Viking Women's Fashion: A (Very!) Basic Guide

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The Welsh Viking

The Welsh Viking

3 жыл бұрын

A good number of people asked me to make a video on women's clothing in the Viking age, and even though I rarely work in this realm, and haven't all that much research to my name on it, I have endeavoured to do my best!
This video is a very basic rundown of some of the evidence we have for Viking women's fashion, some of the main points to look for if you want to buy some ready made, and a few things to avoid in putting together your historical reenactment impression of a woman of this period.
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@Katherine_The_Okay
@Katherine_The_Okay 3 жыл бұрын
"I am not a primary source... I am barely a tertiary source." Statements like this are how I know I can actually *trust* someone presenting me with information.
@rachelboersma-plug9482
@rachelboersma-plug9482 3 жыл бұрын
A woman's dress is just a longer version of a man's tunic, so you've definitely got the skills. You could dress up as Thor dressed up as Freya.
@SnappyDragon
@SnappyDragon 3 жыл бұрын
I need this STAT.
@rachelboersma-plug9482
@rachelboersma-plug9482 3 жыл бұрын
@@SnappyDragon I've recently been listening to Neil Gaiman's Norse Mythology - Freya's Unusual Wedding. Highly recommend if you aren't already familiar with it.
@scouttyra
@scouttyra 3 жыл бұрын
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@scouttyra
@scouttyra 3 жыл бұрын
(and have a friend as Loki as Frejas handmaid)
@HrHaakon
@HrHaakon 3 жыл бұрын
He'd be the dude playing the dude playing the dudette.
@skjaldulfr
@skjaldulfr 3 жыл бұрын
I feel safe assuming women's belts were worn outside their dresses, for a number of common-sense reasons: hanging kit from the waist belt, getting the dress out of the way for work, looking not like a tent, and better distributing the weight of the wool dress.
@ashleejones1690
@ashleejones1690 3 жыл бұрын
When you said "I have never made any Viking women's clothing for myself" I just knew that was soon to change!😂💗 Lets all do a sew-along: apron dresses for all!
@Loweene_Ancalimon
@Loweene_Ancalimon 3 жыл бұрын
Oooooh man those pictures of a pleated apron dress ? They make my little perfection sewing heart bounce. So neat. So pretty. Plz make.
@dianesawyerdooley4424
@dianesawyerdooley4424 3 жыл бұрын
urd.priv.no/viking/kostrup.html -- really good info here
@horsenroundstudio
@horsenroundstudio 3 жыл бұрын
Right?? The first time I saw smocking on a Viking dress, my heart went all pitty-pat.
@sophroniel
@sophroniel 3 жыл бұрын
I'm very concerned if your heart is bouncing, my friend, because that's a heart attack
@systlin2596
@systlin2596 3 жыл бұрын
Right? That's basically sewing porn right there.
@zxyatiywariii8
@zxyatiywariii8 Жыл бұрын
Mine too! That's a truly awesome find -- we could make it and it's authentic!
@mayakaskinen888
@mayakaskinen888 3 жыл бұрын
How my history loving butt got here I do not know, but am I totally down with a handsome welsh Viking-man telling me about Viking fashion.
@loverofmusicality
@loverofmusicality 3 жыл бұрын
Every time I hear about Viking women's clothing, I remember that one weird historian (whose name I cannot be bothered to recall) who tried to suggest and put forward the idea that turtle broaches/oval broaches were nipple piercings. and that. Viking women would hang their wool dresses from these pins and piercings because reasons or something. I don't entirely remember what they were trying to say about it, but I still get a laugh that anyone could think that a wool dress could hang from a piercing like that and not just ruin everything in moments.
@TheWelshViking
@TheWelshViking 3 жыл бұрын
Wha... wha... no! NO! That’s appalling!
@catzkeet4860
@catzkeet4860 3 жыл бұрын
🙀”ruin everything” is right!!! Nipples included I should think. Ouch!!,
@VikingMakery
@VikingMakery 3 жыл бұрын
I haven't heard the nipple piercing thing but I have heard someone propose that the tortoise brooches were meant to go over breasts and that would make the apron dresses lower down.
@ah5721
@ah5721 3 жыл бұрын
Thats the most ridiculous thing I've heard! They are always found at the shoulders.
@TheWelshViking
@TheWelshViking 3 жыл бұрын
@@VikingMakery Wow...
@rd6203
@rd6203 3 жыл бұрын
MAKE THE DRESS! MAKE A DRESS, MODEL THE DRESS! Want to see Jimmy sew the dress, please.
@LorChampan
@LorChampan 3 жыл бұрын
a Jim & Morgan Donner collab on making twin dresses !
@rd6203
@rd6203 3 жыл бұрын
@@LorChampan YES! MAKE THE DRESSES!
@TimesmithDressHistory
@TimesmithDressHistory 3 жыл бұрын
@@LorChampan I'm totally here for that!
@lucie4185
@lucie4185 3 жыл бұрын
@@LorChampan 2 sexy potatoes together! I was wondering why he didn't mention the herjolfsnes finds, I suppose they are not "viking" by that period.
@unakamillasteinsen4817
@unakamillasteinsen4817 3 жыл бұрын
"Linen under wool" I recite, "avoid cotton" even though I've never and don't plan on making a reenactment viking age outfit for myself. That's a sign of a good video
@juliapalos2077
@juliapalos2077 3 жыл бұрын
Hahaha. Same here! Not gonna do it but it's like:"let me write it down, just in case..."
@felixc543
@felixc543 3 жыл бұрын
I'm like "oh no I'm allergic to wool, hopefully the linen keeping it off my skin will be enough to- hold on... i forgot I have no intention of doing viking age reenactments"
@chloepainter4064
@chloepainter4064 Жыл бұрын
This avice holds true for cold weather outdoorsing as well. The common saying is cotton kills (in cold weather). So thick wool layers over thinner long underwear and socks is what to wear for, say, climbing a snowy mountain or something like that. Even if you're doing no reinacting, it's still good advice.
