neil curtis you'll be plotting a rtw trip now 👍

Lee is an excellent, natural teacher.

As far as I'm aware the only limits on shaping and waypoint numbers are on the older 550 style units. I sometimes use hundreds of points in a route if the route is running through a city for instance where there are numerous different routes available for the zumo to take , whereas in countryside or on a Moroccan trail the number of points can be minimal as the zumo only has maybe one or two roads to choose from to find a route from point to point.

@@1983lparker Someone from Garmin replied to me (I was surprised;) saying that Zumo 396 has a limit of 30 waypoints and 125 shaping points per route, which doesn't sound like a lot to me for a newer model.

@@sylviemorissette6781 no nor to me, I can't say on the new 6 ending units as I haven't used one but is be very surprised if it's limited to 125. Just try it by making up a random quick route of 200 points and sending it over. 125 points in my eyes is around 125/150 miles long route.

@@1983lparker I opened a new route in BC and inserted 220 points on 103 miles (that I presumed to be shaping points except from start and end). Once imported Zumo did split my route in 3 parts saying "has more than 29 via pts. Route was split into 3 trips". I rechecked the route and turns out that every points were alerting (so via points). I changed all except a few at the beginning and end to "not alerting" and the route was not split this time and seemed fine. Properties: Pts: 220 Via Pts: 91 distance: 103. Not sure why so many via pts since almost all non alerting I would guess Garmin gives limits to make sure we do not overload unit's processing capacities. Thank you again!

Ah found your other video with the answer: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ebVmf5R03Larco0.html

Ιωάννης Παπαφάνης hold your CTRL key down whilst left clicking on the ones you want to change to non alert..... That should do it. Cheers

Good morning, first of all make sure Basecamp and zumo are married together using the same settings as this is the number 1 problem for zumo not following a pre planned route (see video 1) and the number 2 problem is whichever you use ,either waypoint or shaping point is to have enough of them in your route to force the zumo onto the roads you want. You will find that the zumo tends to jump onto motorways more when there is a motorway nearby + not enough shaping points are on the road you wish to ride on. In comparison to that if you were in a place where not many other roads exist, the zumo wouldn't have as many options to choose from the figure out the fastest route. I leave my zumo set to fastest route all the time. You do need to understand that the zumo calculates and thinks that EVERY shaping or waypoint is a little route as far as the zumo is concerned so if there is a quicker way from waypoint to waypoint it will take it, hence why the more shaping points you put on a road the less likely it will be to deviate from that road as it is constantly recalculating without you even knowing it.

@@1983lparker Thank you so much. I ride with a group and I think maybe some of the other riders do not put enough points on their routes. i will review and modify them before importing to my Zumo. I have watched all your videos now (i think) and will do it again; so much to learn.

P Matty as long as your zooming in on basecamp to street level to make sure your point is exactly correct then your way is fine. when transfered to the zumo I would load each route you've transfered up and cross match the distances from basecamp with the recalculated route on zumo. if they are near enough the same to within say a mile the route got recalculated fine and you put enough shaping points in. if there's a mileage difference re check the route as zumo has sent it off course somewhere

Yes i did have one situation where i had a stop going down and a stop coming back at the same services for fuel,but in this case would you believe it the actual fuel stop was on one side of the services but actually split down the middle for traffic from either direction,this was sending me up the motorway back down the other side to the first waypoint,took me a bit to get my head around the mileage difference,another way i do it is go to google,zoom in,right click,get the coordinates,put a new shaping point in somwhere near on basecamp then copy the coordinates from google into the new waypoint and rename if needed,thanks

I don't use waypoints and im not sure you can strip them as they are fixed points that stay in your zumo and BC until you delete them manually.

Sorry , I meant stripping shaping points on transferee, ( the setting in the basecamp options under transferee ) @@1983lparker

@@corecop what you want to know about them? Strip them out and you will get less info on your screen but the same info is sent to the zumo. It's more for the user's screen not to be clogged up if your using them as shapers and not actual poi's. 👍

@@1983lparker ok so after using shaping points in basecamp. I can select the option in basecamp to strip shaping points during transfere and zumo will keep my route. I just wont see those dots . is that correct ?

@@corecop yes ,spot on, basically less clutter on the screen, so long as you have made the shaping points non alerting. Alerting ones will still be shown on screen .

mmiikkee5500 I'm from Derbyshire and that's all I speak. Alreeeet.