Vid 13 Piaggio How To Unrestrict For More Power Piaggio ET2 50cc Vespa Respray

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How To Unrestrict S Scooter For More Power Piaggio ET2 50cc Vespa Respray . In this video we remove the restrictions on a 50cc scooter.
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@victorhawkins3461 2 күн бұрын

Most concise instruction yet on how to de-restrict my ET2 50cc! Thank you...and now I'm off to watch your others!

@robertbills4290 6 жыл бұрын

I've got a 50cc scooter martin and as soon as the weather gets warmer I shall be getting it deresticted now I know what's what. Great instructions on how to do it martin thank you Rob

@Parknest 6 жыл бұрын

It is just your luck to have all 3 restrictions. I'm looking forward to seeing this all back together again and running.

@Taliesin6 6 жыл бұрын

Here in the Netherlands we also have those bloody rings in the exhausts, i usually take a few old dremel discs and use them on an old file or something until they fit inside the end of the exhaust and get it out that way, usually takes 3 discs.

@rogerj.3640 2 жыл бұрын

I love the music, Martin. I felt like i was watching a gameshow. Announcer, " let's play derestrict that engine. Here is your favorite host and mine, Martin". 👍 Great vid and very helpful info, thanks.

@ArronAdams1990 6 жыл бұрын

Hi martin, I'v tinkered with quite a few 2 stroke moped engines and the jetting can be a real nightmare to get right, i was told by a motorcycle tuning specialist that a good guide to upjetting is to buy 3 jets, one + 5% one + 8% and one + 10% larger than the number that the standard jet is stamped with, it can save a lot of time messing around thinking of what size jet to buy next if the previous jet doesn't work might help :)

@donovanf1 6 жыл бұрын

A very good vid Martin, full of a lot of useful information

@tigermoth3194 6 жыл бұрын

We de-restricted my sons Gilera DNA 50 (same Piaggio engine as yours) getting rid of those same 3 restrictions and it went from 35mph restricted to 47mph de-restricted. Although, to be fair he only weighed about the same as a bag of sugar.

@fintonmainz7845 2 жыл бұрын

I'm also the weight of a bag of sugar. Unfortunately, a half ton bag.

@judedoyle2519 Жыл бұрын

@@fintonmainz7845 ahha

@ollyreynolds6176 6 жыл бұрын

amazing video going to do this on my et2 next weekend!!!

@petercami1776 4 жыл бұрын

Hi Fella, great video. very informative and great quality. Thanks.

@barneyhands Жыл бұрын

Love this explanation - so helpful, thank you 🙏🏻

@ClassicCarCave 6 жыл бұрын

Martin, Great video & tips, We used this type of variator belt system on our snow track steering when we were in Norway with 45 Comando Royal Marines, They had a turning circle of around 100ft lol. Cheers Dave.

@retrorestore 6 жыл бұрын

Its also like the old Daf Varomatics back in the 70's Dave, i'm sure you remember those lol

@rocketroy469 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks ...exactly what I needed to know

@g4zzie83 6 жыл бұрын

Nice one Martin great video

@Jim-ie6uf 6 жыл бұрын

Must be cold in the log cabin. Cold front moving through s Fla, now 68, was 80 earlier. Nice work. Can’t wait to see it on the road.

@retrorestore 6 жыл бұрын

Yes it was Jim, 3 bars on the fire though lol

@TheShadeTreeFixitMan 6 жыл бұрын

Good tips that I can use on my son's Piaggio. Thanks

@retrorestore 6 жыл бұрын

Cheers George. It should be the same.

@vdubs6068 6 жыл бұрын

Great vid Martin 👍

@retrorestore 6 жыл бұрын

Cheers Jamie

@stefanzara9408 2 жыл бұрын

Cheers mate! Lovely video! Thanks for sharing 🙂 👍👍

@retrorestore 2 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it

@danguy2009 6 жыл бұрын

The outer pulley should have a plastic fan on it and when replacing the pulley you should pull open the rear torque drive pulley and push the belt down to allow slack on the belt so you dont pinch the belt when replacing the front pulley.

