Vintage Computer History: Ken Olsen and Digital Equipment Corporation (DEC) (PDP, VAX)

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Computer History Archives Project  ("CHAP")

Computer History Archives Project ("CHAP")

3 жыл бұрын

Sit back with your favorite cup of coffee, tea, or adult beverage, and listen to Ken tell the story of the early days in his own words. (One of the best documentaries on Digital Equipment Corporation.)
(Produced by DEC and the National Museum of American History, Smithsonian) The film was probably made around 1989. There is a reference to DEC World '88, towards the very end of the film.
--uploaded by Computer History Archives Project (CHAP)
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@tweetyuno
@tweetyuno 4 ай бұрын
I was fortunate to work for DEC for almost 20 years. Mr Olsen. Was a beautiful human being, for him every employee was important. DEC the best company ever existed in the World.
@KenSDCA
@KenSDCA 3 жыл бұрын
I'm proud to say that I was a small part of PDP-11 Engineering and the VAX-11/780 team. This video helped me to remember why I was so happy to work there. Ken was one of the best leaders I ever met.
@fishfullness
@fishfullness Жыл бұрын
We had a Vax 11/780 and then 785 at our college and our uni had an 8800. Good reliable machines and our use of the server messaging system for circulating a music fanzine in the 80s was the prelude to most of us using email in the future. Thanks for your work Ken :)
@ASCIITerminal
@ASCIITerminal 3 жыл бұрын
I really, really miss Digital!
@jeromewhelan6723
@jeromewhelan6723 3 жыл бұрын
This film and story was so enjoyable. I met my first DEC mini in the form of a PDP-8 back in 1970; it was collecting tracking radar az/el/range data from a small radar I maintained and sending it down the line to a large mainframe. I was in the USAF at the time, and a civilian scientist who served as my mentor handed me a full set of books on the system and encouraged me to study them. That later bloomed into an electrical engineering career where I employed, interfaced, and programmed PDP-11s and VAXen. Fifty years now and I still remember fondly the DEC family of computers and peripherals.
@shedwork
@shedwork Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video. I worked at DEC in Australia for a few years before the Compaq takeover. It was one of the best workplaces I ever experienced.
@ComputerHistoryArchivesProject
@ComputerHistoryArchivesProject Жыл бұрын
Hi Shedwork, glad you enjoyed the video! ~ VK
@MessiahProphylaxis
@MessiahProphylaxis 2 жыл бұрын
My dad worked for Digital in the 80s/early 90s until the mass layoffs in 1994. I remember going with him to work one day at the Maynard campus. I had a large Digital computer crate in my room for storing my toys. He said his division had the option to keep their jobs if they wanted to move to New Jersey. I'm glad he declined!
@sjpbrooklyn7699
@sjpbrooklyn7699 2 жыл бұрын
About 15 minutes in, Olsen matter-of-factly notes one of the most important features of VAXen: they all look alike to the user. In 1981 at the American Cancer Society we paid $280,000 for a VAX 11/780 to support a new survey of 1,000,000 men and women to be followed for years (some of this cohort is still under active study today). Before signing the contract we benchmarked it against a comparable Data General minicomputer and IBM 360/75. [DG happily let us test our own FORTRAN and BMDP benchmarks at a Long Island sales office. IBM declined to let us use one of their machines so we bought time on one at Columbia University.] The VAX was the mainstay of the operation until 1988 when the ACS moved from New York to Atlanta. I left the ACS but stayed in New York. Twelve or 13 years later I needed to look at some of my old data. The data were on magnetic tapes which could be read on any computer of the day, but I had developed database management software that was specific to the VAX. At that time there was a lively market in used or refurbished older computers. I bought a micro-VAX for about $2,000 and a tape drive to go with it. When I powered up the micro-VAX, the VMS system immediately came to life as if I were on the 11/780, the FORTRAN was installed immediately, and my programs ran as if I had just run them the day before.
@ComputerHistoryArchivesProject
@ComputerHistoryArchivesProject 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Sjpbrooklyn, that is a pretty amazing story! A quality machine from a quality company. Thank you for sharing this bit of your personal history! ~ Victor, CHAP
@JeffRyman69
@JeffRyman69 6 ай бұрын
I did some work on the DECSystem 10 at the Oak Ridge National Laboratory. It was, at its zenith, the largest DECSystem 10 in the world. DEC used to test software on it to make sure it could run on any size system. I also worked for a group that bought a MicroVAX. It came with the operating system on tapes and instructions on how to install it. I was able to set up the system, install the operating system (and compilers) and begin developing programs in about three days.
