Vintage fifties Swiss Doxa watch restoration / repair. Did I finally get a good deal on eBay?

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Күн бұрын

Can you get a good deal on eBay, in this case no. Restoration of a vintage 1950s watch, a Doxa containing a modified ETC Cal. 1147 movement. This one had me on the struggle bus. To good to be true I should have known better.
The files for the 3d printed parts trays I use can be found here. saving-time.link/watch-tray.zip
00:00 Introduction, eBay disaster
02:15 Dissembling the backside of the watch movement
09:08 Dissembling the keyless and motion works
11:56 Cleaning the components
13:00 3D printed part boxes
13:38 Putting the mainspring back in the barrel
16:04 Reassembling back of the main plate
28:00 Reassembling the dial side of the watch, keyless and motion works
35:30 Completing the escapement, does it tick?
36:34 Cutting the winding stem to size
37:17 Putting the dial and hands back on the watch
40:38 Pressing the crystal into the bezel ring
41:05 Timegrapher results and a look at the watch on wrist

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@VWatchie Ай бұрын

"It keeps time about as well as a sundial in the dark" 😂Just brilliant! Thanks for a great video!

@watchmakerspecial516 Жыл бұрын

Great video! I thought, oh here we go again, just another wannabe so called watchmaker guy on youtube making a video doing watches for views with poor watch service work and lack of high quality tools but after 10 minutes in the video, you are the best hobbyist I have seen on youtube. You take your watch service/repair very seriously, you got good set of hand skills with handing with watch parts and you carried out your work like as a professionally with care, attention, taking your time, and not rushing it , also you use a mainspring winders tool and glass press and so on, you mentioned that you are hobbyist at the end of the video, which is great, unlike many others on youtube. Which is refreshing actually. I'm not easily impressed but you impress me and it's very rare that I watched the whole video. You got yourself a subscriber from me . Well done :)

@Saving-Time Жыл бұрын

Thank you I very much appreciate that. I'm looking to improve my skill, I still have a lot to learn. I just try and go about any service with respect for the people that that did the work before me. I'm a long way away from the level of skill I've seen you demonstrate on your own channel. Again thanks for the kind words.

@menw7470 Жыл бұрын

Well you have to start somewhere and all are not blessed with buckets of money to buy expensive tools which have probably been made in China anyway.

@nikolaslarson6891 Жыл бұрын

I must say, you are very didactic while explaining your proceedings. You take time to explain your errors which very few of your colleagues actually do. Your editing, the use of microscopic views and several cameras at the same time are simply brilliant. A treat!

@Saving-Time Жыл бұрын

Thank you very kind of you to say. Glad you enjoyed it.

@thomasgabriel2213 Жыл бұрын

Another great video! And yes, please do a " hands" video. I'm sure I am not the only one who would enjoy it. Keep up the great work.

@Saving-Time Жыл бұрын

I recently acquired an antique screw polisher so there will be a hands and screw blueing video at some point. Glad you liked this one it's a cool watch.

@rossjackson3670 Жыл бұрын

Really enjoy your commentary. Good demonstration, illustration and information. Thank you

@Saving-Time Жыл бұрын

Thank you very much! Appreciate you taking the time to let me know.

@walther9161 Жыл бұрын

Awesome narration and the closeups are crazy!! Thank you for posting and explaining everything as you worked😊

@Saving-Time Жыл бұрын

My pleasure! Thanks for watching

@ZAZAMS Жыл бұрын

If I watch your videos all day I won't get bored. Thanks

@Saving-Time Жыл бұрын

Thank you I appreciate that. All the best David

@joeskeptical4762 Жыл бұрын

*A beautiful watch, GREAT WORK.*

@Saving-Time Жыл бұрын

Thanks, glad you enjoyed it.

@spiffydevo8434 Жыл бұрын

So great, you’ll have great success! I’m in! As a watchmaking student in Québec, Canada!

