Visma-Lease A Bike Is In BIG TROUBLE Without Primož Roglič

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4 ай бұрын

Visma-Lease A Bike Is In BIG TROUBLE Without Primož Roglič
Visma-Lease-a-Bike just lost one of their most powerful riders, Primož Roglič, to Bora-Hansgrohe, and while they will undoubtedly continue to thrive as a team, many believe their job at the 2024 Tour de France will be much harder without him. But how will Visma venture into the unknown, and how crazy of a summer can we really expect?
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@patrickwong4824 4 ай бұрын

Let's agree to disagree. Visma LAB may have more competition in the 2024 Tour, but they are not in big trouble.

@de4ds1ghtcsgo94 4 ай бұрын

Without primoz? They're in huge trouble... pogi and roglic will attack vingegaard

@madskalle4425 4 ай бұрын

@@de4ds1ghtcsgo94 yeah, you're forgetting something here, like pogi, roglic and remco will all just team up against vingegaard and visma. It's a 4 person free for all, ain't going to be no teaming up

@de4ds1ghtcsgo94 4 ай бұрын

@@madskalle4425 if it's required those 3 will attack vingegaard before a valley. Remco would annihilate vingegaard in the valley. You don't understand just how much power that guy has. If he can add to his endurance it's over

@madskalle4425 4 ай бұрын

@@de4ds1ghtcsgo94 yeah but then that reasoning would work both ways,they arent getting 3 guys ahead of vingegaard on a downhill or over the crest when pogi hasn't been able to do so alone even through the last tours, plus remco aint gonna pull rolic and pogi through a valley to then get beat up when the mountain comes

@de4ds1ghtcsgo94 4 ай бұрын

@@madskalle4425 remco should build endurance. He has that explosiveness. But he needs to be able to ride high watts longer for a chance at the tour. In a 1 day climbing race he could outrace anybody w absurd watts. But i would rather have him push 6.5 for 3 weeks than have 1 7.4 day followed by 6.2.

@edhill8568 4 ай бұрын

Will they miss Primoz Roglic of course very much but that is very different then saying they will be in "big trouble".

@Dagensmandiskysovs-ew7wd 4 ай бұрын

How quickly fans in the comments have forgotten just how strong Vingegaard was in the last TDF..

@Montrealcycling 4 ай бұрын

Maybe but he did not won flanders/Lombardie twice/ la flèche wallonne/ liège bastogne liège/ strade bianche/ GP Montréal etc etc etc… soon the giro… and he won the tour the France twice too with all is other win… I préfère TADEJ THE BOSS🥊💪🏻

@Jan-se1nd 4 ай бұрын

@@Montrealcycling You don't seem to understand the difference between one-day races and the Tour in spite of Jonas' teachings.

@luiscolon921 4 ай бұрын

@@Montrealcyclingyou mean, Tadej “I’m gone, I’m dead” Pogachar. Jonas owns him.

@Montrealcycling 4 ай бұрын

@@luiscolon921yes sure 😂😂😂

@Montrealcycling 4 ай бұрын

⁠@@Jan-se1ndyou don’t seems to understand the difference of a guy who as won 2 tours the France almost by himself (Pogacar) and almost every monument and classic (Pogacar ) do you know a lot of cyclist in the modern area that accomplished this!?!?

@jeffschmid2538 4 ай бұрын

Bring on the competition. I can't wait to watch. Not worried about the boys at Visma being more than competitive.

@Konzuug 4 ай бұрын

I hope there will be more than two teams competing this year. Looks like an exciting season

@lostvisualss 4 ай бұрын

why the dude that made the video is talking likw jonas didn't won 2023 tdf without Primoz?

@krakatoa1200 3 ай бұрын

I think the way Roglic treated Sep Kuss in the Vuelta was a disgrace.

@mcbanana666666 4 ай бұрын

Cmon, Jonas will smash the tour again this year!

@Po.2013 4 ай бұрын

Tour is a long race. You cannot say this even in the last week of racing.

@christiansplidsboel-cv6dh 4 ай бұрын

Now you show the world who’s the best💪💪

@denisspratt926 4 ай бұрын

I hope for a exiting battle with 4 riders that can be on top until the very end in Nice. But i do have a feeling that Pogacar is taking on to much with the Giro and Tour this upcoming season.

