O wow! Good to know. I saw what looked like an amazing piece on YT. I know what you mean when something just doesn’t work for you. The Bishop wand packer really does it for me and the dragonhawk isn’t the same. I will use it as a shader. I wont line or colour with it. But I’m sure it will work differently for someone else.

Have you tried putting it on the way you see on this video? Different thickness band, different size band, new bands. If you try all of these there is no reason why it should break. Also it should be obvious just by observing. Where is the tension? What’s it rubbing against? My honest answer is get rid of that terrible machine. If you can’t work a rubber band then you’re obviously a beginner and you should be using a pen machine.

Although you make a point, they advertise it as working perfectly at that configuration, with cartridges, at that voltage at that stroke

@@kemshizzle Yeah it’s kind of disappointing that it doesn’t probably but try putting a rubber band over the amateur bar at the top where the needle is I do that with my Dan Cuban and it works fine the cartridges which I usually work with traditional needles but I didn’t want to try it with cartridges and I seen one of his videos of him putting the rubber band at the tip of the amateur bar by the nipple and it hit a lot harder

@@D_inks666 I’ve sold it since, but good to know, I might try the Dan kubins one day

@vladblad

@@robertsmith3775 snitch!

Does it look like it hasn’t been set up! So far Ive heard maybe at least 5 excuses and there will be more. Did you compare it to the other machines. Yes if you slow down and press harder it will work. Any machine with a motor will work. You can even use a needle with no motor, that will also work, directly poking the skin. BUT vs the the bishop packer it’s rubbish. You see it with your own eyes and still deny it.

@@kemshizzle hmm i dont know bro i do 18 rs lines no problem with cartdridges , i use disposable darklab grips also sometime battery grip peace

Thank you! I’m sure I need to play around with it more.

Infelizmente não tenho condições ainda d ter uma máquina dessa seria um sonho mas um dia Deus me abençoa 🙏

I bought the Vlad for £600, the Bishop wand for about £600 and the Dragonhawk roughly £200.

Thank you! I did them as similar as possible. Maybe hand speed was a little different, but not so much. My point is that when doing it the same, the Vlad fails. You are not 100% correct about the angle, and again the others worked fine!

I guess you aren’t used to have the weight at the back of the machine

Im the one you’re talking to on ebay 😂

Lets talk on instagram. @kemshizzle

I’m selling my avenger 3 for $1200

@@Bigdej I don’t blame you! 😂

@@Bigdejstill selling it? How much? Thank you

I just checked the website! You are wrong! So far I’ve heard every defence. Im looking forward to the next one.

It’s designed with an armature bar like a coil machine that uses normal needles - and has a return spring that works against the tension of a cartridge membrane - they can say what they want on their website and you can believe what you want , but unless you test it with traditional needles you really aren’t making an apples to apples comparison . Sure it CAN use cartridges , doesn’t mean it was really designed to work at its best that way . Nevermind the different hand speed you’re using or the fact that not all electric motors function at the same voltage . But what do I know 🤷‍♂️

And im not defending it , I don’t even own one , just pointing out the ridiculous nature of this comparison .

@@adampaterson6784 first my hand speed isn’t that different. And the point of this video is to show that it doesn’t work as advertised! I used the settings that Vlad themselves recommended. With a higher voltage and “more powerful motor” it doesn’t perform as they say it does, compared to the others. It is a perfect comparison, because those other machines work as advertised

And what did I use? It clearly says thats what I used. Also you’re wrong they advertise lower. You obviously didn’t do your homework

@@kemshizzle I,m running my shop since 1996 and working with VB machines for years ( so I did my homework before writing )…You simply don’t do lines with 4,7 stroke…Just turn it down on 3,5 and by heavy skin parts on 4,2 and don’t go over 8 Volt…

My first comment was on the ironic side dude….(((. So again , don’t do the lines with 4,7 stroke …

@@dudedude4034 I appreciate you trying to help but you are just wrong! Bishop has a liner with 5mm stroke. So far I have heard every excuse. Why would it work with 4.2 and not 4.7. Why would a hard hit line less effectively than a softer hit. What you are saying is genuinely dumb.

@@kemshizzle It’s written above how long I running my shop….To call someone who is in business 30 years , unlike you obviously, and who is working with VB equipment over 10 years " dumb " doesn’t makes you more " clever " dude…I,m sorry for your customers if you lining them with 4,7 stroke , to keep it short….(((.

You see it with your own eyes and still deny it!