@christinawestberg6221
@christinawestberg6221 3 ай бұрын
You could use hemp cloth instead of linen.
@ChelleLlewes
@ChelleLlewes Ай бұрын
@@chloepainter4064 It may be that, "cotton kills," because cotton absorbs moisture, but is not great at dissipating it. It will stay moist next to your skin, and in the cold, it will lower your body temperature. Linen wicks moisture away from your skin. I don't do reenactments, but I do wear only linen under my winter gear. And I never feel clammy from too much perspiration being held next to me.
@renezrael
@renezrael 3 жыл бұрын
thank you for pointing out that women were NOT treated equally, I get so annoyed when people claim that women were actually highly respected in viking culture (literally have seen someone say it's because men thought women were magic and so was math and so women controlled all the finances??)
@SifDal
@SifDal 2 жыл бұрын
Ezra, perhaps look into Icelandic history. Women ran the farms, they sent men off to fight - in fact the men couldn’t say no if the woman of the house sent off to kill a neighbour or two. I can’t stand when generalisations are made. Not all viking history is homogenous.
@PuffyRainbowCloud
@PuffyRainbowCloud 2 жыл бұрын
@@SifDal Exactly! These are people living across the entirety of Scandinavia, who made it all the way to Africa, Asia, and North America, during several centuries. It is impossible to speak for all of those people in single statements. One has to remember that at this time, people lived in small villages or farms and most people weren't necessarily very connected with the outside world. How each place looked and ran likely varied wildly.
@zxyatiywariii8
@zxyatiywariii8 Жыл бұрын
@@PuffyRainbowCloud Yes there would definitely be regional differences, even more markedly so in these times when news and travel took longer than they do nowadays. I just find it annoyingly anachronistic when people try to shoehorn modern sensitivities into earlier time periods. I'm a woman, but I know women haven't been treated as equal to men all throughout history; and that doesn't lessen my own self esteem any. 🤷🏾‍♀️
@MsBizzyGurl
@MsBizzyGurl Жыл бұрын
Life was rougher but if yo man brought back a slave or two, you could manage alright. (Less fish cleaning or wood gathering in your list of chores.)
@rebeccaholcombe9043
@rebeccaholcombe9043 Жыл бұрын
​@@MsBizzyGurl spinning. If you're sending men out sailing they need sails, and cloth takes an amazing amount of time to make. Fabric is wealth.
@vikingventures3888
@vikingventures3888 3 жыл бұрын
As a female viking reenactor - thank you for doing an evidence based video about this subject. You make many great points here, and I like that you encourage people to keep it simple and base their clothes on actual sources. I just found your channel, and will look at some more of your videos now. And also... yes, you should totally make a viking dress! :D
@FayeSterling
@FayeSterling 3 жыл бұрын
Jim...the description of the silhouette as "women's toilet" made me die omfg
@FayeSterling
@FayeSterling 3 жыл бұрын
it's true but you shouldn't say it
@zxyatiywariii8
@zxyatiywariii8 Жыл бұрын
Same 😂
@CraftyInTheory
@CraftyInTheory 3 жыл бұрын
My aversion to re-enactment clothing being made of man-made materials is primarily safety based. I love cosplay, but seeing someone get too close to an open flame, even a candle, while wearing polyester or rayon is terrifying. Please don't do it, no one wants a trip to the burn unit.
@lilysnape6520
@lilysnape6520 3 жыл бұрын
Cotton is actually aß dangerous aß Polyester. While poly-fabrics Melt Cotton, Lünen and so in burn (I try to use as much Natural Fiber aß possible for my Cosplays. Mostly Cotton and Lünen)
@luxborealis
@luxborealis 3 жыл бұрын
@@lilysnape6520 Are you okay? Seems you’ve got a bit of German in your keyboard.
@Tina06019
@Tina06019 3 жыл бұрын
@@lilysnape6520 Ma’am, cotton and linen are indeed flammable, and you are right to be cautious with them, too, but polyester (and some other synthetics) MELTS onto skin, making the burning garment difficult to remove and causing a really awful burn. (Ref: I am a doctor who has worked in trauma & emergency departments.) Besides being generally cautious around fire, tailoring one’s garments closer to the body reduces the chance one’s clothes will catch on fire. Also, loose, airy weaves are the most likely to catch on fire & burn quickly. Wool can burn, of course, but it generally smolders, and is therefore less dangerous.
@lilysnape6520
@lilysnape6520 3 жыл бұрын
@@Tina06019 that was what I actually meant.
@lilysnape6520
@lilysnape6520 3 жыл бұрын
@@luxborealis Maybe. My Smartphone doesn't like English on KZfaq
@caitlinsmith5075
@caitlinsmith5075 3 жыл бұрын
I love how you talk about the thinking and research behind reenactment and historical interpretation, instead of just a list of rules - it's really engaging and invites people in to think and learn and make their own decisions!
@TheWelshViking
@TheWelshViking 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! This is exactly what I was hoping people would feel after watching this one :D
@sarahgray430
@sarahgray430 3 жыл бұрын
My grandmother liked to dress simply and modestly in natural fibers and colours, often accentuated with jewelry and silk or woolen shawls (some of which I inheirited). In other words, she dressed more like a Viking woman than the studded leather fantasy gear they are often portrayed as wearing in the movies...and although she was only about 5 feet tall, she had ginger hair when she was young and was as fierce as any Valkyrie. Her great granddaughter resembles her in many respects, save that she will probably be taller.
@zxyatiywariii8
@zxyatiywariii8 Жыл бұрын
So cool you inherited such treasures! Your grandmother sounds like an awesome woman, it goes to show even shorter women can have a powerful presence. Also I've always admired ginger hair, it's the rarest color, and always reminds me of sunrise in autumn with the leaves in reds and golds. . .
@Happyheart146
@Happyheart146 10 ай бұрын
Pure class in my opinion. I wish more of us took this approach to our attire.
