Vital - Creating an acid style 303 sound for EDM

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Vital - Creating an acid style 303 sound for EDM

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Dynamic Music Tutorials

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@aleksdizhe 10 ай бұрын

Very useful! Thanks!

@kaliyuga6613 19 күн бұрын

Quite interesting that this is the kind of sound which has come to be associated with the 303 in an 'Acid' context. I wouldn't go full tilt into it as @engineer has below, but he defo has a point. This sound is quite compelling, but has very little to associate it with a 303. EG, there's no slide and no accent. I'da thought those could be 'emulated' in vital using part-automation (somewhat painstakingly and unnaturally - unlike on the ABL3 etc). Classic Acid 303 (see Hardfloor they're still doing it) relies heavily on the movement of the cutoff and env mod over phrases and whole tracks, generally with raised resonance at peak times on at least some of the machines (there are typically at least a couple running) - all of which is pretty obvious/easy with 303-emulators like ABL3. Anyhoo - here you can see how to get a static snapshot of one of the almost infinite number of sounds a 303 produces in an 'Acid' context, which apparently has come to represent the whole gamut. Interesting.

@Dynamic_Music_Tutorials 19 күн бұрын

@@kaliyuga6613 thanks for the comment. You are right, no slide or accent in this tutorial. I would hope that those watching would automate filter, resonance or other parameters for continued interest throughout a real track. The tutorial is labelled as an acid “style” 303 sound which I believe is fitting. Again I appreciate your input.

@S14M07 2 ай бұрын

... I just clicked the video to find out how to make that sound, but then I teleported to Just B-Club

@Engineeer 8 ай бұрын

This is important: you can not convincingly emulate the TB-303's capabilities using sound design in any bread and butter synth! There are highly specialized emulations, which sound way closer to the original, carefully designed to reproduce TB-303's sound with all its strange behaviors. Good emulations are: AudioRealism's ABL3, Roland Cloud TB-303, D16's Phoscyon or Arturia's Acid V. None of them are free, though. There are some good sounding free ones: Anton Savov's Venom VB-303, RE-MET Toolchain Acid Devil and Witech's Bass Matrix. However, they all have drawbacks, which keeps me from recommending them: Venom VB-303 is only available as a 32 Bit VST for Windows. Acid Devil is difficult to setup, and it seems to be impossible to synch it the DAW. The Bass Matrix plugin is only available as 64 Bit VST3 for Windows, and I did not see the option to shorten patterns to less than 16 steps. So, no trippy 3- or 6-step off-beat Acid. An important part of the TB-303 is the sequencer and how all the components are interacting with each other. Anton Savov writes about this on his website: antonsavov.net/audio_plugins/vb303/ I produce and perform different styles of Acid music for many years. At the beginning, I tried to create the 303 in sound design on hard and software. The results were not satisfying for a real Acid connoisseur like me. Now, I am using different hardware clones (Avalon, TB-3, TD-3 and X0xb0x) and software emulations (ABL-3 and Phoscyon). Teaching how to create the 303 in sound design leads to bad sounding Acid tracks. Why don't you show how to use the proper tools for the job? Vital is an amazing great sounding synth with lots of capabilities, but it's not designed to convincingly replicate the sound of a TB-303.

@Dynamic_Music_Tutorials 8 ай бұрын

Thanks for the information, this will be great for anyone looking to more closely replicate the TB-303 sound. The tutorial is meant to highlight principles which will create a style of sound similar to acid but not the exact same. You can still create some interesting and usable noises by understanding basic techniques involved in synthesis on any synth, and can use these techniques with the vsts you mentioned or with hardware to create the "real thing" if that's what you are after.

@Engineeer 8 ай бұрын

@@Dynamic_Music_Tutorials Yes, you can create interesting sounds by slapping a filter on a square or sawtooth wave on any synth, but you won't get anywhere close to the true magic of the 303's sound. This is essential! The 303 vibe falls completely flat in 99% of all sound designed 303s I've heard so far. Plenty of garbage Acid tracks are released every day by producers, who do not know any better. Why? Because KZfaq is flooded with "How to make a 303 in [insert any popular synth here]". Don't understand me wrong: Teaching people fundamentals in sound design is important, however. It is also important to show the right tools to achieve professional results. You don't show anybody how to hammer a nail in the wall with the handle of a screwdriver, when a hammer is designed for the job. Also, have a look at the original TB-303's "sawtooth" and "square" waveforms: tinyloops.com/tb303/sound_vco.html This headscratcher is just the tip of the iceberg on how strange the TB-303 actually is. Feel free to go down the rabbit hole.

@borjonx 7 ай бұрын

@Engineeer It's worth pointing out that what you hear as 'garbage', others hear as amazing. ty Camden for this excellent YT.

@Engineeer 7 ай бұрын

@@borjonx This might be right in some cases, though if you want to get your track signed with a true 303 Acid label, your chances are significantly higher when you have a proper 303 sound. I suggest start listening to lots of old school 303 Acid to get an ear for this. "Acid Tracks" by Phuture, "Acperience 1 " by Hardfloor, "Da Funik" by Daft Punk, "Tone" by Emmanuel Top, "Can't Breathe by Punk Floyd", "It's Our Future" by AWeX, "Golden Times" by Microwave Prince and "Acid Air Raid (George´s All Nighter)" by Solar Quest are a good start.

@deejaychainwallet 6 ай бұрын

@Engineeer used a real 303 recently and also heard that 303 used by my pal in his hardware set while i used a behringer td3 and tbh the distortion and fx you put on it matter just as much and I didnt have a noticeable loss in peoples vibes to the acid tones on my td3 after it was run through wach of our respective chains. also dueling 303's with different characteristics on each are sick as hell. sorry to beat a dead horse but its like sounds evolve, look at a modern reese or forghorn tutorial. there will always be a place for the real 303 sound but being gatekeepey keeps the circle too small and keeps new people from getting into production. also I'm sure you know most everyone on the internet refers to a bassy kick tail as an 808 and you dont hear any purists on that end.