The former world chess champion Vladimir Kramnik gets destroyed by an International Master cheater from Iran and immediately leaves the tournament and ends the stream! THE FUNNIEST ENDING EVER LMAO! #twitch #chess #clips
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@ChessKingsTV7774 ай бұрын
Kramnik left the tournament and ended the stream after this game! LMFAO!!!
@RedwanurRahaman-cv9mr4 ай бұрын
people now actually can cheat against him as nobody will believe that kramnik is being cheated.
@carlkligerman19814 ай бұрын
I don’t think it’s funny to be honest it’s pretty sad. Kramnik is a legend and none of us should revel in his becoming a laughing stock. I ain’t defending his actions, it’s ridiculous, especially in this case in which I think it’s pretty clear his opponent was NOT cheating, but still it’s possible I think that this could be early onset dementia or something like that, I mean it really is weird that he missed that combination at all, let alone be so quick to judge an opponent who found it as cheating. Somebody close to him needs to get him some help
@yugiohfanatic19644 ай бұрын
ahahahahhaha@@carlkligerman1981
@user-yq6ll9we4o4 ай бұрын
@@carlkligerman1981какое слабоумие . У него IQ 190 У шахматистов слабоумие в глубокой старости не бывает. Не любит он читеров.
@ArtyomPalvelev4 ай бұрын
And what is funny around here? You know, laughing for no reason makes you look like an idiot.
@joshuaguo13264 ай бұрын
"Let's do the procedure" hahaha, more videos like this plz
@michaelmassaro43754 ай бұрын
That kills me too 😅with that ‘ok let’s do the procedure ‘ Hysterical 😅
@ottomaddoxx53604 ай бұрын
It sure seemed like he decided before the game started that his opponent was going to be a cheater. Before any moves were ever made.
@usptact4 ай бұрын
I’m starting to suspect that Kramnik plays just to catch cheaters and use the block button.
@RpgplayersInc4 ай бұрын
I'm starting to suspect he just blocks anyone who beats him so he won't have to lose again.
@timegor8444 ай бұрын
It feels like he suspects of cheating everyone who he lose to
@nicbentulan4 ай бұрын
@@RpgplayersInc Do you deny Hikaru cheated Levon in the 2016 candidates?
@Juaneduardomilani3 ай бұрын
Y aveces muestra su talento ganado al número 2 del mundo caruana
@Kbax36142 ай бұрын
@@RpgplayersIncbro h get outplayed by some randoms and beats super gms. That doesn’t make sense
@partencon96054 ай бұрын
Honestly the second he clicked on his opponents name and saw that he has lost to them before I thought he was gonna be like yep this is a cheater
@ADliver44304 ай бұрын
He was right on this one actually It's 100% a cheater
@axelconde5294 ай бұрын
Bro 98% its so carlsen, obviously was cheating
@partencon96054 ай бұрын
@ADliver4430 @axelconde529 this is a joke 😂
@DominikKo334 ай бұрын
I guess Kramnik would even accuse chess engine of cheating if he loses.
@user-xe8zi4wd8t4 ай бұрын
He did in this video I think)
@kenchuck95444 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@Daelon894 ай бұрын
Poor man he doesn't realize that has become a clown and keep going deeper and deeper in the depths of self embarrassment
@ADliver44304 ай бұрын
@@Daelon89 I'm pretty amazed to read so many comments of people who obviously know nothing about chess and can not even realize he's more than right for this particular case ...
@RedwanurRahaman-cv9mr4 ай бұрын
So you mean everyone got a licence now to cheat against him and he can't even complain
@RpgplayersInc4 ай бұрын
*Someone outplays Kramnik* Kramnik: Interesting.
@igorwysocki82wysocki924 ай бұрын
You almost got a draw, Drawnik. Cheer up!
@debater_z4 ай бұрын
Everyone is saying that this guy isn't a cheater bc kramnik accused hikaru but that is definetly a cheater
@RedwanurRahaman-cv9mr4 ай бұрын
looks like people got licence to cheat against kramnik.
@enriquegenequilis9614 ай бұрын
@@RedwanurRahaman-cv9mr Im disagree with Krammik accusaation but he was cheating. Check the game on your pc.
@fabienp36684 ай бұрын
@@enriquegenequilis961 you have the link of this game?
