It cracks me up when people always bring up the resale value of HDs. Some of us buy our bikes to ride the hell out of them, not to sell them.. Admittedly, I have owned 2 Vics and love them. I think that Victory overall make better cycles than just about anyone. That being said, this video is a bit biased, and is purely subjective on most points. Ride what ever you want, they make a lot of bikes, choose one and ride.

I love my 2008 Victory Vegas 8 Ball...super easy to maintain myself and ultra reliable.

Didn't matter to me what bike they liked, this was by far the best "talk" i've ever seen about 2 bikes. Most comparo vids are less than 3 minutes long and give you no clue as to which bike would be better. Engine heat, cable mounting,speedo mount....... thumbs up to reviewing stuff that really matters.

Great review. Makes me want to buy a Harley Wide Glide!

Everything he says sounds like Harley is better...

What a joke! Let's find some guy that owns three Ford trucks and ask him to take a Chevy for a drive and give us a fair unbiased opinion. Gimme a break!

This guy is surprisingly honest. Does not totally side with the bikes that he currently owns. Subscribed.

Watching the video with a smile thank you for the review

No one actually thought he was going to pick the Harley, right? It's a Victory commercial and he says in the beginning this will be his 4th Vegas. Even though he says he likes the transmission, braking, sound, and finishing touches better on the Harley. He should just tell us he's getting a discount for doing the video. Hahaha!

Funny how the only complaints he has about the Harley are the signature Harley things. The shake, wide bike.

I thought this was a Victory push but based on the conversation the Harley gets the nod over the Victory, even though he said he'd buy the Vegas, I guess he forgot that he actually preferred the Harley, lol. I considered the Victory but bought a slightly modified 2009 Harley Davidson Night Train and don't regret it, it's a keeper. Ride safe.

Harley, I hop on it and it turns heads, I stop in the bar for a pint it brings people to my table. Harley Davidson the best pantie remover in the world.. No matter what your riding ride safe all.

This video is so funny. Thank you Victory for the free Harley ad! He spends the entire video saying he likes this and that better on the Harley. I'm not biased I like most bikes for one reason or another, but this is just not a well thought out video by the victory group. He basically said he likes the Harley better but would still buy a victory........? Brand loyalty is dumb, if you like one bike better than another........ride it and smile!

Really liked how this review was less biased... both companies have they're pros and cons.

I have a victory highball an I shit on Harley’s I’m just like yeah I hear ya back there bud😂

the victory doesn't need fork lock. nobody in their right mind would want to steal it.

Here's the story behind this video: videosbyandy.com/harley-davidson-vs-victory-motorcycles-the-pepsi-challenge/

They're gettin there. Fit and finish has improved over the last couple of years.

I have that same Wide Glide... I LOVE IT!!!!!!! I sit on it in the garage at night. Just chillin.

So, final words he says he likes the Victory Vegas more, but throughout the video he's pointing out whats better on the Harley Wide Glide except for the swing arm and kick stand... I think he's confused...

It's crazy, the sound difference, but a friend of mine has a vegas that sounds like hells bells at open throttle. I prefer harleys, but it's a shame that Victory is shutting down. I think the vegas is a good looking bike.

I have owned both the Harley Dyna and the Victory Vegas. The major appeal for the Harley is the look, sound, and tradition. The major drawback on my Harley Dyna is the vibration of the engine. The major appeal for me on my Victory was the smooth engine and ride but the looks are lacking. I just find myself drawn to the classic Harley look. Both are nice bikes but I found myself using my Dyna more especially when riding with a group...The Harley is just more of a head turner and the sound is unmatched. The Harley with its thunderous sound just beckons you to ride it. It touches your soul in a way that the Victory just can't.

