Viper Advanced PVP Guide Amazing Potential FFXIV

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SALAMANDER

SALAMANDER

9 күн бұрын

Welcome back to the first new Advanced guide in FFXIV Dawntrail, this time I will be going over the Viper a roll which has a mix off other rolls, and is quite the technical class to learn with some amazing potential.
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@mrziggz9497
@mrziggz9497 8 күн бұрын
I’ve been anticipating this video since early access release! Thank you for continued diligence for us that enjoy pvp.
@salamanderYT
@salamanderYT 8 күн бұрын
Your welcome glad you enjoyed :D
@Triage_3
@Triage_3 8 күн бұрын
Been LOVING Viper in PvE but have been struggling and feeling useless in PvP. I hope this video helps me fix that. Thanks for the hard work!
@salamanderYT
@salamanderYT 7 күн бұрын
Nothing some good old practice wont sort plus games are weird right now with the mix off everyone playing the new rolls and the other half throwing the match fast for exp XD give it a week or two a Viper should start feeling better
@stevepeart36
@stevepeart36 7 күн бұрын
I've been playing Viper for the last couple of days and have been having so much fun. I love diving in and using Snake Scales then backlash and Rattling Coil to reset Snake Scales.
@salamanderYT
@salamanderYT 7 күн бұрын
Been doing the same its so fun :D works so well on Onshal hakairs mid point :D
@stevepeart36
@stevepeart36 7 күн бұрын
@@salamanderYT when the enemy Dark Knights use salted earth is my favourite time to do it
@bobusan_duuuugnut-oh
@bobusan_duuuugnut-oh 3 күн бұрын
Been battle testing since prelaunch. The main issue with VPR in PVP, especially in CC, is the lack of stuns/slows/defense. Yeah you can get health back through snake scales but you are a sitting target. Get out of snake scales and stunned and get KO. Also the DPS output is so bad for VPR. If the opponent doesnt heal then yea, its a quick KO but if they use their defensive skills/heal, you run out of steam really fast. Since it cant 1V1 a MNK very well, it will continue to struggle and be one of the harder jobs to succeed in PvP. Its sad cus i think VPR is cool but bottom tiered.
@salamanderYT
@salamanderYT Күн бұрын
Agreed think given some time we will more then likely see some good buffs to vipers its feels like Reaper and Gunbreak when they started in 6.1 just 1 good patch away from perfection
@Xylus.
@Xylus. 8 күн бұрын
Oh yeah! I've been waiting for this. I haven't bought new expansion yet, but for pvp you gotta know what you're up against. Looking forward to the Picto guide next!
@salamanderYT
@salamanderYT 7 күн бұрын
I cant wait to do the Picto one it is just the new best caster right now :D
@novia8309
@novia8309 8 күн бұрын
Before watching your breakdown of the class was mentally making this class severely overcomplicated, something about audio cues feeling off in the middle of the mosh pit that is Frontline. This was really helpful in connecting the dots. Appreciated Salamander!
@salamanderYT
@salamanderYT 8 күн бұрын
Glad it could help :D I am curios if the old jobs will be getting this level off rework in 7.1
@sugarmilk28
@sugarmilk28 8 күн бұрын
Viper is the most squishy melee, but maybe because most people still havent figured out how play them. The lack off mitigation, stuns and shields is kinda sad. Also already saw premades using viper lol
@salamanderYT
@salamanderYT 8 күн бұрын
I think its for good reason Viper just on the edge off being too strong once players start getting clever with snake scales that will be the game changer seeing as you can reset it instantly as well :D. It had to happen Vipers follow up is much faster then Dragoon there's no way premades would not abuse it XD
@Omalb793
@Omalb793 8 күн бұрын
Love your pvp vids! Great quality
@salamanderYT
@salamanderYT 8 күн бұрын
Thanks very much glad you enjoy them :D
@Eddie_Gonzalez
@Eddie_Gonzalez 7 күн бұрын
Thank you so much for this, insta like!
@salamanderYT
@salamanderYT 7 күн бұрын
Glad it could help thanks for the like :D
@starmiz1740
@starmiz1740 8 күн бұрын
Viper PvP tl;dr: Push button - recieve LB guage
@salamanderYT
@salamanderYT 8 күн бұрын
Press button get paid do more stab stab :D
@v8046
@v8046 8 күн бұрын
Finally! I dont know how to play viper so I've been waiting for the vid
@salamanderYT
@salamanderYT 8 күн бұрын
Hopefully it helps :D its going to be a fun one to master
@mouakyle17
@mouakyle17 7 күн бұрын
another great video and one i was looking forward to. seems you came to the same conclusion as i did. treat it just like reaper and just like reaper needs an aggressive team, so too does the viper.
@salamanderYT
@salamanderYT 7 күн бұрын
It may yet have a bit more solo potential compared to Reaper time will tell just how good Snake scales could be
@mouakyle17
@mouakyle17 7 күн бұрын
@salamanderYT agreed that it does fare a lot better in terms of solo potential. from my experience so far, Viper is great at pressuring the back line. just have to know when to jump out.
@F0rs4k3nR0gu3
@F0rs4k3nR0gu3 8 күн бұрын
I got my notes out! Let us take up the dual blades and learn to destroy our foes together!
@salamanderYT
@salamanderYT 8 күн бұрын
Good luck :D
@insayoro
@insayoro 7 күн бұрын
Do a guide for everything in this game just like this. Thanks in advance.
