Body's aching all the time....

so awful :(

Worst thing to happen in recent memory in the uk, My partner was working near there that day and saw the building still smoking

I saw this on the news in California in the U.S.A. please remember people that the chief will bring his men and women out because the firefighters safety is number 1. Becoming a first responder is partly knowing you may not make it home. During 9/11 first responders were doing what they trained for and unless it was saving people they were not following any orders but to do what they signed up to do. In this fire that killed 72- 80 people it was on a smaller scale but it was much sadder. Alot sadder because you could hear the people clearly dying. I honestly would have rather shot myself and anyone else if we (my children, my dog, myself, possible grandparent) were going to die being burned alive. And I would NEVER dream to ever do harm as such but what is a better way. Quick shot or two holding my family and saying our last words or screaming in agony while being burned alive... and i mean like I can see and hear my neighbors dying and burning. This is awful and it did remind me of emotions of 9/11. And why do we have apartments so far up? Why is there no way down on the outside and on both sides? Why did it spread so fast...my guess is because it was built with the cheapest and likely very cheap and illegal materials. There should have been sprinklers. Yet it was too spread out already. But id haventried my best go get out. Id rather jump holding my children. 9/11 could not have been prevented. This building burning and burning so fast could have been prevented. There just was no time. I hated living in an apartment but at least only 3 floors. You can survive jumping from 2 or 3 stories easily esp if you have time to throw mattresses down or the f iredighters have that tarp thing. This is awful and it shows how much the government there really cares about their citizens that may be poorer. Sounds like the USA.

Being from NY, I can't not think of 9/11, and the same desperate situation of just being trapped in a blazing inferno with no escape. And this isn't even a deliberate attack. It's just the result of years of systemic rot and apathy.

@@DaL33T5 That, and people willingly ignoring the advice of making fire safety plans for each disabled tenant. It's also the result of people willingly choosing dangerous materials in order to save money. Horrible. So fucking horrible. This event just haunts me. Those poor people.

same for me..I will never forget either event and the sensless loss of lives.

Evil. The victims must have justice

I am so so incredibly sorry for your loss.

I am deeply with all my heart, sorry for your loss. I can’t imagine how it might feel.

Politics and selfish landlords and they blame firefighters for the blaze when the landlords say if a fire happens GET OUT

I am deeply sorry for your loss. Once I was in a fire, it scared me so much. But then again, they may Rest In Peace.

True London is a mess from the top. Why build these unsafe council towers in the first place. Disaster waiting to happen. Unbearable to watch

So sad

❤️

Mothers intuition is always right. Especially when you have a baby in you, you will be extra sensitive. Your mom is amazing and I’m glad you guys didn’t have to go through that ❤️

I don’t know why anyone would live in those awful towers, they are so unsafe and like small little boxes.

Rosco Pico Does it matter, what's more important, people with No homes or Grammar. 😒

L00TL4S5 _ I'm so sorry for your loss.

kandicani we all will have to unfortunately recover

It's just that, if this tower landlords had respected all fire regulations and put all the money needed into making sure this tower was safe....the stay put policy wouldn't have been a problem. Hell, A building (especially a tower like that!) isn't supposed to catch on fire in 8 minutes.

Yes it reminded me of the sewol tragedy. Only those who went against orders to stay put survived. There's lessons to be learned in those tragedies

It was a tragedy. May all who died rest in peace. In relation to the lift, you're not supposed to use one in a fire anyway, just a little tip incase you every need to know! Stay safe!

@@ella-rose7866 one girl did escape using the lift but she forgot her grandfather behind

Rosco Pico I never meant poor as in penniless I meant poor people as in it's so sad and devastating. I'm quite confused as to why you'd think I meant anything else,I'll apologise if you misunderstood but my heart breaks for these poor people involved in such devastating circumstances.

