Ill tell you this, I have a 1983 mongoose supergoose that Ive had since 1983 when I was a kid. I beat the living hell out of that bike and I still have it and I still ride it with my kids. All I did was regrease the hubs and bearings it still rides like it did in 1983 and is still is perfect condition. I don’t know if the bikes built today could last 39 years from now and still be ridden with minimal maintenance.

Best BMX channel out there. Still learning after 35 years, 80s definitely have style for miles. Every last part was ingenuity. Thanks for these videos. Restoration videos never get old, maybe pick 5 or 6 old school companies and do a profile on a specific bike or the company itself.

Do a video on geometry. Old school vs mid school, and today. relate tricks to geometry, like steep head tube is easier to learn nose manuels. Or a lower bottom bracket helps stability. This can help explain the evolution of tricks. It help some people choose the correct frame size and parts.

My only issue with new school is just the lack of color and chrome. Seems like all manufactures just do black, white, teal, and red again "seems" like. Phu/Al I am interested on your take of the repop bikes like the Mongoose California and Supergoose, the E.T. 40th bike etc etc. What's old, what's new, where did these manufacturers improved on or cheaped out on??

Best thing about old bmx is the dropouts had much more adjustment. Changing chainrings and sprockets were much easier. Now you need a half link chain.

Phu’s absolutely right! I have both styles as a BMX fanatic and BMX builder and I much rather have an old school! Alf and Phu I love the videos, love the how you guys get down. Keep them coming, awesome work Alf!

I’m old school Bmx but I agree with them that new school bikes can take so much more even tho todays bikes do look the same no matter the manufacturer.

You made a video about an old bike and a new bike, so make us one about everything in between, steel, cro-Molly, aluminum, fiber, etc. Talk about the changes, and when they happen, threaded to Threadless, throw in a 1 inch Threadless fork, and go back a little farther, I know you got something with a banana seat😂

I think new bikes are 1000 times better than the old school 80s stuff. The mid school stuff was the best and the standard that today's bikes are built to. One thing I'll give the old school is they had cool design, styling, and personality. I remember breaking stuff all the time on old school and mainstream popular early 90s stuff.

You are absolutely right. I have a 2021 GT Dyno Pro Compe 29” BMX and it is so robust. The tubing is much larger and the axles are 14mm vs 3/8”. Crankset is more robust and better brakes (V vs Caliper) too. I like the looks of the old school and it brings back memories but the testing was more opinionated and not scientific. You bring a lot of good information as some buyers are looking to cruise around the neighborhood and others are looking to put the bike through h3ll and back. Keep the videos coming.

Great point. I love the style of the old school but the new stuff is so much better. I think Haro nailed the combo of old school with new with all their Lineage stuff.

Old school rules, but then again I’m old 51 and still cruising a old school. My personal is a custom mixed 1978 mongoose with old and mid school parts. I’m not that extreme anymore. Bless up bro love the videos

Thank you bro. Great video I love old school bmx

My fave BMX channel.Fu is the man and has a great sense of humor.He loves when people prank him,let's see more of that!My idea is do more comparos,like 2021 Performer heritage vs stock 87 performer. Repops vs "oldpops" bikes. What has changed?

I have my old redline all original and my new subrosa. I love my redline but the subrosa is so much more fun

since i got my 2006 gt performer back in 2006 only thing i done to it was paint and some maintance to the rear hub , front hub and bottom bracket. it still got every original part except grips and tires. Full 4130 cro-moly its not really heavy nor light. it still rides as good as it did in 2006-2010. 10/10 would buy again

great vid, Love the old school bike design and uiqueness, never realized the difference in strength ! I have a Redline RL240 Chrome thats gonna get a modern conversion other than frame, forks, gooseneck and the oldschool mags, It has more modern stronger bars. Im going with better , brakes and levers, Gyro, Grips etc.. For what I do Im not a big air, Big landing rider so getting back in game oldschool bike should work, I go newer bike as I progress

Ok Phu, I like all your shop videos but this video I haven't even seen it yet. The headline caught my attention. I'm 48, still ride but I'm an old school guy till I die. But the old school bike you're presenting is making us old school lovers look bad. Please if you ever compare old school to new school bikes, reach out to me. I live 20 min from your shop. I got 3 old school racing bikes that make your subscribers think twice comparing old school vs new school. 💯👍

I'm always a fan of innovation when it comes to bmx. Whether its olschool, mid or new. I love knowing the history of how a certain part that has been improved upon from how it used to be made. Back then, bikes were made for racing, so durability wasn't much an issue and style is what sets bikes apart. but as riding progressed, and parts start breaking, parts became beefier and heavier to accommodate. New school parts now is a happy middle of strength to weight ratio on a tried and true overall geometry and i think has peaked. But when it comes to skill progression, seeing younger kids do tricks you wouldn't imagine yourself doing is a testament that what we have now works. Bmx is simple, as it should. When you have a bike that can be taken apart with just a 6mm allen wrench, that is good enough for me.

