Bought a semi auto AK47 at the store here in CALI back in the 80s before the ban for 300 bucks VS the Ranch Rifle that was 450 still have the ranch rifle sold the AK wish I had kept it still have the Ruger

@@Jefferson66019 Had a Ruger Ranch Rifle myself. I had problems on occasion with jamming... usually when needing to be cleaned. Didn't find it as trustworthy as my SKS.

@@mr.b3837 the the AK I had the same thing some mags were better than others but still would jam once I was getting comfortable ..now stop clear the jam continue became the norm but like I said mostly the cheap Mags not the gun itself...not worth keeping being so cheap but now I cannot even own one in Cali so..The Ruger you do have to clean and clean or it will malfunction but I never fire it all that much so I have been lucky...I dont use the big mags at the range here I am afraid I will get in trouble so I go to AZ for that

@@Jefferson66019 I moved from Cali before some of the more restrictive laws were in place. My buddy brought his guns for me to hold until he can make a move up here in Oregon. So far, we are doing better than Cali as far as gun laws in the more conservative So. Oregon counties.

@@mr.b3837 yup...The taxes on our home keep going up its going to be...bye bye CALI hello anywhere else been here all my life to just a mess

My liver couldn't take that much booze and my patience the old man hurumphing; I get enough at gunshows.

"I remember back when you could walk into your local gun shop and buy a crate of SKS's and a thousand rounds of ammo for a wooden nickel! Did I mention the clerk would also throw in a free shoe shine? Not to mention he'd jack you off just for being a loyal customer. Life sure was different before the ban. Now, if anybody's interested in purchasing a Type 56, just PayPal me $900. I know what I've got."

Haha, I'm one of "those people"

+bornfuct Haha, yep, both of my AKMs ( a Chinese MAK 90 and Romanian made Romak, both used at purchase and still reliable and function with narry a hiccup, and they still run great ), along with a Chinese Norinco SKS copy I bought in the early 90s, all for a song ( which saved me a good deal of money to buy chest rigs, surplus ammo, and extra mags and see which I like best ). I keep an AK at my bedside and Glock 21 on my nightstand. It's crazy how much they've gotten to be. Someone is offering me a good deal on a Yugoslavian M-70, which means that I will soon have 3 AKs, which calls for another Tac vest/chest rig for it. I'm looking at the SSO/SPOSN machine gunner's belt/harness/ruck/PKM pouches ( which should hold 5 or 6 30s in each PKM box pouch ) rig. Does anyone have experience with or own a setup like that? If so, would you recommend that rig for someone that loads "ammo heavy"? I'm aware the mags will rattle in those big PKM pouches and will be heavy, but I'm willing to let them rattle ( and the weight of the mags can get scarily light during contact and shooting your way clear if you encounter a superior force ) if the rig and it's MOLLE attachments will allow me to carry the ammo/mags, meds bags, trauma kit, vacuum sealed ammo to reload magazines, and field gear to keep me sustained for a day or two ( since it does come with a small, MOLLE knapsack. I figure that I could load it with things like paracord, an extra LED flashlight, headlamp, meds bags, trauma/bleeder's kit, extra ammo, a couple MREs, extra pair of sofies, canteens, Esbit, fire bag, tarp, poncho, and so on ).

Drinks are on me, because I bought an SKS, in Viet Nam, for $60 in 1972. I got it from a Green Beret. It looked like it was dug up, and wiped down before I got it. The only ammo I could get here, in 1973, was from Norma.

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matt nelson what? Sks is the best...

SKS is a solid rifle.

The Chinese used it as their main rifle for decades. They preferred it over the ak because it was better suited to their form of warfare.

I'd feel just about as good with an sks as with an ak as long as it had the larger mag

Not easy to find a “dirt cheap” Soviet (Russian) SKS for quite a few years now (unless you’re in Canada)... even the Chicom ones are north of $300 if you’re lucky... years ago, yea, you could get a dirt cheap SKS. Unless you’re talking Tula or Wolf ammo, there isn’t anymore cheap ammo either... the day’s of cheap crates of ammo are gone too...

