1970 s sound shootout Nad 3020 ,Beomaster 1900-2 ,Sansui 331 ,Marantz 2238 bl,Sonab r-4000,Sugden A48,Sony ta 1010 ,pioneer sx550. patreon.com/StereoreviewX
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@postaudio4 ай бұрын
Kelvin is back! A pint and an afternoon of listening! cheers!
@toddblanks3 ай бұрын
Drunk on vintage amplifiers, Arrrr, tis thirsty work.
@socksumi4 ай бұрын
That smooth "trailed off" top end of the NAD 3020 is partially the result of the filters used when the jumpers in the back are in the "normal" setting. Switch the jumpers to the "lab" setting and it bypasses the filters. The sound is more airy and extended but also a bit etched so many folks prefer the normal setting which gives a smoother and slightly softer sound.
@socksumi4 ай бұрын
While the NAD 3020 is an excellent value integrated amp and I do very much like the sound it puts out. I never found it to be heads and tails better than competing designs as the over hyped reviews would have us believe. In fact there are many integrated amps from the 1970s I prefer over the NAD 3020 although they all cost more money.
@sirtainlee87254 ай бұрын
*head and shoulders Good information!
@lucifarian934 ай бұрын
Talking of design I really liked the NAD mk1 , put black tape over those flashing LEDs. Wish I could have found someone to fix it. Great amp. Soft clipping but never really had to go there. Very musical and engaging would present all genres from Dub to Debussy.
@timleelim99304 ай бұрын
The "Abbie Normal" setting? 😅
@analoglooney4 ай бұрын
@@socksumiI agree. I replaced mine with a Pioneer SA6300. Same power but sounded better to me, and boy did it look better.
@patrickfinlay20744 ай бұрын
I started my journey with a nad amp and jpw speakers from richer sounds £150 set up
@ry88143 ай бұрын
Kelvin, you describe sound in a very philosophic way. The words , sometimes it sounds like a music to me. love your videos, thank you.
@xcvbxcvb21794 ай бұрын
A de lux video on vintage integrated amplifiers ❤🎉 Thanks a bunch Kevin.
@stereoreviewx4 ай бұрын
My pleasure!
@astolatpere114 ай бұрын
I have the Sansui 771 and its very listenable and looks beautiful.
@leonardblush255719 күн бұрын
I have a 2220B and that midrange button is really essential to tame that edginess that I also hear, although a pair of NHT SuperOnes makes a nice match for smoothing. I also have a 2270 that does seem a good bit smoother. The 2220B seems spunkier. My Pioneer SX737 is in between; certainly not razor sharp, but nice and full and easy to listen to. I'll bet Kelvin would like it. Hard to tell is a 50 year amp is actually sounding like it's "supposed to", though.
@johnnytoobad77854 ай бұрын
I believe Tandberg made some interesting amps (and Tape Decks) back in the late 60's & early 70's. My very first speakers were a pair of Tandberg bookshelf speakers. The cabinets were made of teak wood, very efficient and warm sounding. Sounded great with my old 30w/ch Kenwood receiver.
@stereoreviewx4 ай бұрын
Yes, I’m dying to get my hands on some Tandberg
@gavinralph2910Ай бұрын
If I was going to a desert island, I'd take one of the tuner amps.....at least I could listen to the radio😄 I'd take the Marantz, reliable, solid, sit back and enjoy the sound, the looks and the lighting.
@MrCanes20114 ай бұрын
I bought a Sansui 881 because of you best sound I have ever heard Thanks 🙏
@stereoreviewx4 ай бұрын
Great to hear
@numinousbookofreview4 ай бұрын
I have the Sonab, it's very civilised. Beautiful too in its design and all-metal chasis. I first saw one in an episode of The Professionals where our two heroes Bodie and Doyle were prowling around some millionaire's mansion and it was the bedroom stereo.
@analoglooney4 ай бұрын
Yes I remember that! I seem to remember a pair of Wharfedales too in one episode.