@sapphirecamui6447
@sapphirecamui6447 3 жыл бұрын
I think covering your hair has a practical aspect as well: it protects your hair from dust - useful in a time when people probably couldn't wash their hair as soon it got dirty, protects you from getting too hot from the sun (depending on color or fiber content).
@ChelleLlewes
@ChelleLlewes Ай бұрын
Isn't that also one of the reasons people braided their hair? That kept it neater, out of the eyes and mouth, and also kept it relatively clean?
@Rowan.Evander
@Rowan.Evander 3 жыл бұрын
Please, with all my heart, make the apron dress. That's the wholesomeness we need going into 2021.
@cindyrosser2471
@cindyrosser2471 3 жыл бұрын
So, no leather bustiers? Or loosely braided dredlocks? How about skin tight leather pants? Oh wait, I did see you video/rant about the costumes in The Vikings TV series. ;)
@fionafiona1146
@fionafiona1146 3 жыл бұрын
Steam punk is awesome but people acknowledge more of the creativity involved.
@canucknancy4257
@canucknancy4257 3 жыл бұрын
Yay for floofiness in a Viking lady's dress. It would be like wearing a beautifully warm blanket around your legs all the time. The brooches sound kind of like an early version of a chatelaine. Thanks for sharing. So cool. Take care. Happy New Year!
@zxyatiywariii8
@zxyatiywariii8 Жыл бұрын
They really are! I currently live far north for an American (Minnesota) and I love wearing woolen dresses all winter! So much cozier than pants. The Vikings were wise about dressing for the weather.
@edennis3202
@edennis3202 3 жыл бұрын
Years and years ago when I was in the SCA, there were many people who held that Viking apron dresses, open all the down on the sides, were not belted. That would have been both impractical for keeping you warm and dangerous for leaning over an open fire. I'm very glad to hear that you think they wore belts. I once ran across a book in the Iowa State University Library that contained an old photo of three women in traditional Scandinavian folk costume of their region, and the outer layer of all three costumes consisted of an open-sided apron dress that was belted together at the waist. Aha! To my mind, it was obviously an echo of the Viking apron dress.
@paperdreamer2043
@paperdreamer2043 3 жыл бұрын
My persona is 10th century Icelandic. I made a linen basic under tunic and a linen apron dress with side gore's. I have rabbit skin lined linen York hood for warmth and a light weight. My belt is tablet woven wool (my craft is textiles).
@Liutgard
@Liutgard 3 жыл бұрын
Married or single, covering the hair, at least with a coif or kerchief, WAS DONE. It keeps hair in place, keeps it cleaner. Modesty issues are optional. Any rational woman who cooks with open flame will cover her hair. Otherwise, do you know how fast hair burns? and what it smells like? Full on, uncovered, long hair is seen on a bride at her wedding, or a Queen at her coronation. I do Carolinigian, 780-800. Illumination? NOT a bliaut. It's the standard Frankish dress, a-line, with elbow/mid-arm trumpet or cone sleeves. It's covered with a mantle that covers the head and is pinned at the neck or on one shoulder. A bliaut doesn't appear until very late 11th c, but doesn't hit the form we associate with the term until the middle of the 12th c. (Something of a quick thumbnail on Frankish women's clothes- thin Byzantine, without the bling. A-line, yoke with the stripe down the center, band on the hem and sleeves. Use a brocade with rondels for the trim if you want the classic 'circles' look. And don't forget the mantle! --Liutgard of Luxeuil, OL, An Tir
@TheWelshViking
@TheWelshViking 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info and the ALL CAPS WHICH REALLY HELP.
@HrHaakon
@HrHaakon 2 жыл бұрын
As a guy with hairy hands who've worked in a kitchen: You get used to the smell, but I'd never work in a kitchen with hair on the loose.
@zxyatiywariii8
@zxyatiywariii8 Жыл бұрын
Yes! When our city was in lockdown, my hair ended up at a length between my knees and ankles (because all the salons were closed) and I found myself wearing a head covering whenever I was cooking, it just made sense.
@EmilyKinny
@EmilyKinny 3 жыл бұрын
14:16 now that you mention it.... I would love a video showing how viking reenactment fashion has changed, if that's something you can do! I think it'd be interesting to see how people used to interpret the information they had and why we now think differently.
@Faefire
@Faefire 3 жыл бұрын
Oh, I would be very interested in seeing that as well. It is always tricky to come to conclusions based on (in some cases) just a few scraps, and learning about older theories and why they are not seen as probable today, might help.
@akashanumberfive199
@akashanumberfive199 3 жыл бұрын
This feels weird but I have to say.... You sir, are incredibly handsome
@luxborealis
@luxborealis 3 жыл бұрын
You’re just trying to flatter him so he’ll give you the dress! But not if I flatter him first! I’ll be the prettiest man in the county with a nice Viking dress that matches my beard!
@johannageisel5390
@johannageisel5390 3 жыл бұрын
About the gores: If you're going to seam your apron dress on both sides, you probably need gores, because otherwise you couldn't walk, I have a shift that goes over my butt and then straight down and it's too tight around the legs to do larger steps. But if you pleat your dress, you can probably do without gores because you would take a wide enough rectangle to accomodate for walking and then reduce the excess width around the torso with the pleating.
@j.nereim9055
@j.nereim9055 2 жыл бұрын
And accommodating pregnancy. So pleats in front and belts when needed. I seem to remember a paper on that dress by an academic who was female and about five months pregnant as she wrote it. Beautiful example of why we want lots of different sorts of people all over the place. She quickly and firmly offered extremely convincing arguments about how that dress worked.