@harwoods11 4 жыл бұрын

Ah ha.. Nowt like the useful screwdriver chisel. Highly specialised tool too 😁👍👍

@Lfig012 6 жыл бұрын

great vid ...thanks

@CulichorHimself Жыл бұрын

Really nice video, Thank you!

@retrorestore Жыл бұрын

Glad you liked it!

@brianfairbrother87 Жыл бұрын

Very good information good video

@DivergentDroid 3 жыл бұрын

I saved a copy of this video for reference, Thanks. For some reason, my China 150cc scooter came with a "Speed Limiter" according to the paperwork. Since I don't know exactly what the Chinese company means by "Speed Limiter", I'll check all these places plus the CDI.

@davidgraemesmith1980 2 жыл бұрын

Chinese scooters and bikes generally copy Japanese style restrictions using the CDI 😕 although a buddy found a cone of death in the exhaust of his Taiwan 50

@DivergentDroid 2 жыл бұрын

@@davidgraemesmith1980 I still haven't checked these places because I'm still braking the bike in but I'll do it by summer. I don't want to change anything from factory specs until it's well broken in. I just don't get to ride it that frequently. I'm also a little hesitant because I don't have my motorcycle endorsement yet. I'm struggling to perfect figure eights which is what they skill test on. Thanks.

@vwcol..7719 6 жыл бұрын

Nice video as normal Martin a job well done I hope your brother can handle the power😂

@stebenit 6 жыл бұрын

enjoyed this vid Martin makes me wish I was sixteen again lol tinkering with the moped.. atb Steve

@retrorestore 6 жыл бұрын

Haha, we've all been there. I had a kitchen table tuned fizzy as well back in the 80's lol

@MowerMan 6 жыл бұрын

Wonder what top speed you will get! I hope the brakes are good!

@shankill178 6 жыл бұрын

Love these videos Martin. Don’t let Lee on the bike now. He might blow the wig off himself. lol

@69Phuket 6 жыл бұрын

It's an epitaph of life....Restrictions. ''RIP DEAD MASSES'' ''Unfortunately you didn't get your full potential''....Love, Happiness and a kick start into heaven. Bit Dark..But i'm moody tonight. Good Work Martin.

@retrorestore 6 жыл бұрын

Too true, run free and lift those restrictions and live life in the fast lane.

@69Phuket 6 жыл бұрын

Grrrrrr! Kidding me? ;p

@69Phuket 6 жыл бұрын

Gertcha!

@henkmensen1500 6 жыл бұрын

Very nice video, but I'm not used to anything else, I love this very much!! I could watch your videos all day! Thank you Martin, very good job ... !!!

@RamenOnWheels 6 жыл бұрын

Henk Mensen same

@hinaleh6271 9 ай бұрын

Thanks

@masterbrown2002 6 жыл бұрын

Could be wrong as I’m watching on a tiny screen, but a common problem with rotary tools is that the little plastic cap comes off the locking push thing (and usually the spring too) which causes that rattling sound and can get stuck and cause smoking, buzzing etc, it looked like yours was missing, so might be worth checking to see if it is just that.

@retrorestore 6 жыл бұрын

This one was fine bud. I'll strip it down and check it anyway. Cheers Martin

@chriscampbell8309 6 жыл бұрын

i hope to see it fly up the road martin lo.l

@davidlough2182 6 жыл бұрын

nice one m8 that should go like the wind now lol

@user-se7vt5ow4e Жыл бұрын

On the older two strokes I always do a leak down test and make sure th e crank seals are good. A leaking crank seal can seize the engine.

@retrorestore Жыл бұрын

With a leaking crank seal, it probably wouldn't start.

@stevenwatson3963 6 жыл бұрын

Stuck a 65cc AUTISA big bore kit, with Boysen reeds, and an all-speed spanny can [in chrome], on my 1980 Honda MB5, and it went like a cheetah on crack.GVP 793W.Wished id kept it.