@stereoreviewx3 ай бұрын
I’m buying both of you, anoraks 😅
@livelyarts494 ай бұрын
The two best integrated amps that I've owned from the 1970s are the Pioneer SA9100, and the Luxman L100. The Pioneer, was their fully loaded, top end 60 watt version integrated amp, a real beauty in every respect! Bought it new the year it came out, after reading a rave review in Rolling Stone Magazine. It needs servicing but I still have it. It mated nicely with my large JBL s99 14 inch speakers. That Luxman came out in 1975 for Luxman's 50th Anniversary🎉, designed by Tim de Paravicini, and again was their top of the line, fully loaded monster, very conservatively rated at 110 Watts. It's a most versatile, refined beast, that I bought used in 1994, and have thoroughly enjoyed, virtually every day since. What an exciting era for audio! And for music!! Good times.. 👍 🥳
@stereoreviewx4 ай бұрын
Thanks for the info, I must try some luxman
@dirkbusche544 ай бұрын
Oh, my god. The Sony TA 1010 was my first Stereo-Amp, together with a TT Pioneer PL 12 D. Nice, to see the TA 1010 again. Thank you.
@stereoreviewx4 ай бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@eazydraw46814 ай бұрын
Another knock out review thank you so much for sharing your knowledge and opinions when I’m having a bad day you keep me keeping on Kelvin thank you
@stereoreviewx4 ай бұрын
Good to hear my friend thank you
@1jhnpennington4 ай бұрын
Thanks Kelvin. Love your channel.
@andygee87164 ай бұрын
The NAD 3020 wasn't just used domestically, a lot of PA and sound systems utilised it as a pre-amp for it's smoother top end and deep, controlled bass. I believe it was also the single biggest selling piece of hifi equipment, ever. Nice one Kelvin, look forward to your next instalment. Cheers mate.
@matthewtaylor73554 ай бұрын
The Technics sl1210 sold many more and continues to
@andygee87164 ай бұрын
@@matthewtaylor7355 Technically, (no pun intended), a professional deck for DJ's, broadcasting and archiving, however, the fact is I forgot all about that one. The Linn Sondek is probably close to the 3020, too. Nice one Matthew.
@jerrypartington365012 күн бұрын
@@andygee8716The Nad 3020 mk1 sold 1.1 million, so it's easily the biggest selling integrated amplifier. The Linn Sondek has sales well over 100,000 so it's likely the biggest selling high end turntable, and still in production after 50 years.
@colinhughclarke18564 ай бұрын
Many thanks Kelvin- brilliant topic, and I haven't even seen it yet!
@stereoniche4 ай бұрын
Great to see you back doing videos again Kelvin! You inspired me early on, well done!
@stereoreviewx4 ай бұрын
Great thanks
@tweakerman4 ай бұрын
Another great video, I love those 70's amps, well done👍
@stereoreviewx4 ай бұрын
Thanks! 👍
@TheBodhisattvaWisdom4 ай бұрын
Brilliant description of Jacob Jensen. And yes, the first thing he always did every morning, was to look at one of his designs to get "a clear view of it".
@paulkerr91284 ай бұрын
Another really interesting and fun review. Thanks Kelvin.
@stereoreviewx4 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@Gezira4 ай бұрын
Thanks Kelvin, loved it.
@OscarSanchez-tk3hx4 ай бұрын
Hey Kelvin thanks for your review I have the Marantz 2265 B fully restored very satisfied.
@stevezeidman72244 ай бұрын
Finally caught up to this late. Great fun! Love these kinds of videos.
@stereoreviewx4 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed!
@batmandestroys19782 ай бұрын
Great analysis! You are great!
@richardcrook21124 ай бұрын
That was epic.
@jonpatrick664 ай бұрын
Kelvin, thanks for sharing. It's nice to hear what you've learned about the hi-fi gear that you shai here with us. This is fun stuff. 👍
@stereoreviewx4 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@cannawpz2 ай бұрын
Hi Kevin, you inspired me to look for vintage staff and now I have some NADs and Sansuis. As now 317 is my favorite. Thank you and take care!
@stereoreviewx2 ай бұрын
cheers k
@kobush184 ай бұрын
Excellent review and comparison 👍💯👍
@MD-ww4bh4 ай бұрын
Great to hear your thoughts on these amps, Kelvin. I have both the Sansui 221 and the Sansui AU-317 in my office and I interchange them for variation, I tend to agree with you on the AU-317, it has more space and detail than the 221 but it still has a really grippy, beefy bass. The 221 is super smooth - like syrup - but lacks a little bit of the detail. Still a lovely little receiver though and a steal for under £100 if you can find one. In my big room I use my Sansui 7000 from around 1970, which replaced the AU-317 in that room. It's powerful, deep and dynamic and you can listen to it all day, just a fabulous thing. I think it was one of the last of the Cap Coupled design Sansui did.
