Then they wonder why the kid who got bullied his whole life just "randomly" shot up the school, definitely not the teachers fault for being unable to stop it before it reached that point and he helps himself.

DARKKISS That is a valid point. Violence is still wrong whoever you do it to. But keep in mind, if that kid is so blatant that he is willing to slap a teacher who is much bigger than him, (even if he doesn't fully comprehend his actions) its very reasonable to think that he could or has already gone after classmates.

Kids who are suspended are often exhibiting severe behavioral problems. How is a teacher suppose to give time out to a kid who refuses to adhere to the rules of timeout? I agree that suspension to a grade schooler is pretty ineffective. Not having to go to school for misbehaving is a Win-Win for a grade schooler. But you need to come up with an effective alternative before simply demonizing the standard and those who practice it.

I ask the same question

time outs don't stop ass whoopings students give teachers. some parents refuse to acknowledge their kids have problems

What kind of "ass-whooping" is a Pre-K student going to dole out to an adult? Unless that teacher was a quadriplegic, a 4-year old won't serve much threat.

TokenBlackman7 meet a bt500 and you'll know

yeah wtf kind of shitty parents does he have and why hasn't the school called child protective services to investigate the family....white/black/asian i don't care if the kid is that messed up at 4 just imagine what the littlefuckingmonster will be like at 10 or 16????

maybe he is bullied. We don't have enough elements to judge.

Stfu, you cant judge..

They have to show the child from a young age that certain behaviors arent tolerated. I worked in a preschool and we NEVER sent a kid home for something minor. It had to be a serious thing. It's our last resort. First we try to discipline the child but if they won't listen we have to call the parents and let them take it from there as they see fit

Fawkes Smith actually he/she can and even voice it, welcome to America.

silvernug When I was in middle school, the students would go to "in house" and many would brag about the people who watched them being nice. They were also allowed to get cafeteria good whenever they wanted, and some would run errands with the teacher. They also got excused from class because of it. It was basically taking a break for the whole day and getting a free grade.

If you had 33 suspensions, then something is wrong with you. It's good to know that academia isn't wasting more resources on you. Not everyone is suitable for a higher education.

The Middle Man if a school gave a 3rd grader 33 suspension, there is something wrong with *them*

That's what an OSS ban basically ensures. Teachers are still going to want to push misbehaving children out of their classroom.

Pyro Zach teachers unions won't allow such forward thinking

What happens when he continue to disrupts the class during teaching which would affect every students ability to learn the material. Not a teacher problem this is a bad parent problem. I wish public schools could kick kids out as easy as private school do.

Probably because parents outside the United States actually raise their children.

FrydaysWithFry THESE ARE BABIES!!! That is not a fucking excuse

I agree the problem is your child hit someone . After the forth time you haven't corrected his behavior . That's a home issue or he need treatment.

yeah that video was short, I wonder why that was? maybe they gone further into investigating the problem and realize the kid came from a dysfunctional family where father beats the mother and kid probably picks up on that. But then again that doesn't make a great story since activism is new hot trend so lets focus on suspension bit even though teachers have hard enough time teaching the normal kids with budget cuts now we deal with kid who probably flings shit in class for the whole week... Jesus

Whole* not while

Leah Patts as long as discipline doesn't mean beat.

julian Baberze That depends on, what you mean by beat. I think we may have different definitions. Im not a parent by the way

well, i'm not an expert but learning from my childhood you get more from honey than vinegar. meaning if you use violence that's what you get, and if you show kindness etc. It all depends on the parent tho. not much a teacher can do unfortunately.

bad parents= that's my philosophy

My mom and my grandparents, kicked my ass. They put a belt to my ass just because I looked at them disrespectful. Lol. (The Lol isn't directed toward you. I appreciate what they did is all) I'm not saying parents should publicly humiliate their children, and even physical discipline, I believe, should have a limit, but I definitely believe that discipline should remain within the family, as long as it's not abusive.

