Im from Vienna and I was never confused by this... now I am because I thought about it....

well at least they numbered the subway in order...... oh wait

i am 53 and have spent all of these years right here in vienna never wasted a thought on the number of trams

"Always been like that, stays like that." Most Austrian sentence ever.

We (Austrians) built a fully functioning nuclear power plant only to forbid nuclear power before it went operational. We might just be this stupid

we people actually don’t really care about the tram system lol... We just take the tram we need without thinking “why is it actually called ‘...’ “

I was going to take a nap but then I saw you uploaded and I was like "Well I guess I gotta learn the Viennese Tram System now"

"Always been like that, stays like that" - welcome to austria the land of the suderer

0:41 "The emperor is stupid" (Hungarian) Gave me a smile! :D

List of things I would've never thought about but now know.

I'm here to tell you- my father has been a tram driver in Vienna for over 15 years, and he also doesn't understand the naming system! So no worries, even the insiders don't know what's going on LOL!

"But a little grouching always feels good" A message to take away Indeed.

I am a Tramdriver in Vienna. And there is a little bit more to the number system. But in the overall you are right. Nice Video

you should have chosen an easier subject to explain like Quantum physics

I watched a 4 minute video on the numbering system of tram lines in Vienna at 11:00pm and it was surprisingly interesting.

This summed up 2 parts of Viennese culture perfectly. 1) always was like that always stays like that 2) always have something to complain about

0:40 "a császár hülye". Nice Easter egg man!

"its all plumjam to me" got me hahahahaha

I live in Vienna for 20 years and didnt know why it was like that.

I'm Hungarian and I love what you did at 0:41

I am from vienna. And genuinely never thought of that. And i live here for 20 fucking years now

For Austrians and daring non-German speakers, here's the video in Austrian Dialect: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/r7qnaMmltLjJh6s.html Also, to be clear, I'm not saying the Viennese tram network is confusing, but the way trams are numbered is. Public transport in Vienna as a whole is actually amazing.

There are many confusing things in the world, but Viennas public transportation system is one of the simpliest in the world.

The Stockholm Metro is similarly designed. There are 3 "main" lines: Green, Red and Blue with 7 "branch" lines in total: 10, 11, 13, 14, 17, 18 and 19. Lines 13-19 are from older tram lines and are on the older Red and Green "main" lines. In 1975, when the Blue Line (the only line that wasn't based off of older tram lines) opened, the Red and Green Lines had the numbers 13, 14, 15, 17, 18, 19, 24, 27, 28 and 29 (Lines 15, 24, 27, 28 and 29 were for fill-in lines), much more than today's 13, 14, 17, 18 and 19, so they wondered what the Blue Line should be called. At the time, it only had one branch, so it would then be logical to name it 16 and 26 (the latter one for the fill-in line), but they instead named it 10 and 20. It changed again when another branch if the Blue Line opened and the numbers were changed to 10 and 11. Also, now we have the problem with the currently under construction Yellow Line. What's it gonna be called? I suggest 15 and 16, but that's just me...

Its not complicated unless you are deppad

Some additional interresting facts: The lines 1 and 2 used to be ringlines clockwise and counterclockwise around the Ring. Only in 2008 they became through-lines. With the radial lines: The 20ies lines both run solely on the north side of the river danube. The line 30 does as well but it is just a shortened line 31. There is a local train, which runs from Vienna to Baden. Within those two cities the trains run on tramway tracks, outside of the towns the line runs like a train, with no stopping at trafic lights and even freight traffic. There is a small part, Feldgasse in Guntramsdorf, that is oficially a railway and not a tramway track but runs on the street. In this road even freight trains pass through.They use regular tramway vehicles but with less doors, more comfortable seats. Interrestingly the line uses three different voltages on the journey. Even though in Vienna, that line shares the same tracks with regular tram lines, the line is operated by a different company. In the abbreviation for the line, that is also shown on signs or train direction indicators is WLB, meaning Wiener Lokalbahn (Vienna Local Train).

I think you should definitely make more content regarding vienna. Hardly anyone does and if they do their quality hardly matches yours

Im from Vienna and i didn't know that it works like this😂 thank you. But I think most peiple in Vienna dont know this

3:33 This is absolutely austrian. "Always been like that. Stays like that" - No need to change anything.

