Wemby's arguments for ROTY: - leads rookies in ppg - leads rookies in rbg - leads all NBA in bpg - leads rookies in spg - leads Chet in apg - fewer mpg - 2 years younger and real rookie - no teammates that get double teamed or assists for him Chet's arguments for ROTY: - fg % - team record? I don't even understand the question

Wemby on OKC would be unfair

Chet's last 3 games are hard to watch. He'll bounce back sure but Wemby is just killing it right now - in less than 27 mins, nonetheless.

With the way Wemby been playing since he moved to the 5, he has been going crazy and he’s doing it while on minute restriction.

Finally Kenny said it. From the perspective if Victor and Chet swaped teams... Victor would possibly thrive more even more at OKC. This does say it all. VIctors just getting started

Wemby is doing some crazy ass shit every game 😭😭 i love chet bruh im excited to see his career ... but with all due respect he aint fucking with Wemby bruh

ROY should be based on individual performance and individual performance only. Its not MVP. If u use ROY, DPOY, 6MOY, based on how their team doing whats the point on having those awards? ROY should be an award about whos the best among the rookies, 6MOY is whos the best among the bench players.Thats it.

Chet has all star maybe all NBA potential, but Wemby has all time great potential.

Wembanyama leads the entire NBA in blocks… *as a ROOKIE* Chet is a fine player, but he truly is not Wembanyama

Chet has had an entire year in the NBA system and is also 2 years older. Victor leads nearly every statistical category with less minutes, has broken multiple records this season and has a higher ceiling. He's had more "wow" moments

Victor

damn kenny with a clean W

Up to this point in the season, Chet is more polished and has fit in perfectly with OKC from the get go, turning them into contenders. Wemby has more freedom to make mistakes to find his game, and continues to rise. Taking these factors into account, it's much closer between these two than just stats and records.

Its really not even a question, Wemby showing early on what the difference is between a potential future great and a generational talent. Wemby is better and not slightly. Put wemby in OKC, OKC will do better. Put Chet in Spurs, Chet will perform less than Wemby. Many people do realize that already, and the rest will follow when spurs finally build around him. There's really no ceiling for him And let's not forget how strong wemby is in his head, that's unparalleled. He left his country, city, home, family, friends, habits to a new country, city, language, culture.. all that in a context of huuuuge hype just 6months ago that had everybody watching his first steps, waiting for an injury, waiting to see a small piece of failure. All they have to talk about is his relatively poor shooting precision at 3s, that's it... What the fuck did WE achieve in our life's in the past 6months? Fuck Im so lazy im still struggling finishing that book that I bought for myself lol Look at him how he did all of that!! To me that's mind blowing, and at such a young age too...

Chet is great on the OKC, but Wemby is breaking records and doing things that few players have ever done before.

Wembanyama is a better player, a better potential, having more impact already today. Put Victor in OKC almost everyone knows he would put that team even higher. Chet is 3rd option, he is highly benefiting from the fact that OKC is performing. That team was already on the clear rise without him, it's a continuation not mostly due to Holmgren. ROTY should never be about team performance. There is also a context, Chet is way older, and had one year to learn next to his teamates. These 2 players are so great, but we all know Wembanyama is from another universe. He is already showing it, it's not just a promise for the future. In 10 years time, this whole conversation will seem ridiculous.

I'm glad they're picking Victor. Too many American medias are changing their ROY rule (usually don't care about record but only look at individual stats and taking over a team) to favor Chet. But it's true that he's deserving too, in any year without Wemby he would make a great ROY. I just wish the Spurs would not limit his playing time and would... well, play better. Some of their games are so hard to watch, they are disorganized and sometimes blatantly ignore Victor.

is Ben Simmons still eligible?

I wont watch chet but ill buy 3 times the price for victor!

We could debate Chet in the first couple weeks of the season - But Wemby is really pulling away with this one and it's not that close.

Media just want drama. You know, for reactions like these, arguments and all that. They got eyes. They can see. Wemby just plain outclass Chet. As the season progresses, this will only be more obvious, barring any injury of course (knock on the wood).

Every time I watch wemby play he just blows my mind every time man

Shaq was so right in the min vs okc question

Chet is a great addition to what Sam Presti already had cooking in his pot, Victor is individually a better talent with possibly transcendental upside. This and Most Improved are the only awards that should be based on stats first, team success second.

Shaq made a great point … it’s easy to shutdown one player in the playoffs compared to trying to figure a team that has a strong offensive scheme.