@salamanderYT
@salamanderYT 6 күн бұрын
I will add it to the list XD
@clairemadeinheaven
@clairemadeinheaven 8 күн бұрын
Awwww thank you
@nacari0
@nacari0 6 күн бұрын
Awesome guide as always! Im a new player and a bit torn what to do.. ive always mained samurai n i like it in pve but for pvp it lacks something, be it better escape or not that much else to do after ur two heavy hitters after engage, any comforting words?
@salamanderYT
@salamanderYT 4 күн бұрын
Samurai's is the weird one since the Limit break feels like it does not want to work half the time, what I mainly focus on it watching for the openings to dive with the aoe combo since first does the mass freeze and the third is big healing, Viper will be a good one to learn right now since there is no doubt a buff is on the way, if you can get good with it right now you will thrive after a power boost :D
@Beef3691
@Beef3691 6 күн бұрын
Good video, cheers!
@salamanderYT
@salamanderYT 6 күн бұрын
Glad you enjoyed
@shinmononyx
@shinmononyx 6 күн бұрын
your content is great gang, glad i found a ff14 creator that doesn’t hate black people lol,
@salamanderYT
@salamanderYT 6 күн бұрын
Glad you enjoy your more then welcome here :D
@kingvelard
@kingvelard 8 күн бұрын
very curious how this job will find its place in CC... it's always in the game because of how fast you can generate LB, but if you aren't careful with your movement and defensives you can get caught out and laid out quick. i've been running a roaming playstyle, staying off crystal and hounding people off crystal while returning whenever the situation calls for it. securing early kills is the most important way to gain progress in CC, and viper absolutely has the tools to pull that off especially with how much damage it can put out through guard. smart use of scales will probably be what separates the best from the rest
@salamanderYT
@salamanderYT 8 күн бұрын
100% figured this would be the same way to play in CC your not there to doing the objective until you need to, its a flank and give chase roll that can also mix in sustain and stall, and yeah scales is going to be what makes the gap between good and bad vipers :D
@dalferu
@dalferu 7 күн бұрын
Is there even a need to use basic Dual Fang combo? Hunter's Snap has 2 stacks and CD is so short that I feel like I always have it ready
@salamanderYT
@salamanderYT 7 күн бұрын
Not too often with Frontline, comes up more in CC when your doing flanks and chasing single targets
@mikeross6767
@mikeross6767 8 күн бұрын
I cant wait for picto😊
@salamanderYT
@salamanderYT 8 күн бұрын
Picto is insanely good :D
@vharuv4651
@vharuv4651 3 күн бұрын
I don';t know if anything has changed since this was posted but I just seem to die upon any engage. :/
@salamanderYT
@salamanderYT Күн бұрын
by yourself or as the first to engage with all eyes on you even with snake scales engaging is rough, blending in with the team, or taking a few seconds to bait CC with snake scales from a little bit off range was a game changer in many of my recent matches, reset it right after then your ready for your real engage
@vharuv4651
@vharuv4651 Күн бұрын
@@salamanderYT I've been having a better time of it doing just this! Thank you, thank you. I'll look forward to the XP farm calming down so I can team up with more DRKs.
@whodis3489
@whodis3489 8 күн бұрын
Did you notice that viper has a very long dmg delay on it's moves because of the long animations? Ouroboros is the most obvious example of this.
@salamanderYT
@salamanderYT 8 күн бұрын
I did sometimes maybe its intended that way to not be to overwhelming for counter play, should it need it I'm sure they will increase the speed the damage goes through :D
@yongjeonsa5906
@yongjeonsa5906 4 күн бұрын
Nice video
@salamanderYT
@salamanderYT 4 күн бұрын
Thanks very much :D
@Tinandel
@Tinandel 8 күн бұрын
Played my first Crystalline Conflict match last night since the patch, and of course had a viper to deal with... who decided he was going to attack me, exclusively, for the entire match. I didn't like him very much.
@salamanderYT
@salamanderYT 8 күн бұрын
Its going to be the case often now I think with how there kit works, if a team does not want to help deal with them they will run rampant
@Tailionis
@Tailionis 8 күн бұрын
Job is a ton of fun but no stun and no kb makes me sad.
@salamanderYT
@salamanderYT 8 күн бұрын
they probably did not want to add cc as it would become to similar to samurai and snake scales is already very strong if you could crowed control with that it might be too much
@kingvelard
@kingvelard 8 күн бұрын
​@@salamanderYTplus it allows them to give it other strengths that would become overwhelming if it did have a stun. scholar doesn't have a stun but the utility it has instead is way preferable to me
@sharkntux7402
@sharkntux7402 7 күн бұрын
It does have a CC, Heavy, through the LB, but that's it
@Tailionis
@Tailionis 7 күн бұрын
@@sharkntux7402 I just love stuns and knockbacks.
@TaeSikCha
@TaeSikCha 6 күн бұрын
I dont understand ff14 pvp everyone uses the same buttons how would you possibly need a guide lmao
@salamanderYT
@salamanderYT 6 күн бұрын
because randomly pressing buttons will just result in fast deaths and a low performance
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