@Saving-Time Жыл бұрын

Thank you, good luck with the studies

@justinbjork5682 Жыл бұрын

Love your work, bruv. This channel’s got biiig potential! Stick with it! You’re already one of my new favorites!

@Saving-Time Жыл бұрын

I appreciate that! New video should drop soon. Cheers for the comment.

@SkyBlue-le7cd Жыл бұрын

Doxas are nice watches. The movement was incredibly shiny after cleaning. Thanks for another terrific video.

@Saving-Time Жыл бұрын

Glad you like them! The elma cleaning and rinsing agents are use are great highly recommend them to anyone thinking of giving this a go.

@pemhoman1754 Жыл бұрын

Hello David, I am still are a fan of your video’s and your honesty about your learning process! A few tips: Perhaps you will have to reconsider the oiling between the plates (so mutch). Under the ratchet wheel about half the amount just on the scrubbed off places and under the crown wheel just in the hole. The barrel arbor has to get some on the collet on top and bottom before closing the lid. After closing the barrelbridge, All other in between plates lubricating I would not recommend, just attracts dirt and will become sticky over time. Check this barrel arbor on excessive play, very important for the amplitude (getting the power cleanly in the train of wheels). I saw also that you have put the pallet fork in the cleaning basket with some “heavy” other components. Please when you use a watc cleaning machine, sort this type of delicate parts out and put the separate in a basket. Or else they will bump into each other and get damaged when the baskets are rotating. Again, keep up making the good video’s! Greetings from NL, Peter

@Saving-Time Жыл бұрын

Hello Peter again thank you for taking the time to give me some tips most helpful. I really do appreciate it.

@gpraceman Жыл бұрын

I like the narration and video angles. I would like to see restoration of the case and lume of the hands.

@Saving-Time Жыл бұрын

Thanks I will try and get to the hands in the next one. I have a zenith video on KZfaq where I do a full case restoration if you're interested. Glad you liked the video.

@agistan7764 8 ай бұрын

English isn't my first language, but I've been taught that antique usually refers to 100 or more years old and less than 100 guides to vintage. I'm just referring to your mainspring winding tools set. Otherwise, it's a great video and good editing and calm and helpful commenting.

@Saving-Time 8 ай бұрын

Antique means old and of value. This business of being 100 years old is just something antique dealers say; in truth, the actual English definition is just old. They used to say it was not an antique if it was made after 1830, but yes, it's just an antique dealer using the word for cataloguing items. Vintage means old and, importantly, typical of the period, so regardless of what the internet says, I would not use the words to define the age of something in years. I'm glad you enjoyed the video.

@dalegamble1173 4 ай бұрын

What a great video, highly enjoyable.

@Saving-Time 4 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it, thanks for letting me know

@robertjordan7323 Жыл бұрын

Love to see the luming of the hands. Thanks for posting.

@Saving-Time Жыл бұрын

I'll get to it, after having this on my wrist for a while the skeleton hands are too hard to see. Does look nice though.

@bobsyeruncle4841 7 ай бұрын

super nice resto- hope you do the case resto.

@Saving-Time 7 ай бұрын

This watch ended up with a friend I did lume the hands I may revisit it and do a case restoration if he wants it done :)

@johnbergen9663 5 ай бұрын

The watch looks great! Nice work! I recently bought a 50’s Doxa with similar dial.

@Saving-Time 4 ай бұрын

Great watch, good choice, sir.

@dale4034 11 ай бұрын

I think with all the work getting your watch married and in good order that you would be happier with a restored case. I have a case or two that I'd like to improve upon when I'm feeling courageous.

@Saving-Time 11 ай бұрын

I did restore the case on this one later it ended up as a gift for a good friend. Good luck with yours the plating is easy enough it's the prep work that's a pain in the arse

@dale4034 11 ай бұрын

@@Saving-Time one of my cases is for an alarm watch (Memvox model I forget the maker) with a GF case one of the stem holes is corroded out to about tripple size, figured to fill in the missing area with some gold solder and then clean it up with fine sand paper and perhaps a small file to get the hole just right. Unfortunately all the jewelers I've known over the years are retired.

