Vintage Microphone Shootout

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vvundertone

vvundertone

5 ай бұрын

When producing music I often find myself searching for "color" I want to share a tip I have learned over the years. Many old forgotten vintage "sleeper" microphones yield impressive sounds, and are affordable! Here I go thru my collection, share the price and sound on a guitar cabinet, then acoustic guitar.
I will often pair them up with something more common (condenser mic) and blend the 2 signals together. Drop a comment on whats your favorite!
#vintageaudio #musicproduction

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@lordjimbers5278
@lordjimbers5278 4 ай бұрын
That D11H has such a unique sound with the guitar
@vvundertone
@vvundertone 4 ай бұрын
i feel like they are all my fav but that mic is particularly special!
@amscrtes
@amscrtes 4 ай бұрын
I just find your channel, feels like the spring sun
@vvundertone
@vvundertone 4 ай бұрын
that my friend is a lovely compliment, TY! natural light when creating, always!
@tomiansek2873
@tomiansek2873 Ай бұрын
Really appreciate this content and you taking the time to make it. Also great insights at the end 🙏
@TheAstronomyClub
@TheAstronomyClub 4 ай бұрын
Would’ve loved to hear how these sound for vocals too
@vvundertone
@vvundertone 4 ай бұрын
would love to do that
@lotzwatches
@lotzwatches 2 ай бұрын
Just found a pair of Akai M8 mics at an estate sale for $4, excited to try them out.
@vvundertone
@vvundertone 2 ай бұрын
You literally hit the holy grail!! And stereo to boot. I just used my m7 yesterday on a drum session and it literally transformed the sound night and day.
@legomovieman2
@legomovieman2 2 ай бұрын
Think you've finally been picked up by the algorithm! Amazing style and great camera work for such a clean audio deep dive.
@vvundertone
@vvundertone 2 ай бұрын
alright good to hear ty so much!!
@SamDayMe
@SamDayMe 3 ай бұрын
Man, just wanna say that this video is insanely good and you are on a good way with this youtube thing! Cool content as well! Keep up the great work :)
@vvundertone
@vvundertone 2 ай бұрын
Thank you! Looking forward to exploring more analog microcosm's with everyone!
@Albennnn
@Albennnn Ай бұрын
I love the sound of the D11H, will definitely be looking for one now!
@mazikself7152
@mazikself7152 4 ай бұрын
Love the attention to detail! Time to treasure hunt for mics now!
@vvundertone
@vvundertone 4 ай бұрын
Slauson swap meet, lets go!
@Tk-4444
@Tk-4444 4 ай бұрын
Great Sounds
@jarjar45123
@jarjar45123 2 ай бұрын
Such a cool video!
@lovers.cups.podcast
@lovers.cups.podcast 13 күн бұрын
love this video
@trajectoryunown
@trajectoryunown 18 күн бұрын
The fact you mentioned the smell of old products tells me all I need to know about how passionate you are about this old tech. I love this comparison. Really wish more were like this, straight to the point, no frills. I'm definitely checking out your other videos. I really liked that Shure 516EQ, and the Akai M7 was _remarkably_ crisp. Just... wow. If I knew about the Akai, I probably wouldn't have purchased an SM58. I've always understood but didn't quite realize just how much effort goes into digitally recreating a sound that can simply be recorded on an older mic. - The Telefunken TD25 would be perfect for recording chiptune or lo-fi stuff in the mid-range. - The D11H would be perfect for a voice actor to capture that old-school vibe that's unique to that early-mid 1900s radio era. - The EV 635A with the guitar reminds me of the home theme in Undertale. Makes me think of an old-school home, right before electricity became widespread. - The EV RE18 sounds a little bit more modern, but still gives an earlier vibe. This is a great reference. Thank you!
@vvundertone
@vvundertone 18 күн бұрын
Same! The AKAI really blew me away. I need to buy like 3 more of those! Your sm57 will still come in handy due to the fact its very focused in what it picks up. The AKAI gets a lil more from the sides which can be a good or bad thing depending on the source. The comment you made about the effort is so true. I used to spend so much time trying to make vintage sounding drum samples using a modern kit! Once I got access to an old 60s Rogers or Gretsch, its as if the clouds parted and universe opened up for me. No more chasing!
@Fl4ppers
@Fl4ppers 24 күн бұрын
You can hang that old Akai mic with a ladies nylon stocking and a couple of cable ties. You could also use a Jobo flex clamp that they sell to gopro people. Its got a 1/4 screw on it so with an adapter (1/4 female to 3/8 female) you an get it on a mic stand.