@stereoreviewx4 ай бұрын
Nice information, thanks
@GarySpb-rt9eb4 ай бұрын
Hi, Kelvin. I've bought receiver Sansui-551 one year ago after Your recommendation. I am happy completely with its charming sound. Thank You.
@stereoreviewx4 ай бұрын
Great to hear!
@bobaround53384 ай бұрын
Thanks for gathering up your collection and sharing them with us! You do such a great job of describing the sound of a piece of gear in a way that just makes sense. I have a Marantz 2252B and it is not what I would call smooth. It moves a TON of current and makes bass big and immediate, and you are right, it is a touch edgy. But the blue glow Kelvin... The blue glow makes everything so much more enjoyable!
@stereoreviewx4 ай бұрын
Yes, even the face plate is superior to all other silver face plates 😂
@mjmonjure2 ай бұрын
I totally agree with you on the Marantz. I have a restored 2230 with a new black faceplate and new bulbs, absolutely gorgeous! Sound is not bad, but my Pioneer SX 737 sounds much better. My favourite sounding vintage receiver, all 25 watts, is probably like your NAD, in a class by itself. The Harmon Kardon 440 twin. It is sweet and so tonally beautiful. As close as I’ve seen to a tube amp.
@ianwatkins58804 ай бұрын
Your back GREAT. cheers man.
@anoksf2164 ай бұрын
Lovely old receivers - I have a sansui g9000 - absolutely over the top and much more power than I’ll ever need - the pots and switches make a bit of noise now and then but I’ll never get rid of it - I listen to it everyday with pleasure.
@beslemeto4 ай бұрын
NAD is the best!No matter what you will listen!
@Ricky-cl5bu4 ай бұрын
That was the best one yet loved it 😊
@stereoreviewx4 ай бұрын
Yeah, I enjoyed it too actually, and it actually has some editing in it 😅
@dbert59631114 ай бұрын
i really enjoy your reviews .. so down to earth... funny, i;m 70 and grew up with most of these products..Kevin i;m still at it ..watching from connecticut ..USA.
@stereoreviewx4 ай бұрын
Don’t give up, just increase the volume 😀
@timleelim99304 ай бұрын
Thank your for this ambitious endeavour!
@stereoreviewx4 ай бұрын
It was fun, but thank you
@EddyTeetree3 ай бұрын
Always a pleasure! Yes B&O is elegant, well described. Their cd players with the sliding doors were the sexiest on the planet and have aged well design wise. No idea how they sound but Im sure the have great electronics.
@NomadBDP4 ай бұрын
Settled on a Sansui AU-999 now, absolutely gorgeous with mods.
@stereoreviewx4 ай бұрын
Am jealous
@TonyCottrell-iv2qv3 ай бұрын
Interesting as ever! Astonishing coincidence, but the day after watching this I saw a Sansui AU117 which I believe is from 1977 in the window of a small electrical shop, so I obviously had to buy it. It is not as if I have enough amplifiers already after all. I have put it in my 'office system' where it drives a pair of 1970s Videoton Minimaxes. It replaced a relatively modern Cambridge amp- night and day difference, so much more oomph and really suited to the speakers. It claims to be 15 watts, the Cambridge was 40. All I can say is Sansui watts are bigger!Thanks Kelvin!
@stereoreviewx3 ай бұрын
Great to hear
@chinmeyswayАй бұрын
i wonder if that is a real thing: big watts of older amps. it might just mean you actually don’t need 100 watts in a garage or house. 15 is actually the usable amount to reach say 85-90db type a thing.
@jameslynch78264 ай бұрын
Sony str 6055 l have at home. It’s solid and sounds great. £100 So I am sticking with it until I find something else in my price range. Now I am happy with it I am loathe to change it.
@stereoreviewx4 ай бұрын
Will be fairly hard to beat a lot of modern stuff that is cheap will disappoint you if you’re used to that sound
@jyrik66544 ай бұрын
One thing you haven't taken into consideration is component degradation. In my experiene Sansui's strength is quality caps (Nichicon and Elna) and good design regarding heat transfer. So if you take another Japanese from the same era, most of their caps have propably gone bad. Case in point, I have a fully recapped Yamaha CR-820 here that sounds as good as my Sansui AU-317. In fact its simpler phono preamp sounds better with vintage Shure cartridge (v15 type III). All of its caps on the tone control board were cooked, as they are situated above driver transistors, the hottest place of the receiver. At the moment, recapped, it's my choice for the desert island!