@dale4034 11 ай бұрын

I just looked it up Le Coulter.

@troynasello2085 Жыл бұрын

Excellent video! I love the closeups in the circles. Im definitely watching your other videos. The case should have had a crown tube installed! The stem was a good length before you cut it. The tube keeps dust out & helps keep water out as it presses against the gasket in the crown. You can get boxes of case tubes on eBay for cheap. You just find the right size & press it in .

@Saving-Time Жыл бұрын

Thank you for the feedback I'm happy you enjoyed the video, to my knowledge this case never had a crown tube the stem actually came from a watch 2mm larger with the same movement, however that one was beyond saving unfortunately. I will double check the crown tube I could well be wrong and I appreciate you taking the time to let me know.

@troynasello2085 Жыл бұрын

@@Saving-Time ok. I may be wrong about that, but that would be odd. If there's no case tube then the crown should have a "nub" that fits in the case hole to prevent dust intrusion at least. The hole looks way bigger than the crown "nub". I've just never seen an unprotected system like that. The hole in the case is really big compared to the crown so I'm convinced there should be a case tube.

@supermenthol5531 11 ай бұрын

Excellent restoration 👍👍

@Saving-Time 11 ай бұрын

Many thanks!

@markehuss Жыл бұрын

Love the camera work (and the wry comments). Keep doing what you're doing. :)

@Saving-Time Жыл бұрын

Thank you sir appreciate the kind words. I have many more springs and barrel lids to blast into outer-space before i'm done :)

@mikebruegger8654 Жыл бұрын

Generally when you see wear marks under the ratchet wheel, it's a good chance the bushing or bushings are worn and need attention. Always check for excessive side shake as it will never run great when worn.

@Saving-Time Жыл бұрын

Thanks Mike I really appreciate the advice, nice of you to to take the time.

@MrLukealbanese Жыл бұрын

Great channel, would like to see a case resto on it!!!

@Saving-Time Жыл бұрын

Thank you I did a case restoration on a Zenith kzfaq.info/get/bejne/oM1li8V325bKqWw.html full electroplate and some damage repaired. I'll be doing more in the future. Glad you enjoyed it.

@kraftfamilyadventures2100 9 ай бұрын

I'd enjoy seeing a full case restoration on this watch. I think the case looks a little beat up.

@Saving-Time 9 ай бұрын

This watch now lives with a friend of mine, birthday gift. My latest video on the Gruen has a case restoration but i think you have seen that one as well :)

@jimgoodman1845 Жыл бұрын

Watched content and compelled to Subscribe... thanx4sharing, enjoyed

@Saving-Time Жыл бұрын

Much appreciated glad you enjoyed it

@ABC-rh7zc Жыл бұрын

Please do the case as well!

@Saving-Time Жыл бұрын

I'll be doing another case restoration soon. If you have not seen it I do one in my Zenith video the full electroplate if you're interested.

@professorredfox Жыл бұрын

Excellent work! I was wondering if you were going to realize when you were putting the keyless works together that the setting lever wasn’t on 😂. I’ve been hesitant to seek out Doxa watches, but I think you’ve convinced me there’s nothing to be afraid of, so long as the whole movement is in there haha

@Saving-Time Жыл бұрын

I put the setting leaver back and then did not put it into the edit. I only noticed when I was watching it back on KZfaq. I was hoping no one would notice lol well spotted. The older Doxas are good, modified ETA movements for the most part, nice looking watches. Avoid the stuff from the 70s like the plague or at least I would. And yes try and get one with a whole movement :D

@professorredfox Жыл бұрын

@@Saving-Time noted :)

@vac65 8 ай бұрын

Yessssss, go and do the case.

