I use to sleep in VR a lot more regularly while I still had the default head strap. Off brand replacements are too bulky.

I sleep in vr sometimes. I’m pretty lonely and don’t like where I live. It’s easy to get comfy with the right pillow setup. Looking forward to getting a more expensive headset called the big screen beyond, which is ironically very small. The smallest headset of its caliber. I’ll probably sleep a lot more in vr when I have it. AMA.

World would be better off without that game tbh

​@@Shyverin how does VR make it any less lonely? do you fall asleep with others on VRChat? Any kind of multiplayer in VR in general just freaks me tf out so I'm just curious.

That sounds great. As I tell other friends in the VR/AR business, I have heard such claims for years now...so I will believe it when I see it.

I seen these developments at London Tech Week 2023, huge investment in AR among MOD partners (Raytheon and Thales in the UK). Academia is taking note with lots of KTPs forming in that space, though lots are under NDA here too. On the more public side, I believe an ex-Valve engineer has been working along AR tech development for table tops games (after Valve pivoted towards VR).

Just another case of the last 20% taking an extra 80% of total dev time?

​@@CainOnGamesI've only ever tried Tabletop Simulator on Desktop mode despite buying the game way back when it was released so that I could play in VR. Most of my VTTs and desktop dedicated apps for Tabletop have been around longer and it's harder to be willing to migrate platforms once you're comfortable on one and have a bunch of assets/maps/sheets on it. As far as I know Tabletop Sim doesn't represent player physicality but it's worth checking out.

Yes lol he posts at like 9am in the us

@@R-YR29 it's usually near dinner time where I am when he posts.

yeah project wigtram was pretty good with my oculus rift 2

100% agree. it's about as much as the elite battery strap if you get it on sale for $50-70 and then the adapter kits cost like $15-20. the comfort and audio quality improvement is massive.

its horrible compared to Project Wingman's VR mode tbh

Motion sickness (which affects me quite potently) has been the sole reason as to why I don't mess around with VR for long. I can usually withstand 20-30 minutes of VR before lunch starts coming back up with its acidic flavor. Shame, really. There are some great games I want to play, but they're either exclusive to VR headsets or they just lose their lustre when played normally. I don't know if the devs are at fault here to be frank. As far as I understand, motion sickness still seems to puzzle medical researchers... but I'm still hoping we get results soon.

This. There have been only two moments in gaming history that really blew my mind: Super Mario 64 and Half-Life: Alyx. It is just such a unique and awe-inspiring experience.

yesss I'd love to hear what Tim thinks about Alyx from a developer standpoint

Thanks! I will go there virtually as soon as I can!

what? the meta has desktop view built into the main menu, you literally click 1 button then you can open steam and play any game, theres no locks

Try out Half Life Alyx if you can! Probably the best VR game I have ever played - it just feels like a standard video game.

Huge reason why I never ended up buying a VR kit. There's a local VR meetup that I used to frequent and I really loved the tech but man there are just not many games on the platform that would justify the purchase.

Pistol Whip is a hard recommend if you like Beat Saber. Kinda like playing those "House of the Dead" arcade shooters, except you can (have to) dodge.

if you have vr legs, boneworks and to an extent, bonelab also are some of the most fun i've had in vr. boneworks is basically a full length half life campaign. you can also play most of boneworks in bonelab's updated engine via a mod, but it's not perfect yet. bonelab is the sequel, the campaign has some great moments, but it's not nearly as amazing as boneworks. bonelabs focus is on modding. the bonelabs mod community is incredible for what is a somewhat niche game in a very niche genre, there's full on multiplayer combat mods, vr chat like spaces you can hang out in via multiplayer mods, boneworks/bonelab goes hard on physics and embraces what vr can really do, but it comes at the cost of accessibility.

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About using your Quest 2 outside: On fairly cloudy days in a shady spot you might have an okay experience, BUT there's a big risk taking any VR headset outside. If you take it off and the sun shines on the lenses, then the same thing that happens to a bug under a magnifying glass, happens to the display inside your device. It burns the display and the warranty is void.

@@grafgrantula6100 Oh yeah! Good point! Deffo don't want to get the lenses sun burnt - RTFM, there's a warning for it! I still consider VR gear to be on the expensive side... Even though OQ2 is on the more affordable side now. Still don't want to ruin a ~400€ device (Think I payed ~500€ for it). *Strangely* it was kinda cloudy when I first attempted VR outside and it didn't work... guess it wasn't cloudy enough... (I live in Lithuania, land of rain - that's what our country's name actually means :D It's cloudy here 90% of the year :D) If it can work, IDK how cloudy it has to be for it... maybe if there was fog??? And regardless all of the cons of the apparatus (and there are quite a few) I am still very pleased with my purchase TBH.

I'd recommend the vive deluxe audio strap plus 3d printed "frankenquest" adapter bracket myself, it's way more comfortable plus the audio is great. skyrim vr is decent, but there's some absolutely essential mods that help reduce menus, let you open chests and see the loot physically inside it, then you can grab them out with your hands instead of being stuck in a menu. they really cut a lot of corners on the quest 2 to sell it so cheap, the controller tracking isnt great, but for $300 extra, the touch pro controllers are worth it, especially considering they'll be compatible with future headsets. then you need an external power bank because the charging speed is limited to 10watts, so if you want to be able to take quick breaks and jump back in, it has to be charging while you use it. the default headstrap is an insult. it's horrible. especially when they up'd the price to $400 for a while, it's just not good enough. the quest 2 is hands down the best vr solution for wireless pc vr in terms of cost to performance (until you try to solve ALL it's issues, I've invested about $900 into mine including the $299 base cost of it, which in total is very near the index's cost, but there's no good wireless options for the index yet). you do need a wireless access point right up on the wall of your room, and there's significant image compression, but untethered pc quality vr feels like the future, even though it's probably not. all those weight trade offs are a bit easier to swallow when you're not dealing with mobile phone hardware.

I understand what you mean but it's also the case that the technology hasn't reached anywhere near what it's going to become say in 20 years etc. The experiences will be so clear and convincing that you'll forget you have it on and it'll be used for everything vr and ar.

look into the horrible neurological issues and addiction-stimulus and other issues

you should probably ask around and see if a friend has a headset you could try out first. There is a period where you get used to it and get your vr legs, but generally most people (at least those who i've let try any of my headsets) know pretty fast if it's something they could get into or not.

@@dan_loeb It was a while back but I tried one out when Oculus was demoing their first consumer headset and I thought it was really neat but I didn't want to fork over so much cash. I'd like to try halflife alex out and the 3d real world locations Tim was talking about. Maybe one day, but yea I might see if I can try it out again from a friend, good idea.

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