@ArnyRimmer 4 ай бұрын

It was ok, when Pogačar was the best TdF cyclist, to have Vingegard and Roglič in one team. Now, when the best TdF cyclist is Vingegard, we need other strong teams. It would be really crazy if Visma and Quick Step merge. But now it seems that we will have a lot of fun.

@sandervandam9771 4 ай бұрын

If Vingegaard is as strong as in 2023 or even stronger, nobody is a match.

@veganpotterthevegan 4 ай бұрын

Depends on Pogi. We have no idea how much his injury effected him. And Visma may have Kuss as a lesser prepared domestique if he's hoping to go for GC in the Vuelta

@sandervandam9771 4 ай бұрын

@@veganpotterthevegan pogi has never shown before that he can reach the levels of Jonas in the hardest mountainstages. Still worldclass on those stages but second to Jonas. Remco en Roglic haven't shown that either, and I think they will battle for the 3rd spot and Jonas en Pogi for first.

@veganpotterthevegan 4 ай бұрын

@sandervandam9771 odd since he's won mountain stages ahead of Jonas and has definitely dropped him with lesser domestiques😅 *I'm by no means saying Pogi is better. Its just ridiculous to say he's incapable of beating him. Keep in mind that Pogi is also younger and younger people generally have more space to improve year to year.

@sandervandam9771 4 ай бұрын

@@veganpotterthevegan when did this happen in the last two and a half years? PN 2023 and TA 2022 but not in the Tour. He only did it once in the Tour 2021 when Jonas wasn't teamleader yet. Since then a lot has changed.

@veganpotterthevegan 4 ай бұрын

@sandervandam9771 you do realize he broke his wrist last season don't you? Cycling is a team sport. But Jonas very likely wouldn't have won without Kuss in 2022 as he did wind up waiting for Jonas in a couple of stages. He certainly would have won last season with an average domestique instead of Kuss but we have no idea how much Pogi's wrist damaged his fitness and preparation

@camillelively 4 ай бұрын

I smell click bait and engagement baiting....which obviously worked since here I am clicking and engaging. lol. Well played.

@marnixcoenaerts4974 4 ай бұрын

If there is one team that can overcome a top rider leaving it, than this is the team 😊

@livibam 4 ай бұрын

Dr’s win races. Jumbo clearly have the most up to date vitamins on the market

@leweoldag8882 2 ай бұрын

He probably left Visma because he still has some pride and would not wear one of the new TT helmets.

@lucaswilliams1011 4 ай бұрын

I think it will make it easier. Concentrate on two top riders now JV and SK . He blew his only chance at yellow with visma .

@Jan-se1nd 4 ай бұрын

This vid has that whiff of off-season jitters -- have to talk about something however unlikely.

@Thomas-fy9yc 4 ай бұрын

Ugh, computer voice. I’d rather read it.

@RoryM07 4 ай бұрын

Has anyone told Carlton yet? 😅

@CFCMahomet 4 ай бұрын

Sometimes someone like Primoz, even though he is not at every race, is the glue that holds a team together. It will be interesting to see VLAB react to not just Pogacar, but also Roglic and Remco. Jonas could lose as everyone else tries to win.

@HolgerDanske874 4 ай бұрын

Yeah, I doubt it. It's not like Primoz was very vocal as a leader. He rode his bike and that's it. I'd like to add though that Roglic was an important piece when building a winning culture in Visma LAB.

@veganpotterthevegan 4 ай бұрын

Kuss, Wout to a lesser extent, Gesink are the team leaders. Primoz is a great rider but no leader

@Dalmore420 4 ай бұрын

@@veganpotterthevegan LOL...Visma is where they are now because of Roglič. Saying Roglič is not a leader is like saying Wout will win the Giro this year...stupid

@veganpotterthevegan 4 ай бұрын

@@Dalmore420 you're ridiculous. Leading with points isn't leading a team. Plenty of the best athletes in sports aren't leaders

@Dalmore420 4 ай бұрын

@@veganpotterthevegan "Leading with points"...what do you even mean with that?Where was Visma before Roglič? With/beacuse of him they grew and vice versa...HE led them to their first GT win, to first monument and many more victories. Cycling is a team sport and every team needs a leader, for Visma that was Primož...if you deny it you are delusional and should learn a thing or two about cycling.