@ComputerHistoryArchivesProject
@ComputerHistoryArchivesProject 6 ай бұрын
Hi @JeffRyman69, Oak Ridge National Laboratory is quite a famous place! I bet that was quite a fascinating place to work. I didn't know they had the larges DECSystem 10. Sounds like a lot of horse power. Wonder what they use today. Thank you for sharing a bit of history. Sounds like it was fun! ~ Victor, CHAP
@billschlafly4107
@billschlafly4107 3 жыл бұрын
My first desktop computer, purchased in 1994, was branded Digital.
@josephcote6120
@josephcote6120 2 жыл бұрын
The Dec-10 we had at college (1977-1982) is still my favorite machine.
@Codeaholic1
@Codeaholic1 3 жыл бұрын
Several years ago I got to tour the Mill when it was occupied by 38 Studios. It was a crazy cool experience, seeing a historical campus and inside a games company at the same time. Glad Jeff could show me around. I miss ya buddy.
@telesniper2
@telesniper2 3 ай бұрын
0:30 oh wow i didnt know this!! It was my exact same thought process about a decade ago. I realized doing anything entreprenural with high tech electronics would be difficult if i had to farm ecerything out, it would be too expensive. So i got a milling machine and lots of other tooling and learned alot. Made jigs and a press to laminate multi layer PCBs, and a manual pick n place jig that was just as fast as CNC equipment because it places many chips at once.
@MarvinStroud3
@MarvinStroud3 3 жыл бұрын
I programmed one of the early PDP-11's. It was my first stack machine. I loved it, particularly when compared to the Data General Nova.
@pseydtonne
@pseydtonne 2 жыл бұрын
Out of curiosity: what did the Nova lack compared to the PDP-11? I fear that I'll start a Ford vs GM fight here. I've heard so many stories about either. However I have never seen a Nova emulator to try a comparison.
@nicolacorsaro1835
@nicolacorsaro1835 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video. I thought they would talk about the famous PDP 11 used by Ken Thompson and Dennis Ritchie
@velocityjockey1272
@velocityjockey1272 3 жыл бұрын
And you were correct, they did mention the PDP 11 donated to MIT on which the first digital video game displayed on CRT called spacewar was created.
@ibm3609
@ibm3609 3 жыл бұрын
I think that this en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultrix can help you to understand why...
@rw-xf4cb
@rw-xf4cb Жыл бұрын
VT escape codes and the VT standard is still around long after Digtial/DEC moved on. Lovely to see the old ESC[2J escape sequences around. Loved my VT220 green screen in those days with 4 session to various VAXen and today I now need 4/5 screens to keep track of what I had in my head as a youth was easy flipping the sessions doing something on one and editing on another.
@Shredxcam22
@Shredxcam22 Жыл бұрын
This is awesome I work on an integrity machine in openVMS that started life as a vax/vms
@sergeaudenaert
@sergeaudenaert 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the nice share and Merry Christmas :-)
@ComputerHistoryArchivesProject
@ComputerHistoryArchivesProject 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you too! ~ Victor, CHAP
@victorpinasarnault9135
@victorpinasarnault9135 3 жыл бұрын
And Bob Kahn and Vincent Cerf created the TCP/IP protocol to connect a PDP computer to anothers.
@James_Knott
@James_Knott 3 жыл бұрын
DEC had DECNET, to connect their computers and it ran on the original 10base5 Ethernet. We had it at my work, connecting 7 VAX 11/780s. Of course, many DEC systems were connected with IP. BTW, it was Vinton Cerf, not Vincent.
@tma2001
@tma2001 2 жыл бұрын
Famous last words from Olsen at the end about PC's and workstations - he was gone 4 years later.
@MicrobyteAlan
@MicrobyteAlan 3 жыл бұрын
I worked for DEC pdp11s DECsytems20s and VAXen. 1979 - 2000
@bawol-official
@bawol-official 3 жыл бұрын
Currently doing a big research project with DEC as a focal point and the impact it had not just in the field of computers but on my hometown itself, Hudson MA. If any former engineers see this comment please reply/message me for a possible interview!! I have a lot of questions and would love to have a chat.
@thebittenmac
@thebittenmac 3 жыл бұрын
I used a VAX 11/780 👍 So I am old 😢
@JimAllen-Persona
@JimAllen-Persona 3 жыл бұрын
I know the feeling. Remember the puzzle app on the workstations?
@craig893
@craig893 3 жыл бұрын
Ditto! 11/750, 11/780, VAX 6000, 8000 AND 9000. Several MicroVAXen was well. I miss VMS!