New subscriber. Just the nerd chat I was looking for

I agree back in the day you were able to tell exactly what someone was riding, nowadays it’s all similar

I have a sabrosa wild child and a Matt Ray. Definitely like the new school stuff for riding the old school stuff is nice to sit and ride around but don't do any tricks on it. One of my biggest things with progression of back in the day was breaking everything

I’m a sneaker collector. There is a pretty good parallel to BMX bikes. Some of the retro sneakers look so good…they look a better than a lot of current basketball shoes. But I wouldn’t use them for serious hooping.

Apples to oranges. Trick bike to race bike.🤔

I'm 60 and he's totally right.

Modern bike building philosophy is simple - Form follows function. That’s an engineers mantra right there!

Phu you should talk about 22” BMX bikes and older dudes getting back into riding. I’m about to be 38 lol. Rep for the old guys dude. I love the videos please make more! And also #Alfgang

Damn good video.

Before I think it was more of the look then function like the skateboards used to be all different shapes I just think everyone before used to like to look wild 😛

Hooefully see Walter inna vlog soon bro seems coo af

I remember trying to street ride on my 1995 diamondback assault after watching Road fools and snap my back axle from a feeble grind 😂👍🚲💨

Phu I’m old school like yourself. Can you feature any old school bmx. Maybe a viewer can bring one in. I like how you cover the bikes or any bmx topic. I would bring mine but I live down in SD. Maybe once a week you can feature one 👍

Alflaredo that was another banging video and guys like Phu they don't make guys like him nomore 😂💙🙏

You are absolutely correct. However, you are comparing a track bike vs a vert bike. Hotdogs vs sausages. Similar but way different.❤

Tailwhip Thursday do it would of been amazing to watch that mongoose fly, old school tires I just think tioga comp III. 🤔

How about comparing OG GT performer to a new school gt performer?

All the new bikes look alike, where'd all the style go?

I would really like a new bmx with the old school geometry!

Apples to Oranges old school was for racing new school are not BMX they are freestyle trick bikes. Old racers still did simple tricks on the street. Love the channel wish racing would come back

It's the type and style of riding that each bike was intended for that would determine the diameter and thickness of the tubing used. The freestyle frames of the 80'S used thicker tubing than the standard frames because of the stresses they were put under.

Really neat how u explained it's like Nascar just gets better & better.

Vintage BMX all the way dudes !

I’M UPSET!!!!!!!!!!~!!!!!!

At first I thought the blue bike was a diamondback with an SE handlebars

Can you talk about the price of the older box bikes compared to now? I do understand the whole vintage aspect of the older bikes which makes them a little more pricey.

So right!

Beautiful jorts.

You should build out one of your gems you have hanging around. Maybe even referrbing a old wheel set w new bearings free wheel ect… lol I’m trying idk

Nothing was better then mag rims back in the days

my 1st "BMX" was a mongoose expert beat on it every day for years it was fine...the expert is only 4130 on the front triangle

Roller coaster episode that was slick as Phus hair. Do a day in the life of…EPIC BMX video. Fluff up a good day where the homies come through from open to close with a session out front to end it.

I gotta admit I'm not that old but I just got a bike from my past that I loved as a kid and it had some style for a 2000 Mongoose Hoop D lol but ya you can't buy that quality of a mongoose anymore to my knowledge but I own a few bicycles that are gone as far as I know like DiamondBack and Schwinn

I’m obsessed with that Mongoose. It doesn’t get any sexier than that.

My dads tools from the 80s and 90s are still what we use

You guys should go on a mountain bike ride and go on trails and record it, just have fun

Too old to push a bike to a breaking point. Imma cruise to the liquor store😆

They dont make them like they used to (style and looks). I hate the looks of the new bikes but those fukkers will hold up to anything,plus the headsets now with threadless forks and mid bottom bracket inventions are awesome.

please review some repop frames and complete bikes. Hutch Trickstar, Haro Master, GT Pro Performer etc etc

Guys on July 16th there's gonna be a Midschool GT BMX bike ride. We may swing by your shop to show you some Midschool GT race bikes ultraboxes, boxes, recall bikes you know all the cool midschool shit.

I dunno if anyone's ever snapped 80s pro bmx, like mongoose Pro class, supergoose, kuwahara etc, they're strong.

I’d like to see some cruising.

I'm 42 but just got into BMX a year ago so I'm all new school

It's crazy how it's nearly impossible to buy new wheels for an older bike. New wheels have a 14mm axle, a 9 tooth cog, and many rims are unable to run brakes. And hope you like the color black, because that's basically the only color available today, for both hubs and rims.

