure John Darnielle studied Latin classics as part of his degree, so I doubt he would ever need to "seek guidance" from you, mate.
@MsFuzzipoo
@MsFuzzipoo 2 жыл бұрын
@@gerrymcq1555 I just find this comment funny (the original, not yours!), considering *so many* people screw up pronouncing John's last name (as "Darn-Yell" instead of "Darn-Neel"). Also considering what you pointed out: John's an incredibly intelligent and educated person, and if he mispronounced one person's name, even a popular person, my feeling is... Meh? He's human.
@brandoa330
@brandoa330 5 жыл бұрын
Put some shoes on bruh. Disgusting
@pepelipep
@pepelipep 6 жыл бұрын
No one likes The Kinks.
@kingboobs20
@kingboobs20 6 жыл бұрын
It's ok, absolutely no one likes The Mountain Goats.
@spencerkaminsky6943
@spencerkaminsky6943 6 жыл бұрын
I mean... that's just not true. Half of these comments are here just to say that he's a god. So, you know, do with that what you will.
@katm6
@katm6 2 жыл бұрын
You're half right. I don't like The Mountain Goats. I love The Mountain Goats.
@dc-si1mv
@dc-si1mv 6 жыл бұрын
Well I don't like him.
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