My only issue with your video was your pronunciation of “Steiner” as “Stainer”. It’s Sty (like pig sty) + ner (like saying nerd).

Battletech making a real comeback.. I’m a fan through novels and video games from the past. I’m back playing MWO and eventually MW5

As a heavy cavalry 'mech it does well, but again, there are better options that do similar things most of the time. The biggest claim to fame of the Victor is that it ends up being "common enough" that people will be fielding it compared to other specialized options.

I saw one of my Fav BT novel characters next to the Mech he was named after…. I subscribe immediately 🎉

Makes an incredible urban fighter.

The Victor falls in the "it's good enough at what it does" category, which makes it a decent choice... Until something better is available.

It's great as a lighter Highlander, one of the hero ones is awesome I couldn't figure out to do with the basilisk one though

@@nurgle333 lbx 10, medium lasers, 3 srm4, and guardian ecm, and drop he jump jets for heat sinks and armour. It's kinda half way between a gauss and ac20, as it has better range than the ac20 but less than the gauss. The guardian ecm is super nice. Again, i give it to my lancemates. I tried double lbx, and it's good, but not good enough imo. Too much weight for both the guns and all the ammo you chew through limits everything else on the mech.

@@ImperviousSC my OCD can't stand unused hard points even unused jumpjets russle my jimmies a bit

Victors are very good mechs in MW5 for player usage because their primary weapons are arm-mounted, which offers the widest field of fire, while sidestepping the biggest problem of the Atlas and Highlander. On top of that, they get Jump jets, making the Victor the heaviest shock trooper style mech you can field that can actually move faster than the speed of smell. As far as safe and practical A.I. cohort mechs go, they're up there with Battlemasters and Awesomes, though I'd personally replace the AC/20 with an LBX/10 or Gauss Rifle pronto just to bump their effective range up. All that said, they're pretty crap in the tabletop.

The Victor is just that, a situational 'mech that does great when it does but is just average at best in most other situations.

I'm just starting in creating Battletech content, but it seems to be popular enough for me to work hard on it.

I played around things and made a "cheap" Victor C, if needed, I can find it and post it here.

In the end, during the Succession Wars, it was the 'mech you had, so it was good enough. When options become available...

HBS Battletech is responsible for me liking half the mechs I do now. The Blackjack, the Jagermech, the Vindicator. All mechs I originally didn't care for, but came into possession of as a merc leader and grew to adore.

The problem is that with this type of mobility (with the jump jets), it really fits a cavalry role better than a trooper role, in the same family as the two lighter gunslingers, the Clint and the Enforcer. It can be used in that role, but it is not where it would shine.

I really like the 10L ! It's really Vindicator-esque in its do-it-all way.

Going "back in time" to the our Succession War era, it wasn't that bad. Nowadays with all the options, it doesn't do much.

The problem with Battletech is that a lot of people think "customizing mechs on the fly" is something that can be done since all the video games let you do it. Such a massive refit of the 'mech would be almost impossible without a full factory or facility to do it.

@@ProfessorHeyTeeEn Not true. Extensive refits like this can be done even in the field provided you have the right facilities and equipment...and a few weeks or months to spare. Any merc company worth their salt will probably have access to such facilities if they're working in the Inner Sphere (the Periphery is another story). Fortunately, Battletech is a game built around prolonged campaigns, so there are mechanics that can simulate the refit process and how time consuming it can be.

I have done some pretty nasty things with it recently, often because it doesn't get primaried before getting in range on tabletop.

@@ProfessorHeyTeeEn For me any mech that can one-shot kill is primary target; thus any mech with an AC20, or Gauss Rifle (or Clan ER PPC, etc), is always target number 1. The last time I went up against a Victor in tabletop was shortly after the Clan introduction. I came up with a silly close-combat "vulture" - 4 medium pulse lasers with targeting computer, 4 streak 6-packs, with reasonable ammo and enough heat sinks that it only overheats based on it's movement IF all streaks launchers hit. Using the targeting computer to target the torso I think will hurt most with the lasers usually lets me completely strip that area's armor; then I pepper with SRMs to finish. I saw the Victor on the field and had to maneuver to not get destroyed by his ranged support before I got within my 12 hex range. Then I stripped his right torso and peppered it with SRMs until it fell off. Victor player was not happy. His allies decided maybe I needed more attention and continued to harass me. -Which is exactly what I'd have done as them. But I still managed to dish out enough more damage to cover my tonnage. I haven't played tabletop since the group I used to meet with weekly collapsed - decades ago now. But we played regularly for about five years. Admittedly the clans were the big reason most quit. Unless everyone was playing Clan tech, and could pick the Omni's that were good, not just barely decent; it wasn't fun anymore.

