i only disliked because its such a sad story

Yeah, but you can still donate to Richard L Spencer, a former member of the Winston's, who still has the copyrights to the music. www.gofundme.com/f/amenbrother2

Ikr, this is just a clear example of how the music industry loves to rip people off just to sample their music.

@@asongaboutafriend2592 he had drug addiction too

@@qw8u no offense but so did whitney houston but they still gave her credit for her music.

Likewise.

To this day I share it with whoever i think will listen

Likewise. Still coming back to be emotionally drained by this fascinating, depressing story.

Same here. Showing this to my 11y kid in 2024

awesomeness!😀

public domain only applies to things who have been around much much longer than 40 years

Cody Worley damn right

yeah whatever. write your own shit.

+bozcro Ha, that's funny given the subject of the video.

Thank you for making the clear Timothy! This was never intended as a KZfaq video!

Yes sir 😊

What do you mean 'breadth of audience'?

@@somebonehead He means the lack of expression--the atonal, almost prosodic narration--prevents it from being associated with any particular community, group, race, culture, genre, or otherwise. It conveys information.

where did this installation appear first? thanks! :)

Yeah I really had to remind myself that this was recorded 20 years ago. Feels like it could have been recorded yesterday

Junglissss

@@frankiebernard4728 massiv

Well, it was still the 21st century

@@The_Man_Who_Sold_the_World. man be forreal. it's been 20 years lmfao

Nicholas Martin this is what all music theory classes sound like

Nicholas Martin his voice is not monotone, it's just subtle

this is your mind on drugs

Perfect description for abstract hip-hop

No you don't

Nice.... That's Awesome, because this video taught me how to Not fall asleep (Practice makes Perfect.) while listening to NPR, which is a good thing when on a Road Trip or trying to get home after work in Bay Area traffic.

Oh Yeah, and also how NOT to speak on the Microphone when at work..... I MC strip clubs. LMGDMFAO. Definitely a good "How Not to" video for ANY MC.

That’s sad i got into this music at a head shop with a amazing sound system.

Despite the fact that it is as the narrator pointed out "over 10 years old"? 😏

Liar

I don't mind the video. Its on point.

I have played this at parties in order to educate people.

I always thought u couldn't make videos longer than 10 mins until like 2009 or something like that

The time before commercials.

I watched this for GCSE music in 2008

Like if you read this comment ^ In the video narrators voice.

He was training to be the Google Translator's voice guy.

Lmao; Bueller Bueller

It's K-Billy's Super Sounds of the 70's

jay mon I agree too. His voice is too deep for this drum loop topic, like want to reveal something secret or confidential. No need to be like that. Everybody knows that this is sampled from the other song, just like Funky Drummer and Ashley's Roachclip.

yes, every drum & bass track has a variation of this and I miss it..especially the Speed Limit 8 disc series

Dan Engstrom no not every drum and bass track uses it.

ThirdEyeWarrior Jungle*

+deepspacerecordsuk dsuk Not every D&B track, but quite LARGE number of them did.

+dockdrumming It's almose every Jungle track.

yes it appeared in my 'recommended' and I realise I already have it saved from years ago

well, in terms of amen breaks; yes

@djay doom what's the black rain video?

Sir , can you please further identify the Hendrix, so we may check out yr hypothesis? Thanks

Dann Kopko yes but this is about the actual master release not the drum pattern, since the record itself was sampled that is where the copyright violation would occur according to the 1988 Biz Markie decision . The Zero G case is really blatant

roquefortified Fire

Dann Kopko interesting. ...now im off to research lol

+Dann Kopko I did some research and you are indeed correct. Though, as mentioned before, it's not about the pattern per se but the actual sample taken from a The Winstons record.

Yea, you're right. Rock that beat right on lunchroom table.

So many huge channels doing this today

READING THIS IN JACK SPEAROW'S VOICE

Brad Bailey True mate.

Jack Sparrow The Powerpuff Girls Theme used the "Funky Drummer" break, not the Amen.

knight wing They're both still fucking amazing!!! 2 best history of drum loops! It's fucking beautiful!!!!!

radanju3 Exactly.

R G Very interesting observation. I took a listen on Spotify. Certainly sounds to be adapted form the Gainsbourg track.

I like how Bjork used the break for her song Crystalline.

+blipblip88 so true. Ever seen a Squarepusher show.... HAHAHA

lol

+blipblip88 Same here lol

Wipe the record down in Gruve Glide, waft the vapors away, let the recording breathe. Savor the 16 bits on a 30 year old acetate. You only get 50 plays.

DelilahThePig FYI, records are analog. Bits are digital.