@James_Knott
@James_Knott 3 жыл бұрын
Back when I was a computer tech, working on the VAX 11/780, I took a Fortran course at night school and did my homework on the VAX. Also, I can thank the VAX for my first modem. My wife was visiting my office and I showed her the Adventure game. She asked if we could run it on my computer (an IMSAI 8080). I said no, but if we had a modem... I was soon the proud owner of a 300B manual modem, which I often used to dial into a VAX at work.
@davidpillitteri5393
@davidpillitteri5393 3 жыл бұрын
Grazie per aver condiviso questo video. E' un vero ed originale regalo di Natale.
@ComputerHistoryArchivesProject
@ComputerHistoryArchivesProject 3 жыл бұрын
Google Translate says: "Thanks for sharing this video. It is a real and original Christmas gift." Thanks very much for the kind words! ~ CHAP
@kalkan4
@kalkan4 3 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this one. Totally absorbed for 19 minutes. Thanks again for all of your fascinating uploads.
@ComputerHistoryArchivesProject
@ComputerHistoryArchivesProject 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it! ~ Vincent, at CHAP
@chumbawumba1959
@chumbawumba1959 Жыл бұрын
In 1980's while working on Masters Thesis in Computer Science at USM in Hattiesburg MS ... I created a diagram that depicted distributed local computers on a shared network fabric called 'clients' and a collection of remote VAX systems in VAXCluster configuration called 'servers'. Referred to the VAXCluster server portion of the diagram as in a ''CLOUD'!!!!!
@ComputerHistoryArchivesProject
@ComputerHistoryArchivesProject Жыл бұрын
Very cool! Thank you for your feedback and comment on the VAX/DEC film! ~
@laustinspeiss
@laustinspeiss Жыл бұрын
Easily one of my best working experiences at DEC around 1980. (118138)
@frankfahrenheit9537
@frankfahrenheit9537 2 жыл бұрын
what is missing: the DEC Alpha processor. 2x faster than an Intel in 1994. I had the pleasure to log in remotely to such a machine. Fast like hell.
@josephgaviota
@josephgaviota Жыл бұрын
10:30 Ah, back in 1975, I worked on a PDP-8I, paper tape in, paper tape out, and ran a Fototronic 480 (as shown), plus multiple TxTs (with 5 discs, similar to 10:35) ... Ah, the good old days.
@josephgaviota
@josephgaviota Жыл бұрын
Of course eventually we had PDP-11/34 and later PDP-11/35 ... but it then became hard to hold programmers, who all wanted to work on VAX.
@owenwilberforce6138
@owenwilberforce6138 3 жыл бұрын
My dad, Jaime Urquidi, worked for DEC from ‘77 to ‘92 or so. It is interesting to see why DEC computers were being used at places like NASA’s Moffett Ames and all around the world. I like their philosophy of keeping their systems compatible. If only small companies like Apple could have thought in those kinds of legacy values.
@dzee9481
@dzee9481 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, this was a time I was just a kid, any had no idea America was so GREAT! This is when America had geniuses and we created a lot of the technology we see today. I found it amazing that Japan and other countries buying these computer from us. I bet back then they dont do what China does today is steal our intellectual property. Although we let that happen to ourselves and deserve it due to pure laziness and dont care attitude. Seeing this documentary reminds me of how great America was once, with very creative people making up our middle class economy then. Today America only has restaurants and other food services that puts us so far back in technologically compared to the Asian world.
@ComputerHistoryArchivesProject
@ComputerHistoryArchivesProject 3 жыл бұрын
Hi D Zee, you make some great points. Glad you enjoyed this film. Thank you for your feedback too.~ Victor, CHAP
@boblake2340
@boblake2340 3 жыл бұрын
I was given a private course on maintaining the PDP1 at chalk river, by one of the designers, as a young Field Service technician. Played Space War on it too . :)
@346Moody
@346Moody 3 жыл бұрын
Great find thank you!
@ComputerHistoryArchivesProject
@ComputerHistoryArchivesProject 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it. ~ CHAP
@georgef551
@georgef551 3 жыл бұрын
To think, Ken Olsen said there would never be a market for a computer in the home, but also said at that moment that a computer will fit in your pocket in the future.
@uni-byte
@uni-byte 2 жыл бұрын
What we have in the home these days are not computers in the sense that a PDP-11 or a VAX was. They are more internet access terminals. For the great majority of home "computing" the machines have not been used as computers, but as games consoles, terminals and/or communications devices. A minority were/are indeed used as computers but not as many as you'd think.