It looks like sort of an ambusher mech. Unlike a sniper like the Awesome, it can only snipe with AC20. But it seems better to use all of its weapons combined. So Victor must sneak until it reaches mid range for medium laser. Then stop and fire.

@@aquarius5719 Like a Hunchie or and Urbie, yes, the Victor is actually a pretty nasty customer in a city or in very hilly terrain. It's very mobile for an 80-ton mech and great at hiding in alleys, gullies, or side streets to hop over a building or cliff and drop an AC20 round in someone's back armor, or finding short-range sniping spots atop hardened structures. And, though lighter than average armor for an assault, it does have the armor to take a few return fire shots. I do prefer the later iterations with Gauss Rifles. It makes it a great leader for a raiding lance.

Incorrect, 75-85 tons is optimal for 4/6/4 Standard Engines, so there is no sacrifice beyond c-bills, if anything there are only more benefits for going 80-85 tons for the extra structure and more potential armor.

Weird, I could have swore that the medium lasers were in the arm, must have been a weird refit that kept popping up at the factory from the Periphery. I will see what the boys on the floor tell me, but I trust you!

Flanagan's Repair and Refit is already in Maski's list, and I will be happy to remind them why messing with us is not the best plan. *Laughs in Periphery*

The Victor is a solid design, but it is a risky one as well. In Succession War era, it is a scary thing as it is mobile and packs that 20-class. Later on, the Gauss Rifle does help it quite a bit.

@@ProfessorHeyTeeEn True, but I do like to take out the 10D if I know I am going to be fighting in dense terrain.

It is one of those 'mechs that is produced in large enough amount that it will be available to almost everyone, at almost any point in time. Variants and refit kits are where the problems start to pop up.

What I hate about it is that TECHNICALLY it's not a legal setup as you can't fit 2 IS LB-10X the arm. The "legal" setup for it would have one in the arm and one in the torso. But yeah, I use the BSK all the time in Mech5, it is fantastic.

Very true I chalk it up to hero mech engineering.

It's not a Gauss Rifle, at the very least, and it doesn't match let's say a large laser. It is better than the AC/20 in that regards for sure though!

@@ProfessorHeyTeeEn Very valid points, certainly. I always classified them as squarely mid range. Shrug.gif!

It was not THAT rare. Factories were churning them out, just that there were fewer factories than for the Victor. For a mercenary outfit or a militia unit, sure, not going to be something you can purchase. For a house military or a military command? You could likely procure them with some elbow grease.

It's what Davion did. I agree it works fairly well.

Technically a RAC5 has a damage potential of 30, which is pretty enviable on an assault 'mech. Problem is that this is the best case scenario, with all bullets hitting, ect... Never a real fan of the RAC in general.

@@ProfessorHeyTeeEn RACs seams neat on a rifleman or something like that ( case and point, hired steel ) not on a victor or atlas III

I understand why. It's great... In its niche. Or with the various upgrade kits.

My ancestors were from French Canada, then my people have been Travelers within the Inner Sphere and Rimward Periphery. Flanagan's Repair and Refit facilities on Artru is now my home as I get plenty of engineering work there :)

Or Clint.

That's the thing, for a merc outfit you might want to go with the Victor, but for a military outfit, the Highlander is generally the better choice. Also, bang bang big gunslinger 'mech. Maybe I'll do a series on the gunslingers.

There is a reason why EVERY upgrade kits go for long range rather than short range punch. I think the Lu Wei Bing did a good balance with the Light PPC and MML, however.

As discussed, in city fights or canyons maybe it will be worth it, but that is limited in use.

Made in China, but it works fantastically well.

It is like the Mustang to the Pinto indeed.