@@JoeyP322 Cabellas is a Canadian company

It is inferior. Theres a reason why it was ditched for the AK. But that DOES NOT mean it is ineffective

@Dani Al In USA, businesses have not been allowed to import for commercial sale to ordinary people any Chinese made rifless or even most Chinese ammunition since 1993. That is why our prices for pre ban NORINCO rifles are ridiculously high. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norinco#Trade_disputes_with_the_United_States

Stripper feeding allows you to "Top Off" and is a continuous, repetitive process whereas mag feed requires the stop to load the mag, breaking cadence.....also, the AK cannot be stripper loaded.

I shot my brother-in-law's SKS...seemed well made. Had a hang fire...slammed bolt forward, weapon discharged. Bullet went into 12" X 12" beam. Quietly gave rifle back to owner.

@@xzqzq there's something I'm realizing about these stories. It's usually someone who buys and SKS and drive straight to the range or, they're firing somebody else's rifle when they have the slam fire phenomenon. I know it's possible. So I never chamber around indoors. However, maybe that's the difference every time I buy an old milsurp rifle I go through it clean and maintain it. That was one of the things I did on my SKS every time I bought one. Lubed up the bolt made sure the firing pin was not stuck in the forward or rear position. I wouldn't let that discourage you from owning one however you could build a cheap AR for the price of a good SKS nowadays

@@jonesperkins1382 The only current military-caliber rifles I have shot & liked - Ruger Mini-30, in 7.62 X 39, kind of upgraded M-1 Carbine, and friend's Moisan-Nagant, which put the bullet where I aimed, and I attempted ( unsuccessfully ) to buy on the spot. Loved 7.62 X 25 Tok, in friend's CZ-52...and of course my Mausers, which I told the wife to put in the casket with me !

George Ulicny easy fix, when cleaning the rifle shake the BCG and make sure the firing pin is loose and always make sure the pin is not protruding when racking your first round at the range.

@@jonesperkins1382 Yeah, but I would prefer the more reliable and more powerful SKS, even with it's 10 round capacity, to even the best AR-15 with 30 round mags since I know how to shoot ( not saying the other guy doesn't, but I generally don't miss ) and would rather my rounds that connect to put a threat on his ass and keep him there until I can call 911 ( which, given the remoteness of my house, it would probably be 20 minutes until the cops showed up. I have to be responsible for our safety here ). Heck, I'd prefer any of my WW2 bolt actions, a .30 U.S. M1 Carbine, or my 30-30 lever action Winchester carbine to a jam-prone, high powered .22. I would also carry a 7 or 8 round mag, nice quality 1911 in .45 ACP to a 15 or 18 round 9x19 mm any day. If there is an intruder and I had to act quickly, with a choice of my Series 80 Colt 1911 or the greatest "wonder 9" on the market to arm myself with in a hurry and grab to confront said intruder, the 1911 is easily my choice. My SKS is a Chinese Norinco copy with a spike bayonet and it has always performed excellently. I've never had a slam fire, or any malfunction. You are right on about field stripping and cleaning milsurp ( or any used gun, such as you might buy at gun shows ) before putting a gun into rotation. I know a guy that has a nice gun collection and he doesn't even think of maintaining them. I tell him "bro, you really need to keep these maintained and lubed". Such advice generally falls on deaf ears. It's sad because he's got some really nice, cool guns and they will be rusted solid by the time his son inherits them

Thank you for your service.

It's actual big brother was the PTRS-41. The SKS is essentially a PTRS downsized to use the 7.62X39 cartridge instead of the 14.5X114. It would be more appropriate to compare the SKS to the SVT when discussing a precursor as opposed to the Mosin.

@Eric Zombrow We are only friends to communists when they need us and there are bigger threats than us.

@@TrungNguyen-cr1nk Well, what can I say? In geopolitic, there are no forever friend or foe, just *national benefit* . ;)

Nocturnal Recluse who you arguing against?

