A very old Sony Video 8 Camera goes up on the bench
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@Bigmatt55333 жыл бұрын
This isn't about the video, but I'd like to thank you. I discovered your channel 5 years ago, and rushed to local goodwill and picked up some vcrs to clean mode switches. Fast forward to now, I know a guy who runs a karaoke business who blew up the right channel on both of his vocopro 900 PA amplifiers on the same night. To make it better, he couldn't find a professional to service them. I offered my amateur services, and now they're back in smokey bars doing work! Without your willingness to share your expertise, and the variety of devices you repair, I would never of been able to figure this stuff out. So thank you! I'll watch your channel for as long as you continue to make videos.
@sunnybhai19047 ай бұрын
Amazing! Thanks for opening up this machine and sharing your knowledge with all of us. It’s a such a service!
@12voltvids7 ай бұрын
I have a rarer camera and older than this. The very first betamovie. It was the one that coined the term camcorder. A combination camera and recorder. 1983, first consumer camcorder ever. The pros already had betacam but it was huge and cost a fortune.
@manueldi_773 жыл бұрын
I am always amazed when I see such early cameras and compare it then with my current Android phone beeing able to record 4k 30p videos. Very interesting video as always and I enjoyed to have historical insights into vintage technology.
@12voltvids3 жыл бұрын
What? Your phone can only do 4k@30? Must be a really old phone. My 3 year old ancient Samsung can do 4k@60 and the new ones 8k. I did a video a few years ago on my phone and couldn't believe how good it looked. That's why I just shake my head when I hear people talk about wanting to still shoot videos on this antique gear. Only thing i see them good for is playback of old tapes.
@paulb4uk3 жыл бұрын
@@12voltvids My phone only does 4k at 30 but a budget priced phone the high end phones are really going all out now with the 8k and 108 mega pixel sensor,s
@rawr519193 жыл бұрын
@@12voltvids Artistic effect these days, I know of a few other good tech KZfaqrs that have similarly recorded footage
@12voltvids3 жыл бұрын
@@rawr51919 Do the artistic effects in post.
@stefanbol40783 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video! Normally I don't like the "camera" ones, but I really like your side stories about UPS, FedEx and stuff. Or when you're bashing eBay... Very enjoyable and really like your temper! I would have the same emotions going on when some organisation (or person of that specific organisation) isn't that co-operative. Keep it up!
@12voltvids3 жыл бұрын
Got to love all the buck passing and incompetence. The guy at the local UPS store basically just blew me off because he could. The lady at the shipping counter was kind of bitchy but at this point I didn't care. I had already wasted enough time on something I didn't make a penny on. Most would say it's beyond repair just recycle it this person wanted the dead unit back so they could put it up on eBay for parts. They pay shipping both ways it just annoyed me that I'm the one running around spending 3 hours getting it shipped which is what it cost me in the long run by the time I got home 3 hours.
@KylesDigitalLab Жыл бұрын
Hey Dave, I got a Canon VM-E1 which is Canon's first 8mm camcorder from 1985. It will load a tape and fast forward and rewind but it won't play or record, it will go into shutdown after about one second. It uses the original 8mm loading design which is the same in this camera.
@jarekjagielski3663 жыл бұрын
Great video, as always, loads of experience to learn from. I actually have this model, and also the even higher one, with digital stereo sound - should probably have a look at them and try to bring them back to life.
@craggercragger89893 жыл бұрын
Oh, man. Thank you for posting this, starting to watch it now!
@craggercragger89893 жыл бұрын
Wow. I love the tuner unit. I saw one of those tuner units, or a similar one, which was in a "home of the future" poster. The monitor looked very similar, or was, a Sony Pro Feel. What a totally different era from todays.
@Johnathan_Waters3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to show this one off. Too bad about the camera repair, but I understand that it sometimes is not worth the risk to the machine to attempt a repair (or maybe just not worth the massive effort involved). I REALLY love the design of this era of cameras and electronics in general really. So appealing and attractive, and if it's Sony "It's a SONY..." then durable too!!
@salvatorev_3 жыл бұрын
This camcorders made from 80s’ but have a good capacitors !!!!! Very clear pictures playback!