As a person living in Austria, its quite simple

lmao a császár hülye really caught me off guard

Tangential lines were numbered in the 1907 systematically from inner to outer. 1: Ring. 2: Zweierlinie. 3,4: Fasangasse, Ungargasse, Pilgramgasse. 5,6,7: Kaiserstraße, Reinprechtsdorferstraße, Gudrunstraße. 8: Gürtel. and so on. 12/14 were the train station round lines. 15: Wienerberg. 16: Stadlau. 17: Leopoldau. 13: Extended line number 3. 18: Extended line number 8.

Then I would like to introduce you to the Miway bus system in Mississauga, Ontario: 107 S goes to Islington Station. 107 N goes to Meadowvale Town Centre. But 107N goes west from Islington on the transit way and then north on the Winston Churchhill Blvd to Meadowvale. A year later, I got confused between Vienna and Vösendorf.

Same in Amsterdam. There used to be 25 tram lines. Now some are gone, some became buses. Line 15 is a bus, line 19 a tram. Yet there are also bus lines called numbered like 314. Ow and the metro is Line 50 till 55 (because why not??). Renumbering also get the same 'butbutbut my line number!!!' nostaligia suckers (they tried to do it when the new metro line opened in 2018, but didn't go through sadly).

Just in case anyone needs translation at 0:41 What's written there is a hungarian sentence meaning the emperor is an idiot

"It's all plum jam to me!" - you just made my day, mate! :)

Wusste gar nicht das du deutsch sprichst Probs bro, Grüße aus Wien Penzing

Powidl. Großartig.

Where has this been all my life? Great video!

0:42, Lol, i like that easter egg

great channel, great topics. please make more!

Nice video, I always look forward to your new videos

3:33 also don‘t forgrt that the trams 25, 26, 33, 52, 58, 60 and 67 also need to be renamed as they aren‘t „radial“ But yeah except for those and about 200 other exceptions this makes total sense🤙🏼

Good to know! Love these videos about Austria. Keep it up!

I have no idea what the hell that was.... I feel like a tram just hit me and I have no idea what the number.... Letter... Nope... Ouch medic!!!

Sad but true story: I'm German and always watch the English version of your videos as the Wiener Version is completely incomprehensible if you're not used to that dialect :D

At least the subway numbers aren't weird... U5 intensifies

"always been like that, stays like that" yet smoehow the "J" was changed to the "2"

Who prefers the old announcements (two tone chime and Franz Kaida's voice) on Wiener Linien?

I love system here in Wrocław, Poland. Trams are oneortwodigit, buses has three. 7 in beginning means temporary, so 710 is temporary sililar to line 10. 1xx are regular, 2xx are night buses. Letters are for faster bus lines (omits some stops on the line).

We use a simple three-digit number code system for our bus lines from 1 to 999, until we expanded our transit system to have 1020 bus lines. Now we have letter plus numbers, number plus description, letter plus numbers plus description, and some buses straight up don't have a code anymore.

My brain is like : *i have no idea wtf is happenin but it's cool*

Jaaaa! Bei 3:56 der gute alte Gong! Wie sehr ich die alten Ansagen von Franz Kaida vermisse

Don’t forget Lokalbahn Wien-Baden.

2:11 The Universal S is everywhere!

Very glad to hear they're keeping the D tram the D tram.

Legend says the guy who named Windows versions was in charge here. Like 1, 2, 3, 3.1, 95, ME...

Its nice seeing other people from Vienna trying to explain this to others :D. At this point i have a lot of them memorized... but theres so many its hard to get them all!

I mean... all public transport numbering systems are kinda wacky, you just sort of have to know where they go, no matter how the system really works

I couldn't care less about Vienna's tram system but TapaKapa's videos are good enough that if he made one, I could watch a 3 hour tutorial on how to toast bread and still be entertained.

Such high Quality videos:)

A very interesting video. Thanks for uploading.

3:43 Hahaha "is doch powidl" :D Nice job!

Lol I was't expecting a "Császár hülye" writing on the wall (The kaiser/emperor is stupid)

Where I life, the trams start with 7__ and the tubes start with U7_

In Paris,The lines are names like this: 1 2 3a(Future loop line) 3b(Future loop line,where both will be connected to each other) 4 5 6 7 8 9

hahahah ich lieb den powidl :D schönes video, genau kompliziert genug

Dude, as a Viennese.. I am confused too! Great video!