@@TrungNguyen-cr1nk wow , it really rare when some Vietnamese know what was really happenned

I am living in Vietnam, and I am one of those people known as Viet Cong. And I agree with your thoughts. With what I know about the Vietnam War, I believe that when choosing Communism, Uncle Ho did not see it as a destination, but only as a way for Vietnam to have the resources to fight the division. separating, opposing those who use force to oppress the people, dividing territories, the only way to unify the country and liberate the people. that's why there was a period when the Communist International considered Uncle Ho not a true communist but a nationalist and isolated Uncle Ho. For Vietnamese people, any regime is fine, as long as the country must be independent, the people must be peaceful and prosperous and the people must be free - that is, they have the right to decide their own destiny. From ancient to ancient times, any person who violates these things will all Vietnamese people will resist, one person will fall down and another will stand up until his new success. and in that period, with the situation at that time, communism was the most appropriate choice or it could be said to be the only one to regain independence for the nation. and until now the reality has proved that choice is correct, otherwise the country of Vietnam is no different from North Korea and South Korea today.

Which is better

I saw several Nagants in this video.

I got some ass salt for you

richard cutts plenty of designers did, the generals didn’t.

Even before WWII, American designers understood that a 6.5 or 7mm cartridge with less recoil was desirable for the self loading infantry rifles being developed. Google on .276 Garand- kzfaq.info/get/bejne/d92ep72HrtW0oH0.html But budgets, Douglas MacArthur, "fighting the last war" mentality, the Ordnance Dept. and Springfieled arsenal bureaucracies kept the 30-06 for the Garand and then mismanaged the post WWII development to saddle USA and NATO with the over powered, excessively recoiling 7.62x51select fire rifles we wasted our time and money on in the 50s and 60s.

Carry a 14 in actual combat and laugh at any other "battle rifle" .

@@QuantumMechanic_88 What years were you in Vietnam?

@@QuantumMechanic_88 try to fire a m-14 on full auto and try to figure out where the bullets went.

+Gale Sams Had I been in Vietnam ( or even in the military now in Afghanistan ), I would have shouldered my M-16 as soon as I found a dead enemy with a good AK with plenty of extra mags ( replenishing my ammo when I came across dead enemy ) and use that AK. Was that allowed when you were in the service or would you get chewed out for picking up AKs? I've always wondered if that was allowed. I don't like the jam prone, high powered .22 ( 5.56 ) and rifles built on the AR-15 frame. The AK in 7.62x39 mm is my top choice for rifle, the .45 ACP for pistols ( I don't care for 9 mm, especially the Beretta M92FS ). I bought an M9 in the 90s and, in addition to being ( IMO ) a weak, under-powered and puny "maybe" round ( maybe it will neutralize the threat, maybe he still keeps shooting ), after I would put a couple 15 round, factory mags on targets with it the gun would start into a series of stoppages that would cause it to jam about halfway into a mag ( and I take care of my guns and use factory mags ). I just got the M92FS because of it being U.S. military ( and many police departments' ) standard pistol and caliber. I figured if SHTF happened, it would be easy to find extra rounds, mags, and parts for. Still not worth having a gun that will shoot 30-something rounds and become a bludgeoning weapon, so I had to sell it, haha

@@cthulhu6697 I’ve heard many story’s of US soldiers tossing their M16s for AKs because they found them more reliable, and everyone has a preference. I’m not sure if they got chewed out for swapping weapons but if I had to guess I would say no. As long as you’re doing what your suppose to do, weapon you’re using shouldn’t matter

The round works, just ask the guy in Kenosha who lost his arm to it.

Loved the reply of General Giap, when asked about Vietnam war....' To which are you referring ? We have had 5 since the Americans were here '.

Come to my country and invade and we will be behind every rock, tree, and blade of grass.... for we have almost 400 million firearms of all types own by 100 million Americans.... Now which one of you foolish country gonna try and confiscate them?

@@11B30Inf nobody's going to confiscate your guns but your own government just wait for full on SWJ come to power

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My dad who spent a year June 1967 to June 1968 said "VietNam is incredibly beautiful if not for the fact people were trying to kill me."

@@daGO_BLUE That is funny , yet in a sad way.

@@daGO_BLUE I thought Afghanistan was beautiful until the first IED.

I made a comment too about "once again" being used. Who ever wrote the script is a commie loving fool. You can tell their bias.

Ahh the not so common 5.56 AK Variant's. Almost bought a Valmet in 5.56, wish I did. I am curious why you choosed to bring up 5.56 AK's and not the AK-74 being the reson for a less curved mag do to the 5.45x39 cartridge?