@Querenciatv3 жыл бұрын
Awesome Work 👍
@ianhand50063 жыл бұрын
I have the CCD-V100E too. I should dig it out and try it out.
@ricfair99193 жыл бұрын
A blast from the past. They started at the lens and built the camera around it! From an era when SONY was a quality product! Nice picture from that vintage unit. To sell or not to sell.
@12voltvids3 жыл бұрын
Everything is for sale if the price if right.
@dannylightyear31082 жыл бұрын
And back in 2019 i had 8video recorder made in japan as well.
@fadhlematrook12483 жыл бұрын
this first time i see this special thread mechanic in this unit. Amazing from sony and all metal
@09danstart3 жыл бұрын
I have the Sony ccd-V8AF-E video 8 camcorder, it was my grandads, still stored in it original suitcase thing.. still works fine but the picture is like yours on the camera.. I've not taken it apart yet.. I also have a battery contact issue sometimes.. the Sony book says 1985 in the corner
@rawr519193 жыл бұрын
Yours is even older than his by a few years, it's rarer than hen's teeth now
@09danstart3 жыл бұрын
@@rawr51919 yes it is, and still looks like nearly new.. it never seen much use
@weerobot3 жыл бұрын
Love The Rare Ones..
@12voltvids3 жыл бұрын
Wait for a real high end one next.
@patrickjmorgan3 жыл бұрын
Damn. I’ll probably buy a v50 now I’ve watched this most excellent tutorial. More stuff to end up in the loft!
@vitorcouto33223 жыл бұрын
I have a camera like that one. Still works fine. It's the model V100-E. European version. I'm using it to convert video 8 tapes to digital.
@12voltvids3 жыл бұрын
Of course it does. Built before capacitorgate.
@CordDaForceRAPSTAR3 жыл бұрын
@@12voltvids I can’t understand what they were thinking installing those caps that would eventually leak over time. You said they had fish oil in them, right?
@12voltvids3 жыл бұрын
@@CordDaForceRAPSTAR The same idiots built a 6000 camera that can not be opened to repair it if the mechanism won't close due to a bad switch. Problem is you have to get it open to access that switch, and here lies the problem.
@Oufg103f3 жыл бұрын
Super cool 😎
@sunnybhai19046 ай бұрын
So I purchased this camera for parts or not working. Seems to be operating but had the same kind of milky look to the image you had. Turns out it wasn’t lubricant on the lens (the lens pieces were actually very clean) but appears to be a little cubic blue/teal piece of glass, maybe 1.3x1x1 centimeters, that rests in front of the “sensor” near the back of the lens. Not sure the precise terminology for these older camcorders. But the little cubic glass “shield” is removable and appears to be comprised of three layers of glass. The middle layer of this piece has this smudged look and can’t be cleaned. Could be burned in possibly? Either way, seems impossible to repair without having a replacement. It was also very difficult to put back together but managed to do so the same day.
@hjorte. Жыл бұрын
At 3:47 it actually turns on briefly.
@lord_doomsday3 жыл бұрын
I think that was first ttl focusing the v8 was infrared optical focusing.
@joey_after_midnight3 жыл бұрын
I wonder if the Adapter is a combo battery and power adapter. Perhaps it had to charge up before it could provide enough amperage to power the camera. Not a full charge, but enough to provide the wattage it needed. Back in the day we had line powered and battery powered UPS. The more expensive converted AC to DC and powered from the DC battery not the regulator.
@12voltvids3 жыл бұрын
The adapter could power the camera or be plugged into the charge adapter that could hold 3 batteries and charge them sequentially. The tuner unit can charge the battery in the camera and an external battery again sequentially.
@andy_rulz20003 жыл бұрын
My old boss had one of those Timer Tuner units which he got as a set with a separate video deck and separate Camera the Timer Tuner unit was a TT-V8E which had a 21 Pin SCART connector on the back, the Video deck was a EV-C8 and the camera was a CCD-M8E. His TT-V8E had a 24 Hour clock, and the EV-C8 had an SP/LP switch on it as well.
@12voltvids3 жыл бұрын
During Expo 86 the shop I worked at rented cameras to people going to expo. They were the ccdm8 with the evc8 to play. Most people would bring it back and have us copy the tape. That evc8 i have is from one of those rentals after they all broke.