Rosco Pico I hope there is paradise for the innocent people who's lives where taken in such a horrible way,

Ignore him. He's just being a troll and/or irrational bigot in general on these comments (I'm a white Brit, and he strikes me as an attention-seeker). He might have been hinting at his irrational belief (not supported by actual fact) that immigrants are given piles of money each, or that they somehow deserved their fate. He also seems to think all immigrants living there were Muslims, which is not the case. The reality is, the residents were some of the poorest in society - hence why their years of concern about fire-safety in public housing were ignored. The racist plonkers might go on about how a 'white man' wouldn't start a fire like this, but they ignore all the fires white Brits start every day. The difference, is this building had unlawful cladding on it, which made the fire get out of control so quickly. Perhaps the racists could examine their logic - if immigrants were so 'rich', they would not be living in such a poor area, in such dangerous conditions.

Crazy Hai thankyou for your comment, I'm also British (Scottish) and felt maybe this person wanted an argument or something, I did feel uncomfortable with his comments and plan to ignore any comments that make me feel as his did. I wish you well crazy hai🙂

Thank you, Chandra, for ur comment. My best wishes to u also :)

They’ve been moved indoors as fire escape stairwells. Outdoor fire escapes are pretty useless.

I'm not in the UK but just the social media after the fire made it very clear it was much more than 80 dead. I read accounts from firefights of multiple flats filled with 30+ people. If they found 4 flats with those numbers it already puts them over 80, and they found many more than 4 flats filled with remains.

400+ people were killed, LFB found 42 people in one room

I totally agree

Peace be upon you who lost your friend, peace be upon your friend.

Bless Up

So sorry to hear that 👼🙏💜

Thanks

Khaled Reaper im so sorry

Rosco Pico "How" Try reading the 1st statement you posted you absolute moron!

Rosco Pico Well that's just tough shit! Because we have been doing it for years ! So I suggest you learn to accept it or emigrate yourself.

Rosco Pico fucking devil

Fa Cn Won't disagree with you on that!

Rosco Pico I'm a white Brit, not politically 'correct', and I do have concerns about immigration when it's uncontrolled. But logically, u r not very bright if u think this situation was created by 'immigrants'. If u check ur facts, u would be aware that a) Predominantly white investment bankers created the recession that involved austerity cuts, which most likely were the major cause of the poor fire safety in this building. b) Overall, immigration brings in more taxes than it costs. If u check the research overall (compared to whatever bigotted news/rumour source u use), u wld know that. So basically, if the immigrants weren't there, there wld be even less public money available. Therefore, with those two facts, u cannot logically blame immigrants for this. I don't give two hoots if the guy whose fridge caught fire, was an immigrant or not. If it hadn't have been him, it would have been someone else eventually in this tower (immigrant or Brit), who dropped a fag, or fell asleep with candles burning. That happens routinely every day around the country. U also can't expect laypeople (immigrants or Brits) to have enough technical knowledge, to know a fridge is potentially dangerous - u think he WANTED his flat to burn?! The problem was most likely AUSTERITY, which led to the council (who do have an understanding of risks in building) putting cheap cladding on the building, making it go up like a torch. As the fire brigade say, normally they wld have got it under control quickly.

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•Euphorica• 😂😂😂

the man with the green cortina I agree 100%

Rosco Pico Really. .i certainly don't agree with you and your bull💩

Ivan Hardon it’s not fake

@@bigbeatyswollocks4859 come on stop making jokes

What's ur point? They were there in 6 mins, and within another 2 mins, it had reached the 18th floor. U expected one unit to deal with 14 floors of fire in 2 mins?