@bitchoflivingblah 4 ай бұрын

i'm here simply to listen to the chris horner-like pronunciation of names.

@peterderidder9922 4 ай бұрын

Pogacar, Vingegaard, Remco, Roglic needs a miracle to forfill his dream ....

@Pete22222 4 ай бұрын

Can’t remember the last time that Primoz even finished the tour without crashing out. He’s had an amazing career, but that race has never been in the cards for him I don’t think

@veganpotterthevegan 4 ай бұрын

It's not like his podium was 10yrs ago😅 He's certainly crashed out plenty though

@tsunemi4869 4 ай бұрын

People so desperate to talk Vingo down 😂

@rockhopper01 4 ай бұрын

Nothing wrong with pointing out that the 2024 Tour will be the most competitive in years, and necessarily the toughest for Jonas as defending champion.

@tsunemi4869 4 ай бұрын

@@rockhopper01 Well, i don't think they should be scared, as they have the best GT rider, and the best team. The others should be scared, lol

@letmerun 4 ай бұрын

Love the content but the mispronunciation of all the riders' names is killing me

@infovidasupps8640 4 ай бұрын

Lol you are nuts if you think they are in trouble 😂

@Queen-be6md 4 ай бұрын

There will be a decrease in UCI points and victories this year. They also lost Van aert's coach and will have a new rival at Bora Hansgrohe.

@HolgerDanske874 4 ай бұрын

@@Queen-be6md UCI points in it self doesn't really matter. Visma LAB will be happy with a Tour de France victory and a monument win. 2+ monuments will be a bonus and Kuss in the Vuelta will be a bonus.

@holmbjerg 4 ай бұрын

Absolutely.

@Queen-be6md 4 ай бұрын

@@HolgerDanske874 so you're implying ranking and success is irrelevant? That's a narrow point of view. I suppose for viewers that's irrelevant but not for the team itself.

@HolgerDanske874 4 ай бұрын

@@Queen-be6md No, I wrote UCI points are insignificant. UAE won most points last year, but only a fool would state that UAE had a better season than Visma

@dr.merlot1532 4 ай бұрын

It's certainly going to be exciting. Vingegaard, Pogachar, Primoz, Remco, and now Kuss.

@Po.2013 4 ай бұрын

who is pogachar?

@comanche180 4 ай бұрын

Don’t forget Ayuso

@tobiasdencker853 4 ай бұрын

kuss aint no way

@LL-iy7bg 3 ай бұрын

2024 TDF ROGLIČ

@Alkebulan2060 4 ай бұрын

Who's the journalist? I love his channel

@savagepro9060 4 ай бұрын

I thought you loved the journalist. I was wrong

@northernwaves 4 ай бұрын

I certainly wish Primoz a tour victory, but don't think he can compete with Jonas and Tadej

@basedgodstrugglin 4 ай бұрын

I thought you were calling them lease a bike as an insult

@BLITZKRIEG1 4 ай бұрын

I still cant tell if this channel is some AI generated clickbait

@peterderidder9922 3 ай бұрын

If there where not so manny challangers Roglic would have a chanse winning the tour de France. I give Vingegaard 35% , pogacar 30% , Remco 25 % , Roglic 9% and 1% for a new great upcomming talent who will supprise the cyclingworld. On the conditions all 4 will have no bad luck .

@larshansen4557 4 ай бұрын

It al comes down to week 3 either of the other have to gain at least 2 minuts to vinge ,otherwise i think winge wil win , he is a monster in week 3

@mingszheng1301 4 ай бұрын

why jumbo ,not yumbo

@RoryM07 4 ай бұрын

AI Voice - it's a synthesised version of Carlton Kirby

@RustyCardboard 4 ай бұрын

Basically Primoz went to Bora as a spy, Jumbo Visma' win is secured Source: trust me bro

@zwiftingwithdemonhunter 4 ай бұрын

I'm kind of glad Jumbo Visma has changed its name. Now we won't have to listen to these idiots butcher their name. Good gawd, can't you people do even the smallest amount of research and get it right?

@camillelively 4 ай бұрын

I smell clickbait and engagement begging lol.

@Leo-ii8nb 4 ай бұрын

wout being out is huge

@joowsty 4 ай бұрын

yes but that has nothing to do with roglic leaving i think. i think that if roglic had stayed with visma then wout would also have ride the giro, cuz of the olympics this year.