@andy_rulz20003 жыл бұрын
@@12voltvids At my old job we used to copy Video 8 tapes to VHS and DVD for our customers which we used the EV-C8 to copy them using the same RF adaptor as the one you have and it had its own power pack that plugged into were the battery would go
@12voltvids3 жыл бұрын
@@andy_rulz2000 I have an evc8. Didn't you see it at the end.
@andy_rulz20003 жыл бұрын
@@12voltvids I did see that yes
@video99couk3 жыл бұрын
Feels quite a lot like one of the later Betamovie CCD camcorders.
@12voltvids3 жыл бұрын
Betamovie were record only devices. Perhaps I will try to fix mine one day.
@video99couk3 жыл бұрын
@@12voltvids I have three of them! Last time I looked, at least one worked. But I was referring to the physical layout.
@zx8401ztv3 жыл бұрын
What a beast, and the deck works perfect :-D I don't think you will see another one in such a good condition dave. The deck looks solid, Not like the crappy camcorder bean can decks that fail if you stare at it too hard :-D. A cute reverse wrap beta, ive never seen that before.
@12voltvids3 жыл бұрын
Not a reverse wrap beta. That is the original beta threading design. They changed to the clock wise wrap on the slotted drum on the sl2000 and beyond machines as it made the mechanism much more compact but far less reliable.
@Vintaginside3 жыл бұрын
@@12voltvids That slotted drum design added friction to the tape path and, among other factors, is the reason of poor rewind and fast forward on aging 711B based decks.
@12voltvids3 жыл бұрын
@@Vintaginside No, the 711B decks had poor rewind was due to the upper drum being polished by video tape, especially the super smooth high grade tape. Solution was to remove the upper drum and use some gritty kitchen cleanser to remove the mirror like shine and reinstall. On some machines, namely the SL2000, 2500 and 2700 with it's direct drive tape hubs, the inertia and flywheel effect of the motor rotors causes tape slap that can snap the tape, or rip the guides out. Those 3 models were the worst ones sony made.
@Vintaginside3 жыл бұрын
@@12voltvids Great, let me apply that trick!
@Dr.-Smart3 жыл бұрын
the fog you see , is the blue glass square in front of the ccd , its the infrared blocker and other filter slices glued together , the glue gets bad , if your carefull enough you can separate the slices and clean off the glue , or if u want to go the cheap way , get a cheap scrap ccd-f camera and salvage the filter square out of it for this unit
@12voltvids3 жыл бұрын
That or lubricant has leaked our of the iris in the lens. That was common. Especially when people left their camera in their car. I ruined the lens on my little HDV camera when i did a 4 day motorcycle trip and had it in the saddle bag with luggage. Aparantly even at freeway speeds it gets very hot inside both from the sun and the fact it sits directly over a hot muffler. I let Sony deal with that because i had left the business by that point. They had to put a newebs on it. It was fogged up like this and also would not zoom.
@allenschmitz96443 жыл бұрын
I had a sony Hi8 and loved it...but not going back to that format any time soon..not even for retro's sake.
@12voltvids3 жыл бұрын
They are good for 1 thing only. Playing old tapes to digitize.
@allenschmitz96443 жыл бұрын
@@12voltvids did just that in 2010.
@stphinkle3 жыл бұрын
Remember this from when I was in elementary school.
@VSigma7253 жыл бұрын
I have a complete CCD-V1 I found at a thrift store, with all the accessories, the hard-case, and the manuals. Must be at least of similar vintage to this.
@12voltvids3 жыл бұрын
V11 is a few years newer and has the bad caps in it.
@VSigma7253 жыл бұрын
@@12voltvids No, not V11, V1.
@VSigma7253 жыл бұрын
The manual has a copyright date of 1986 so I'm guessing it was released in 1986 or 1987.
@OldSonyMan3 жыл бұрын
Thanks to my policy of buying anything Sony (if it's cheap enough) I have one of those tuner/timer units. I think I paid about £1 (plus postage) and it is in its original box. I don't know if it works but at least it's not in landfill , one day I may get a camera to go with it.