You live in the UK ? I'm looking for a dnb drummer , I'm turntablist and want to start a dnb band , drummer , synth player , me on turntable's doing samples and scratches and an MC ...I'm bored of djing 🤣 need to make it all live

good observation

2007 was when the internet started to go to hell. It's all so tiring.

amen brother.

a lot of good art is born from copying, you know... why can't the world be at peace with that?

Yes the internet is a thing of the past... as in deep web before social media

Lol a thousend times better than Diazepam but without all the negative effects xDv

HAHAAAA!! YES IT IS!

More or less yeah. The "Wilhelm Scream" I noticed about 20 years ago when it appeared in several big films. The "Amen Brother" break is the foundation for drum and bass which started over here in the UK in the early 90s.

To me, a Wilhelm scream is a knowing handshake among industry insiders, like the sound of an 808. Sure, anyone can recognize it, but the Amen break is bigger than that. It's a huge building block of so much of music and evokes entire genres just by playing it at a certain tempo, and you can cut it up in any format and it still is recognizable. There is really nothing like this in film. It's just so pervasive.

More like, ‘the lick’. There’s a jazz phrase that everyone plays as a nod to the original. It’s everywhere.

yes and no. most of the time amen is used intentionally because its amen. like in jungle and breakcore. but sometimes yes, you can find it sticking out in unexpected places like some japan pop metal song

this was the first KZfaq essay I loved, many years before so many of the ones which are ubiquitous now started being made

Dj you dj and produced? I swear I use to spin your tracks back in the day

(2nd place I'm posting this) OMG you're right!! I just listened to The Impressions song, "We're A Winner" -- spot on has the Amen Break!!

@@genevievebeals1131 Right.

Exactly. Me too

Probably a sight to behold

I dance to Jungle in the Los Angeles underground rave scene

You dance to the bass not the drums in....jungle/Drum 'n' bass...

Aphex Twin used the amen break? giving it all that talk about the thought of someone else's music inspiring his makes him sick then uses someone elses literal music what a fkn rat

Dalton Swayze nice catch

Dalton Swayze - there's 6 letters in your 1st and last names

illuminati confirmed 😂

6 is the number of man... you are a man. Also at the time of writing this..... your comment has 16 likes. 'x-files theme plays'

@@LightWorkerBass Man is five, and the devil is six. The devil is in the details.

Dammit, now I have to buy THAT record. Youre right, completely ripped off the Impressions.

That's a good theory, but not really correct. It's important to distinguish between "stealing" a drum pattern and "stealing" a sample of a recording. Drum patterns cannot really be copyrighted. Drum recordings can. No one, not even Curtis Mayfield, would or could sue anybody for re-playing his drum patterns live as part of a new recording. If that were the case, whoever played the first, basic 4/4 kick drum pattern could sue all subsequent disco, house and techno producers. However, assuming he owned the copyright, Mayfield could sue anyone who sampled recordings of his drum playing. But the Winstons didn't do that (obviously they played live long before the advent of samplers). The reality is the Winstons didn't pursue anyone primarily because a) they weren't aware of the popularity of the sample until long after its use; b) the band in its original formation no longer existed at that point and c) they did not have the financial resources to hire lawyers (this last bit adds a whole racial, socioeconomic critique to the story--another example of black musicians not being able to reap the rewards from the very influential music they made. At the same time, had they policed their copyrights as doggedly as some corporations do, we would not have the Amen break culture we have today. There's a lot of contradictions!

Yes, that is duly noted. However, In this case, I am not talking about just the widely sampled drum break, as this video concentrates on, but *the entire song*--thus, I stand by my theory.

Nate Harrison Well said my man.... thats spot on correct. Just wish I could say it how you put it. Jondom, You're whole theory is flawed. There was NO stealing back in the impressions / winstons days. Just respect, music and pushing forward. Mayfield wouldn't of sued winstons just like ray charles wouldn't of sued james brown, isaac hayes etc. There was NO suing!! You did a version of thier song out of respect, or it was some number who no one knew who wrote the original. Even back in 89/90 no one could of predicted how big or influential this break would become. Everything and everyone was being sampled! The main guy who embraced and respected this new ART form was the Godfather James Brown. He put another 20+ years on his career and countless money by doing so. Sampling Is just musical culture and social occurances evolving. Crack head record company money men got involved in the 80's thats when people started shouting "stealing" "He stole, they stole" Logical progression thats all. This argument was huge in early 90's now its dull. Now everybody samples.... but to do it creatively and make something new. Thats something else.

tim a Looking at it from your viewpoint, I respect and appreciate your comment. Thank you.