@stereoreviewx4 ай бұрын
Thanks for the info. Yeah it’s Gotta be true because all my Sansui work almost perfectly bit of a hum on one out of six
@Ricky-cl5bu4 ай бұрын
Kelvin is great to watch great knowledge
@stereoreviewx4 ай бұрын
Thanks
@musicforhappypeople46084 ай бұрын
hi kelvin i bought my sansui au 317ii amp together with a dual 506 t/t and a pair of heybrook HB3 speakers back in 1978 when i was living in walsall. i saved hard for a year paid in total 710 pounds.everybody was after my speakers which cost the most but i kept everything and still got them today.
@stereoreviewx4 ай бұрын
Excellent and for 50 years, that’s probably wasn’t a bad deal at all K
@jackfordmac4 ай бұрын
Thanks for uploading- appreciate the effort
@stereoreviewx3 ай бұрын
My pleasure thanks
@brandonjoseff37003 ай бұрын
Just a great video concept and execution
@stereoreviewx3 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@davidyeager85244 ай бұрын
Great info on some brands I’ve never even heard of. And that’s quite an accomplishment! In my massive vtg. Components collection, my favorites are the Marantz model 1120 integrated. Made in USA! I use the pre - amp out to a Marantz model 140 power amp. Superb 3 dimensional sound plus plenty of bass even for the most serious bass heads. Eventually to a pair of late 60’s early 70’s Dynaco A 50 loudspeakers!!
@stereoreviewx4 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@isupalodee4 ай бұрын
Gotta love this channel!
@Velvet_Torpedo4 ай бұрын
I didn't know NAD was once based in the UK. Their headquarters is 20 minutes down the road from me here in 🇨🇦. Always wanted to hear a Sugden A48 or a A21, they're not too popular over hear. Great video as always!
@stereoreviewx4 ай бұрын
Okay, I’m now going to look at the back of the Nad Amp 🤣
@Velvet_Torpedo4 ай бұрын
@@stereoreviewx😆Don't worry you're good! I was just reading about their history they moved to 🇨🇦 in 1999 . Funny though how you can sometimes think of, or falsely remember something, as "just always being that way" when it clearly hasn't.
@iuriryzewski26484 ай бұрын
Hello Kevin,I would like to thank you for your efforts doing this nice presentation. Maybe in some point I would become a reviewer also. I am here because I am a Sansui fan. While teenager, experienced the Sansui AU-717 of a friend of mine who the father use to be a longhaul Airline Captain, like me now. And this explain why this guy had that huge refined amp in southamerica in the 80’s. I became astonished with the amount of good sound produced, and never would forget the nice time discovering. Long time after, in the 2000’s I had the opportunity to grab a Sansui myself, and it was the AU-G99X 160WPC 0.003THD at 20-20.000hz SN 110db line, very fast in transitions (Slew rate of 200V/uS) beast in power and refinement. Now I have two of them as well as the Au-317 recently preamp recapped, and I love it, sound exactally as you say, Au-717, 9090, Eight and the 800 and the piece junk that is the A-1100P. Kenwood Model 9G, surprisingly awesome, KR-4600, KR-8010, KR-7050 Pioneer SX-34B, Onkyo (2)TX-4500 not mark II(bargain in US), Sony STR V3. To resume Receiver reception are Kenwood’s. Amps are the Sansuis, Even the 90’s are very good, except for the cheapest lines that are excessively colored plastic with sliding controls, they are junk. There are no limits for Sansui’s good engineering, but they are limited in market now, and the prices reflect this. That is the advise for the enthusiasts like me and you. Thank’s again and Cheers!
@stereoreviewx4 ай бұрын
Interesting, thanks for all that info
@allanellis58274 ай бұрын
I have a collection of vintage which includes two Sansui’s, McIntosh, Fisher and Concept. I had the Marantz 2325 and it’s sound to me was the least desirable. Compared to all the others I knew I would not want to listen to it. Although it was the most beautiful of all the pieces, I sold it. Just did not prefer it’s sound. But what a beauty!
@stereoreviewx4 ай бұрын
Yes marantz did such a good job even the fascia plate seems a higher grade than anything else And I think they tried with the sound, but they kind of chose that mid range lift Anyhow, I think we’re in agreement K
@allanellis58273 ай бұрын
Hi Kelvin. Your review of the Sugden A48 has piqued my interest in that unit. I'm considering getting one when it becomes available. Would you consider or do you know if the A48B is considered better overall? Thanks Kelvin.@@stereoreviewx
@ianstreeter52913 ай бұрын
Hi Kelvin! another great review 👏
@stereoreviewx3 ай бұрын
Thanks
@davidcarr22164 ай бұрын
You Da Man Kelvin.