@@EvilClipazine Simple. The 5.45x39 also has a lot of body taper and because of that magazines for that cartridge are also curved. My point is that heavily tapered and/or rimmed cartridges require curved magazines. It really is not an issue of the AK47/74 but rather the cartridges they are chambered for. The 5.56 NATO cartridge has very little body taper and does not require as curved a magazine to function.

Peyton Mauk amen

Say hi to my ak too.

Bush( bok bak boak bok )

Yes sir. I have an assault putter propping up my window right now.

It become s a assault weapon

@@goodpeoplefound7940 lol.

+Me Nu The term "assault weapon" is a leftist, gun-grabbing liberal media scare term for military rifles and their semi-auto civilian versions ( which are officially designated "main battle rifle" by the military ). Now that it's been in common use for such a long time it no longer has the "scare factor", the gun grabbers have come up with the term "black rifle" to scare the average person, who often have little knowledge of firearms, in the hopes that people will will say something like "black rifle? That sounds serious. I don't want people running around with black rifle death blasters, let's ban them from civilian ownership". They will stop at nothing to pass anti-gun legislation

"yessireebob, that's what it means. You have assault pencils and pens, bats, sticks, rocks, paper clips, hands and a whole lot more. We should ban them all, they are scary looking..."

Type 56 with an mounted flashhyder

+Slideglide The SKS, no contest. I would take a more powerful round ( and both the round and the rifle are plenty accurate to realistic combat distances for most contact situations ). Also, Tula has been making arms and ammunition for the Russian military since the Czars were in power in the 1800s. There is something to say for a company that has been in business, doing what they do well, for that long. Tula must be doing something right.The rifles of the 1950s vintage, especially the real Soviet made weapons and not copies, are of very good quality. Plus, when are you gonna have another opportunity to get a 1950s, Cold War era, real deal Soviet SKS? As to the Mini 14, while being way more affordable and reliable than an AR-15/M-16 in my experience, it's still a 5.56 and I would rather arm myself with something more powerful, even if the Mini 14 does carry twice as many rounds. Since it's a reliable, affordable, combat-accurate rifle that is chambered in the same rounds as our ( and NATO ) standard main battle rifle, and many police SWAT/patrol rifles, I figured I should get a 5.56 in case of SHTF ( easier to loot ammo from dead military, National Guard, police, and many civilians to replenish my load ), I bought a Ruger Mini 14 and a "Flick"/FLC ( which you can get in like new shape used for $12 easily ) set up for it. The rifles are good for a 5.56, but the factory mags ( after markets are well known to jam ) are so expensive ( Ruger should have made the rifle to chamber standard M-16 mags ) that I only have 6 extra 20 round mags, plus a mag in the gun; not exactly "combat load" when you are your supply/resupply. I bought a surplus, open top, triple stacker ( 3 mags in front of 3 more for the space of 6 MOLLE loops ) which I MOLLE'd onto the left hand side at the bottom 3 rows of loops. It's at least something in 5.56 that I can load in my vehicle with all the other stuff I'd bring in case I had to "bug out" and have something I can easily replenish the rounds for in case I run low on 7.62x39 mm and .308 Winchester. That's just my opinions and my admittedly bias for the AK/SKS and against the 5.56 mm. I tried to put some facts in there to mitigate the personal biases and opinions, but what I say ought to be taken with a grain of salt in the weapons and caliber debate. Hope this helped

@@cthulhu6697 I've been working on my Mini with spring changes, cutting the barrel, polishing the action, and trigger upgrades get it as reliable and accurate as my 67 year old SKS. My next range shoot will tell the tale. Magazines are not as big an issue as claimed by many. It's usually the feed lips that need attention, and possibly better followers. Metal magazines, even the cheap ones, work fine. It just takes a little magic. Right now, the SKS is my choice, but the Mini will get there.