Wemby is just another beast he just need a better team or better pg that'll actually feed him the rock

Wemby all the way! What a player, unbelievable.. so many people that now follow NBA just thanks to him 😄🙌🏼

This ROTY race discussion is a fraud. Spurs management said they were not focusing on winning, while OKC is making a convincing run for the 1st palce in the west. OKC is a team that clicks on all acylinders, and Chet is a very good fit for this team. Additionally he is with the team for an extra full year. Meanwhile the Spurs is a dysfunctional team. Early in the season it was very obvious that they were experimenting, unsucessfully, with various lineups. Recently they apparently figured out that it was better to lead a team with a true PG, Oh what a surprise! Chet is a very good player, but Victor is on another level. As for individual award it is a no contest. Victor showed leadership, and was particularly good vs star players. Chet stats are trending downward while Victor is on the rise. Victor has impressive stops stats (blocks and steal) but it is almost comical to see expereinced players stuck in the paint under his huge wingspan, and suddenly realizing that they are going nowhere, and clumsily trying to find a wazy out of his reach. In practice he is not just blocking shots he is also rejecting players. This is not something mundane.

I will go with wemby. We can’t say that wemby is the first option for spurs cause his teammates don’t really give him the ball. And some people are saying that spurs get worse with wemby but we all know that spurs are tanking, they don’t really care about win. 😅

WEMBY!!!💯💯💯‼️‼️‼️

Wemby is in the conversation for Defensive player of the year.. ROTY if he aint winning it, its unfair TBH.

20/10 and 3 blks

How is JJJ not in this conversation? He has been a diamond for the heat. Dude is tearing it.

rookie of the yr isn’t about record.. most #1 picks go to horrible teams. ROY about stats

I'm bout to play Ludacris, because them saying Wemby is slightly better than Chet, is just Ludacris!!! Spurs4Life baby!!!😎🤘💌💯

Agreed Chuck! Guys like Shai and Ant are the future. . . and Wemby too obv

It's going to be a league of 7'3 monsters. Pretty fun to watch the players evolve.

What numbers is chet putting up against other big men or stars whos guarding him like ad, giannis and kd?

Wemby DPOY & ROY

I agree what they said but that fact there's even a discussion tells you how amazing Chet is!

The "Chet is playing on a better team" narrative is hilarious; he's made the team better. He's a big reason OKC is top in the west especially on defense. Totally deserves ROTY.

This is probably the best rookie vs rookie debate since Bron vs Melo

Wemby by far. Chet is on his second season, and playing in a much better team.

I don't get what is so difficult about admitting Wemby is a better player period LOL. Put them side by side and there is no debate. Chet is good but Wemby is on another level. and he is only 20!!!! Ask OKC if they want a straight up trade for Wemby. They will choose Wemby every single time. Anyone disagrees with that is delusional.

To win the MVP your teams record MUST count (most VALUABLE) - you're obviously not that valuable if your team doesn't win, BUT rookie of the year has nothing to do with that.

I like all the answers but victor is showing what the future is and to be honest supers is not using him like they should just keep feed him the ball

This conversation lets you know stats don’t matter even though these awards are supposed to be individual awards but they still add your team

ROY races like these are ways tough. Chet, is playing great (team) but there is something to be said when you’re a TRUE rookie. Wemby is the No. 1 option despite his trash teammates

I agree wemby is the pick

They forget that rookie of the year can be CO Rookie of the year. Jason Kidd and Grant Hill. It happen before!

I’m confused, so please educate me guys. How would Chet get rookie of the year when he was drafted a year before Wembanyama?

Victor by an inch

While I also lean towards Wemby rn, I think that it is very close, and that the analysis is flawed: Wembys stats would probably go down if he was in OKC, because SGA is their clear first option offensively. Conversely, Holmgren would have higher Stats if playing in a tanking team like SAS. Thus, one could argue that while Wemby is playing for his own stats, Holmgren is contributing to actual wins.

Wemby is what that chet thinks to be

Gotta agree with big man shaq on that OKC take

Team Record was NEVER a criteria for ROTY . Wenbanyama is leading all rookies in EVERY CATEGORY. It's not a debate, especially since Popovich FINALLY put a point guard on the floor with Wenby

KENNY OUT HERE LOOKIN LIKE HE JUST GOT OUT OF JAIL

In agreement with Shaq

It's all about Chemistry! All players are good but the question is are they willing to work as a team.

wemby is the true rookie, he deserves it. injury or not , Chet was playing and or practicing against NBA level players last year.