nikada vise I'm sorry for your loss, that must have been very difficult and all the more credit to you for staying level-headed and for defending the vulnerable. What I was referring to was the fact system bans children who are having a hard time. Who knows what they're seeing and experiencing at home and by suspending them the schools aren't helping them, they're just giving up on them. I looked after a lot of troubled and damaged children, but I never gave up on one of them. Most of them just needed someone they could talk to. Before they were in my care a lot of them did have trouble with authority figures and with controlling their temper. But you're right, we had children who were also very gentle and quiet, but sometimes too quiet. Everyone responds differently to these situations, but that doesn't mean that we don't all need help to deal with things like this. The only children I couldn't stand were the ones who were spoiled and entitled brats who lied and deceived and manipulated. But these were never children from underprivileged backgrounds, it was the opposite. They were the ones with wealthy parents who were also entitled. One day a mother dropped off her child and while she was kissing him goodbye, right in front of me, told him "if she does anything to you, you tell me, right honey?" Is this the kind of people you were referring to? Because they're not trashy as such, just horrible people.

Yeah, that 4 year-old had it coming!

Mar it isn't racist but I'm sure if you ask the bitches from Vice they would tell you otherwise.

Mar They should have just called his mom.

this segment makes the claim that the statistics provided indicate black americans overrepresented in suspensions but it lacks evidence to support whether each individual suspension was justified or not.

If you expect all Children to know better than you just simply ignorant about children.

most kids now have no positive male role models so ????? women have raised decent boys into decent men since time began but you have to actually put in the work(and yeah it takes work to raise a decent kid of either sex) otherwise you get these little monsters

+nikada vise I'm going to asume that you are female for the purpose of this response. Feel free to correct me if that's not the case. Black American children now have a 70% chance of being raised by a single mother. Setting aside all moral arguments, being raised in a two parent household is the single biggest factor, by a country mile, in the success of any child, of any ethnicity. At no point in modern human history have children (irrespective of sex) been successfully raised to adulthood in the complete absence of one gender. Stating the following does not suggest that it is impossible for mothers to successfully raise a well adjusted son by themselves, but it is colossally ignorant to ignore the fact that males (just like females) look to their parents as positive role models and to suggest that a mother can teach a son every aspect of what it is to be a good man is frankly laughable. Most young men, failing to identify a male role model at home or in education (where male teachers have been almost entirely excluded by a system that sees them as default sex offender if they dare to express an interest in educating children) look to their peer group for models instead. Do you think gangs spring out of thin air solely on the basis of poverty? Imagine if I suggested that it was a good thing that men should be solely responsible for the raising and education of young women.

Tiffany Stonem how would you do it?

You can't be serious, he hit the teacher. Not to mention, the mother said it was his *third* time being in trouble.

Marc Federico but they aren’t so no not end of story genius

Shawn Hunt +

Yea my parents taught me how to use power tools but yet they still teach shop in school. If kids are not learning from their parents then we should teach it in school. Parents can't teach their kids what they don't know. If they don't know social skills they can't teach them. If they don't have ADHD then they can't teach them. If they don't know about electronics then they can't teach them.

And also it is near Green Bay

even 4 year old Christians already don't fit in with people by the time they grow up this will be even worse separation is the only moral option

do you know what christian schools are? christian kindergartens? ever heard of them and besides that christians are pretty good at getting along with others

Jesus Christus What would Jesus do?

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I had a friend with super religious Christian parents. He got along with his other Christian friends who parents were also Christian. apparently they all bounded by their dislike of their parents. I'm not advocating noticing but maybe if Yu had someone to be miserable with, you'll at least be social.

ELFHUNTER50 ikr?

The best part of this though is that im sure if someone had done this to your kid you would be angry right?

I didn't mean the teacher, I meant the parent! I was more scared of getting in trouble at school because of my parents when I was a kid. Radioactive the best part of this though I am sure is if this kid hit your kid you would be angry right?

EXACTLY. Even though my father was an asshole and a super religious person, i never fucked up in high school and most importantly i never hit my teachers

How would you cure a physically violent child then? I dont see you bringing any ideas to the table, we can talk about how love and hugs will fix it, but murderers and abusers come from somewhere and this little kid going to grow up because he doesn't understand the social hierarchy of power and authority, if there are no repercussion for your actions you are living in a fantasy anarchist world. A physically violent person will understand physical punishment even better because that's what he deals with.

I know right. Look at their terrible economy, world class health-care facilities, and all the people that keep moving to that crappy state because everything is cheaper and there are tons of jobs.

aaron ponton I think he's being sarcastic on the "crapy" bits

Pine-Sol Best Drink Oh Texas doesn't have "world class health care facilities" so was kinda off putting.