As a Victory owner I'm glad they're not trying to compare themselves to Harley anymore. Many of us wanted a big American cruiser that WASN'T a Harley. Nothing wrong with Harley's bikes, in fact many of them are awesome, but it seems like they have lost their focus. To me the Victory is more of a rider's bike where a Harley is a name first, much like a BMW or Mercedes. So you have your die hard HD guys and also a lot of poseur yuppie types just looking to show off how bad ass they are on the weekend. We Victory riders are the gearhead nerds trying to show how fast we can go (or how many miles we can go). In stock form the Victory does sound very much like a lawn mower as the HD sounds pretty awesome. I can see how some people could easily be persuaded. With pipes the Victory sounds like the hounds of hell as it should. Now that Polaris owns the Indian name and pretty much manufactures the same bikes with that name, I'm wondering if my Vic is going to be thrown to the scrap pile (as far as a name goes). I wonder if there will be a recall program to paint the Indian name on my Highball. Let's hope not.

You've just sold me on a Harley. Except the fact the guy says he prefers victory at the end, it really sounds like the victory sucks and he likes the Harley.

SUPRISE! Choosing Victory in a Victory commercial from the Victory Owners group! Who isn't that Suprised???

He is buying a Harley soon!!! Welcome to the family!!

I'm diggin my new WG, can't wait to get some pipes on it though.

Love the HD! I'd pick a Harley over any Victory anyday. I don't care about their shortcomings. HD has been around for 109 years so therefore must be doing something right. I don't know any other brand that has such a loyal brand following as HD does. I have ridden other brands as well but nothing compares to an HD ( in a very positive way ).HD's have indeed been copied but never duplicated. I think they're truly unique bikes a real household name. Owner of .HD Fat & Road King . .. . .

I think both of these bikes are freaking awesome. I think the victory in black looks bad ass just like the hd. Can't go wrong either way.

Harley is a harley. U cant beat that.

I just purchased my 5th Harley and plan to add another before the end of the year. To me nothing with an engine looks better, sounds better, or feels better than a air cooled Harley v-twin. I wouldn't mind owning a victory cross roads as my third or fourth bike but I would never trade my Harley for one. Victory, triumph, and Kawasaki all make really nice bikes and I wouldn't mind owning one of each.

I totally agree. No matters what you ride, the most important is that you ride, period.

Sweet sounding Harley!

Kawasaki 1700 Vulcan Vequero is a total motorcycle.......Its water-cooled, shaft drive is excellent......Not as pretty as a Harley (IMHO) but going across the country I think its a better choice....Many have gotten 150,000 trouble free miles on them!

@HellsAngelsForever Nothing has been deleted. If it has, it was flagged by KZfaq or the original poster. I don't filter the comments.

Harley is a great choice for anyone that is a motorcycle mechanic.

Just listen to the motorcycles. The Victory sounds like a sewing machine and the Harley sounds like what I think a motorcycle should sound like.

no fork locks cuz no one will try and steal it

would be one dangerous blindfold test :)

If I wanted to ride snowmobiles I'd buy the Polaris. But I'm riding a motorcycle so keep your victory and I'll enjoy my Harley.

Forget all the verbal effluence. Thumb the START button and ROOOOAAAAAAR! The Victory slinks off with tail between its legs. If Victory can replicate that roar, then let 'em come back and try again!

Well I can say that I own a 08 HD Dyna Street Bob and it's for sale. I am considering a Victory for my next bike mainly because Victory has just come out with the Hi-Ball and that's the look I really want! In order to get that old school bobber look from Harley I would have to downgrade a bit from a Dyna to the Sportster Forty-Eight and then spend thousands to modify it to look like I want. It's going to be a tough decision as I love HD.

Interesting comparison. The Victory has a modern sweeping look to it. Cool but not for everyone. I love the Wide Glide, but it has the 103 A Motor in it. If they put the 103 B motor in, it would be a better bike IMHO. The A motors bounce on the rubber mounts shaking the hell out of the bike. That is why the gauges are on the tank, you would never be able to read them on the bars. But I guess that is what most HD people want.

I've owned a dozen H-Ds (including two FXRs). This is the 21st century. It's time for a change. My new machine for around town will be a Victory Vegas. For touring, I'll take my Beemer.

I'm a Victory fan, but these videos really make the Harleys look better...I'd fire this guy

Não existe comparação!!! Harley é única e exclusiva. A minha sportster é dura, treme tudo e eu gosto assim.

thanks for the comparison. I am trying to decide which would be better for me. now all have to do is find time to drive 4 hours to the two dealer ships to sit on them.