@OficialDanielSolares
@OficialDanielSolares 13 күн бұрын
Love this content. Thanks for sharing this tips!
@vvundertone
@vvundertone 6 күн бұрын
Thank you for watching!
@bartekdrumsandmore7040
@bartekdrumsandmore7040 2 ай бұрын
Great!
@KeithJCarberry1
@KeithJCarberry1 10 күн бұрын
i love this video. the mic and the speaker/headphone are the two most important parts of a signal chain, followed by the listener's ears. mics are part of the music
@vvundertone
@vvundertone 6 күн бұрын
I like this explanation very much!
@vaaalsongs4867
@vaaalsongs4867 4 ай бұрын
Been looking for some cheaper vintage mics with lots of character. Thanks for making this.
@vvundertone
@vvundertone 4 ай бұрын
For sure! I got another one repaired the other day I’ll have to trace the origins of and do more vids on 🎉
@soysos.tuffsound
@soysos.tuffsound 14 күн бұрын
¡yes yes yes yes yes!
@orphic-trench
@orphic-trench 4 ай бұрын
The 635A sounds surprisingly good on guitar! It sounds weird on vocals and even as a wurst mic it's not my favorite, but on guitar, it's really interesting. I have two, a modern one and a vintage one that came from Sterling Sound. I like thinking that maybe Bob Seger, George Clinton or Ted Nuggent used it. Thanks for posting!
@vvundertone
@vvundertone 4 ай бұрын
Love knowing the history of a vintage piece. Hang on to that forever!
@LucasBird
@LucasBird 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for such an inspiring video, great advice on learning the gear that you have and using it to create unique sounds! I’ve been playing around with microcassette dictaphones and discovered that one of my dictaphones can bypass tape and output the mic signal directly, so it can be used as a little crunchy omni microphone. Sounds like it’s bandpassed at 1.6k, distorts very easily, but works as a great character mic for acoustic guitar, vocals and piano. So one more tip is to find and read the manual for the old gear that you have, there may be some surprises 😂
@vvundertone
@vvundertone 4 ай бұрын
That is so cool, what model is it? I have an old Sony dictaphone..sounds absolutely ridiculous. 😮
@LucasBird
@LucasBird 4 ай бұрын
@@vvundertone it’s Panasonic RN-102, the only downside for me is it doesn’t have a mic input to record instruments directly, like some other dictaphones, but I use a 4-track for that in any case :)
@Thisiscawfee
@Thisiscawfee 2 ай бұрын
love the intention behind not only this video but all your others! also I need to know what kind of processing is on the drums (specifically the snare) on the tune in the outro of the video. its so clean and wide and caught me off guard in the best way possible.
@vvundertone
@vvundertone 2 ай бұрын
Thank you so much! So the snare processing for that was quite simple. Lately I been on a less is more tip. I just used a sennheiser e614 on the snare, then overhead EV 635's for width into Teac 2a mixer, light DBX 163 compression and in the computer (this is from memory, I could double down and find the session for more info) was Soundtoys decap, radiator and Arturia Dist-Tube. This snare is in our Gallery pack available on vvundertone.com its called "mint snare - ghost 6"
@customerservicerobot454
@customerservicerobot454 4 ай бұрын
would love to hear these on some electric guitar! also stoked to see what else you do with the longform format :)
@vvundertone
@vvundertone 4 ай бұрын
can def do that. with a looper pedal so its more "science" haha
@Coreteks
@Coreteks 4 ай бұрын
Excellent video, I'll hunt some of those mics down. subbed
@vvundertone
@vvundertone 4 ай бұрын
Ty! Always on the look out, never know where they might pop up
@dasczwo
@dasczwo 4 ай бұрын
nice one. just checked: none were available on the used market in germany today. glad i got my d190 and my d1200s for lofi
@vvundertone
@vvundertone 4 ай бұрын
Used markets are brutal lately. I recommend the thrift stores!
@dasczwo
@dasczwo 4 ай бұрын
thats were i got the d1200 for 10€...but even those become more and more boutiques... @@vvundertone
@ZifaM-gk2qx
@ZifaM-gk2qx 3 ай бұрын
Great video, thank you! Would love to hear vocals too 👏
@vvundertone
@vvundertone 3 ай бұрын
I def intend to make one!