@OutandAbout13 жыл бұрын
Fantastic 👍
@lakmal74172 жыл бұрын
I like it very much,Unfotunatly these devices are not available?
@vetrov8883 жыл бұрын
Cool!
@alanarmstrong23233 жыл бұрын
Wow !
@KylesDigitalLab Жыл бұрын
I just got one of these. No tape movement and the power zoom doesn't work.
@paulb4uk3 жыл бұрын
back when Sony made quality items in japan with proper wired connectors none of the cheap and nasty flat ribbon cables that fall to bits after a few insertions still a nightmare to work on these camera,s not something most of us could repair .i recently carried a free sony 40 inch lcd 40 inch tv home after turning off the usless light sensor it had a really good picture for a 14 year old lcd only a 720p panel though could show 1080p by the way of downscaling but picture was stretched connected to laptop and no setting on hdmi for normal mode on all inputs apart from hdmi so i gave it away to a mate to sell 23619 hours use from the service manual if it was not for the fact it could not do normal mode in the zoom settings i would have kept it ,not sure if i am getting weak but 25.5 kg felt heavy to carry the few streets away i got it model was a kdl 40d3000 a good looking older set with front mounted speakers ,i wish new tv,s had front mounted speakers sounded so much better .
@12voltvids3 жыл бұрын
I have a monitor that is well past 60,000 hours. Try that on a new one.
@detectivedreams3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing all this love, i really pleased watching your channel. I would like to ask you about a terrible mistake related with powering an old camcorder like this one with a DIY adapter, specially when you plug into an acid battery and by mistake the positive and negative terminals get together (and some sparkles appear). I had two working camcorder which doesn't power up after i committed this fatal error. Is this a lethal fatality or could be repaired? Thanks again!
@dannylightyear31082 жыл бұрын
I have a panasonic camera also made in japan...
@ronski. Жыл бұрын
hello, My father has the CCD-V110 sony video 8 pro. It won't power on from the power adapter, and i think his battery packs are way long gone. were you able to get this camera reassembled and back together working? I'm trying to even see if I can access the power contacts without having to break everything completely down. I just need it to power the vcr/player portion really. the contacts don't look too oxidized/corroded, but they were scuffed to help the power on issue....with no luck.
@12voltvids Жыл бұрын
Yes it's back together.
@ronski. Жыл бұрын
@@12voltvids you mentioned that it took a little bit of time to put back together. is there any thing that stumped you, that I should look out for? I'll probably begin the teardown soon if I cannot locate a surrogate hi8/video 8 cam to view this stack of 8mm tapes. thanks in advance
@XtremeKremaTor3 жыл бұрын
That was a definition of a gesture of a good will (or lack of it). You went the extra mile (literally) to make the client happy, multi billion dollar company couldn't. I'm sure that even if slightly underpaid, they wouldn't loose money on the transaction. Just not customer oriented they are.
@12voltvids3 жыл бұрын
What ups? Idiots all of them. They sure don't have any trouble billing for cross border broker fees which this guy will likely get. Thing is he sent it by mail and then when he wanted it back sent me a prepaid weighbill that was being delivered to a company. Hmmmm, I would think using a company account. Oh well it is out of my hands now.
@memyname17713 жыл бұрын
Do you have any clue as to what you are doing?
@12voltvids3 жыл бұрын
To the guy that is too spineless to leave his comments up, posts them then deletes them so nobody else can see, well here is your comments to others can see it. John Tulipani Regarding your UPS comments. It is your responsibility to make sure the package weight and box size are correct. Did you discuss those details with the guy who sent you the label to make sure it was all correct? If not it is your problem, not UPS OK the guy sent it to me via USPS, and it was returned in the same box as it was sent in. SO obviously he knows the size. He sent me an email with the return data, so I have to assume it is correct, but again that is HIS problem not mine. He is lucky I even bothered to take it to the depot. Why should I have to spend 3 hours sending back a broken un-repairable receiver that has been sitting in my garage since last year. I emailed him about 6 times asking what he wanted to do with it and every time was, how much to fix. My standard reply was it's not worth fixing (was one of those onkyo with the bad DSP chips). I gave him a final email a week ago telling him I was throwing it out and then he wanted it shipped back. I asked him to pay the freight and he sends me a UPS weigh bill. I didn't charge him a penny to look at it.