@brynsussex2967
@brynsussex2967 3 жыл бұрын
re. Belts being under or over the dress, did the buckles and strap ends we’ve found in women’s graves consist of decorative castings and patterns? Or plain and undecorated? A mixture of both? I feel like an elaborately designed buckle wouldn’t be worn under a dress where nobody could see it. Just a thought though I’m no expert
@Amy_the_Lizard
@Amy_the_Lizard 3 жыл бұрын
That's a good point
@ah5721
@ah5721 3 жыл бұрын
Most medieval finds and sources say if your wealthy you flaunt it baby! You wore your belt over your clothes. Why wear a belt under? That makes no sense.
@RandomAFP
@RandomAFP 3 жыл бұрын
I was going to say it'd probably have been uncomfortable as well and then I remembered the world before lockdown with its fancy underwired bras
@emjenkins464
@emjenkins464 3 жыл бұрын
@@RandomAFP yeah probably, though there would have been a shift in between. Womens foundation garments barely changed between the early medieval period and the early 19th centuries. Doing reenactment? Get a linen shift from the approximate century/period.
@RandomAFP
@RandomAFP 3 жыл бұрын
@@emjenkins464 am aware, it was more a dig at what we were all wearing before we started living in our pyjamas.
@rosemariebredahl9519
@rosemariebredahl9519 Жыл бұрын
An often overlooked practicality of headwear was to hide or prevent catching head lice.
@CarynOMahony
@CarynOMahony 3 жыл бұрын
Make the Viking dress. I would love to see how you interpret the broaches and jewelry.
@crazywoollady9325
@crazywoollady9325 3 жыл бұрын
PLEASE do a video making an apron dress! I would enjoy that so much!
@dianesawyerdooley4424
@dianesawyerdooley4424 3 жыл бұрын
If this helps: www.builtfjordtough.com/sewing-classes
@finuriae
@finuriae 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t classify that as a rant, I want a better rant!! I feel robbed of a promised rant. Woe is meee!
@Galerna_Carter
@Galerna_Carter 3 жыл бұрын
This was such a jewel to find. It was like Matt mercer's respect and energy + Karolina Żebrowska 's sass and love for good research. I love this kind of content and I'm guessing I'll love this kind of community. Staying for the ride!! 🌿🎇
@brittanygilbert7843
@brittanygilbert7843 2 жыл бұрын
Oh dang, the Matt Mercer comparison is spot on!
@scouttyra
@scouttyra 2 жыл бұрын
@@brittanygilbert7843 the glorious hair!
@kohakuaiko
@kohakuaiko Жыл бұрын
I'd love to play a ttrpg all three of them. It would be awesome.
@sarahlabbe9779
@sarahlabbe9779 3 жыл бұрын
Me wanting to make something authentic: Alright where do I get myself some northern european breed of wooly animals that existed back then?
@Amy_the_Lizard
@Amy_the_Lizard 3 жыл бұрын
There's some old Icelandic breeds if I remember correctly, or if you're willing to deviate into southern Europe there's always the Merino. They're a pretty old breed, but I'm not sure if they go all the way back to viking age. It's been a while since I had to memorize sheep breeds for a class, and I didn't do very well in that part of the class anyway...
@RandomAFP
@RandomAFP 3 жыл бұрын
I believe they were mostly smallish double-coated sheep. I've been using gute, Icelandic, Manx Loaghtan and Norwegian, but I'm told shetland is also pretty good. Finnish wool is softer, and seems to be the nålebinder's wool of choice nowadays.
@RandomAFP
@RandomAFP 3 жыл бұрын
www.bonesandrozes.co.uk/wool-in-the-viking-era-sheep/ includes some others, I got gute locks from a swedish Web site, world of wool sells combed top manx (lovely stuff) don't know of anywhere selling anything ready spun.
@jamierenner2115
@jamierenner2115 3 жыл бұрын
Shetland, North Ronaldsey
@sarahlabbe9779
@sarahlabbe9779 3 жыл бұрын
Whilst I appreciate the enthusiasm, I do not have the space on a tiny apartment balcony to raise sheeps.
@wollietashie
@wollietashie 3 жыл бұрын
Yes this was very useful, thank you! And also yes to making a dress yourself. That would be lovely!
@beth7935
@beth7935 3 жыл бұрын
@@nartyteek Yeah, I think if I ever did re-enacting again I'd do boy garb! I had one (very inaccurate) male Viking outfit & I just felt more like me... & long gowns are a pain; so impractical! :D
@two.lettuce5362
@two.lettuce5362 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video! After I went down a rabbit hole starting in Herjolfsness, I spent the last 3 or 4 months researching earlier medieval women's clothing online. Now that I had almost decided on how to sow my aprondress you show this absolutely amazing example. Soooooo - my plans just might have changed... Hayyp new year, Jimmy!
@Evaleastaristev
@Evaleastaristev 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this! And as for how I wear my belt with my women's kit...I don't like looking like I'm wearing a sack, and the dresses are very sack like, so the belt give a waist. Knowing that people can't tell me I'm wrong to do that is rather handy!
@margaretkaraba8161
@margaretkaraba8161 3 жыл бұрын
Not to be cringy - but periods? Abby Cox has done a video on the methods of 18th century "catching the flow" as it were and a belt could definitely be used there.
@Evaleastaristev
@Evaleastaristev 3 жыл бұрын
Oh, it definitely could have been used for that, but that's also just as likely to be held up by apron strings, as it was in Abby's video.
@ah5721
@ah5721 3 жыл бұрын
Makes sense to me to wear a belt over your clothes. Why wear one under who ever came up with that idea is an idiot.
@CARLandGINNIE
@CARLandGINNIE 3 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't the belt be to adjust the fit of your dress based on whether you were pregnant or not? Maternity clothes are a relatively recent thing, and most women would have many pregnancies back then.
@Evaleastaristev
@Evaleastaristev 3 жыл бұрын
That would depend on how much fabric was in the waist to begin with. In fairly sure that mine would not fit a pregnant belly, and just cinching a belt astound that much fabric would not be flattering at all. Or comfortable.