@vincedebart11 күн бұрын
Another great video thank you
@HectorHughMunro4 ай бұрын
The best amp I think I had from the 70’s was the Armstrong 625/626. Also, the industrial design was excellent. Good review. That looks like a lot of work.
@analoglooney4 ай бұрын
They were astonishingly well made those. One of the first to use a toroidal mains transformer.
@HectorHughMunro4 ай бұрын
@@analoglooney And the radio was amazing.
@analoglooney4 ай бұрын
@@HectorHughMunroYes it was, Equal if not better than the Quad fm3 which is still a lovely tuner.
@HectorHughMunro4 ай бұрын
@@analoglooney I've had both so can confirm that too.
@analoglooney4 ай бұрын
@@HectorHughMunro The Brits were good at tuners, the Sugden T21 is another goodie.
@rompstar4 ай бұрын
love your channel!!
@stereoreviewx3 ай бұрын
Thank you so much!!
@georgecoles72204 ай бұрын
thanks a lot . still have a AU317 mark 2 .I have later amps but keep coming back to this one. Do find time we need good input on vintage Hi Fi.😁
@richg13314 ай бұрын
I've got a Sony SR 6055 powering My Sony 5520 turntable & I'm very happy with the sound 🙌
@stereoreviewx4 ай бұрын
Very nice!
@bradmilne8634 ай бұрын
THANKS for another one .....
@jim5864 ай бұрын
Super test and super video. You’ve a great collection. Obviously the amps on comparison here are from the 70s and early 80s. Are you going to do an 80s to 90s test? Ha ! Did you ever manage to hear any Michell amps of the 80s? The Argo pre and Alecto power amps seriously shifted the audio landscape. British designed AND built. Tom Evans and Graham Fowler are UK Hifi heroes. They then formed their own companies with great success. Tom Evans audio design and Trichord. If you’ve never heard an Argo pre amp then do yourself favour. Different level of transparency and naturalness which maintained the UK excellence in the Hifi world. Cheers
@stereoreviewx4 ай бұрын
Yes I really want to hear now
@jim5864 ай бұрын
@@stereoreviewx There’s plenty of Argo owners out there still if you can borrow. You can get them with the large power supply for about £350. Not cheap cheap but they just hold their value like all great stuff. It evolved into the Tom Evans, The Vibe, which is still going but more expensive (on version 7 or 8 now). Some say it’s one of the best pre amps around at any price. It was people like him that really upset the Hifi high end apple cart. His stuff (phono stages and pre amps) sounded better than really fancy stuff costing tens of thousands more and without the gold knobs. Have a search and see what and who he worked for. I’d loan you a Vibe but I can’t trust the post these days. Ha Cheers
@hifi-enthusiast3 ай бұрын
I would love to see a 80's to 90's amp test such as this video. And please include Kenwood if possible.
@Burky6664 ай бұрын
Fantastic, very informative
@BarbarapapeАй бұрын
Re the Sugden, i am not surprised that it is not working. The first one that i had on my bench i got a shock with, not an electical one but at the low quality components that they had used, very old 10% carbon resistors and capacitors that were leaking probably before it was assembled. Yet once i had rebuilt it with better components it did sound good but suffered from a high noise floor the constant hiss on quite parts in the music was not what i could tollerate for long. But the customer was happy to get it back. Not all gear from the 70's or early 80's was good yet because the Hi-Fi magazines raved about it they sold in large numbers.
@stereoreviewxАй бұрын
thanks for that maybe the transformer is the thing 🤨
@troll76974 ай бұрын
Thanks Kelvin❤,microfone You use in the past was better.i love you voice and i thing i loose something.where is the wax lamp ??😂
@stereoreviewx3 ай бұрын
got it thanks
@alessandrograldi43344 ай бұрын
Hey Kelvin! nice speech about vintage amps, never seen the JES and the SONAB, very interesting about these, i would say that about the japanese onese i found many Mitshubishi vintage, very nice sounding, not all are a beauty but always different and interesting stuff
@stereoreviewx3 ай бұрын
thanks for the info K
@acemacgruber65934 ай бұрын
I have a Pioneer SX-780, 40 watts per channel. The CPU’s are 50 watts. The receivers had to pass a run test for distortion, heat, and at a certain power level. The Pioneers are therefore underrated in their output wattage.