@Saving-Time 8 ай бұрын

I do a case in my Gruen video if you want to check that out kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Y7uEfcSq05vOXYE.html

@LCMNUNES1962 Жыл бұрын

EXCELENTE SERVIÇO 👍👍👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏 🇧🇷

@Saving-Time Жыл бұрын

Thank you

@Gary-Seven-and-Isis-in-1968 7 ай бұрын

Yes, I would like to see these hands re-lumed and a full case restoration. It is a beauty. 👍🏼 eBay is always a risk when buying watches to fix and there are plenty of liars out there. Luckily I've only been tricked a couple of times and by English sellers funnily enough. All I do is give them really nasty feedback reviews and watch them scream about the injustice of it all. 😂 They know they're selling scrap and not worthy of repair, this is why they are selling it on in the first place.

@Saving-Time 7 ай бұрын

eBay is a minefield alright, I do a case replate in my Gruen video along with a hand lume if you are interested.

@ryno101 3 ай бұрын

I have the same watch!

@curingabettoni4310 Жыл бұрын

Belo trabalho , graciez(Brasil)

@Saving-Time Жыл бұрын

You're welcome thanks for the comment.

@kevindegliesposti8876 9 ай бұрын

Hi, very beautiful job.. like your video. Would ve amazing to have your process to clean the part with the ultrasonic cleaner. 🙏🙏

@Saving-Time 9 ай бұрын

Thank you! I'll get to it, maybe in the next video.

@kevindegliesposti8876 9 ай бұрын

@@Saving-Time would be amazing 💪

@rogers531 9 ай бұрын

Hi David I have a almost Goliath

@stefantrzoska 10 ай бұрын

Nice camera work

@Saving-Time 10 ай бұрын

Thank you so much 😀

@motovlogsindonesia Жыл бұрын

Did you end up doing a case resto on this , well saved nice old watch

@Saving-Time Жыл бұрын

Not yet but i will be doing one on the next watch i do. There is a poll on which watch that will be here kzfaq.info/love/j3vrTAkDSfHkUZhduHKTPwcommunity If you have a preference let me know. Thanks for the kind words

@motovlogsindonesia Жыл бұрын

@@Saving-Time 👍👍👍👍

@menw7470 Жыл бұрын

How did you ID the movement as an ETA??

@Saving-Time Жыл бұрын

Most movements are marked, a lot of the time under the balance wheel on the mainplate. I looked up the markings on www.ranfft.de/ great site btw. I've also used a reverse google image search to try and identify movements and sometimes you can find the info from the brands back catalogue. In this case i had another Doxa with what looks like an identical movement that was actually marked ETA cal. 1147. www.ranfft.de/ though is a lifesaver for all sorts of info. Hope you enjoyed the video.

@menw7470 Жыл бұрын

@@Saving-Time Thanks for the link. I have a Doxa that needs repair and a caseback. I believe if I can identify the movement I will [at some future time as I am currently getting started in the hobby] I can get the it working but the caseback is a different story!!

@Saving-Time Жыл бұрын

I've done quite a few doxas at this point if you want you can DM me on Instagram I might know what the movement is. I also have one spare doxa caseback chances of it being the one you need are low but if you send me the size of the case and it's a match I'll post it to you. instagram.com/savingtime_yt/

@ygrbooks Жыл бұрын

👏👍👌🤫

@wsbill14224 3 ай бұрын

I have been shopping on eBay since 1997. My expectations are almost always satisfied and sometimes my expectations were exceeded. On a few occasions the seller went quiet and the item never arrived but eBay refunded my money. If you keep getting screwed on eBay you need to learn how to shop better.

@rogers531 9 ай бұрын

Sorry hit the wrong button.. I have a Goliath size Doxa. 1905. Just out of interest. How do purchase a movt to fit you' watch. Eta. List. I have a couple of pieces. Needing overhaul. Eternamatic. Navy star cyma. Etc.

@Saving-Time 9 ай бұрын

Normally just eBay for me If i need a new ETA www.cousinsuk.com/ sell them, it's a pain in the arse tbo.

@rogers531 9 ай бұрын

@@Saving-Time could you please send me a list of your movement for say an enicar watch and dials etc. Much appreciated John Rogers