My vote is for Wenbanyama 📢!! 🥇MVP🏆

Wow. Kenny had a good point.

Wemby hands down! He's a true rookie

Chet is a better 3 pt shooter and is still a great shot blocker so he may be a better fit on OKC. But if Wemby was on OKC they might have changed their roster to utilize him better...

The way media over rate chet has been crazy. Victor playing in the 20s and still has better numbers. Although chet was drafted 2nd, media kept spewing KD AD comparisons. He needs to live up to that hype or hes a bust, the higher the hype, the higher expectation. They say victor most hyped player since lebrick, They dont even remember how much they hyped chet a year before the draft and a month before it. Chet literally the 2nd most overrated player of all time behind steph and it ain't even close. Passed lebrick as a rookie.

Charles " But like I say" Barkley, LOL

Chet is cool but Wemby is something else.

Wemby my ROTY just based soley on how fun he is to watch.. even if the spurs is bad its worth watching for VIC

Wemby was the best defensive player in the league when he played his first game. Everything else is just a matter of time. It's really scary.

Shaq for the assist at the end!

Why can't they just share it?

Jaime Jacquez Jr

Shaq might be cooking with the OKC take, they seem to have a much more structured system similar to the Heat.

Wemby cause he has to lead the team. Chet is doing great, but he’s not the primary option.

It’s tough to give any awards to a guy on a 7-33 team but Wemby will probably win ROY. I’d actually vote for Chet because I value wins above stats…

I would say Wemby has a slight edge. He has far more freedom to do things within the offense.

It just seems unfair for a player, who’s already had a year of professional NBA training/prep, to be allowed to compete for ROY. I didn’t like it when Blake or Ben won it and I don’t think Chet should be allowed in the category. That full season of “sitting” is simply more time for that player to learn and train in ways a true rookie wouldn’t have just entering in he league.

Shaq is so funny lol. “This is the first time in my thirteen years here that y’all are all wrong” 😂

If we get a Luri everyone is going to complain that we are broken.

If they switched teams, okc would win a championship

Oklahoma would trade Chet for Wemby. Come on people

I know I’m biased but Chet seems to fit better on OKC. Reminds me of Steven Adams in terms of attitude, doesn’t talk much but fights every nught

What does Shaquille know about defense he stayed under the basket just like Rudy. OKC relies on SGA to win three games. Carl and Rudy take care of Chet. You double up on SGA where is the next option ? Chet can’t do it alone. Anthony and McDaniels on SGA makes it tough to score

Chet is the third option on okc, if Wemby played on okc he would be the first option. He’s miles ahead of Chet

You put victor on OKC and he’ll be doing better than Chet. Chet is only doing this well because of the system he’s playing in alongside the players next to him. Victor is doing what he’s doing with nothing around him.

For the first time probably ever I agree with Shaq here

Chet has that dawg in him... haven't seen enough from Wemby yet in that eye test rating. Hard to say because they are on two totally different teams as far as skill goes.

I'm sure we can all agree that Rookie of the year shouldn't emphasize Team success as much as MVP

If ROTY is all about efficiency and team record, then Carmelo Anthony should have won over Lebron James. Carmelo got to the playoffs in the Western conference, which was much harder than the eastern conference

Chet is a Baller but this wouldn't be a debate if Wemby played more than half a game. This 22 minute restriction really sucks. The Spurs have been in a lot of close games and even been up by double figures in some but keeping Wemby on the bench =no dubs.

It’s already scripted to be Wemby has been since last year 😂

It's never been about team record same with mvp , alot of mvp don't win championship the year they won MVP award so same with roty

Kenny is spot on.

Lets do co-rookie of the year so no one gets their feelings hurt

if wemby in okc, theyd be 100% better, wemby can pass

Victor is better than Chet but I'd pick Chet over Paolo Banchero.

Seriously... What the HELL is Shaq saying?? 😂

Kenny quited shaq real quick. “BOTH” 😂

Kendrick Perkins gonna play the race card so Chet don’t win.

If a Chet was a rookie, then he should absolutely win it, okc went from a 10 seed last year to being nearly at the top of the west, and chet is the only real difference between this season and last season. But he isn't a real rookie, and while I don't know this for a fact, I imagine many of the reporters who vote on this feel the same way. The award Chet(and other rookies who miss their first season) should win is most improved player imo.