@stereoreviewx4 ай бұрын
Cool, seems like we’re getting to the bottom of this wattage fiasco. Thank you
@matanavgust84044 ай бұрын
Great video i am enjoy very much !!👌🏆
@NomadBDP4 ай бұрын
You're back! I thought you'd died of the jibby jabby!
@martinda74464 ай бұрын
If you are anywhere near the South Coast...? I can sort out the A48. Engineer for 40+ years. Fascinating as usual. I agree with a lot of your appraisals. You mentioned the 405 v 303. I can't understand how anyone likes the 405, so disappointing and well,, boring. The 303 always wonderful. PS been in the industry since the 80s and was around when the NAD, 217,317 etc were released. I remember the excitement well.
@stereoreviewx3 ай бұрын
thanks for the offer K
@analoglooney4 ай бұрын
The NAD 3020 is about as British as Fu Manchu! It was designed by Bjørn Erik Edvardsen of Norway and built by Fulet/ Proton in Taiwan. Nothing British about it at all. It was distributed by HiFi Markets in the UK.
@mkemp014 ай бұрын
The company was founded in London, England, in 1972 by Dr. Martin L. Borish, an electrical engineer with a PhD in physics.
@analoglooney4 ай бұрын
@@mkemp01I know that, but Dr Borish had nothing to do with the 3020 design. The 3020 wasn't designed by a British engineer or built in Britain. It was designed by a Norwegian and built in Taiwan by Fulet so not British. Putting NAD on the front doesn't make it British.
@timleelim99304 ай бұрын
@@mkemp01 My recollection was there was a Danish guy with big hair involved 😂
@markcarrington85654 ай бұрын
@@analoglooneyit was designed by a small team of engineers in London with Bjorn Edvardsen as the technical lead. The company was registered in England at the time. They also followed the British love of minimal design with the focus on sound quality over looks. I would say that’s some claim to a British heritage. Worked too. Every time I refurb one of these amps I wonder why I don’t hang on to it.
@stereoreviewx3 ай бұрын
Fu Manchu was actually born and bred in Bermondsey
@legomandk9964Ай бұрын
I started with a Luxman R-1040. Replaced it after 3 months with a Sansui Au-919 and never looked back. 🤗
@boris9944 ай бұрын
How wonderful! And it comes to us for free
@smih64224 ай бұрын
another goldy x9, thanks Kevin
@stereoreviewx4 ай бұрын
Great, thanks for that Info, I mean I know the sugden is technically superior. Somehow the Sansui just agrees with me better Now, I really wanna hear the luxman K
@BobO-ps1py4 ай бұрын
Just wondering why an Onkyo receiver wasn’t included in your review. Onkyo always built a high quality, attractive, very well respected product. I own an early ‘70’s, TX7000, 90 watts per side model, which replaced a Pioneer receiver. Excellent dynamic amplifier, exceptional digital tuner, and a beautiful piece to own. Keep up the good work!
@stereoreviewx4 ай бұрын
Thank you
@davidstorey764 ай бұрын
As an English man living in Canada, hearing your description of amplifiers with plenty of "welly" would be lost over here... but not on me! Music to my ears, I hope you continue your riveting reviews and the Sugden has half a day at the repair shop and not the undertakers, thanks
@stereoreviewx4 ай бұрын
Yeah no way I’m chucking that sudden and someone here actually offered to Repair Next word, I’m gonna try is oomph 😀
@davidstorey764 ай бұрын
Ha ha... I'll listen out for it.
@marcparsons17264 ай бұрын
Nice bit of information. Every Sansui in the xx1 series sound elegant. Pioneer SX series start at 850 and above. The smaller ones don't have the same sound qualities. We need another shootout.
@stereoreviewx4 ай бұрын
Working on it
@stephencallil65124 ай бұрын
Great review Kelvin .I got the Sudgen @ the Sansui ; Prefer the Sugden. A amp I really like from the 1970's is the Luxman SQ 507 X .I think it's the best although it's real close
@christiantessier65994 ай бұрын
I have both too. A48 and Lux SQ507x in my collection.Two of my favorite ss integrate
@user-bl7oe2md4p3 ай бұрын
The old tube amps worked real well with the massive horn loaded speakers like klipsch cornwall, or altecs, but horns have their drawbacks too, usually require a large space. Although these combinations predate 70's solid state.