I agree with BloodTar . He said he would buy the Victory but had a lot of good things to say about the Harley .

Well Polaris bought out the Indian name and look at those bikes! Free kin awesome! I have owned both Harley and victory. Currently riding a triumph Rocket 3. next bike for sure will be a victory hands down.

He said in the beginning he preferred the Vegas. It wasn't as lopsided as you made it out to be. Some items just get weighted differently. For instance, the freedom 106 for me spanks the annoying big twin hands down. The wide glide also has an annoying kickstand and the tank gages are also not preferred and also noted in the video. It's all preference and opinion. I'd ride a 1200 custom long before an ultra. My preference. YMMV

I have a Wide Glide. Love everything about it. Not a single complaint, but I'm not one of those Harley guys that automatically hates any other brand of bike. Ride what you like and get in the wind!

VICTORY,My Harley stays in shop more than on the road!My Victory never had a problem!!!

Why all the dislikes? Seemed like a really honest review

Well I had a 2011 Wide Glide with the same paint as this one, it got stolen within my first year of owning it (even with the fork lock locked) I guess crooks found the Wide Glides desirable. I replaced it with a 2012 Wide Glide that I still own and ride today. I obviously prefer the WG and took it touring a few times. Found I really like to tour, so I ended up adding a 2017 StreetGlide Special. People who rag on Harleys just because... are exactly like Harley owners who rag on other bike makes just because... If you are on two wheels and we pass while out an about, I'll wave to you no matter what bike you are riding. Its all motorcycles to me.

Looking at these two bikes together, there's no question which is the coolest bike. The Harley wins hands down.

Based on what was said in the video the HD was the better bike but why does Victory alway use an older model Harley for comparison? Check out the other Victory comparison videos and you will see what I mean. A new bike and the Victory still lost based on what the Victory guy said. Ride safe.

This sounded more like a advertisement for Harley than a victory owners group video. All the things he pointed out about the Harley made me want it more than a Victory. I like the vibration personally makes me feel like I'm on a motorcycle not an electric scooter.

@steve k. Right on! Lol. Ride safe bro

I am a Harley Biker but i liked the Victory bikes as well. Victory went out of business but what happend to all the bikes at the dealers? Did they all evaporate ?

The rider didn't seem biased. He pointed out what he likes about both bikes

What bike will hold its value better?

I have a softail custom decked out but im looking for a victory as i type this lol

I'm a little biased... I have a wide glide and it's awesome. I also have two shovels and a 74 ironhead.

So Timmy if I am a brand new bike maker my motors must be 6 valve, ice cream cooled, inline 5 cylinders right? Because 2,3,4 and 5 valves per cylinder; air,oil, and water cooling and single cylinder, v-twin, inline 2,3,4 and 6 cylinders have all been done on bikes before. This is what I MUST DO, if I don't want to copy anyone elses hard work that is...right?

I will just have to get both, Harley for Harley group rides and Victory for every other day.

The Harley looks and sounds Better! And most importantly the Harley will be there long after the Victory cycles will be gone.

Did anyone notice how much he stared at the HD at the end of the video, after he said he liked the Victory more?

harley wins for me just because of the sound

I guess it depends on where you live. I live in Phoenix, Az. and a radiator is a very nice addition.

@MrClanCularius Exactly. I used to ride a Vulcan VN800A. Beautiful bike, great handling (for a cruiser), brakes that actually work and great performance for 800cc. I always ran rings around my buddies on their Fat Boys. Still: Every time I rode with those Harleys, I always envied them their engines' character. Start-up/idle-sound, the "clonk" from the gearbox .. The Kawa's V2 just seemed soul-less in comparison. That's why if I get another (cruiser)-bike, I'd always go with the Harley.