@Shadowboost 4 ай бұрын

Losing Nathaniel is a bigger blow

@tobiasdencker853 4 ай бұрын

he didnt even do anything this year

@Leo-ii8nb 4 ай бұрын

@@tobiasdencker853 He is always out there eliminating helpers of UAE and is huge if Jonas wants to attack on a mountain. Search for "Wout van Aert dropped???...... nope, BEASTMODE ENGAGE. Get out of my way"

@veganpotterthevegan 4 ай бұрын

They don't have much to worry about. Worst thing that can happen is that they have 3 GT podiums without a win😂 *Primoz will only win the Vuelta(hopefully defending his Olympic TT gold)...assuming he races it

@joowsty 4 ай бұрын

i think its actually a good thing he left for Visma. the reason that there were ppl that could be fresh at the tour cuz he ride the giro is nonsense, cuz last year the most important climbing helper, kuss, had to go all out to save roglic several times in the giro and this year he wont ride the giro, so in fact vingegaards most important helper will be more fresh for the tour this year (with altitude training camp which he didnt do last year cuz of the giro). also, i dont think roglic is at the leve of pogacar and vingegaard, its not for nothing that jumbo chose vingegaard as number one for the tour and only let roglic do the giro and vuelta. so it doesnt really matter roglic now does the tour in another team, cuz his main rival will still be pogacar. so the only bad thing for visma will be that they probably wont win all 3 grand tours (unless uytebroeks or van aert do something really surprising). but that was always going to be very hard, even if roglic had stayed and ride the giro again, cuz of pogacar doing the giro. so in the end i only see positive sides from roglic leaving, for himself and for visma.

@Queen-be6md 4 ай бұрын

Rogla contributed to a lot of the UCI points. Just looking at the numbers themselves Rogla is one of the most important riders they had. I don't think riding the giro was nonsense. The prestige they obtained puts them as a historic team that won all the grand tours. I think you are underestimating Primoz, his performance at the vuelta was not inferior. For example the average watts they did at Angliru are comparable to what was seen at Puy de Dome, and there is more to add however you should do the research yourself. You will notice itself the lack of UCI points this year at Jumbo due to the absense of Roglic. While they had 2 certain riders for success at stage races, this year that won't that way unless Kelderman or Cian Uijdebroeks reach their maximum potential. This year they won Volta a Catalunya, Tirreno, Criterium du Dauphine, Itzulia, 2nd at paris nice. How many UCI points would be subtracted from the victories at Tirreno, Catalunya, the giro, or the stage wins at la vuelta and 3rd at GC.

@veganpotterthevegan 4 ай бұрын

There's a good chance Roglic will never win anything ever again(outside of stages). So it's really not a good move by him. A waste of money for Bora, with a 2yr contract that's so expensive, and now Roglic won't have nearly the support he had before. He'll be lucky to make it halfway up any major climb without being fully isolated with no teammates. Having Hindley and Roglic together is gonna be a nightmare. Roglic needs a lieutenant that's a team leader. Bobby Jungels is the closest to that but he just can't hang on the steep stuff anymore.

@veganpotterthevegan 4 ай бұрын

@@Queen-be6md Jumbo was just behind UAE in points. They had over 50% more points than Quick Step in 3rd. You're absurd😅 Roglic definitely had a lot of points. But without his points, They're still in very good shape.

@Queen-be6md 4 ай бұрын

@@veganpotterthevegan and I suppose that's an opinion from an expert. I won't bother discussing this as there is clearly a lack of understanding and consideration you are ignoring.

@veganpotterthevegan 4 ай бұрын

@Queen-be6md I did race professionally so yes. Not that that's necessary. All it takes is not being an idiot.

@luiscolon921 4 ай бұрын

Yea…What is Visma thinking? How can they expect to win the TDF or even another Vuelta without him?

@gerlachsieders4578 4 ай бұрын

Yes Primoz will be sorely missed, but to suggest Visma will collapse is hilarious, completely forgetting that Jonas is still the numer 1 GC rider in the world. Personally, I have high expectations for Ben Tulett. For the future, I think he is going to outshine even Cian Uijtdebroeks at Visma, let's keep our eyes on Ben.