@retrorestore 6 жыл бұрын

Yes I've tuned a few scooters and my old Fizzy so this one is just a basic derestrict.

@jamesconner3437 3 жыл бұрын

Great that you show the working parts..could you please look into a video of derestricting the Fly 50 4V that came to the US market in 2012... The only other video for that currently on You Tube is all talking, it does not open the scooter insides at all. Since you did an excellent audio and good video here for the 2 cycle, I would love you to be the FIRST and only one to do the 50cc 4V,,,!!!

@retrorestore 3 жыл бұрын

If I had one James, I would do it.

@ianallen2 6 жыл бұрын

Great video once again. Great tips there. When I get mine tomorrow, I will be checking mine for restrictors. Although mine is the 4 stroke 50cc engine. Early on in the vid, when you showed the ring on the variator, at 2:32, the belt didnt look too good. Looked a bit chewed to me. Looking forward to the next vid. :)

@retrorestore 6 жыл бұрын

Yes, I think the mouse living in the engine had a bit of a chew. Will probably change it later.

@ianallen2 6 жыл бұрын

Pesky rodents. lol. I have seen some where there are mice nests in the belt casing. lol

@retrorestore 6 жыл бұрын

That's what I had in this one as seen in an earlier vid.

@ianallen2 6 жыл бұрын

I remember the nest in the vid. Seen others too.

@ianallen2 6 жыл бұрын

Just watched the vid again. lol. Vid number 3. A small nest. I saw one before where the casing was full of nest material.

@andycousins5016 6 жыл бұрын

Good vid keep um coming and are u doing any mower vids ta

@retrorestore 6 жыл бұрын

Yes, when the weather is better.

@baldanddangerous1572 6 жыл бұрын

no restrictions thats what we like to hear lol,open her up martin,all the best.....................dougie

@RamenOnWheels 6 жыл бұрын

douglas palmer 😃

@stevenwatson3963 6 жыл бұрын

Mart, clean the commutator ring on you're Dremel with brake cleaner and compressed air.New Dremel mate.Cheers.

@retrorestore 6 жыл бұрын

Yes Steve, i'll give it a go. Cheers Martin

@jaggass 6 жыл бұрын

Now it will be able to keep with traffic.

@retrorestore 6 жыл бұрын

Yes Michael, should be a lot quicker.

@vinlemarechal8296 2 жыл бұрын

fact back late 70s 50cc bikes were pushing out 4 to 5 hp,and 80s plusrestricted bikes 50cc put out about half that amount its an easy fix,for the record same went on with 125 cc restricted down,it was that bad on 125 at one stage that 80cc bikes had the same power output.

@jorgemota2155 2 жыл бұрын

Amazing

@rogeroconnor5182 6 жыл бұрын

almost ready for the track,lol

@brianpercival1829 6 жыл бұрын

Another great info video. Martin, the drive belt looked a bit chewed up. Maybe a good time to replace it while it is apart?

@retrorestore 6 жыл бұрын

I think the mouse had a chew Bri. I'll probably do it at a later date.

@viktor928 3 жыл бұрын

Please help..🙏My scoot is 2004 Derbi - piaggio 50cc et2 engine, yasuni r, malossi 2000 multivar, polini clutch with green springs, original big clutch spring, I have the white one also that came with the variator kit...17.5 naraku carb...still trying jets at 84 now, pilot is 34. I couldn’t get it over 49 miles an hour. Still with original airbox, even I have the polini open air. Tried rollers from 5g to 7.2. The only difference pretty much is the acceleration, heavier rollers drop mile or two in top speed. Malossi kevlar belt...

@bobnieves8967 6 жыл бұрын

wow, that's good to know here in new england in massachusetts scooter are under 50cc they are restrictred.