@victorpinasarnault9135
@victorpinasarnault9135 3 жыл бұрын
Dennis Ritchie created C language for a PDP 10 computer.
@ComputerHistoryArchivesProject
@ComputerHistoryArchivesProject 3 жыл бұрын
Victor, thanks very much! (Wikipedia has a pretty good entry on Dennis Ritchie too. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Ritchie ~ Victor, at CHAP
@KenSDCA
@KenSDCA 3 жыл бұрын
No, here's his history of the C language and Unix development: www.bell-labs.com/usr/dmr/www/chist.html
@djorgesen4823
@djorgesen4823 2 жыл бұрын
I taught DecSystem-10 hardware and peripherals in MA from 1973 through 1976. One time Ken was walking across the production floor in the Marlboro large systems building and a tech, knowing Ken was a tight-was, super glued a quarter to the floor. Sure enough Ken spotted it and tried to pick it up. The company committed suicide by bad management. Tragic.
@ComputerHistoryArchivesProject
@ComputerHistoryArchivesProject 2 жыл бұрын
Hi D Jorgensen, that is a great story about Ken. I wish I had known him personally. I bet he was quite a personality.
@PatrickRosenbalm
@PatrickRosenbalm 3 жыл бұрын
That's Ken Olsen. Not Olson. ;-) Great find!! Thanks for posting. If only you could remove the cheesy dated video game music!! LOL!! By the way, Ever read the book The Soul of a New Machine?
@ComputerHistoryArchivesProject
@ComputerHistoryArchivesProject 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Patrick, thanks (fixed "Olsen" in the video title). Interesting book, The Soul of a New Machine, haven't read it yet, but thank you for the tip. Will check it out! ~ Victor, at CHAP
@Thistasteslikeass
@Thistasteslikeass 2 жыл бұрын
My dad used to be the manager of the operation in Thailand
@Chevroletcelebrity
@Chevroletcelebrity 3 ай бұрын
do you have proof of this? 🤔
@RobertKohut
@RobertKohut 3 жыл бұрын
Nice!
@BrianBoniMakes
@BrianBoniMakes 3 жыл бұрын
When was this made? Looks like the late 80s.
@jamesslick4790
@jamesslick4790 2 жыл бұрын
She said the PDP11 "Continues after 20 years" That would seem to "peg" it at the very early 1990s, as the PDP11 dates to 1970.
@ComputerHistoryArchivesProject
@ComputerHistoryArchivesProject 2 жыл бұрын
You can see near the end of the film there is a slide showing "DEC World '88" and then reference to DEC in the 1990's. I would estimate the film was made around 1989 or so. If we find the exact date, we will post that here. Thanks very much! ~ Victor, at CHAP
@MicrobyteAlan
@MicrobyteAlan 3 жыл бұрын
Guess my Favorite machine. Field Service
@rabidbigdog
@rabidbigdog 2 жыл бұрын
The destruction of Digital in Amercian business history continues to be a crime that should have resulted in capital punishment.
@dmitrykazakov2829
@dmitrykazakov2829 2 жыл бұрын
Great engineering, but very poor marketing and total lack of vision. I don't want to repeat his infamous quotation, but should LSI-11 had been aggressively pushed as a PC, the world would be very different today. Intel architecture was (and still is) inferior in all possible aspects. MS-DOS was not even a proper OS, when RSX-11 was a mature multi-user, multi-tasking, safe, networking, real-time OS with everything we have today. Intel, Microsoft and also UNIX drove us into the Dark Age of Computing for many decades and ruined the software market, and DEC? DEC is in history archives...
@ComputerHistoryArchivesProject
@ComputerHistoryArchivesProject 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Dmitry, very interesting points! LSI-11 does sound like it had lots of potential. Not sure why the company took a different turn in the long run. Thank you for your perspective! ~ Victor, CHAP
@dmitrykazakov2829
@dmitrykazakov2829 2 жыл бұрын
@@ComputerHistoryArchivesProject Thank you for bringing this treasure back. It was a sheer pleasure to work on PDP, VAX, Alpha. Each of them was a true revolution. DEC Ada compiler was a gold standard for many years and DEC C was the only one C compiler giving meaningful error messages. Thanks again.
@victorpinasarnault9135
@victorpinasarnault9135 3 жыл бұрын
I know about DEC from Bill Gates's book: the road to the future.
@83hjf
@83hjf 3 жыл бұрын
how scary. i was just today thinking about that book and now i read your comment here about it. what are the odds?
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