@tuantrd4 ай бұрын
Can’t beat sansui and vintage jbl 😊
@stereoreviewx4 ай бұрын
👍 agreed
@jman83682 ай бұрын
The Pioneer Elite M10x power amp from the late 90s is worth checking out if you can find it used. You'll be suprised how good it sounds.
@oilyrag5252 ай бұрын
I'm really surprised your review did not include what was one of the most highly marketed amps in Britain back in the 70's from a Company brought into existence by one of our most popular and respected business leaders; indeed, someone who is still seen regularly on national tv to this day ............... the astounding Amstrad Integra 4000 mkii 😉
@stereoreviewx2 ай бұрын
actually I would love to get hold of an amstrad😅
@chipnadeau52304 ай бұрын
Hey Kelvin - Chip from USA checking in. Picked up the Sansui 771 recently after your Sansui (1) series videos. I will try the 331 because of the passion that I have been seeing from you for a long time. I sold my Sansui 317 a couple of years ago and I still miss it! I heard Jazz on another level with that little machine. I did not know you were such a fan? May I make a suggestion to the ultimate Sansui man? Bought a Harman Kardon 330 C and I was knocked out by how comfortable the sound was. I recently listened to Skylabs Audio (I think you would like their approach and their shop) out of Des Moines, Iowa USA- the owner Kevin said it was a favorite of his inexpensive amps- what a great value! I really think the 330 C is your cup of tea - try it as I think it will really fit your style / ear. So happy that you are back Mr Kelvin!
@stereoreviewx4 ай бұрын
Thanks for that. I do have a Harmon Carden in storage I’m not sure what one it is. About the 331 which I do love it wants to be in a small room. You know it won’t kick arse like the 771 at all All the best Kelvin
@leonarddaneman8103 ай бұрын
I have a late-70's 16wpc Marantz receiver set up with 'vintage' Advents (8" woofer, acoustic suspension) and on the same shelf a 300wpc Harman/Kardon . . . their 'swan song' amplifier with specs from 3Hz to 200kHz hooked up complex crossover Dahlquist speakers, 5 drivers per speaker . . . The NAD . . . like Carver . . . had that reserve power for transients. Quality of components is key. The Marantz is chugging along just fine with its original parts. The H/K, half the age of the Marantz, required a full restoration . . . 60 capacitors.
@stereoreviewx3 ай бұрын
interesting thanks the dahlquist have always fascinated me
@leonarddaneman8103 ай бұрын
They were designed by a scientist who worked on the Apollo Lunar Module. They are amazing. They downsized and simplified the crossovers in the DQ20's, which are also highly regarded. The DQ10's always make Best Speaker lists. @@stereoreviewx
@olliesjukebox4 ай бұрын
KELVIN! Loved this!! I'm currently hooked up to a Sansui AU217mk2 & Monitor Audio MA4 Mk1 and sounds lush! Try out Marillion 'Abraham Martin and John (live) with your rig...great 'air' in the recording, nice round bass and creamy guitars... Not to mention sublime vocals!
@olliesjukebox4 ай бұрын
Also.... I'm surprised we never hear your opinion about vintage Yamaha... Particularly the CA and CR range... I find them nice but a little polite... However I think the CA range are the best looking amps of the 70's
@stereoreviewx4 ай бұрын
Sounds great!
@josephfuller70084 ай бұрын
Hello Kelvin your channel is the best channel for audio reviews. The the equipment is described in a way that really gives the information people need to start hunting for equipment. Are you thinking about getting the Sugden repaired?
@stereoreviewx4 ай бұрын
Thanks, and yeah, I Will Repair, the sudden somehow
@andreas51534 ай бұрын
Great comparison. While talking about Nordic sound, I wish to hear your thougts about Tandberg. Cheers from Norway
@stereoreviewx4 ай бұрын
Yes, I really wanna hear some Tanberg too Literally not that many of them in England, I think
@andreas51533 ай бұрын
@@stereoreviewx let’s hope that you are lucky to get a Tandberg Huldra then.
@jonpatrick663 ай бұрын
Good show Kelvin . Dug it. 👍
@stevemumford69834 ай бұрын
Great reviews Kelvin. As a Sansui fan I love your summing up and as far as Sansui goes I know exactly what you mean. I am intrigued with the Sugden and want to test one out myself. Talking of testing out could you review a well renowned Luxman i really want to know what you think of them and prove if they are all hype or not. Cheers
@stereoreviewx4 ай бұрын
Yes would love to review Luxman
@AlexMitchell-sj4sb4 ай бұрын
I had the NAD 302 which is the successor of the 3020 and I found that an amp that was smooth and with a good midrange, just like you described the 3020. I understand the Sansui 331 has an STK module in it. They get a lot of flak those STK modules but I think they sound good. Not saying they are great, just saying I think they sound good.