@RamenOnWheels 6 жыл бұрын

BOB NIEVES yeah I agree, some real helpful info

@SubZero-nb4jz 2 жыл бұрын

tnx

@stripfix1979 6 жыл бұрын

Another helpful video Martin... What about new rollers in the engine? Will they make a difference? Cheers Glenn

@retrorestore 6 жыл бұрын

I'll run it first before I make any changes if necessary.

@peteramberley9952 6 жыл бұрын

Nice video martin .shame you didnt do a befor and after performance vid .its a pity in 1980 you didnt have all the bigbore kits that are available today .although they were plenty fast enough i guess the unristricted peds

@retrorestore 6 жыл бұрын

Yes, there are plenty of kits for these engines. Done a few big bore before.

@casperladefoged2821 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the video! Do you have to do all three? or could u just do some of them to increase top speed by a little?

@retrorestore 3 жыл бұрын

All 3 i'm afraid

@davespooney8472 6 жыл бұрын

Hi, did you check the rollers inside the variator? If they are flat spotted they need changing. Only cheap and make a big difference to the transmission.

@retrorestore 6 жыл бұрын

No, didn't bother, very low mileage this bike but may check in the future when I change the belt.

@sil-ly4yj Жыл бұрын

Hi Martin thanks for the video. Does removing the exhaust cone restrictor increases the noise? Thanks in advance

@retrorestore Жыл бұрын

no it doesn't

@danweeks706 6 жыл бұрын

Another cracking vid! Hope you are not snowed in. We've had a fair bit in the Midlands and my mum and dad in Spalding have had a lot too. Bet Lee is glad of the syrup, I mean hair system, in this weather ;)

@retrorestore 6 жыл бұрын

Can get down the village but not to the next town. He don't need a cap any more lol

@MrBerenguer67 3 жыл бұрын

Hi thks four your great video I buy a Piaggio Zip 50 2T from 2015 I won’t a little more speed what parts you recommend to buy the sport clutch whit blue springs I buy or ready any more you recommended thank you very much

@retrorestore 3 жыл бұрын

Just make sure the restrictor ring in the exhaust is removed and check if the variator has an extra spacer ring that restricts the speed. Some carbs also have a restrictor ring on the inlet. After that, you might need a bigger main jet. That should be a good place to start.

@brianlisec2509 3 жыл бұрын

I am trying to trouble shoot a problem with my et2 was running normal for a stock scooter riding around neighborhood to give the battery a little charge and came upon a speed bump unexpectedly ,did the motorcyclist thing at last minute full throttle over bump caught air and after landing scooter began to sputter as if a fuel problem then died and now won’t start even when opening throttle thinking it might be flooded . Where should I start looking? Thanks

@retrorestore 3 жыл бұрын

Check for spark and then fuel delivery, squirt a bit of easy start in the back of the carb to see if it fires.

@sosiggaming3941 5 ай бұрын

my ciao only goes 25km/h which is about 15 miles an hour i think, so do you have any tips on how i could derestrict it?

@piciorusandrei2300 6 жыл бұрын

hello, great video, thanks! how much speed do you gain after those modifications? i have a 2013 Vespa S50 2T that goes 60km/h right now.

@retrorestore 6 жыл бұрын

We got it to 85kmh with me on it at 16 stone.

@piciorusandrei2300 6 жыл бұрын

it seems that is already unrestricted. The top speed is 60. the carb is stock, with 53 main jet. Do i need to change that too?

@hendriknitsche9336 Жыл бұрын

Are you sure about the restrictor cone in the exhaust? Maybe this is actually necessary for the resonance in 2 stroke engines.

@retrorestore Жыл бұрын

No, its a restrictor bud.

@TheWatson1993 5 жыл бұрын

Are like the zip 4t 100cc

@GingerPhotographer 3 жыл бұрын

Question Sir: Would I have to do all 3 restrictions to gain a little more speed? I have a 2016 Piaggio 50cc 2T and it's struggling to go over 44 kph! Any tips welcomed!

@retrorestore 3 жыл бұрын

yes all 3 are neeeded.