It was the cladding. The stupid council who decided to put cladding on put flammable cladding on so it could spread easily

Hi Crazy Hai, looked at the vid after 1 year. from the 4th to the 18th in 8 minutes ! .... I meant - that the fire brigades - and many of the residents had no chance. And I was still am shocked about HOW QUICKLY the fire spread even in the beginning. Such insulation fires had happened before (never with such catastrophic outcome). So the architectcs or planners SHOULD have known ! The command of the firebrigades likely realized it at a time when it was too late to savely evacuate. And given that the building had only ONE staircase (not wide!) it would have been also a nightmare to evacuate. (never mind it was complete negation of the usual policy that keeps people safe). Many people at that time asked themselves why the firefighter had to not evacuated. I think they had a very, very narrow window of time where that would have looked like a halfway safe solution. And they were confronted with a completely new situation so when they realized WHAT was going on they had the choice between 2 terrible scenarios. The fire could creep into the house from the outside - so not only would they have had hundreds of people rushing down the staircase while the firebrigades try to GO UP and with all the equipment. some people instinctively acted against the stay put policy (or did not even know it) and in this case it saved their life. But of course they profited from the fact that not everybody ran down at the same time. The staircase quickly filled with smoke and became a death trap too. this was social manslaughter.

irwan_ tpg The old cladding on the building was switched out for this non fireproof one. Nearly £300,000 were saved in the process.

When they renovated the building they used flammable cladding

@@ryadhasanahmed5443 really? I can not belive! Untill today is anyone responsible for using that?

@@madjomaskon6226 there are about 300 apartment buildings around the UK that currently have the same cladding

@@madjomaskon6226 Nope, four years later and no one has been held accountable. As if the flammable cladding wasn't enough, the public inquiry also listed these issues: Multiple fires were allowed to spread because of combustible materials by the windows and within the cladding system. Whilst attempts had been made to construct fire stopping compartments within the cladding, they were "installed incorrectly, and no evidence has been provided that they were ever tested for performance in the type of cladding installed at Grenfell Tower," the report said. -Flat entrance doors were non-compliant with fire test evidence and doors going to the stairs "do not appear to have been upgraded since installation in 1972" -The ventilation system - which was meant to prevent smoke from entering the stairwell - did not appear to work as intended -Issues with fire lifts meant they could not be used to transport equipment or residents up and down the building -The fire service had to pump its own water into Grenfell Tower - the building's "dry fire main" system was "non-compliant" with guidance at the time of construction and is "non-compliant with current standards" A complete man made disaster to save money. Horrible.

@@ykMMD thas bullshit IDIOTS

Mei-Mei Dunlop same what road do u live i live on Latimer road

Alida N They all tell a different story I don't believe them anymore. I think that they lie about many things.

There were still people alive and trying to escape *_12 hours_* after the fire started, Many people spoke of "things" blocking the stairs and there was zero visability. Those "things" turned out to be *dead bodies.* Without being able to see what you were stepping on you might mistake them for suitcases.

I WOULD OF SAVED MY PET CHIHUAHUA .YOU NEVER KNOW HE COULD SAVE MY LIFE 1 DAY...

Alida N What a stupid comment to make. .he said that he was telling himself it was clothes to keep his nerve. .he knew he was standing on dead people!

Alida N why did people not leave straight away?

please give more information

Aadam Hajat it wasn't badly built. It was made reinforced and to remain standing after the partial collapse of Ronan Point towerblock in the 1960s, and to contain flames. The containment parts were drilled and comprised during the renovation of Grenfell.

Aadam Hajat materials not stronger then concrete for all the people who are saying about 9/11. I know this because my bro lives in grenfell tower (Paul Menacer) hes alive, and my mum has been helping since the day to now. Also i live on latimer road and my sis goes to KAA.

The World Trade Center towers probably would not have collapsed if it weren't for the fact that, you know, they both had gaping multi-floor plane sized holes in them. You try punch a 7-10 storey hole in a skyscraper and see how long it remains standing.