@AnnoyedKitten
@AnnoyedKitten 3 жыл бұрын
Why would women not wear belts? That was the most stupid thing I ever heard! Also, about the different shape of brooches. You probably know this, but the different shapes seems to be different fashion in different areas. Like the animal heads are mostly found on Gotland etc. So if one want to really go nerdy on that there is a lot of fun things just about the oval brooches. :)
@rickshaw1971
@rickshaw1971 3 жыл бұрын
As the spinners know, belts are super-useful if you're having to carry/use particular kinds of distaff.
@revededragonnette3864
@revededragonnette3864 3 жыл бұрын
I've heard another reenacter say that the belts might nor have been worn by woman as they would hang their ustensils on their broaches, and the rest would go in their bags ( and most of men's stuff would also be carried around in bags, so no point overloading the belts). That being said this is jsut what I've heard before and I'm very new to reenactment, I don't think either interpretations are stupid but if there was indeed findings of belts around the waist area in several women's grave I would assume they wore them. Hope that answers your wuestion regarding the reason why women might not have worn belts c: Personnally I'll do my research before deciding on either option, but I'd really like to wear a belt bc 1-it's pretty 2-I think I'd be more practical than having stuff danging from my bosom.
@AnnoyedKitten
@AnnoyedKitten 3 жыл бұрын
@@revededragonnette3864 First of all, belts are used for so much more than just carrying stuff. Like holding your pants up, holding in your dress at the waist (try and actually work and watch a baby in an A-shaped dress without a belt and you will notice that you soon are entangled in everything) and just making you look blingy. Second of all, the pins in the brooches was not always that sturdy. If you put to much stuff on them, there is a high risk that you will loose all your valuable things. Hanging things from a belt in a belt purse is much safer. Also, as a women with a large hand bag, I say that if I would hang all my things from my brooches I would look like a walking Christmas tree... Not a practical look.😉 The main reason I am really thinking that people that say belts was not worn by women is stupid is: If you don't aim for historical accuracy and just want to play viking because "Heey, fun! I can run around and drink mead and ale and just party at a viking market" that's perfectly fine. I strongly encourage people to go and have fun if they want to. I am, my self, not always wearing such accurate things all the time. But the problem is when people say women wear that and women did not wear this and say that it is historical accurate when they haven't checked things properly and is mostly actually making up shit and pretend to know stuff when they don't. Because that's when others, that think these people actually knows stuff, will take it for a fact and suddenly we have an whole bunch of people that truly believe that women doesn't wore belts during Iron age when in fact there is several archaeological findings that prove that they did.
@juadonna
@juadonna 3 жыл бұрын
@@revededragonnette3864 Amen, sister! (And that was meant in a totally inclusive way).
@ragnkja
@ragnkja 2 жыл бұрын
The “husfrue” would have worn her keys on her person as a status symbol, and a belt around her waist would be the simplest place to keep them.
@suzannespruijt2146
@suzannespruijt2146 3 жыл бұрын
Loved to see you include the bliaut type dress! I used those exact sources for an interpretation of dress for a Ottonian noble woman anno 1000. Spliced some Byzantine flavour into it, since this particular woman (Adela van Hamaland) reportedly was quite in awe with Theophanu and likely met her on more then one occasion... Piecing together an outfit to fit a particular person in time is such fun!
@luxborealis
@luxborealis 3 жыл бұрын
That is actually really well done. We have professional costume designers at the museum I work at but nobody ever considered the fashion impact of courtly cultural exchanhe.
@suzannespruijt2146
@suzannespruijt2146 3 жыл бұрын
@@luxborealis Thank you for that :) I actually made that outfit for a museum, and was initially worried "going Byzantine" would not resonate with visitors. But, it wasn't my job to uphold the Hollywood fantasy people are accustomed to, and the museum really liked the idea. What museum are you at? PS: link to a photo of that commission: facebook.com/hetateliervantoen/photos/1584167721628711
@lisaanne8459
@lisaanne8459 3 ай бұрын
I thank you for the slide of the shoes. Novelist here, much to learn.
@Tina06019
@Tina06019 3 жыл бұрын
I sew & wear linen shifts and apron-dresses. I sew wool garments all the time, but I cannot tolerate any extra heat during our North American summers. That said, I have worn tropical weight wool dress uniform trousers, and they weren’t bad. But the weave looks very modern to me.
@sarafeltner9484
@sarafeltner9484 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for all the information. I can say that I am super happy with the pleating on my Viking dress. They make it so much more comfy to wear and easier to lend to friends as it is easier to fit on different shaped people.
@YlvaTheRed
@YlvaTheRed 3 жыл бұрын
Depending on whether your Dublin cap is wool or silk, it could have been dyed with madder or lichen :)
@YlvaTheRed
@YlvaTheRed 3 жыл бұрын
Further reading if anyone is interested drive.google.com/drive/folders/1PJgYKboH_qbX9JAyXiyPCiCdJzJf7Uhw?usp=sharing
@sisuguillam5109
@sisuguillam5109 3 жыл бұрын
@@YlvaTheRed thank you!
@laulutar
@laulutar 3 жыл бұрын
Purple silk cap? Oh yes, I'm very tempted to make my ancient ancestors go "what are you doing girl? Get that silly Norse fashion tosh off your head, NAO!" :D Also, a resounding HELL YES to seeing Jimmy make an apron dress! Apron dresses for everybody!
@Nina-sq7fy
@Nina-sq7fy 3 жыл бұрын
No idea why this was recommended to me, but now I want to get myself a nice viking dress and just walk around in the forest. Thanks for the info, I feel inspired now
@zxyatiywariii8
@zxyatiywariii8 Жыл бұрын
You'll find it remarkably warm and comfortable in winter! I'm addicted to medieval clothing, because I currently live in Minnesota and I hate being cold. Viking women's dresses are comfortable as well as flattering, and wonderfully cozy.