@aiden784 4 ай бұрын

realistically jonas will destroy the TDF again, and visma might make sepp kuss the lead for la vuelta. I just dont think bora has the firepower that visma has.

@rafalpruszynski1707 4 ай бұрын

Jonas won't finish top 5 this year.

@dennismikkelsen1977 4 ай бұрын

Well guess you think he is going to crash then?

@HolgerDanske874 4 ай бұрын

Put your money where your mouth is

@srennielsen8235 4 ай бұрын

Roglic couldn't win the Tour in his prime with the best team in the world to back him up, and now they are in big trouble?

@scottsefton294 4 ай бұрын

I love me some Primoz, this is a funny story. If Primoz makes to stage 10 of the TDF I’ll be impressed. He can’t stay off the Pavement. Visma has a much stronger team for 2024. It will come down to Jonas and Tadej again. Flip a coin between those two.

@comanche180 4 ай бұрын

WTF, Primoz best days have been over for a while, get over it, Visma did and they don’t make too many mistakes, you know that. Sounds to me like you had nothing else better to do.

@isitrachelorj3953 4 ай бұрын

The big problem is that Rogs takes his supply of special Slovene Soca River water (pumped from a private well on the property of the "don" of Slovene cycling, former rider, known doper, Andrej Hauptman) with him. Maybe that's why WVA looks so average this CX campaign.

@fritsgerms3565 4 ай бұрын

Naah. Roglic has struggled with the tdf. Even when he was supported 100% by the strongest team. Visma will likely not win as much as their best year. I don't think Visma will miss Roglic. Tdf is too much for Remco. Let's see.

@tonyg3091 4 ай бұрын

The only rider who can take the TdF from Vingegaard is Pogacar.

@jtalley8191 4 ай бұрын

I enjoy watching Primoz race, but his best days are behind him. The new generation of pros is coming in and get ready for a complete change in the leadership. Jonas is a force, but without someone pulling him to the last 10k's he won't make it. But Visma has riders to do that. Whereas Bora has a whole lot of leaders but no pullers. Primoz will never win a grand tour again on that squad.

@HolgerDanske874 4 ай бұрын

You enjoy wheelsucking and then a mountain sprint with 500m left?

@Dagensmandiskysovs-ew7wd 4 ай бұрын

Jonas isn't just "a force". He is the best GC-rider and no one comes close to him in that category.

@veganpotterthevegan 4 ай бұрын

@@Dagensmandiskysovs-ew7wdmaybe...he's certainly top 2, but we have no idea what Pogo could do without that broken wrist and deeper team, and that's with him killing it in classics too. Having a GC winner as a loyal domestic can't be underestimated.

@Jan-se1nd 4 ай бұрын

What strange criticism. If you're a GC captain, it's your duty to sit as close and as sheltered behind your teammates as possible -- at least until you unleash yourself upon your opponents. Do you really disagree with that? Please feel free to state an alternative strategy to what is by now so common there's hardly been a Tour winner in the last 35 years who hasn't made use of it.

@veganpotterthevegan 4 ай бұрын

@Jan-se1nd don't think you're reading it right. Everyone knows this. But Primoz no longer has top domestiques and he's needed them later in stages than he used to. Everyone stays behind their domestiques. But they typically attack and the strongest climbers can attack early to create bigger gaps. Primoz can't do that anymore. He's also been more of a finishing kicker on climbs. But he's also not the time trialist he used to be and needs more time on the field to win the GC.

@Pomi3001 4 ай бұрын

Jonas without Wout and Primoz will be lucky to stand on the podium

@wtfocaszafapowa8490 4 ай бұрын

wait a second didnt wout left mid of last year tour and primoz wasnt there?

@Shadowboost 4 ай бұрын

He'll be on the top step

@rafalpruszynski1707 4 ай бұрын

@@wtfocaszafapowa8490 um....no

@Dagensmandiskysovs-ew7wd 4 ай бұрын

@@rafalpruszynski1707 um...yes. Wout left cause of pregnant wife, Primosz wasn't there at all. And Vingegaard won the tour in the last 5 days.

@HolgerDanske874 4 ай бұрын

Sounds like a Pogacar fan coping. Wout didn't do anything out of the ordinary in 2023 and Roglic wasn't even there. Jonas will be better off since everything will be about him in 2024. NVH will be missed though.