@GingerPhotographer 3 жыл бұрын

@@retrorestore Thank you for the prompt reply - I noticed that my exhaust has a tube that run's off in to the EXHAUST AIR VALVE see following image ( motor-vehicle-madness.co.uk/piaggio-zip-2t-50cc-exhaust ) and a pipe that's already pinched. The pipe running off to the Air Valve, is this the one that has to be cut? what would happen to the Air Valve.

@Av987 6 жыл бұрын

Nice vid, but what did you use to pull that restrictor from the exhaust?

@retrorestore 6 жыл бұрын

Just hooked it out with a screwdriver.

@Av987 6 жыл бұрын

Ah ok, much simpler than I thought :-D

@patrickdoyle5761 2 жыл бұрын

hi, do you know if a derestricted euro 4 cdi/ecu will work on a euro 5 bike)

@retrorestore 2 жыл бұрын

Sorry, I don't

@armanusa986 3 жыл бұрын

Nice video thank you but i wish you could give approximate speed increase after all that lots of work my personal opinion I wouldn’t do all that work for 5 miles even for 10 miles I would think bout it

@retrorestore 3 жыл бұрын

it only done 30mph before and 50mph after

@johnstubbs1585 6 жыл бұрын

martin dont let lee have a go on that now it might blow his wig off Hahaha lol

@apassionfortangling3671 6 жыл бұрын

john stubbs LMAO

@f.r4689 7 ай бұрын

I have a 1998 Vespa ET2 and the main headlight lights don't work, I checked the wires and they are all good, what could be rust on the switch?

@f.r4689 7 ай бұрын

Please help me

@Cavalier_Steve 6 жыл бұрын

Hi Martin great video as always, just out of pure interest and for others that may de-restrict there’s do you know the legality side of this? All I really know is you will have to tell the insurance. I know I know yawn a boring question lol. All the best. Steve.

@retrorestore 6 жыл бұрын

Not part of my skillset i'm afraid Steve. Basically, even if you change the wheels on your car or bike or put a non standard radio in, the insurance wants to know. Rule of thumb, always tell the insurance company of any modifications you may have to your vehicle.

@RamenOnWheels 6 жыл бұрын

Steven Watson it depends. Do you live in the UK or the US?

@Cavalier_Steve 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the reply’s gents, as I said it’s just out of interest for me, yes it was only recently I found out that something as pedantic as changing the radio you have to let the insurance know, I would understand if it was an expensive unit. All the best. steve.

@Cavalier_Steve 6 жыл бұрын

Ramen On Wheels thanks for the reply I’m in the UK but I would be interested what laws are in place for the US to.

@richwat395 4 жыл бұрын

Great video, my boy has got a zip, I assume they are simular. You did not look at the CDI, is there a reason not yo change it for a race one?

@retrorestore 4 жыл бұрын

I can't remember Richard, it was a while ago.

@UtraGamingNL 3 жыл бұрын

CDI is only applies to 4stroke mopeds

@flocring1710 Жыл бұрын

Hellou i have a magneti marreli carburator on my vespa the restriction are the same like in delorto carburetor?

@retrorestore Жыл бұрын

Not sure bud.

@flocring1710 Жыл бұрын

Thankyou very much

@flocring1710 Жыл бұрын

Another question. Now I bought a 50 cc 2t vespa primavera and I sort the site from the carburator and I put a 60 jiggler. It's running very well my speed is about 65 km I'm happy with that speed . Do you now if I have to modify something at that oil pump are it will be fine because it was a 53 jiggler and now it's 60. Thankyou very much

@retrorestore Жыл бұрын

@@flocring1710 Increasing the Jet from 53 to 60 should be fine.

@scottwilliams1215 6 жыл бұрын

all the 16/17 yr olds will be unrestricting their mopeds the morn now martin lol

@donthatecongratulate Жыл бұрын

Where can I locate/order those jettings at?

@retrorestore Жыл бұрын

I got them from Ebay

@debturner2759 6 жыл бұрын

don't forget to turn oil pump up or it will sieze up

@retrorestore 6 жыл бұрын

Yes, I'll be doing that when its mall back together in a later episode.