@llatew7126
@llatew7126 3 жыл бұрын
I love noticing whenever your nails are painted it's adorable
@darthbee18
@darthbee18 3 жыл бұрын
Re: Viking and linen (for outer garment) - not actually Viking but I found out that Lithuanian people traditionally relied on linen as their fiber of choice for clothing (...and everything else, really), despite them living in higher latitude, and this is because Lithuanian sheep's wool fiber was coarse, thus not suitable for clothing (I forgot if they used wool for something else but it didn't seem like it). I don't know if there were certain Viking communities that did similarly to the Lithuanians (that, or perhaps the Vikings were just luckier since their sheep's wool fiber was fine enough to be used for clothing purposes 😜🐑)
@melaniefunk693
@melaniefunk693 3 жыл бұрын
As a woman I've actually learned a lot from your previous video's. As a weaver it took some digging and you covered several aspects of what was available in types of weave and cloth. I'm looking at my linen and have great plans - so this video couldn't have been timed better :) Still looking to source good wool...
@kellybraille
@kellybraille Жыл бұрын
I know you've probably heard this a ton, but I'd really love to hear you do an entire video dedicated to beads. I think you'd cover it so well, both from a historical and a reenactors perspective. That would be amazing!
@LadyMcBite
@LadyMcBite 3 жыл бұрын
And I can imagine them using naalbind hats in the winters up here in the North xD YES! Make a whole Viking Woman kit and let us be with you on the journey! :D I have been thinking of making a Viking kit but I fell down the rabbit hole on Finnish/Baltic style of the apron dress in the same era.... would they count in being Viking? xD
@lenabreijer1311
@lenabreijer1311 3 жыл бұрын
The "Scandinavian migration era" is what I seen it referred to which is much better.
@laulutar
@laulutar 3 жыл бұрын
The word I've seen used most often (in Finland) translates as the "Migration era".
@Amy_the_Lizard
@Amy_the_Lizard 3 жыл бұрын
Well. Since viking literally means 'person that goes raiding' I'm inclined to say it depends on whether or not they were going on raids during that time
@LadyMcBite
@LadyMcBite 3 жыл бұрын
@@Amy_the_Lizard I guess I didnt write well enough. I ment the clothing. If the clothing would be seen as the right kind of clothes in viking reenactment.
@thatcellistfromfinland4402
@thatcellistfromfinland4402 3 жыл бұрын
There definitely was happening trade between Finnish people and Vikings, so I'd say it counts. Also this Finnish Jewellery company called Kalevala has made reconstructions of jewellery finds.
@Heather-xm9ul
@Heather-xm9ul 7 ай бұрын
An interesting thing I saw about the history of women's clothing was focused on maternity clothing. Multiple youtubers and articles talked about how (with the exception of the extraordinarily wealthy) ALL women's clothing was maternity clothing. For centuries, in basically all of Europe, women wore dresses that had room for bloating, hormonal weight gain, and pregnancy. The same dress that fit you at 40 weeks of pregnancy, would simply be tied tighter about you as you lost the baby weight.
@alethearia
@alethearia Жыл бұрын
Nettle cloth! I'm just recalling some bog samples of underwear we thought was linen, but it was nettle. So, thay's be a fun historical weaving project.
@kbyom
@kbyom 3 ай бұрын
Nettle cloth existed. It's a fairly recent discovery.
@l.m.2404
@l.m.2404 3 жыл бұрын
As earling Viking clothing was unisexual in design, hell yes to the dress! Lol My your and yours have a healthy, prosperous and creative year ahead. Cheers to 2021 and many more of your videos.
@catzkeet4860
@catzkeet4860 3 жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t say that I was missing this topic, but hey, I’m glad you went there. I mean there’s lots of female oriented historic clothing, but few that cover the period that you do with the historic rigor that you apply, so it was really interesting to hear your take. I also think that making a dress would be very cool just to get another take on construction and a different style etc(yes I watched Liz’s videos on her Herjolfsness dress....‘‘twas great !!). There’s not a lot of documentary/archaeological evidence for cross dressing, Thor notwithstanding (but then gods always got to do the titillating things that ordinary humans couldn’t, didnt they) but there was a mention in a saga(sorry can’t remember which one or what country it was) where a woman sues for divorce from her husband on the grounds of cross dressing. If they had laws relating to it, it must have been a “thing” often enough to be noticed one infers. The Viking attitude towards women as their attitudes to most things, seemed to be based in pragmatism. Yes women had rights....well, when the men were off a’viking or fishing, or trading(and yes there were female traders too), “someone” had to keep the farm running, the animals fed, milked, slaughtered, butchered and the meat prepared and stored, butter and cheeses made, to sow the crops, harvest and store the grain, as well as the traditional “womanly” tasks like caring for children, cooking, weaving, sewing etc. if a little legal power made them able to do these things better, then most men were happy to allow them those powers. They generally, still considered women, lesser beings tho. Yes their woman had much more freedom than most.....but that’s not saying a lot in medieval Europe, where “most” had no freedoms at all.
@jackiejames4551
@jackiejames4551 3 жыл бұрын
Linen under wool! Excellent advice.
@ah5721
@ah5721 3 жыл бұрын
Yes! Some wool is poor quality and is to scratchy to wear near skin
@lavendarcrash2941
@lavendarcrash2941 3 жыл бұрын
The debate with yourself at the end was better than the post-credit scenes in a Marvel movie. Now I'll await your dressmaking video with bated breath ❤️
@lucyannethrope7569
@lucyannethrope7569 Жыл бұрын
I know, old vid, buuuuuut as a woman, with fairly long hair (to my waist) I have to point out that caps, vails and other means of covering the hair isn't by no means for female opression perpuse only....covering the hair keeps it clean and nice even when you can't wash it every time you done some kind of physical labour.
@queenofthepierats3488
@queenofthepierats3488 2 жыл бұрын
This popped up in my recommended videos (I'd been looking at sewing vintage skirts) and, although I'm not planning on reenacting anything, it was very interesting - watched all the way to the end. Thanks for a fascinating look at historical clothing! Now I'm off to watch more of your videos. (Also, your hair is fantastic.)
