Victron 150|100 Review and Test

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Victron 150|100 Review and Test - For Beginners!

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Nate's DIY Solar

Күн бұрын

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@natesdiysolar Жыл бұрын

If you need higher VOC, check out the Victron SmartSolar RS! The RS has a VOC of 450V and is available in 100A or 200A output. It also has 2 Isolated & Independent solar trackers that can take up to 7200W of solar on each tracker. Link in the description... FWD: 12:47 to see the side-by-side comparison. Enjoy!

@DesertOffgrid Ай бұрын

My midnite classic 250 died out of nowhere, and they wanted 200 plus shipping both ways for repairs. I ended up getting a Victron 150/70 tr to replace it. What a difference. I am getting higher input and cooler running temps. Keep in mind Victron doesnt have fans but rather passive heat sink cooling, and the Midnite has 3x fans! Fans which suck dust into the internals and boards are covered, surely that doesnt help cooling! Victron was also much easier to setup and find specific settings. Best part is i can check my system without getting out of bed! The app is untuitive, history and data collected are top notch and it has a 5 year warranty. Oh and its a pretty blue. Im sold

@natesdiysolar Ай бұрын

Lol, good deal. Yes, fans are always a potential point of failure. I'm glad you like it..

@BradCagle Жыл бұрын

I have the 150/85 version of this. It's a monster, 2400w array into it. Doesn't even break a sweat. BTW you can find these that are limited to 12/24v at about half the price. Check out inverter supply for the weird 12/24v limited ones, save a bunch of money if you dont ever plan going 48v.

@natesdiysolar Жыл бұрын

Oh, ok. Good to know. Yea, I plan on going 48v soon.

@BradCagle Жыл бұрын

@@natesdiysolar Yeah, I wish I could afford the RS version. I like the Isolation it offers.

@natesdiysolar Жыл бұрын

@Brad Cagle yea that's a real cool feature.. me too. Did you over-panel your 150 85.. how many parallel strings do you have.

@BradCagle Жыл бұрын

@@natesdiysolar it may be over panneled by a few watts. If i come across a few more 72cell 300w ish panels i might add them. It 2 in series, and 4 parallel.

@natesdiysolar Жыл бұрын

@Brad Cagle that's the panels I have.. 335W 72 cell. So your pushing 40A on you pv input..

@terencehunt6733 9 ай бұрын

ordered today The same controller what's in your video blog spent a lot of time looking into it before I spent the money I've just building a new system and I'd already bought a controller for it and I'm not even worried it yet so it was on a good price with Amazon So I took the plunge and bought it for Christmas as present to myself lol Maidstone Kent England wishing you a happy Christmas and a prosperous New year all the best

@natesdiysolar 9 ай бұрын

Thank you. You will like that unit. Merry Christmas to you!

@owenbruce4120 Жыл бұрын

Class controller, great multi voltage demo 👍

@tiborchren Жыл бұрын

Nice comparison of the efficiency of different voltages of systems. I would have a wish and suggestion for a similar video: I would like to see a comparison of the efficiency of this MPPT and the MPPT from All In One inverter under different conditions, and for longer term - full sun, partial shade, shaded. I've been interested in this for a long time and you have everything you need now to test and compare. I suspect this MPPT will perform better, but the question is by how much, but maybe the results will be surprising, it's hard to say. Thank you, I look forward to more videos.

@natesdiysolar Жыл бұрын

That would be interesting.. the victron has the ability to track multiple MPPT curves. Don't understand it yet, but I'll look into it more once I get this thing permanently installed

@natesdiysolar Жыл бұрын

Over how long a period..

@tiborchren Жыл бұрын

@@natesdiysolar I was thinking over a longer term so that both MPPT would get out of their comfort zones at the power limit where they start to heat up. The MPPT in the All In One inverter turns on its very noisy fans for cooling. Both MPPTs at their limits would have power limiting and at that point the comparison would be more interesting and they will come to that point after a longer period of time with the peak power limit from the solar panels and when they start to heat up, this is how I meant for a longer term. This might also give a basic indication of the comparison of active and passive cooling efficiency for both MPPTs. But it would also be interesting to do a basic comparison of the two MPPs in their comfortable working conditions (not at their limit) with the same panels connected.

@natesdiysolar Жыл бұрын

@Tibor oh ok. I see what your saying. Could turn off the all in one so just the MPPT runs.. need to get a temp gun.

@Bambiniuno 8 ай бұрын

Hello Nate! That was a really great review of this Victron Solar Charger. Thank you very much for this work, I learned a lot from it! I'm going to order the 150/70, which is more than enough for my system. Kind regards and thanks again :)

@natesdiysolar 8 ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

@ViolaVineyards 6 ай бұрын

Mine is arriving tomorrow ... Newbie at best. Trying to gather my components together before setting up a functional array. Dumb question ... what kind of circuit breaker are you using? Great job on the video.... entertaining as well.