Man the sound comparison really made the Harleys case......I really didnt see anything from this video that would make me choose a Victory over a Harley.

went to a motorcycle expo. checked out the victory and liked them. went home to look for a dealership. there were no dealerships that dealt purely victory. they sold snowmobiles, jetskis, sportbikes, quads, and victory. i have a harley and am not a slave to the brand (don't own a single piece of harley clothing), but the dealership gave me pause. i like that the guys who on my harley do nothing but harleys, that the dealer sells nothing but harleys? any victory riders have any thoughts?

what is the guy with the sunglasses name?.,,

Would love to see a video with someone who is not a short stack. I realise that dsjr is a VOG.net regular, but man. I'm 8 inches taller than him, and trying to find a review for a taller rider seems to be pretty hard to come by.

I have had a lot of bikes an currently own a Harley,... But this guy is clearly trying to sell a victory but gave all positives to the Harley an very minute ones to the victory.. Now I love the look of the victory but damn you whooped your own butt guys!!

oh and I ride with boots and can work a kickstand - nice job for the kickstand challenged Victory - you win that one!!!

Good job at finding a non biased rider (sarcasm).

8 balls aren't bad looking, highball is really cool looking. I've ridden pretty much everything, Victory included, rode all the Harley models, never a wide glide but a street bob. Ill say this...for me personally, I like when a bike has a character and personality, the only bikes that I have ever ridden that have "spoke" to me, were BMW Airheads, and Harley Dynas and Road Kings. I rode the Vics, and I really really wanted to like them, but...they felt very robotic to me. souless.

I loved my Victory Jackpot Premium. Then they killed Victory. I, in turn, pulled the plug on Polaris. I now drive a brand new Softail. The hell with Polaris.

i have the same Vegas and the stock pipes are ear ringing load

that sound is so worth it, ;its like thunder!'

Hi don , I'm gonna ask you a few questions and I need you to answer them as we discussed earlier!

Which would be a motorcycle with a mean, evil, dark, yet old school and classic look? Im deciding between a Wide Glide or a FatBoy. But which bike would be considered more aggressive and classic? Im into the style of the MCs (do not belong in one), and Im looking for a retro and evil feel.

@1SaG Exactly! I've seen many test rides Harley vs Xbike and the conclusion is always the same; if you want a bike that look like a Harley you buy a Harley. Who wants the ride a beauty if she's not going to tremble under you anyways? ;)

Realistically though fit wise would probably be more appropriate to compare the fxdl that also includes adjustable seat and risers. Not a harley that's more built for larger people, by that I mean above 5"8.

if you push a button will the Polaris turn back into a snowmobile ?

I would say whichever one speaks to your heart and soul is the right choice, just like everything else in life. You can make a list of pros and cons, rationalize, etc.., but which choice, if any, stirs your soul?

' I'm surprised they didn't talk about performance. He had more positive comments on the HD than the Vic. I have the same color HD in a 2012. That comes stock with a 103 cubic inch motor. The previous yrs it was a option.

they talked me into a zx14

Seems they recorded the sound of the pipes wrong. On the Victory they were on the opposite side of the pipes, the Harley, same side. Also, my Victory does have fork locks... it is the Kingpin Deluxe though.

Never had a cruiser but Harleys have the best sound in the world.

He should have asked which one has more plastic parts!! His answer would have been, "The Victory wins hands down"!

He's owned 4 victory's to find one good one.

Pretty good real world comparison video. The Victory owner liked the H-D in almost all respects better than the Vic, yet he would buy the Victory - huh??? Because he can operate the kickstand easier and likes the fork mounted speedo? That just doesn't add up.

sounds like even VOG members prefer the Harley

I judge a motorcycle on FUN factor, not which one has the most technology. Not a brand loyalist but so far I find Harley Davidson the most FUN. Of course I have a 2002 dyna wide glide with a carburetor so it still has the " old harley" soul.

It's a good thing he said they are going to play the sound of the victory engine because without that information I would've assumed someone was running a broken sewing machine

Agree

Victory did make some excellent bikes...but all vic owners would be sick right now! That dyna can still go to any Harley dealer and get serviced...u may be able to get the Vic serviced at an Indian dealer...but if not, good luck finding sm1 to work on it if, and when it breaks down!

Little unsure there, the H-D has the lokka and sound. But i kinda like the Vic to, but always loved H-D so when the time and money comes, i think of a Dyna Super Glide or the FatBoy