Yup your right but at the end of the day I rather be on the mongoose all day

I own an Eastern thats maybe 8-10 years old and have my Osborn Pro still rideable(86). I have a Kuwahara Bravo KT and a Hutch Trickstar and have a midschool Gambler Pro and a Specialized 415. I like my oldschool best

I love the look of the new school bmx, can I find that anywhere?

I have old school but I really like the new school stuff

Is it possible to have a video on how BMX tracks have evolved. I love to learn about the top riders and there bikes from the 80s.

I get what your saying the loves not there... but priorities change, both have their attributes

80s la mejor etapa del bmx saludos amigo saves de bicicletas

I trust everything on my new school £1400 build apart from the chain 😂 Snapped too many chains and now I have "chain fear". The strength in BMX development is incredible but I wonder where we go from here? Like what can be improved? Has BMX hit a development "wall"? Are we at peak BMX? Only thing I can think of is some exotic type of metal to replace chromoly that's super light and super strong but affordable but even then I think the styling will stay the way it is now for a long ass time.

Old school race bike vs a new school freestyler....hmm not the best comparison. You right tho in some respects. I use to swap out weak parts for stronger parts all the time.

alfredo, are you running metal pegs or plastic? plus those both are amazing bikes, but the old skool can be modded with modern parts mixed with old skool also.. lol its all on the riders wishes and ideas in their heads. Phu, you should do a video on best gyro set ups, or best type for modern and old skool:)

Depends on your riding style and tricks you like to do...

Forks are usually stamped.

Invotion is a hella of a thing.

I miss my Schwinn predator

Late today but still 😎🤙🌹

I like your subrosa, I,ve collecting the bike it is SUBROSA GRIFFIN, subrosa salvador and subrosa sono, I,ok choose new school one

If you had a Hutch Trickstar or a Haro Freestyler instead of that Mongoose everyone would understand the point you're trying to make

Should do vid on Repops vs originals

Alfredo ,where i can buy some old school bikes ?

Retro mods.. Old/midschool with new drivetrain and wheels

Im 47 & still daily ride ride my '84 General Hustler Pro... 40 years & still the baddest motherfucking machine.

All i ever had go wrong with my old BMX would be getting a puncture, or replace brake blocks.

Yes for sure old school are way more cool 😎 but new school are way more stronger 💪🏼

I prefer old school.

First thing that catches my eye is that small ass sprocket why it so small

I miss the era of the 80s, but modern bikes are 1,000 percent better.. no one misses tightening the headset every mile, axle bending when you mention a peg.. bikes were either under built in the 80s-90s then severely over built in the early 2000s. Front triangles too short, rear too long, laid back posts would of never existed if frame geometry was correct. All wheels sucked in the 80s, I always ended up back on Skyway mags, that also sucked 80s bikes had character for sure, some too much so, but still you knew a GT, Haro, CW from a mile away. 80s bikes are now shelf queens that cost a small car to restore and then stare at.. My newest ride I have 2700 into and don't want to scratch that either! So I find myself looking for a beat up frame and parts to ride so I don't feel bad grinding... Old is Kool, New is better.

While it's true that most BMX bikes today look the same, there are still parts available that'll give them that 80s look. More importantly, though, are stronger pound for pound, lighter, and have significantly better geometry. I loved my 92 Haro Aggro and it held up until 2009 when it was stolen, but I love my 2021 Midway way more. I think BMX is one of the only things that benefits from not being made like it used to be.

Perfeito! As novas BMX e suas peças infelizmente parecem sair de máquinas de xerox! A velha escola aí contrário tinha identidade! estilo e cores! Não só tubos pretos

“Make them like they used to” definitely isn’t the same across the board for everything. As I would agree though, that most items made back when most things were made in the USA, are actually of a more solid build quality and heavier duty better materials. But in the case of Automobiles, most modern cars are more reliable and last longer. But older vehicles are far easier to do an engine rebuild in your garage with basic hand tools. The sheet metal and cheap plastic interior on modern cars won’t last very long at all.

The 80’s bikes had style.. we also were not doing flairs, flips or tail whips..

I mean he ain't wrong but the 80's bike is a race bike. Compare the strength and style of that Subrosa vs a 1997 GT Pro Freestyle Tour Team

Sealed bearings!

I think it would be awesome to make a functional 3 wheel bmx, with 2 wheels on the front, but just a dumb idea

dont stop showing up

I love Style..💃💃💃💃🚴🚴🚴🚴🚴🚴😋😋😋

old school bmx designed for speed and comfort but modern bmx designed for practicality and stunts exhibitions.

🤔, old vs new both have their pros and cons. Oldschool yeah I'm more of mid school. I would like to see how you rate my 3 next to new. But no weight weinne. They weigh more than 30 lbs an smoother than butter. I run 2.3 on all with triple walled Heavy duty sprockets k415 chains. I Dont know Trust them more than new.