@romeolandaverde2874 3 жыл бұрын

Will this work on a genuine buddy 50cc scooter

@retrorestore 3 жыл бұрын

If it's restricted the same way, yes

@jaggass 5 жыл бұрын

How's the Vespa doing?

@retrorestore 5 жыл бұрын

fine

@piciorusandrei2300 6 жыл бұрын

What jets did you use? main and idle?

@retrorestore 6 жыл бұрын

Main was a 60

@kv4416 4 жыл бұрын

@@retrorestore Size 60 is the best choice then?

@therat5680 6 жыл бұрын

Nice video you make it look easy lol, where is lee he should be helping you! 👌

@retrorestore 6 жыл бұрын

He was there in the background.

@jsd5670 4 жыл бұрын

Do you have to do all 3?

@retrorestore 4 жыл бұрын

Yes, you do.

@jsd5670 4 жыл бұрын

@@retrorestore So if they have all 3 restrictions then doing one wont really make a difference? Cheers for the reply

@michaellowery1559 6 жыл бұрын

Martin, your going through them dremels ?

@retrorestore 6 жыл бұрын

Yes I am. I've had 3 burn out.

@Phil-1969 6 жыл бұрын

Evening Martin, what sort of top speed do you think it will do now ?

@retrorestore 6 жыл бұрын

Should break 50 mph I hope.

@PauC-qo1uq 6 жыл бұрын

You forgot your disclaimer, It’s actually illegal to ride a de-restricted moped or scooter unless you have a full bike license or a CBT. A full car license doesn’t cover you.

@retrorestore 6 жыл бұрын

I didn't forget anything. Do you suggest every motorcycle tuner has a disclaimer. I don't think so.

@garyfisher4155 6 жыл бұрын

Paul Wright you can't even drive that on a new car license, you needed to have passed your test previously to 2001 I believe.

@PauC-qo1uq 6 жыл бұрын

Gary fisher. Once a moped is de restricted the rules on who can ride them charges, I wasn’t having a go at Martin. Licensing rules are a nightmare, and people need to understand them before modifying cars and bikes alike.

@RamenOnWheels 6 жыл бұрын

Paul Wright its not illegal to derestrict your scooter. You can do all the modification you want to it. You just better not actually try to drive it on legal road withput the proper license.

@simonrawle7885 6 жыл бұрын

Friday night kids in bed . wife's a work im sat with a nice whisky watching this happy days. a 66 main jet you may get away with that with a k&n or free flow air filter

@retrorestore 6 жыл бұрын

The good life Simon, I'm in bed too lol Yes I'll soon find out when it's running.

@danguy2009 6 жыл бұрын

Ive tinkered with a few of these bikes and with those carbs to run a open filter you need a really big main jet, something around a 80-90, ive even known people to need to run over 100 with 70cc kits using this carb and a open filter. on a 50cc kit anyway a open filter is pointless, just use a load more fuel and make lots of noise.

@scarlett7858 6 жыл бұрын

66 will be fine better to run richer then leaner

@retrorestore 6 жыл бұрын

I hope so.

@danguy2009 6 жыл бұрын

Only risk is you may blow a plug or it may splutter on full throttle

@shawnmrfixitlee6478 6 жыл бұрын

That is a man eater now Martin .. LOL.. should help it out a bunch .. !

@RamenOnWheels 6 жыл бұрын

ShawnMrFixitlee Vrrrrm Vrrrrrm😉🛵

@ajwasp3642 6 жыл бұрын

66 jet is gonna be way too rich. A 58 (60 tops) should be good, if the 53 was the old jet. Ditch 2 or 3 vario weights (free mod)for better performance.

@retrorestore 6 жыл бұрын

Yes, I think you are right, i'll probably order the correct size in a 60. Not heard about removing 3 weights before.

@kv4416 4 жыл бұрын

@@retrorestore size 60 is the best then?