@natesdiysolar 6 ай бұрын

Hi. I use this one made by blue sea . It's marine rated www.partdeal.com/blue-sea-systems-surface-mount-187-series-circuit-breaker-150a-7148.html?gclid=CjwKCAiAu5agBhBzEiwAdiR5tMAN3w2xUF3fM2aF0r_hciZhMq6VLGCQAKkktwIEkbfy5IX8vM-6uRoCF-wQAvD_BwE

@SuperRobkar Жыл бұрын

Great review!

@natesdiysolar Жыл бұрын

Thanks

@melvinbush3852 8 ай бұрын

Thank you

@natesdiysolar 8 ай бұрын

No problem

@margarita8442 Жыл бұрын

I like victron but not the price

@natesdiysolar Жыл бұрын

I know it's very expensive.. thanks for watching.

@margarita8442 Жыл бұрын

@@natesdiysolar great video !!!!

@waynelincoln6340 25 күн бұрын

I have the same controller ,I am going to hook up 4 -12v deep cycle batteries in a series total 48v . Do I set my controller for 12 v batteries . Thanks

@natesdiysolar 25 күн бұрын

No, it will be 48v . In the video, I connect 2x 24v in series for 48v . Whatever the final resulting voltage is for series connection is what you will set in the controller.

@waynelincoln6340 24 күн бұрын

@@natesdiysolar thanks

@AmrHollywood Жыл бұрын

Hi Nate, just found your channel today and appreciate your method of explaining solar - I too purchased the Ampere Time 24v 200 Ah battery - problem I had was several chargers popped because the BMS in the battery disconnected too early by a few volts during relatively high current charging - have you had this experience? - I eventually bought the Ampere Time charger in desperation, no problem with that charger but I am worried to connect my Victron 100 / 50 controller - any tips? Thanks When you show the bluetooth BMS that is that for the yellow top 12 battery, correct, I would like to know if the 24v 200ah BMS has bluetooth but don't think so...

@natesdiysolar Жыл бұрын

Really.. hmm I run 2x 24v 200ah on my Solar Power Station in parallel and regularly charge at 60A but that would be 30a per battery. That is really unfortunate. I have had zero issues with those batteries. How many amps were you pushing on a single battery.

@AmrHollywood Жыл бұрын

@@natesdiysolar 2 different AIMS Power Smart Chargers charging at a little over 30A but instead of going to a lower rate they suddenly overloaded the supply power and popped the breaker and quit working - The BMS kicks out at 27.7V instead of 28.8V - hopefully the Victron can set max charge voltage at 27.7V

@natesdiysolar Жыл бұрын

@AmrHollywood @AmrHollywood I was looking to buy one of those aims units . Turns out no one sells them any more because to many problems with them. I would bet that is not the battery but those aims chargers. Have a look for yourself. You can't get them. I just looked at the manual for the 24v battery and it states a recommend charge of 40a but on another page it give you time to charge at .20c and .5c 100A and also states a max continuous charge of 200a. I would say it's safe to use you victron with it. Many ppl use those batteries. I have not hooked up my victron unit permanently yet but have charged a single battery with as much as 50a . Hope this helps. Post the question in will prowse dyi solar group to get 2nd opinion.

@natesdiysolar Жыл бұрын

And thanks for watching!

@natesdiysolar Жыл бұрын

@@AmrHollywood yes you can set a max charge on the victron. I have my float at 27.2 or 3.40v per cell.

@Alexandree55 5 ай бұрын

Nice vid my friend. One question?! Victron Mppt 150/100 12v(parallel) system bat, x3 200ah = 600ah Option 1 6 panels with 200w 23V and 11.05A parallel system = 1200w 23V and 66.3A Option 2 2 panels 600w 41.3V and 17.2A parallel system = 1200w 41.3V and 33.4A which option is best for this case? Best regards

@natesdiysolar 5 ай бұрын

Typically you want to keep the Amps as low as possible by increasing the voltage as much as possible.. 15% under 150v max so 135v max.. when you cross that 30a threshold you must use 8awg pv wire.. its more expensive than say 10awg.. unless you have a short run... also when you go higher amps you must fuse each parallel string... that charge controller at 12v is suites well with 200 to 250w panels. Panels of this wattage will have a imp value less than 10a.. so you could easily have 3 parallel strings if you decide to go to a 24v or 48v system.. the more amps the more fire prone things can be as you are dealing with higher current. But if I had to choose from your 2 options. I'd go with #2. But in either case you need 8awg pv wire. 10awg pv wire is good for 30a. Hope this helps.

@Alexandree55 5 ай бұрын

@@natesdiysolar You helping a lot , Thank you. If you put the systems in series, in this case is option 1 is better? More volts or amps do not influence the better/faster battery charging? Sorry for my bad english.

@natesdiysolar 5 ай бұрын

@Alexandree55 yes that would be a perfect setup. It does not affect the charging either way. The job of the charge controller to to convert that higher pv voltage to a charge voltage your battery likes. Watts are watts no mater how it's wired you will still have the same watts. Watts equals total volts times amps. If the voc of your panels are 24v then 6x panels in series would be 144v voc. That is just under the 150v voc limit.