@enzoperruccio3 жыл бұрын
Looks more like an 8mm vcr with a camera tacked on at the back haha.
@12voltvids3 жыл бұрын
That is basically what it is.
@enzoperruccio3 жыл бұрын
@@12voltvids I can only imagine how confortable it must be to carry this beast around. Really makes you appreciate the smaller cameras that came in afterwards, and even those feel a bit heavy to me.
@12voltvids3 жыл бұрын
@@enzoperruccio well it was certainly better then what was before it. A camera just as heavy and large and a seperate portable recorder for the other shoulder that weighed even more.
@Julian-xb1se Жыл бұрын
I have the exact camera but from fujix.
@mik48543 жыл бұрын
I love this camera, i have the CCD V100E from my parentss(im french) and im using it to convert all the tape of my family that they have record between 1987 to 2001. It still works perfecly. I Just have a big problem, a tape had brock in the camera during convertion, and i Can't remove it... Do you know how i can remove the tape manually ? I have a lot more tapes to convert.. i will be gratefull if you have the answer 😁 Great video by the way, and sorry for my english 😅
@MikinessAnalog3 жыл бұрын
as soon as I saw the first cam result, I thought this is going to be so ugly, not the cam, but the work involved to get it back to specs. LOL
@przemassLU Жыл бұрын
I have one lik this but auto zoom and autofocus won't work :-(
@ninosubotic04 Жыл бұрын
I have the same Camera (with all accessories including case) but it won’t power on can someone pls help me what may couse That problem? Camera is in great condition and I cleaned the contact but no luck :(
@12voltvids Жыл бұрын
It isn't worth repair. Sorry. You would spend more getting this going that it is worth. How much parhaps 500 bucks or more. For s camera worth about 10.00
@MrDavidyaz Жыл бұрын
hi nice videos-i have an old sony ccd v100 pro and want to watch my old v8 videos-have clinch cable(white red yellow) to hdmi cabel and want to watch by tv or laptop-but can not maybe can you help thank you
@12voltvids Жыл бұрын
Does it play on the viewfinder? I have not had much luck with those av to HDMI converters. Do other analog devices play through the HDMI converter. Also i don't know if any laptops that have HDMI in. It has always been HDMI out to connect an external monitor.
@MrDavidyaz Жыл бұрын
@@12voltvids yes i can see through viewfinder....if i switch just camera can see in viewfinder but no in tv or laptop
@12voltvids Жыл бұрын
@@MrDavidyaz have you checked that av to HDMI adapter with a known good video source like a VCR
@ford15463 жыл бұрын
Hello. Interesting video. I have to ask you. It's a problem I've discovered that I do not think many people know about. When I connected a stereo potentometer between the amplifier and the audio source in the usual proper way. and Short both GND and measure between both center R. L. Pin and turn the potentiometer to one of the sides, you measure short circuit? you get mono sound. More and more mono the higher volume you have! I do not think many people know about this. would have been nice if you could say something about this? i have a preamplifier board and potentiometer is NOT connected in the traditional way. They are connected using 2 pins of the potentiometer per channel. This to avoid this problem I mentioned Sendt fra min Huawei-mobiltelefon
@amatorev2 жыл бұрын
I received this camera today that I bought from eBay, everything works except the electric zoom and the electric focus, I can only zoom and focus manually! what could be wrong? capacitor on the board that supplies the motor to turn the zoom?
@12voltvids2 жыл бұрын
No it's even simpler than that. 2 little tiny belts that drive the zoom and focus mechanism from the little dc motors.
@amatorev2 жыл бұрын
@@12voltvids are the belts cut?
@12voltvids2 жыл бұрын
@@amatorev probably turned to goo
@amatorev2 жыл бұрын
@@12voltvids so I can open it to see if the straps are damaged or out of place?
@12voltvids2 жыл бұрын
@@amatorev yes if you open the case the belts are accessable.
