Same here mate, best of luck to you!

@@samconroyy Here's wishing the best of luck for us both.

You both sound like you have too much ambition and interest to be an openreach engineer. I'm sure they will beat this out of you within a couple of months. I certainly get this impression from the engineers I talk to on a daily basis.

It's passion for technology, and why not make a living on the side from something you love doing or have interest in? I don't see a problem, life's hard, from the moment you're born it's a uphill struggle from getting good grades to landing a good paying job, show me somewhere where life isn't hard.

@@andicalman4975 if you have a passion for technology then becoming an openreach engineer will kill that passion. I've been involved in dsl and ethernet support for a decade. The people you speak to at openreach don't know how their technology works. I speak to engineers who don't know what an snr margin is but then proceed to tell me why they disagree with me about where a fault lies. I speak to the ethernet guys, tell them we aren't seeing light from their interface and they say 'Of course. Your port is faulty so that's why we aren't sending any light'. Dealing with openreach is like trying to walk through treacle. I'm not gonna name any names but there are plenty of other companies rolling out full fibre that I would consider over openreach. They are good because they need to be because are competing with openreach, who essentially inherited a monopoly.

city fibre is an absolute mess mate, using unproven sub contract fibre engineers that have no clue what theyre doing in many cases.

@@Mazwell96 Mmm presume u work for the legendary BT ! See numerous comments below about the standard of BT workmanship !

@@lukather1 No i work self employed for multiple ISP's. There's a reason most of these companies like CityFibre are merging, folding or filing. Think CityFibre have reported around £500m in losses over the last 4 years. BT are using cheap labour to do home installs and connections at the cabs, the actual network itself is quite tidy and well maintained. NGE had the best network structure, dropped their own boxes, ducting and poles but i think they've now pulled out due to project costs.

Not legally required anymore so they don't provide it to save cash

Yes and I always known it as a field for obvious reasons, and it always goes hand in hand with job security lol Like 6G, there will not be any towers to put labels on lol And thank you for that constructive comment, its pleasing to see you depth of your dictionary.

@@stephenjones2867 What does 6G and antennas have to do with ODFs? Those that have worked enough fibre faults will know exactly what my comment is about

UK should have been on FTTP 20 years ago. This is all one big game of catch up thanks to years of useless tory governments that put network infrastructure on the backburner.

premise...premises.... remember he's speaking Yorkshire

ffs

Yes, just filled out a Barclays Customer Survey. I used to use Barclays number back in the 90s for internet connectivity. Used to do searches for a female partner to spend my hard earned salary on, But the search results kept on bringing up the Philippines and their antics. I wonder what my manager had to with those results to end up me having to socialise with him. Thank you Ericsson for noticing...

Phone openreach.

It's the openreach training centre in Bradford.

@@colinbaird33 oh. but what it's trying to replicate? the whole city's exchange?

@@k7y its a mock up of the whole fttp network. Its not actually an exchange, its just showing what parts of the network look like as you go along, the house at the end isn't a real house. Hope this helps.

Bear in mind that I am not in the industry, so this answer may be a little wide of the mark in one way or another. However, I will answer to the best of my knowledge. My understanding is that, in the BT/Openreach network, there isn't really a hierarchy of exchanges in the way you envisage. The exchanges are all largely equivalent to one another, in terms of the logical role they play in the network. So, I would think it doesn't really matter which exchange is represented in the training centre. The Internet Backbone does not connect directly to Openreach exchanges. Instead, it connects together "internet exchanges" around the world, including the handful that are located in the UK. ISPs and other operators of large networks use internet exchanges as a place to connect their networks to one another and to the internet backbone. Typically, each ISP has its own separate "core network". Large internet services and CDNs often bypass the backbone entirely, connecting directly to ISPs' networks. On the other side of things, the ISPs make connections between their core networks and the Openreach infrastructure at various points. A handful of ISPs take their networks all the way into each local exchange (or further) and then they compete with Openreach itself to provide connectivity for other ISPs into Openreach's local infrastructure. (At least, this is how it works for ADSL and to some extent VDSL. I presume similar arrangements are being made for FTTP.) As I say, I'm not in the industry, so take it with a pinch of salt, but hopefully I'm not too far off.