@@slideglide9418 I have a similar idea: buy an M1A and have a gunsmith buddy turn it into basically a SOCOM 16. You've got my trigger finger itching now, bro ;)

@@cthulhu6697 What makes the AR15, and Mini 14, is the ammunition. The doctrine in the early days of the 5.56 x 45, which still hold true today, is a .22 cal bullet hauling ass has 3 main benefits. 1) Less weight to carry 2) More rounds per pound 3) Hydrostatic wound damage Cutting down an M14 to make a SOCOM, may not help it's resale value and performance. Thanks for the Replies.

@@slideglide9418 SKS no contest at all.

We were a communist republic since 1945, after 1954 the geneva convention separate Vietnam into 2 and supposedly reunified in 1956

@@tritruongminh9941 Ok. I always thought that there was supposed to be a referendum (on unification) in the south, that was never held because the south's rulers believed they would loose. Thank you for the information.

"Communist republic" is an oxymoron.

@@judsongaiden9878 wanna introduce some freedom with napalm and Agent - Orange again? Or maybe american democracy is oxymoron too?

The M249 saw can be mag fed, is full auto and fires an intermediate round. That's the "definition" of an assault rifle. It just shows how ridiculous it is.

@@Turgz : Yep. 249 smile generator !! " Happiness is a belt-fed weapon! ".... probably said by EVERY squad machine gunner ever.

Lop-Wa ok boomer

@@Turgz The Definition of assault rifle is a rifle that is selective-fire chambered in an Intermediate cartridge with a detachable box magazine. The Rifle and selective-fire part takes the 249 SAW out of the equation. Assult weapons on the other hand is a completely made up turm from politician to try and get people to ban comen used firearms from the people. Just like when they say military style weapons or military type weapons. Weapons of war anyone? Oh and the new one one the block is assult Firearms.

@@Bootbandwarlord Whatever. As far as I'm concerned, ANY "label" and/or restriction of our rights to Keep and Bear Arms.... is an INFRINGEMENT! I don't care what politicians (or anyone else) calls them. I swore my oath over 50 years ago, and that oath STILL means EVERYTHING to me.

Yes, this bothers me too.

Norinco

+Doc Hammer The Russian 5.45x39 mm is superior to our 5.56, especially with the M855 green tip rounds we use now, that's a given. I would buy a 5.45 SKS, but the cost of 5.45 ammo would relegate it to occasional shooting ( thanks, Obama ). If societal collapse happened and the 5.45 was your only rifle, I can see you avoiding a potential gun fight even more than what the wise and prudent survivor/prepper would in the same situations. In a SHTF/WROL scenario, you would have a much harder time finding ammo to replenish your stocks as compared to 7.62x39 mm, 5.56, .308 Winchester, 30-06, even .300 Win Mag ( my personal favorite long range sniper round in 180 grain loads ), 30-30 Winchester, and .30 U.S. M1 Carbine ( a very under-rated caliber and gun, it would be a great, light, easy handling carbine that would be just about ideal for things like scouting, hit and run, run and gun, and many varied roles. It's 110 grain military loading is about like shooting someone with a .357 Magnum with the greater accuracy, bigger sight radius, more velocity, higher round count, and various advantages of a carbine above a pistol)

Funny thing is that’s not even an MP40 bud, it’s an M3 Grease Gun. RESEARCH!!!!

Right it was much more like the Garand, with it's rotating bolt.

@@denizen9998 thank you.

One key resone of the first M16's colossal failer was the issueing of the wrong ammo. The M16 was designed too use stick powder not ball powder running the system out of sink not allowing a clean extraction of spent rounds. InRangeTV explains this a little in Mud Test: Mattel Death Trap! and Small Arms Solution gose into deep detail in this video, kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hL-RpZeLy57OeGw.html

Actually, the Chinese AK and Chinese SKS are both called the Type 56. The SKS is referred to as the Type 56 Carbine, while the AK is, if I remember right, called the Type 56 Automatic rifle or something along those lines. Both were introduced into Chinese military service at the same time, in the year 1956, hence both being slapped with that particular moniker in question. Outside of Chinese military adoption, Norinco has churned out millions of both AKs and SKSs for the purpose of commercial export, so “Norinco Type 56” could still refer to either or. Long story short; one’s called a carbine, the other an automatic rifle. Silly and pedantic, I know, but hey, the more you know