@stereoreviewx4 ай бұрын
Always interested in those type of opinions
@AlexMitchell-sj4sb4 ай бұрын
@@stereoreviewx thank you Kelvin
@donjohnstone37074 ай бұрын
Thanks for another interesting video Kelvin. I was especially interested in what you had to say about the Sonab R4000, as many years ago I was keen on getting a Sonab P4000 (amp only version, no built in receiver). I still haven't actually heard one so I was pleased to hear your description of the R4000 sound, which I assume is much the same as the P4000. I did buy a secondhand Proton D540 which I think is a very good amp. Have you ever heard a Proton D540? It is generally considered a higher quality and a bit more expensive version of late 1980's to mid 1990's equivalent NAD amps ( Proton and NAD amps were then both made in Taiwan by the same manufacturing company). The AMC XiA 150 amp (150 watts RMS} that I generally use these days, was also made by the latest incarnation of that Taiwanese Co. Weltronics corp. It's a great sounding low cost amp and like those NADs it was designed in Britain. Looking forward to your next video. All the best.
@stereoreviewx4 ай бұрын
Thanks for the info, I currently haven’t heard a proton
@boris9944 ай бұрын
A humdinger of a yt channel
@Ricky-cl5bu4 ай бұрын
The sansui au317 is your favourite amp I remember you saying, I must try and get one
@stereoreviewx3 ай бұрын
My yes, they seem to last well too
@antoncorvinandronic4 ай бұрын
Nice review Kelvin! I have have both sansui 317 and 3020, but my preference is using 3020 as preamp into the power of 317. Did you tried this combo? For me the sound is fantastic
@stereoreviewx4 ай бұрын
Yes I know that will be an absolute winning sound not really sure if I’ve tried it yet I’m gonna have to do that now 🤣
@Evolved_ue73 ай бұрын
It's too new for this slot 1990s but the Kenwood ka 3020se is a super sounding amplifier for absolute peanuts a real gem for me .. Have you got one Kelvin?
@kenglee71614 ай бұрын
I believe the Sugden A48 amplifier is a pure Class A amplifier where the others are Class A/B which means the comparison not really a level one, as they generally make them sound more involving & intimate which is a good thing sonically. The downside is the reliability due to the much higher operating temperature and as a result tend to be more a fair bit more expensive when new . The good thing about class A/B amplifiers are that tend to run much cooler and hence generally much more reliable in comparison. When I first got into hi-fi back in the early 1990s, I had an opportunity to hear a Musical Fidelity A1 pure Class A amplifier with a Rega Planer 2 record player with Rogers LS3/5a. Very impressive sound, but didn't dare buy pure Class A have a quite a reputation for not running very long before things going wrong. Over the years, most audiophiles have agreed that on pure reliability, Pure Class A amps do tend to suffer reliability issues.
@stereoreviewx4 ай бұрын
Yes I think you’re right about class amps, not lasting long now the A4 eight I believe is a b I did have an old Sansui that was pure class a it sounded great, and then it blew up in those days. You’ve just threw it away, which I wish I didn’t now.
@-triumphgt6674 ай бұрын
You should try a Beomaster 2200 which is a better amplifier or the 4400 if you want the best of the 70s. Not as dramatic as the 1900/2400 but the components are better. The other plus with B&O is that they are designed so they can be serviced - great service manuals. The weakness was the red capacitors which were great but have not aged well.
@stereoreviewx4 ай бұрын
Thanks for that
@Mr.-Wint3 ай бұрын
Just serviced a 2200 and I confirm, - only not quite easy to work on, - pity it lacks loudness.
@paulrb8943 ай бұрын
Good videos, I wonder how you would power the amps on a desert island Plus you would get sand inside 😅? Marantz is Philips high end department, like Panasonic and Technics... Cheers
@stereoreviewx3 ай бұрын
could use that sand to fill speaker stands 😅
@0hFFSmyeyes4 ай бұрын
'Jump out and grab you round the neck and throw you around the room'. Said Alan Sircom never 🤣
@atomkraft694 ай бұрын
Kevin, you forgot to bring in your Optonica... 🤣🤣😂😂