Yeah man, society is, like, so lame dude. Stay w0ke.

At least you care. I see the other guy got his GoFundMe campaign funded before his passing. Probably went to his funeral unless I'm wrong.

1932 was a great year for big band

+Jon Stauffer I still have most of my old vinyl. wanted to start mixing again,but save the vinyl and play with new tracks.digitally and it does seem that even the hard hitters are missing some bottom end

totally agree 😀

i think it depends on the sub genre of dnb that you're listneing to

It amazes me that proto-jungle track "We Are I.E." by Lennie De Ice was released in 1991 (and supposedly produced in '88!!). Equally LTJ Bukem's "Demon's Music" is so advanced for the time '91/'92.

same here my friend Shocking the older we get i guess

That was his voice cut to acetate... 🙄

DemonWolfGaming James Brown's funky drummer sped up

DemonWolfGaming Same XD

Action 52's intro comes to mind. :P

And the Rocket Power theme

BomberMan Hero's OST as well.

One of the best docs ever!!

SuperPussyFinger Brilliant username

They are repaying him now

They are not 'repaying' him. Just some guy decided to get some money from fans who appreciated his contribution to modern music as a gesture.

thefunkybeautiful yeah this is what meant

i think they actually gave the copyrightholder (only) about 13/33 k $ soooo i guess that's something

6 sec of drumming in 1969 that has revolutionized the face of music. Drummer Gregory S. Coleman died homeless and broke in Atlanta, Georgia in April, 2006. Yeah man! That is a damn shame! But almost 50 years later his 6 sec of a drum beat (the heart of hip hop) lives for ever and is respected by most! Who would of ever thought?

Check out Mav - Break Is The Legend

Rex Benincasa thank you

***** Jazz and everything closely related to it (like R&B, rock and metal) has a lot of notes that don't sync up well to a sequencer. The concept of "syncopation" is a little over-simplified by the software that tries to replicate it. People unconsciously change tempo to express mood. This means they might start at 155bpm, but may deviate to 153 or 157 or change by fractions of a bpm. Makes sampling difficult and composing to sampled songs even more difficult.

skynrdpikr It's not about the rhythm or break rather the actual sample used. Every example shown used in music plus a gargantuan amount, is a direct sample of that one track. It isn't recreated, its a direct sample from the record, that's why its so fascinating because nobody is recreating the sound. It is the most sampled piece of audio ever.

Th3OmegaPoint I was literally thinking this and I scrolled down to read this comment!

That's stand-up legend Steven Wright in Reservoir Dogs. I was thinking that he kind of sounds like a pre-recorded message. No matter. Excellent video.

Sampling at it's conception? Internet a fluke ? I think you're thinking of the 90s buddy

Vinyl lasts much longer than that, at least when you look after them and clean them properly

He is talking about a Dub-Plate, not a standard vinyl record. A Dub-Plate is an Acetate disc, in which he states will usually only last 50 plays.

Charlie Jerome that comment was abouut a dub plate, nota commercially produced vinyl.

My bad lol

alec Gatenby What ends up happening after fifty plays?

That's fucking funny.

lol

+bldwldr or Kanye

Dolman Eff ^

+Dolman Eff stfu

+bldwldr Vanilla Ice "Ice Ice Baby" was just a blatant rip off of Queen/David Bowie's "Under Pressure". The worst I've ever heard.

Disagree. I think all samples should have to be approved by the original artist prior to their being used. Also, the penalty for trying to hide the original track should be even greater than using it without permission.

Same. How are there less and less pixels every time you come back? ha!

Peaceoo8 It's actually 13 years old.

@@WebMint_ Peaceoo8 looked at the 2006 upload date rather than the 2004 original release date.

Yeah this is big !!

Aggy O dropping major knowledge

TheUKGDani any recommendations?

Carlos Ortega get goldies INCredible sound of drum and bass. It's a good start:)

V. Sigma That's what I thought.

My immediate thought

No. It's not

I'M THE SELF INFLICTED

It was also used in Prodigy's song, "Poison", as well.

DrDread what you talking about, that is Ted. *in my best FBI covered up disguised scrambled voice pitch modulator*

I think you mean a TedX talk. That's the one anyone can do, Ted Talks are reserved for brilliant scientists and the like.

Weary, Mark Ronson did a Ted Talk about sampling, and so did a guy that did a video series about everything being a remix, so this guy would fit right in.

Agreed. I think the whole 'anti-video' aesthetic it has only makes it more powerful.

Mind blown

Holy. Shit.

+Maria Mejia lol yup

+Maria Mejia That's Funky Drummer.

+Maria Mejia 😳wow yeah!