Use a USB ethernet adaptor.

I'm in the same boat my whole area is done but they missed putting my house on their stupid database as fiber ready. Openreach won't do anything and the service provider won't raise anything up. Its a joke because our tax is paying for this shit. Even my Council is not having much luck with openreach and their paying the bill which just had one for 3 million quid. BT is a waste of space.

Yeah pretty new. I think it's something like 25-30% of houses (me included fortunately). We do have Virgin Media though, who for the vast majority of connections province cable services over their own network, fibre to the cabinet and then coaxial for the last stretch. I preciously has their gigabit package. Most other connections are FTTC via Openreach.

@@dreammclackers I think FTTP is up to 33% in the UK now which is cool. I expect there will still be many places on ADSL for many years to come though.

@@lukesymmons Apparently my area will be stuck with ADSL until 2026. The pain continues.

@@portman8909 There is always FTTP On Demand if you're that desperate and willing to all come together (only problem being there is a bill to pay for the works)

Most Fiber to the home deployments here in the US use a technology called PON or passive optical network. This technology allows multiple customers to share the same strand of fiber back to the head end. There are different speeds of PON... GPON or gigabit PON is the most common as of now and can move 2.5gbps download and 1gbps upload per strand of fiber. With this asymmetric capacity, most providers sell asymmetric connections.

Because ISPs believe you'd rather have more download speed than upload speed, and unless you're a business that needs high upload speeds, that line of thinking is generally correct.

@@lukesymmons yes but with technology moving to cloud based services then upload speeds become important in a domestic setting

@@crizzo8846 if you're talking about VoIP devices, they don't need that much upstream bandwidth to work.

I was referring to cloud based storage services

We got full fiber today yay

and on the node "Light on the LEFT and Customer is Always (on the) RIGHT" What a lad.

Lucent Connector

Blame teams, we can only do so much lol (my opinion not my company)

They are eventually getting rid of most exchanges.

why 900mb costs a chunk more as most ae cheap asses

They're betting on most people not going for the full 900mb speeds, and they're probably right. A lot of people don't really understand the difference in internet speeds, but they do understand the difference in the monthly fee's! If the lower speed would suffice to their needs, and save them ~£20 a month, they're gonna pick the lower speed. Media streaming (like Netflix) is pretty dominant now over downloading media, and you don't exactly need 900mb for that

That's BT for you, they only think about the now and not the future, community fibre is offering 1 gigabit service and soon 3 gigabit, Virgin media were testing 10 gigabit at some area of the UK. Why must BT always cut corners? Shameful and a wasted effort.

Having dealt with BT/Openreach in all its incarnations over 30 years I'd expect nothing less than corner cutting wherever possible.

Yes, and I yet to see ESD shoes being used. Even though 'we' were conditioned to use ESD footwear way back in (for me 1994). I don't like making it obvious but I even had to go out and by ESD steel toe capped boots which had ESD blazened on the side of the trainer. One place I worked and went back 'by accident', suddenly a manager started to where white sold shoes in the data centre like I did. I always look at shoes, something I picked up with something someone said to me once.... Don't know about you but I am tired of people not showing me what is the minimum....

@@stephenjones2867 Curious why you think you need ESD shoes to deal with fibre optics. It's glass and light. No electrical signal to be seen anywhere...

@@stephenjones2867 You would think these things would be provided to the janitor.

@@trollobite1629 Yes, what was I doing in a data centre and in another role wearing safety boots with a degree and a PGD? My manager was in the wrong industry and I see he is in the right one now, Lets hope people clean those glasses more often.....

@@stephenjones2867 You don't need nor are you required to wear *"..ESD safety footwear..."* in a data center, headend or at ODF panels. The places required to wear ESD shoes is exposure to electronic components in packaging, or service departments working on electronics EG PCBs. The reason for that is clothing can easily generate in excess of 10 thousand volts which is more than enough to damage your circuit boards.

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