A little griping always feels good. Well said.

Love the videos m8👊🇬🇧

really nice video!

I live in Tokyo, and I'm confused af by all of this, just number the lines from 1 starting in the center and move out from there, done. And if you want to make it even easier for tourist, just add colors.

Oooo now I get it. I remember being randomly in the gift shop in the middle of Karlsplatz buying Mozartkugel and listening to chill song about Straßenbahn and wondering why the hell somebody did a song about traffic... Thank for closure =D

Love the video!

Good videos xo

haHA, I guessed you were austrian! Especially from that video about your time zone idea, but I thought you were just being memey.

lol! i lived in vienna for 26 years but just now I understand the tram naming :D great video & thx

Another good video :D

I am from Vienna and never knew this o.O Thanks for the Video which is funny too

Great video, and yeah have some natural engagement since you really need it.

This is also not only for English speakers interesting, I am self from Vienna🇦🇹 and I never ever knew it, it is very interesting what my city's tramway system is like. 👌

I live in Singapore. We don't have as many lines as Vienna but their namings are misleading as hell. We have the East-West line that goes from the east to the west which is fine, then we we have the North-South line that goes to the west, North-East line that goes to the south, Circle line which does not go in a circle and Downtown line whoever know what Downtown means...

ok so I'm actually in Vienna right now and youtube suggested me this video ^^ handy knowledge

02:10 "BPÖ" Austrians get it

lovely video

Problem happens when you need to divert, change, deactivate or start new lines. If you had 30 tram lines and then 25, you can't change the numbers really because people get used to the idea of "I can take that 17 to get to the botanical gardens" and it takes time. In my city, we have like 10 empty spots in tram numbers for trams that last existed some 20 years ago and they prefer to add new numbers as to not confuse people (but some lines got reactivated after 18 years with small route change and apparently that's for the best)...

When you can explain us the retter linen busses I finally understand my home fully.

Can you make a video abut the USTRAB?

0:41 yes, the emperor is an idiot as the hungarian writing says on the wall

wi gut, dass man die videowiedegabe auch verlangsamen kann 😅

Well that’s nice to know right after I left Vienna🙄

You can’t use confusing to describe anything that even my mum understands.

In my city to make bus numbers they do it in a way that shows which interchange does that line go to (mosly, you cna't make it perfect). For example (I might miss a few lines.) (Lines that terminate are written): Interchange 1: 6, 9, 16, 19, 29, 290, 53, 67, 68, 90. Interchange 2: 2, 3, 3A, 4, 7, 11, 28, 280, 43 Interchange 3: 29, 290, 30, 31, 32, 34, 35, 35R, 38, AU2 Interchange 4: 1, 21, 30, 31, ME, 1V, 2V (V: Tram) End stop 1: 12, 22, ME End stop 2: 2, 20 Lines 5, 15 and 6, 16 go on similar paths.

put up with it for the beautiful vintage rolling stock

I live in Vienna and i don‘t get confused but still some things i didn‘t so good video👍🏻

In Jakarta, new bus routes would be numbered according to the parent "corridor" it intersects/go through ex: Line 6C and 6E go to Corridor 6 so technically it's part of Corridor 6, that also apply to routes that didn't use the BRT lanes like 5F that goes to Tanah Abang since it ends in Kampung Melayu, Terminus for Corridors 5,7,11 For suburban routes they use the initial letter of the Town they go to while numbering is pretty random

*Why am I watching this?* I mean, it's not like I ever go there...

was there a couple of time and it was really easy to navigate if u can think a little..

I am from Vienna and I have found a detailed explanation of the numbering system with all the old lines that are nonexistent anymore (we had many more) as a PDF and in German. I must say it was much more confusing still it has/had a system to it once you get it sorted out.

Vienna is probably in the running for biggest network by total number of tram stops. Trust the Austrians to come up a system for everything even if one is theoretically not needed. 3:56: I really hope when I come to Vienna I can still find the comically deep male tram voice. Wien ist wohl im Rennen fuer das groeszte Netzwerk um Gesamtzahl Straszenbahnhaltestellen.