@sl3102
@sl3102 3 ай бұрын
If that AKG D590 has the same capsule (looks like it) as the D190 it's gold on just about anything IMO, especially snare and guitar cabs.
@vvundertone
@vvundertone 2 ай бұрын
I am almost certain it is, I have heard they are the same but just haven't confirmed it. Do love this and the goose neck makes it actually more versatile when mic''ing weird angles.
@sl3102
@sl3102 2 ай бұрын
@@vvundertone Cool. I have four or five of the D190. Just love it!
@suedelacy
@suedelacy 2 ай бұрын
This❤
@teemo3193
@teemo3193 4 ай бұрын
The microphone sounds great! I have a question. How did you connect Telefunken TD-25 model to a regular audio interface? I have that model, but it's not easy to get a connector. I'd appreciate it if you could answer :) thank you
@vvundertone
@vvundertone 4 ай бұрын
What plug do you have on it? Mine has a XLR which appears to be modded.
@FreakingOutWithBillyHume
@FreakingOutWithBillyHume 3 ай бұрын
Love this!
@vvundertone
@vvundertone 3 ай бұрын
Appreciate it Billy! And thank you for your amazing Shuggie Otis video!
@jimilove7773
@jimilove7773 4 ай бұрын
Thanks! Thoughts on LaFayette Dynamic Microphone Model 99-4581 for vocs? Anyone? Or the monarch tm-20 [pretty much the same mic].
@vvundertone
@vvundertone 4 ай бұрын
Its lovely! I have a few experiences using and I enjoyed the sound. I will eventually get to making a similar video with a vocalist!
@blbnv
@blbnv 4 ай бұрын
Thank u for this! Could you share the exact M7 model that you have because I’m having trouble finding the right one? Thanks;)
@vvundertone
@vvundertone 4 ай бұрын
It seems to be quite rare because after this video I attempted to locate more and can only find m8. I think I will purchase anyways and then see if they are close enough. Will report back!
@blbnv
@blbnv 4 ай бұрын
@@vvundertone great thanks x
@bellemorelock4924
@bellemorelock4924 4 күн бұрын
It looks like these mics came as a kit to record in stereo on reel-to-reel. there are at least M5-M9 in the kit series and all the mics look identical. Although I did not see that base on any of them. It might be 1/4" stud similar to photography? Should be easy to check that out after you get one. The AKAI mics are 1/4" mono plug, and 50k Ohm. They sound very wide band and nice (to me), but that isn't really imparting sonic tone aligned to the purpose of the video. AKAI made large format (old studio) reel to reel with the same model numbers and it is possible these mics (the kits) were shipped with them when new. Some kits sold have spare parts for the R2R and tape splicing roll. Aside, the "American D11H" sounds like it would match the PA acoustics at old Baseball and Football games, meaning throw it through a DSP for huge field or stadium (but not the EQ) and you would have a nice reproduction to layer with crowd noise for 40s-70s era. Much better than what is in most movies/TV depicting this. I know this is not the purpose of the video either, but it made me think.
@bellemorelock4924
@bellemorelock4924 4 күн бұрын
2:13 wouldn't it be fun to intro PF's Dogs right here. Almost the same rhythm. actually am I imagining that paint on the gitbox has softened the sound? both keys and strings, I prefer the sound of the EV RE18 (for nothing in particular)
@vvundertone
@vvundertone 4 күн бұрын
I do dig me some early Floyd. And you are right the paint must of had some impact on the tone, never thought about it. RE18 is just a clean all arounder. Does the job!
@bellemorelock4924
@bellemorelock4924 3 күн бұрын
@@vvundertone it makes me think about vids where they compare $50, 500, 5000, $50k guitars, and a story a friend told about a broken neck on a rare axe. Some beautiful resonance on pricey guitars, BUT the harsh dry sound some cheap guitars have, too. When people comment on some "technical playing is great, but it doesn't have feeling", I think the guitar (or here, the mic/amp/EQ) is probably to blame, and they are at a loss to explain what they are somehow aware of. It would take recording notes all up and down the scale and running some FFT analysis to predict, but I bet in over 50/50 of cases a really cheap guitar could improve with the right amount of paint. It being (almost) evenly spread over the top is key (to it not creating new problems). It totally blows my mind they dont have silicon or nylon rings you can snap into the mouth to adjust the diameter, reduce interference, and similarly increase resonant mass. All this makes the guitar quieter, but if you are using a mic or practicing quietly that's no issue.
