+Paul McGarr Exactly! Know who's what would have been developed by now if electric cars had have stayed in production since the 1900s.

+Take to the Road necessity being the mother of invention... seems to have had her tubes tied. we'd be one hundred years more advanced than we are today

+Paul McGarr We certainly would. But the tide is turning. And we've got an interesting film coming out soon on this very topic😉Stay tuned!

Not the easiest, rather the most money making way.

The electric car never would have been as good as a gas car at the time.

No you wouldn't, as you still couldn't afford it ! These were for extremely wealthy people ONLY !

​@@johnbishop7912Not really, the most expensive component of electric car is the battery. If you don't need to buy the battery, it's actually quite cheap. There's a lot of factories that rent the batteries rather than selling it.

Yup they sure did! Amazing isn't it. And to think as well the Victor was a prototype which was never developed further. It just shows that the modern electric car as a concept is not new at all.

Kevin Loving I know right? That surprised me, too.

Take to the Road If the electric car companies like Baker and Detriot Electric used regenerative braking could extended the range by 20 miles (32.186 Kilometers ) I'm in the U. S. Imperial measurement you know.

20 mike extended range would be feasible alright

Nothing new under the Sun - What comes around goes around... 🤣

+DandyDon Thanks for watching! It's fascinating isn't it. New technology that isn't actually that new at all. It was impressive that they thought of it when developing the Victor. Imagine where we'd be now if electric cars hadn't disappeared for so long.

As you may be aware Jay Leno owns a Baker Electric Car. He explained that there were battery chargers available every few miles. The cars were in many ways "geared" towards women with adornments like a flower vase inside. Not very masculine, I guess. Unfortunately in the US, a "last stand" which may not be the final one, our administration has taken a huge leap backwards. Not only is it the wrong direction, they obviously have no cares as to how it will affect our lives, safety and health. All but in the name of great greed.

+DandyDon Yes I've seen Jay's Baker. I think they styled them very much like their homes with fine detailing and nice cushions etc. Many had the "mother in law" seat which was an extra seat if you had more than 2 passengers. They never looked the most comfortable... as if it was done on purpose😉

Now that China is banning non-electric vehicles, there will certainly be a new revolution in electric cars!

+DandyDon Yup it is well underway already.

Cool😎Thanks for watching👍

*It sounds insightful but what does it mean?*

+DC9848 Not a problem! Thanks for watching :)

At the moment it is hard to say. But I expect that as tech advances, they will become collectible. And important to future generations.

I am not sure if those folks would share those kind of values, we have become so subjective that anything intrinsic /historical, is seen to lack value. I could be wrong.

Thanks!👍Glad you liked it!

Thanks for watching mate! Glad you enjoyed it :)

Check out what we're doing in Germany for the 30th Anniversary of Group B Rallying ;) Could be a good trip for you...just need to arrange a road legal Gruppe B car and we meet en-route. It's near the Nürburgring btw so double whammy. I'm taking the Lotus. www.eifel-rallye-festival.de/en/news-en/id-2016-eifel-rallye-festival-celebrates-the-return-of-group-b.html Beer's on me!

That sounds like fun! Getting to see some legendary Group B rally cars in action would be very cool. Let me have a think about it.

Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it. Have a look at the steam car film as well 🎥 👍

+Ib oogie boogie Its a Scots Terrior I believe. Izzy was her name. A very cool dog who loved the old cars.

It is amazing to think the technology was there that far back. The simplicity of the vintage electric cars I drove was surprising... pleasantly so. Almost maintenance free, when compared with a combustion engine vehicle. And as you say we blew it. The combustion engine just won the popularity contest. A bit like Betamax versus VHS.

em forty These electric cars were almost hand built if they were mass produced and with the demand for them growing research into producing the electric power for them would have researching into electric cars.

The Worlds First EV was in the 1830s

+Binny Thomas It is a big shame indeed. I think petrol was cheaper over all and easier to get back access too. You might not have had electricity in your house but you could have bought petrol in glass bottles at local stores. Marketing probably helped too and of course Henry Ford could sell anything.

Speaking of cost, what are today’s electric car engineers getting paid for? Clearly they are full of shit since they’re just dusting off technology that’s been there all along. Humans suck.

these things cost more than a modern tesla adjusted for inflation and the wages of the time. the model t cost $200 or about 7k in todays money. gas cars were and are cheaper and easier to produce

Thank you very much😎👍

I can assure you that there were no typical house 3 sockets back then, whatever that even means ! 💩

No hablo español pero puedo verlo 👍

I assume back then they just had the batteries all wires together with coils etc. There wouldn’t have been much management back then. The batteries themselves wouldn’t have been great either. But the regen braking shows there was some advanced thought even back then.

@@TaketotheRoad There was no kind of power electronics back then. There were only diodes capable of handling mA, that was it! So EVs used a system with a multipole contactor, that connected the battery pack in various ways producing different voltages for the motor. However there was 2 or 3 speeds to select from. However regenerative braking is easy with a DC motor: Drive along at high speed, with all the batteries in series, and switch to low speed mode with them in paralel, and the motor voltage is suddently higher than the battery voltage, so the batteries are charged and you brake. Lead-acid batteries are easy to manage: You overcharge them occasionally, say every 10'th charge cycle to 15V-16V which bubbles excess power off as Hydrogen and Oxygen, so they have inbuilt balancing. Other maintennance was checking water level in each cell every week and topping up if needed and otherwise keeping the terminals clean. So really no hassle compare to combustion engines, especially back then when even ignition timing was manual, and the carburettor should be adjusted accordin to the current weather to run properly. However Lead-acid batteries were expensive, and they lasted shorter than a Li-ion battery today in an EV, so EVs were more expensive than gasoline back then.

@@TaketotheRoad All the concepts have been around since day one .the matter came down to petroleum its simplicity and the monetary gain involved.

They would have used mainly wood as it would have been built by traditional coach builders who made carriages for horses.

Definitely Wood.

It wouldn't be cheap. You'd still need to do a lot of wood work but modern cutting equipment would speed it up. Electric kit wise you'd be able to go a Tesla or a Nissan Leaf setup. You could easily sink £50,000 to do it as authentic as possible. Hard to put a number on though really.

about the same as a golf kart since theyre pretty much the same thing

It would just take the efforts to refashion a carriage or buggy body and place it on top of the golf cart running gear. 🤷🏼‍♂️ The wheels are still available to be found, with Amish buggies, if you think about it.🤔

Yup pretty certain that would have been the case

From memory Ben the Victor would hit 50mph and the Pope around 30. Both very reasonable for their time. The Victor was super quick too despite its size.

the speed of smell !

Is this a Trick Question ? 🧐

exactly right - humans have more to do with it than cars. People REALLY need to stop TALKING & breathing and plants need to stop growing to fix the BROKEN Climate, don't ya know ? Just ask ANY Liberal and they'll tell ya ! 😏

You'll need to add a few more zeros on to the end of that 😉 💸

you can't get ANY car for $200 ! Maybe half a car ! Even scrap cars sell for more then $200 today in America.