They did

Benjamin Shepherd just stfu

Bro wtf is that comment

From the public inquiry: Multiple fires were allowed to spread because of combustible materials by the windows and within the cladding system. Whilst attempts had been made to construct fire stopping compartments within the cladding, they were "installed incorrectly, and no evidence has been provided that they were ever tested for performance in the type of cladding installed at Grenfell Tower," the report said. -Flat entrance doors were non-compliant with fire test evidence and doors going to the stairs "do not appear to have been upgraded since installation in 1972" -The ventilation system - which was meant to prevent smoke from entering the stairwell - did not appear to work as intended -Issues with fire lifts meant they could not be used to transport equipment or residents up and down the building -The fire service had to pump its own water into Grenfell Tower - the building's "dry fire main" system was "non-compliant" with guidance at the time of construction and is "non-compliant with current standards" The stay put policy was applied because it is the appropriate response for a fire in a high rise. It usually works pretty well when....all the fire safety regulations are met and inforced. Which wasn't the case. Did you listen to the video? The fire spread to the top flour in 8 minutes! This is not supposed to happen. Obviously this is fucking horrible, but the 911 responders followed the procedure that isn't a problem usually. Those poor people oh my god.

You shouldn't be joking about this, people lost their lifes because of this.

@@mishagaming2800 no jokes

@@vekzus7002 it was a fridge

Doesn't take a chef to say a soup is bad. What kind of comment is that lol?

Its not like the UK ever does any stories on things that happen in America or anything like that…

Right

Rosco Pico ; how did the fire start? They have time to run out from the building. If it start from one complex. That means someone must have start a fire n quickly went up. Only couple of people made it out.

gene vulaca the cladding spread to quick to escape and many people were asleep io eating for ramadan

Short answer massive violation. Long answer cladding on the outside was highly flammable and gave off toxic flumes as it burn. There was no sprinklers or no fire alarm in the building. There was only stair well down which was supposed to be fire proof didn't no have fire doors coursing it to act like a chimney funneling smoke. (Residents had been warning of all of these faults for quite some time) Also Issues with access to the road preventing fire engines getting closer, water pressure issue on the night and faulty gas pipes within the tower didn't help but let's be honest I think we can all see as soon as that cladding went up the people on high floor sadly never had a chance.

Show me footage of even a single fema camp.

The fridge started the fire, but the cladding was what caused it to spread up the building with such speed. So both the faulty wiring and the cladding is the fault of the local authority who ignored residents’ concerns for years.

I'm all for more regulations not less, don't put words into my mouth grandma!

Yeah actually let's do exactly that

Yeah, nothing really morbid about a horrific fire that spread rapidly killing so many…🙄

Ricardo Vincenty only the Americans are

Well yes and no the faulty eletric circuit bored caught alight and travelled up the wires into the fridge and blew it up

@@Zackislivid say that again but in clear cuz i dont understand what u mean

@@AdujTheMultiCrafter basicly, the circuit wen't up the board, and into the fridge, it then egnited the fridge gas, and then lit on fire, the fire then caught on the cladding, witch spread to other flats.

@@Zackislivid wow you make me think you saw it there

@@AdujTheMultiCrafter no but I work with electricity, I make electric impulse projectile launchers.

Gareth Leyland WTF WTF ARE YOU SAYING? ARE YOU STUPID? HOW DARE YOU? YOU STUPID SON OF A BITCH! Their God do you serve God apparently not you self righteous piece of filth.

Tyler Storm Troll !

There were people of all different religous/spiritual beliefs in that building.

davy hayzy They didn't have fire alarms for them not to work.The residents had only standard smoke alarms

davy hayzy African people👍👌👌

You all bitches should shut the fuck up. This is not something you make fun of. Babys and little kids died in that building and familys are still hurt.

Rosco Pico give your real name little bitch.

Rosco Pico give your instagram or facebook.

VILE

What an utterly ridiculous statement to make!

jayjays18152 What do you mean "depend" on social housing? And "pay for it yourself " ?

Rosco Pico Erm. .not to me!

jayjays18152 I can see the privileged life you've lead with the words you write. I guess your ignorance and luxury keeps you warm at night; you should try and keep in My that many people in the world have much less than you.