@KylesDigitalLab3 жыл бұрын
The TT-V8 isn't that rare, I managed to get one for like $35 on eBay. Maybe I got lucky
@alanwong39803 жыл бұрын
It is very interesting toy. Is it PCM sound? BTW I have CCD-VX1. I think it is same as VX3.
@12voltvids3 жыл бұрын
It will do pcm if the optional pcm adapter was plugged in. Yes there was a pan available they looked just like the tuner that would charge batteries and allow pcm audio dubbing and it had a tuner as well if i remember so it would turn the camera into a hi fi stereo VCR.
@alanwong39803 жыл бұрын
Sony was very cool at the time. Not today :(
@12voltvids3 жыл бұрын
The CCDV220 had PCM sound
@michaelturner44573 жыл бұрын
Has 12voltvids done a repair on someone's Betamovie? That could be interesting.
@12voltvids3 жыл бұрын
I have a beta movie that does not record. I have not gotten around to repairing it. It's a high-end gcs1 professional.
@rawr519193 жыл бұрын
@@12voltvids ooh, that'd be an interesting one to see on the bench!
@mraaron15843 жыл бұрын
shouldn't the guy have already knew the size and weight of the box from when he shipped the item in to u. sounds like the ups workers in your depot are just stupid. i've sent a couple were the weight was off a tiny bit i dont got a scale so i just guesstimate ups just reweighs it in when it gets to the depot and makes the adjustment on my invoice.
@12voltvids3 жыл бұрын
Guys in the states he shift it to me by post and when it was ready to go back I went to the post office got it weighed and got him the price to ship it he asked for the price I told him the wait which in Canada is in kilograms the dumbass didn't convert it to pounds and bought postage for a package waiting kilograms which of course there's 2.2 lb to 1 kg therefore he was way off and that's probably why he thought it was so much cheaper to use UPS but you see now because he sent it to my PO box and UPS can't deliver to a PO box it can't come back to me therefore if they can't get it to him they will throw it away because I left it on the counter and walked out and basically gave UPS the raised middle finger as I left. I hate DHL UPS and FedEx because they shove their corporate dick up every Canadian's butt with every delivery that crosses the border with processing fees that cost many times more than the item being received. I had a $2 part sent to me and it arrived with $37.50 in broker fees. Just reading on CBC news today that there's going to be a class action lawsuit against DHL for these fees I can't wait to sign up and put these bastards out of business for ripping us off all these years
@mraaron15843 жыл бұрын
@@12voltvids most of the shipping companies will let u input kg or lb so that's on him the ups workers though should have taken the package they are to just reweigh and stuff and then they adjust it and put the higher amount on the persons account that's how its always worked for me. ups can be alot cheaper to the us at least if u use a 3rd party to get discounts. i use one called netparcel i can ship like a 2 pound package to the us via ups for $9--10 cad with full tracking canada post would charge me $13 to do the same without tracking and $18 with tracking and it takes alot longer to get there. us customers don't need to worry to much about the fees because there gov isn't as greedy as ours and let them import upto 800 usd before they require the package to be taxed so ups/fedex ect charge them nothing as long as the package is under 800. were as us even after the usmca thing they only upped it from 20 cad to 40 cad so if the package is under 40 cad u dont get no fees over then u get raped by the shipping company. there was a petition sometime in like 2016 that was sent to the gov over 200k people signed asking that they raise the limit to something sane like $200 and all they did was raise it to $40 woooo. ctv did a news piece on it and i guess because they waste there time collecting tax on packages of such low value it cost us tax papers 3x more money to pay the customs workers then the amount of tax there taking in for collecting the tax on these packages.
@12voltvids3 жыл бұрын
@@mraaron1584 Got nothing to do with tax. FedEx DHL and UPS has been F---ing canadians up the a55 for so long. Even when there is NO tax at all, on a 3.00 part, they charge 25.00 broker fee, which is subject to tax $2.50 and then add an additional 10.00 as a "loan fee" because they paid the tax on the broker charge. So now that 3.00 part has 27.50 added. It happened to me multiple times. I had a defective LED light bulb and called the 800 number and the manufacture sent me a free replacement, and then the 37.50 bill arrives, and if you tell them to shove it up their a55 they send to collections and then some d1ckhead calls at 4:30 in the mordning demanding payment.