Corrupt Catholic South Vietnam. the War was lost before it started.

It certainly has for me. Vietnam molded a life our generation never seeked. Never wanted. I still haunts me.

The humiliation of Vietnam veterans was the great defeat of US in the Vietnam War

I served two tours in Vietnam but I told my two sons to go to Canada if ever drafted, because I can visit them there instead of in the grave yard. Besides maybe the president will give you a pardon, what a slap in the face.

Did the generals have any ideas beyond risking a war with China?

Fentner, said Westmoreland conducted WW2 tactics, and did not use the S V army and give them responsibility. Wish he asked tactics and SV forces, what were the alternatives?

America gave itself the right to be the father of this world. It was a mistake that cost America.

I also was a communication major psych minor. I appreciate your skillful comment skills

thats actually brilliant

Changes the question in the middle of a sentenve, sometimes answers it himself...

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All the Intel specialists *surprised Pikachu face*

Poor leadership Westmoreland 😢 and friends

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@@demolitiondaz22 you ain't a zero bud..you can spell right

It was a dirty job but somebody had to do it.

Not true that we were winning this war. Spent eight months in An Hoa, we lost control little by little.

Me too

My father flew 51 combat missions out of Italy in 1944. He was converting to a different religion when he was about 95 years old. A female pastor who was sponsoring him asked if he prayed before the missions. He said that he did not and that he didn't think it was right to ask God to have someone die in his place.

First real one for us in any semi recent time I think is what he means

@@robboss2431 WW2 had its fair share of jungle fighting.

@Suzukisan I'd be willing to bet money that the actual members of the dead who lived in the house on Haitt/Ashbury would have the utmost reapect for these men and women who served. As stated by Jerry Garcia there was brief minute when the scene was real and the wierd pwoplw really were weird before everyone caught on, started playing dress up and jumping on a bandwagon. That shouldnt devalue those who were doing much more than dressing in pretty colors, dropping acid, holding a sign and going to see the Dead- or those who ended up giving their lives in trying to tell our governemnt that they didnt believe we should be fighting in Vietnam(Im refrencing Kent State here).

Good point. The GD was never political, meaning they didn't write songs or make public opinions about the war at their concerts or recordings, like many other famous artists did in fact make bold political statements. They stayed far away from that discussion. The media hyped the San Francisco scene with "peace and love" with the "drop acid not bombs", eventhough the real :hippie movement was located in Los Angeles and London. In 1967 during "Summer of Love", LSD was still legal.

Let his comment on the media sink in. Consider President Eisenhower's admonition,"beware the military-industrial complex". Acknowledge who motivates and sustains the media. Ask yourself how the American people are expected to reason the machinations of our government.

What are they supposed to believe, what the Pentagon or the corrupt Senators tell us? Yeah sure, we can trust those who are making cash off of it LOL.

You could get drafted or enlist at 18. It was not uncommon to be in country at 19.

He stated so. No embellishment.

The fact that Americans trusted perceptions, perceptions implanted and not generated from fact, is the reason the war was abandoned. That and the point of the war was not to win anyway, but to show opposition to communism. The casualty comparison was 58,000 American dead, 200,000 South Vietnamese dead and 1.2million NVA and Vietcong dead. Getting combat experience for millions of Americans worried the Soviets for generations afterward and arguably stopped them and other communist states from causing further conflict. American deaths equal about a year and a half of traffic deaths today, maybe two years at the time. The deaths that occur in communist countries every year due to systemic inefficiency far outnumber our war dead. I dismiss thier war dead because never forget the communists invaded the South just as they did previously in Korea and they did later in other conflicts like Zimbabwe and Afghanistan.

@@wilsonedwards8189 I understand your belief in "perceptions"...as they are only as accurate as the Media that delivers them. But I won't compare the Media of that time with the BS of today. I believe the American public got a pretty good basic idea of what Vietnam was all about...the good, bad and ugly. When you listen to all these different Vietnam videos the veterans are basically backing up those "perceptions". Personally, I don't die to "show opposition to communism". Don't over-connect the dots of fighting in Vietnam to the stoppage of Communism advancement. It was an American disgrace and tragedy. NOT ONE American should have died in that conflict.

@@topgeardel You seem to assume a perception via media is how people must understand. Maybe that is how you understood, and I don't necessarily blame you, but that doesn't mean you weren't wrong. Um, this video didn't back up your perception. Neither did at least one other who also said we were winning. I've watched several and none of them stated we were losing. The numbers clearly showed we were winning, that's why I gave you them. The Vietnamese top official after the war told McNamara if we bombed for two more weeks they would have surrendered. Using your logic we should have not intervened in Korea?...oh just watch the documentary Camp 14: Total Control Zone to discover what South Korea is missing out on. Today predictably hundreds or even thousands will die in Vietnam, Cuba, N Korea due to lazy totalitarian systemic failure. Consistently they invaded, not the other way around. Do you stop an invasion by letting it happen?