@johannao4849
@johannao4849 3 жыл бұрын
I like the way you talk about the stuff we don't know 100%, that's a mark of a real researcher! What a delightful channel! *Subscribed*
@DawnOldham
@DawnOldham 3 жыл бұрын
When the kids were little and we were home schooling about the Middle Ages, I made myself a costume to teach a group of children in. It was NOT wool. LOL it was a shiny green damask with contrasting cream damask. The sleeves were bell shaped and the head piece was a round tube of fabric with trim wrapped around it and made to look like a wreath in my hair. (I had someone make it for me as I am not a sewer at that level.) Anyway, it made a great Halloween costume snd a nice Middle Ages costume for the next few times we covered the topic! I’m glad I didn’t know how far away from the real thing I actually was! Ha ha
@sophroniel
@sophroniel 3 жыл бұрын
This is an unrelated comment to telling you this is a good video, but I LOVE your jumper. If you ever need someone experienced in reading medieval swedish/danish/norwegian and anything in between, do let me know, my dad and I do that a lot ;)
@ah5721
@ah5721 3 жыл бұрын
How do you find ancestors? I've have only got back to my 1870's ancestry because I cant speak Swedish and the last name thing wasn't codified...
@sophroniel
@sophroniel 3 жыл бұрын
@@ah5721 mainly by using parish registers, wills and other things of that kind. If you know who was the son/daughter of whom and you can find addresses and records of christenings, weddings, occupations in census records, it becomes a bit easier. Sometimes it really is guesswork, however. If you can transcribe the swedish, you can plug it into google translate, and usually that kind of document isn't too complex and should give you some idea of what's going on. It's what I do when I can't read it/find my dad! If it's too hard that's when you dive into geneology forums
@luxborealis
@luxborealis 3 жыл бұрын
If you wanna earn some money off that, I happen to know Lionbridge is doing an early modern Norwegian transcription project right now. I apparently had too many transcript errors in my entrance test to be accepted (I am a historian of the 19th century, so my ability in older periods is limited), but you might have better luck.
@JaleaWard
@JaleaWard 3 жыл бұрын
I was planning to ask you exactly this, so thanks for the starting point :)
@RandomAFP
@RandomAFP 3 жыл бұрын
oooh stuff to read! And yeah, the gauge of the York sock is crazy-making. Naturally I'm trying to match it.
@RandomAFP
@RandomAFP 3 жыл бұрын
Actually... I'm new to all this, but I look at the reenactment combs and all I can think is if they were making such lovely jewellery they must have been able to make combs that didn't look like wonky nails hammered into a spare bit of 2x4, and the quality of the textiles argues for that as well because you can't spin fine with badly prepped fibre.
@RandomAFP
@RandomAFP 3 жыл бұрын
Aaand today the Judith Jesch book arrived and right near the start there's a picture of a *much* better wool comb than I've seen for sale as a reproduction suitable for reenactment. It seems likely it had fine points which rusted away and if so, it would have been every bit as good as my modern combs. Really looking forward to being able to get out to museums.
@FortuitousOwl
@FortuitousOwl 3 жыл бұрын
Just discovered your channel looking for Viking historical fashion and I love this video! Time to binge all your content and add you to my ever growing list of costubers!
@tdorn20000
@tdorn20000 3 жыл бұрын
I love the creative inspiration and motivation to seek new knowledge that comes from each of your videos.
@ncalgal4699
@ncalgal4699 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this peek into Viking women's clothing. Adore the pleated apron dress replica!
@jenniferbray2734
@jenniferbray2734 15 күн бұрын
I know this is an old video, but in case noone else has pointed it out, there were linen hangerocks/apron-dresses/whatever-you-call-thems: Hägg, Inga, 1974, "Kvinnodräkten i Birka, AUN 2" page 51, fig 37 has a table listing graves of different periods with linen and wool examples. There are 3 undated linen examples, and just one undated wool example, but for 800s there is just one grave with linen hangerocks and 5 for wool, and for 900s there are 4 graves for linen hangerocks and 14 for wool. Hägg also mentions linen lining on wool hangerocks. It's an interesting book if you can get hold of it, and if you can make out the Swedish text (I got my copy in the 1980s, and it is so much easier to make sense of it now that online translators are a thing!)
@anthonythomas7167
@anthonythomas7167 3 жыл бұрын
I just want to say, as a smol trans man, that your painted nails have made me feel better about gender than anything else in the last day ._.
@RandomAFP
@RandomAFP 3 жыл бұрын
Some of us like small dudes :)
@anthonythomas7167
@anthonythomas7167 3 жыл бұрын
@@RandomAFP gender is just hard sometimes ^_^;
@RandomAFP
@RandomAFP 3 жыл бұрын
@@anthonythomas7167 hard and nonsensical and blaaaargh.
@TheWelshViking
@TheWelshViking 3 жыл бұрын
Gender is a bollocks idea and you rock so hard for saying this in my comments. Go you! Be you! 🤘
@anthonythomas7167
@anthonythomas7167 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheWelshViking ✨😊
@Bildgesmythe
@Bildgesmythe 3 жыл бұрын
Love your channel. I always learn so much.
@Lunareon
@Lunareon 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for going out of your way to provide us with a starting point for women's clothing, too. I appreciate how you always list sources and encourage us to do our own research. :)
@gilltaber2187
@gilltaber2187 3 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to seeing this dress and the process of making it! Happy new year to one and all.
@WillowTDog
@WillowTDog 3 жыл бұрын
Just found this channel today, and it's great! Such a knowledgeable and endearing guy. Glad I stumbled across this!
@thebratqueen
@thebratqueen 3 жыл бұрын
Happy new year! I hope you and Mari had a good time.
@oliviawilson4806
@oliviawilson4806 2 жыл бұрын
Just found this channel and you seem very very friendly and sympathetic. Loved the video, keep it up 👍👍👍
@skye6945
@skye6945 2 жыл бұрын
Your channel is a research prompt. I have learned so much by researching things you have talked about. I take notes of the things that peak my interest while watching your videos and dig deeper. Thank you!