@Alexandree55 5 ай бұрын

Im pondering the setup with 6 panel 200w 23v in series, its for my RV. The only thing i prefer in parallel setup its when one of the panels is in the shadow the rest of them are not affected. Thank you so much Nate!

@natesdiysolar 5 ай бұрын

@@Alexandree55 that is true. Perhaps do 2s3p or 3s2p

@awesomedee5421 Жыл бұрын

all this time I thought the TR model meant Trailer version.

@natesdiysolar Жыл бұрын

Lolol, good one. It mise well be since that's where they are often used. Thanks for watching!

@bill7078 9 ай бұрын

What size circuit breaker is best for and 12 v battery and or a 24 v battery

@natesdiysolar 9 ай бұрын

That depends on your inverter. Take the watts of your inverter. eg: (1500w / 12v) * 1.25 is ~ 150A 75A for 24v battery

@willlong6275 2 ай бұрын

What battery cable. Size u have there

@natesdiysolar 2 ай бұрын

I thin that was 4awg.

@panospapadimitriou3498 Жыл бұрын

does overpanel means amps only ? i mean i m sure cant play with more voltage but can i overpanel my 100/20 with 2s3p 8,5amps each panels ? gives 24A+

@natesdiysolar Жыл бұрын

Generally, they are referring to watts. I looked up the specs for the 100/20 and it says max pv short cuircuut of 20a so I don't think it would be a good idea to exceed that 20a value. Likewise the 100 15 has a limit of 15a.

@natesdiysolar Жыл бұрын

Check out this calculator. explorist.life/solar-charge-controller-calculator/

@WiSeNhEiMeR-1369 Жыл бұрын

HOWdy N-DIY-S, ... Thanks = VICTRON is Quality & a great brand name ... SCALABILITY is also a desirable FEATURE ... but only = Only - ONLY 150 PV Input LIMIT 😞 ... I have 250 DC Volt PV input on my system - ... but newer units have as much as 500 volt PV Input ! ... so 150 volt input is no longer a desirable LIMIT ... ... IMHO COOP the WiSeNhEiMeR from Richmond, INDIANA COOP ...

@natesdiysolar Жыл бұрын

Yes, I see. Definitely makes things easier with higher VOC.

@margarita8442 Жыл бұрын

my growatt spf5000es has 450dc max input

@ChrisEpler Жыл бұрын

It's funny how all the pics of the Victron units look the same size, then it shows up like this...heh...

@natesdiysolar Жыл бұрын

Is it larger lol. I think I took the picture myself

@ChrisEpler Жыл бұрын

@@natesdiysolarJust a bit larger than a 75/15... ;-P I got the 100/30 but using it in a mobile use right now, may swap a 75/15 in for that use once I convince the wife on some more panels for a small permanent install...Have a good south facing 'ledge' of roof that should be able to do a few hundred watts, good 'nuff for some shop uses charging lawn stuff...

@natesdiysolar Жыл бұрын

@ChrisEpler oh lol thought you were talking about the actual image size lol . Yea they have a 250v version as well 250 100. Just show how much you save on your power bill lol

@ChrisEpler Жыл бұрын

@@natesdiysolar Well so far I've saved us about $0.34-$0.51, so it's not convincing her yet... BUT it does get me out of the house and walking back and forth checking it and putting panels out, rotating them to follow the sun etc so there's that...

@natesdiysolar Жыл бұрын

@@ChrisEpler lol

@armandvermeulen2947 Жыл бұрын

150 volt is low… for big installs its not good

@natesdiysolar Жыл бұрын

You have to consider the charging amps. At 48 volts, that's 6000 watts of PV input... not small. You would have parallel strings. But yes, it's considered low voltage. They have a 250V version as well.. I think that's the largest one. Thanks for watching!

@WiSeNhEiMeR-1369 Жыл бұрын

@@natesdiysolar = new (other brands) have as much as 500 volts PV input voltage limits now COOP ....

@MegaCyrik Жыл бұрын

I dont see the appeal. So expensive. Display looks like a calculator from 1980, so amateurish and insulting to the customer for buying a "high-end brand", yet costs extra, and the ability to use 12-48v is present in even the worst and cheapest mppts and some pwm. Point being, its not special. Also.. Anyone can hook up a lot of mppt's to a large battery bank. No special software is required. Even the cheap "one solar" mppt can do 150v, show graphs and actual real menus and letters in the display with no extra expenses, and offer 12-48v as well, add a bit more $ and powmr can give you up to 500-600v pv. Or a nother brand if you dont like that one. Yes i know people say victron is holy quality and blabla. And.. nobody said it was bad. So hold the tears...But..! The story that all other brands are bad just because they cost less than half.. i dont buy it. I can appreciate they are there, victron, creating competition. I also like the huge heatsink. And the software seems neat. But not for 600-650$ extra... Or much much higher.. pr item in that eco system. Edit: forgot to say thx for video. I did enjoy it.

@natesdiysolar Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!