@olsonwaters4116
@olsonwaters4116 8 күн бұрын
very random, but could you please tell me what chords you were using on the guitar? Sounds alot like that one drop nineties song lol, i figured most of them out just trying to teach myself chord names after playing for 20 years smh
@vvundertone
@vvundertone 6 сағат бұрын
Sorry the delay, finally wrote em out. Emaj7 / Amaj7 / D7 / Gmaj7 / B7sus4 / B7 What song is it called? Also yeah I get you about the chords. Hard to retain all the info all the time :)
@Sam-gl7oq
@Sam-gl7oq 4 күн бұрын
Yo yo yooo where that Russian sub intercom mic or what ever it was from The old mixing studio????
@vvundertone
@vvundertone 4 күн бұрын
🫡 BIGMAC The Blunt Hunter! You know I still got that! I didn't include it in this video because you have to physically hold the button down, remember? Wild. Unless I can find a big enough clamp to bust it down.
@sambana88
@sambana88 21 күн бұрын
Where can you buy the akai m7 I don't see it listed on reverb or ebay?
@vvundertone
@vvundertone 21 күн бұрын
The m7’s tend to be extremely rare. I have a suspicion the easier to come by m8’s are not too different. But until I buy one I can’t 100% confirm. Soon I’ll invest in one so I can say for sure.
@sambana88
@sambana88 20 күн бұрын
@vvundertone do you need an XLR adapter for it because pictures show a quarter jack, which makes it a little confusing as to how to connect it to an interface
@vvundertone
@vvundertone 20 күн бұрын
They are usually connected via 1/4 inch. Most interfaces allow you to connect via 1/4. I use an UAD Apollo and it has works great. Some interfaces are sneaky and have only XLR but if you look close you can plug a 1/4 thru the XLR!
@sambana88
@sambana88 20 күн бұрын
@@vvundertone your right. It worked with mine.
@erikarabie
@erikarabie 2 ай бұрын
You are a very handsome alien ❤
@vvundertone
@vvundertone 2 ай бұрын
Good least I’m not Dr Strange anymore 😉
@erikarabie
@erikarabie 2 ай бұрын
You have very intense facial features kinda like Bowie
@flackodabaptist
@flackodabaptist 2 ай бұрын
man... i cant find a single one of these for that price lol
@vvundertone
@vvundertone 2 ай бұрын
Are you looking just online? I did not buy any of these online. I got extremely lucky and met a fellow minded musician who simply had too many microphones and we worked out a trade. I recommend being patient and looking on Facebook marketplace / Offerup and especially thrift or Estate sales where the prices are much more reasonable. Likewise if theres any mic in particular you want let me know and I'll keep an eye out!
@flackodabaptist
@flackodabaptist 2 ай бұрын
@@vvundertone ahh yee makes sense okay Ty for the response
@bellemorelock4924
@bellemorelock4924 4 күн бұрын
you can't just walk into "Best Buy" and grab something made 75 years ago. Not to mention there were never so many mics made as things like radios, irons, fans, toasters.. So its a thin market like any other. This video is so useful.. unless you buy it, or have a collector who can do this, you have no idea what they sound like. And I love that this is for someone who wants to make music, not someone who is "collecting shiny things" or wants THE Rolex of the genre. You could spend years and waste loads of time (pre-internet life amirite) collecting old mics by the dozen to find out what you learn here for free in 10 minutes. I learnt the humble AKAI sounded pretty good for voice and music. (although not unlike any decent studio mic does) I wish there were 30-50 more mics in this video, for people who are looking for sound coloring.
@johnnydilelio5615
@johnnydilelio5615 4 ай бұрын
Are the TD25 and TD20 similar?
@vvundertone
@vvundertone 4 ай бұрын
They are fairly similar, a friend of mine has the TD20 and its sound is more focused. Better at rejecting sounds around it, but due to this effect worse for room sounds in my opinion.
@johnnydilelio5615
@johnnydilelio5615 4 ай бұрын
@@vvundertone in your opinion, do you believe it'd make for a decent vocals mic?
@davidpaz6397
@davidpaz6397 4 күн бұрын
WHERE IS DINKYYY
@lockolocolocke476
@lockolocolocke476 Ай бұрын
Akai M7? kzfaq.info/get/bejne/m5-kpMyQnLGuqJc.html
@vvundertone
@vvundertone Ай бұрын
I haven’t used one of these before but I assume they are very similar. Look almost identical just different name perhaps?
@Goonamus
@Goonamus Ай бұрын
He looks like the type of dude that would be into vintage microphones lol
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