@tishie42
@tishie42 3 жыл бұрын
I am super excited to see the dress you are going to absolutely slay! 👗 Thank you for being here and happy new year!
@antonia.westcoast
@antonia.westcoast 2 жыл бұрын
Good golly I can’t stop watching your videos. Such incredible content and cheekiness and charm. Thank you for all of the work you’re doing, and much love and gratitude from Vancouver Island, Canada 🇨🇦
@Petalicous
@Petalicous 3 жыл бұрын
im glad someone was finally able to brooch this subject
@carysdeacon
@carysdeacon 3 жыл бұрын
Ahhh this was super interesting!! I love sewing things by hand and I’ve been thinking of trying to make some traditional medieval clothing lately, so it’s good to get a sense of the different components that would have made up women’s outfits ☺️
@Nessi-dances
@Nessi-dances 3 жыл бұрын
Wool dress sounds so nice and cozy right now! Thanks for the video! I'd have to take the broaches off my solo dress, but I do already have shield broaches. Haven't got any wool though.....I'll have to fix that. Happy New Year!
@lieselemay
@lieselemay 3 жыл бұрын
Yes to the dress! I knew it was going to be a good day when I saw you had posted. :~D
@MuseAndDionysus
@MuseAndDionysus 3 жыл бұрын
Keep it simple and it's hard to get it wrong. Great motto for so many things
@confusedcylinder396
@confusedcylinder396 3 жыл бұрын
I just started writing on my Norse/Viking fantasy novel. This will be perfectly useful. Thank you!
@clownscum3517
@clownscum3517 2 жыл бұрын
researching viking women clothing for some ocs and this is probably some of the better info ive found so far, thanks man
@elenakennedy5725
@elenakennedy5725 3 жыл бұрын
I would be so ecstatic to see you make a women's viking dress. Also, hi there, found you from LizCapism and have just gleefully binged six months worth of your content. Thank you for the awesome videos!
@Sally4th_
@Sally4th_ 2 жыл бұрын
Can't believe the argument about belts is still going on, I thought we resolved that one over thirty years ago! Love your work, btw, especially this one which covers a lot of the ground we were fighting when I was doing Dark Ages reenactment in the '80's :)
@Brigid.em.Galloway86
@Brigid.em.Galloway86 3 жыл бұрын
Blast the algorithm that has hidden your videos from me for many months now even when I'm subscribed with all the alerts on! I have missed you mate! Thank you for this video, it's timely since I'm finally putting together an ensemble to wear. I'm not going for super historical, but decent enough. And of course you are one of my favourite research helper/jump-off points. x
@cassidywambold8535
@cassidywambold8535 3 жыл бұрын
I just stumbled across your channel and I'm LOVING it. I just applied for University for anthropology to study Scandinavian history and your channel makes me so excited to study!
@cristinaornellas9908
@cristinaornellas9908 3 жыл бұрын
Thats so great ! Very well done !!! ☺️
@giualonso
@giualonso 3 жыл бұрын
I'm so down to men using nail polish. It's so fun and nice! Jimmy's videos are always so entertaining and cool. Thank you for your work!
@emilia.s
@emilia.s 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this! This video is really useful. My first foray into historical costuming is a male and female version of Loki. I've got the basic design down for the male version, but had no idea where to start for the female version. I'll go have a look at those references you left to continue my research. Thank you again. Go make yourself that dress! :)
@Jolan61
@Jolan61 2 жыл бұрын
awesome, thank you! That last link has some reconstruction notes and includes, quick check, yes it includes stitches and dart construction!
@revededragonnette3864
@revededragonnette3864 3 жыл бұрын
So hey, I had just watched you viedo on viking clothing and was super sad not to hear anything about women's clothing but I really appreciate that you did make one! As a fresh beginner in reenactment portraying both men and women I's extreeeeemly helpful. I'm French and have heard another French (male) reenacter say women wouldn't wear belts so I'll look into it and decide for myself but cheers for the extensive and enlightening overview of women's clothing! I love your channel and can't wait to learn more about reenactment, it's super valuable to have specialists' input on such topics. Can't wait for more of you videos!
@Staghound
@Staghound 3 жыл бұрын
I love those last few seconds is just all of us coming up with a new project despite the 20 incomplete ones sat around
@LanaFeyah
@LanaFeyah 3 жыл бұрын
This has been incredibly useful, thank you so much!
@breec
@breec 3 жыл бұрын
You have been a springboard for many a deep dive into hours of manuscripts and I've got several projects waiting in the wings as a result. As always, I'm appreciative of your starting points. It's making me a bit giddy that you shouted me out for this particular video lol It is my pleasure and I hope it helps for whatever you need it to
@TheCincygurl22
@TheCincygurl22 3 жыл бұрын
My first time in Viking kit, I borrowed a male friend’s wool tunic to wear under my wool apron dress! Slightly short, but it was covered by the apron and worked perfectly.
@nielspederpedersen8716
@nielspederpedersen8716 3 жыл бұрын
when you flashed to that Jim Lyngvild painting with just the enourmes"NOT LIKE THIS", it sparked joy.
@mandaroberts4596
@mandaroberts4596 3 жыл бұрын
"I'm BARELY a tertiary source!" Loved that!!😁
@polkadot8788
@polkadot8788 3 жыл бұрын
I think you need a t-shirt with i am not a primary source printed on it. 😅
@danalou7484
@danalou7484 3 жыл бұрын
I would love to see you make a viking dress!!! I love the nails!
@becomingelduende1604
@becomingelduende1604 3 жыл бұрын
Can't wait to see you in the viking dress! And looking forward to making some turned shoes
@TudorositiesbyMaureen
@TudorositiesbyMaureen 3 жыл бұрын
By the way the nail polish rocks. Appreciate the tips and hints. A good start to figure out an outfit. Will dive into the research.
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