@@geezy9644 do you know where the distinction 56 came from? I suppose it's the obvious one that the Chinese didn't duplicate them until 56 even though the SKS was manufactured by the Russians in 45 and the AK obviously in 47? Also how does factory 26 fit in where the Russian tooling for the SKS purchased by the Chinese ended up. I've owned one made on Chinese tooling with a pinned barrel and the fit is slightly different than the Russian models and currently own a factory 26 Norinco SKS with a threaded barrel and the fit is identical to the Russian models. Mine was purchased from a gunsmith and has a slicked up Russian trigger group. He said the only work done was to get rid of the trigger creep and no work was required for it to fit the Norinco F26 receiver. The fully Chinese one I had was cooler cause it was used in the Vietnam war and had a ton of Chinese/Vietnamese? Characters/writing on it all over and was lighter that the one from F26 but getting aftermarket mags ect always too some filing and/or other adjustments. While everything just pops right in place on the F26 model made in 59 so I kept that one Sorry for the pointless babble just like to share and learn any SKS I can

@@gerryfkno5499 Well, the Russians began producing the SKS in 1945 (Hence the name SKS-45. And likewise, with the Chinese copy, the “56” distinction comes from the year they began producing them; 1956), it was actually field tested in WW2 against the Germans on the Eastern Front in the last months of the war and was soon after adopted as the new standard issue for the Soviet military. Of course, the AK-47 was invented by Kalashnikov in 1947, and adopted as the new standard issue Soviet rifle in 1949, relegating the SKS out of frontline service (though it still saw service in that role for a cpl years as a stopgap before there were enough AKs to issue to every soldier in every unit), and afterwards they were used by Soviet police and border guards, and it being the Cold War, thousands were put away in warehouses, along with other mothballed equipment in case things got hot with the West. But anyways; after being completely phased out of frontline service by the Russians (early to mid 1950’s), they decided to gift either the rifles or the specs and tooling to make them to allied communist nations. In 1956, China got such a shipment from them, in fact the first Type 56 rifles produced were made with Russian parts and under the guidance of Russian engineers. China loved the SKS as it fit their military doctrine; traveling light and using a guerrilla style warfare. They also gave the Chinese the specs for the AK in the same year they gave them the SKS (The Russians were working on the AKM at the time, but didn’t complete it until 1959) Now, the Russians used their AKs as a standard issue weapon, but the Chinese, even though they were making both the SKS and AK at the same time, generally only issued their AKs to NCOs and officers, in a similar way that the Americans did with their Thompson M1As in WW2. They treated it more as a submachine gun than as a rifle, used to provide covering fire for the SKSs, which would lay down single, well aimed shots at their targets. At the moment I own 4 SKSs, one a Yugoslavian M59/66, and the other 3 are all Chinese Type 56, they were all made in the mid to late 1960’s, in the Jianshe Arsenal at Factory 26. I also own an original Type 56 AK, underfolding stock, made in 1967

@@geezy9644 thank. Great info and nice collection. All o can find around home are the Yugos and despite having a good reputation I was turned off by the weight and lack of a chrome lined barrel. Kicking myself now of course, wish I would have bought every one I've ever seen the way prices shot up when Obama was threatening to ban so called"assault weapons" I'd be rich!! Lol Even though the SKS slips through a lot of those bans because of the standard 10rd fixed mag they still quadrupled+ in price Best gun out there for the money, or at least it used to be and was definitely the best $100 I've ever spent👍👍

NORINCO Was established as North Importing Company after 1971. Before this date there was model 56 Chinese SKS.

Sure an SKS is great, but, a rifle with a detachable magazine is better. That is if you are Canadian, I understand, best rifle you can take. If you are, how I wish you guys were allowed to have an AKs and ARs.

@@detroitandclevelandfan5503 I'm an American born and raised, good sir. But I am building an Ar. But I'm just saying, if shit hits the fan now im just gonna load up my plate carrier with stripper clips and grab my Sks. You can get pretty quick at them. But I agree, a detachable magazine is better. But I hope to be shooting at more deer than ppl at the end of the world tho.

@@peterpontzer4006 I got yeah, and I'm with you on that.

Are you sure that wasn't The Chinese and Soviet war of aggression using their NVA puppets to subjugate the South Vietnamese people?