@logan31864 ай бұрын
Kramnik catches a lot of hate nowadays. But the fact of the matter is, he's RIGHT. Even though people don't wanna admit it, and would rather hate him, cheating is rampant in high level chess. And cheating is how a lot of players reached that level. Now having said that, he's pretty dumb for implying that Hikaru cheated. I honestly think Kramnik is a blessing to chess, and we need more people like him. He seems like a great guy who's just fed up with where chess is headed, in my honest opinion
@fkdkfnfnldbjdbfjd71794 ай бұрын
He’s right. There is a lot of cheaters, that’s why his approach to handling the situation is so dangerous. He’s making himself look silly accusing anyone and everyone, including Hikaru. Makes him seem less credible.
@logan31864 ай бұрын
@@fkdkfnfnldbjdbfjd7179 Spot on! And he's doing it in a childish way. Rather than submitting the games in question privately to the proper FIDE authorities, he tweets and tries to stir the pot. Even accusing people like Hikaru who clearly aren't cheating. Makes it seem like he's just a sore loser. In spite of all that, I still like Kramnik and think he's a good guy
@johndelatorre47944 ай бұрын
He's right sometimes but he has lost the plot, he is not playing good chess and if anyone beats him then he thinks they are cheating. Sad to watch.
@yugiohfanatic19644 ай бұрын
exactly ahahahhaha he retired and belongs to a different epoch of chess. Blitz is a trash tilting machine even for best players@@johndelatorre4794
@logan31864 ай бұрын
@@johndelatorre4794 Yeah, that's the problem. Whenever someone outplays him, it seems like he just accuses them of cheating rather than admitting he lost. He's fallen into an ego trap. He is obviously pulling the cheating card too often, but I'd like to think that he can still acknowledge when his opponent outplayed him
@milad77644 ай бұрын
I am from Iran and I watched this game last week. The Iranain oppnent is a legit well known old player. He was champion in Iran 20 years ago, and definitely strong player. Cheating is mainly matter for people who has no title. If you look at oppening, the white player didn't do anything crazy for oppening. The accuracy of white was only 91 Also. I really doubt cheating was the case. Kramnik should learn to respect when he is losing, even if he thinks the oppnent was cheating. He can always report the player and game later.
@DarkSideChess4 ай бұрын
100% agree. The tactics are not too difficult to spot. I could spot them in a slow game. an IM could spot them in a blitz game.
@ioanicii234 ай бұрын
Неадекватен си! Намали овнешкото, ще спадне и холестерола, а от там ще се нормализира и мисловната дейност! Какво като тоя дърт пес е бил шампион на Иран, да не би света да свършва с Иран, Големия Влад беше световен шампион, смаза Каспаров, победи и нашия Топалов, въобще какво да ти обяснявам, този сайт изначално е пълен със загубеняци, а администраторите нехаят и не вземат никакви мерки да пресекат тази зараза. Лъже се от ниво 1000ело, до ниво 3000ело по тяхната система, видно за всеки нормален, друг е въпроса защо такъв велик шампион си губи времето да играе с идиоти от такъв калибър?
@idontcareaboutthisshit4 ай бұрын
what do you mean? this iran player is 20 years old
@iniohos24 ай бұрын
Wtf r u talking about? It's a young cheater.
@derekk82804 ай бұрын
Hans Niemann cheated and he’s a GM. You have no clue what you’re talking about
@NCore_._2 ай бұрын
Someone tell him he can drag the pieces instead of clicking twice on that rusty trunk of a mouse...
@jevitigre4 ай бұрын
There is a video of Kramnik where he does his usual cheating accusation, the funny thing is that Kramnik was completely winning but missed the winning sequence of moves, and it want that hard to see, Nakamura and Dina Belenkaya commented on that video
@notchris4604 ай бұрын
Could you send a link of that video?
@jevitigre4 ай бұрын
@@notchris460 Nakamura has in his channel, I dont know how to send the link with the phone, but clearly Kramnik missed the win
@bigheadrhino4 ай бұрын
It was actually a really simple miss too. Something someone way below his level would have seen.
@ahmedm62284 ай бұрын
Do you know the title of Hikaru's video because I can't find it. Also, according to Stockfish, Kramnik never had an advantage in this game. I'm not saying his opponent cheated but what was that winning sequence of moves you're referring to?
@jevitigre4 ай бұрын
@@ahmedm6228I'm not refering ti this game in particular, the game I am refering was pawn ending, the fact Is that Kramnik was so focused in that the oponent is a cheater that he completely overlooked that he could promote fiesta and deliver checkmate, Hikaru was shocked that Vlad missed that and started laughing, but I Will check to see if I find it and tell you the vídeo title
@carlkligerman19814 ай бұрын
I don’t know the cadence of Kramnik’s opponents moves seemed natural to me. It’s weird that he automatically assumes an IM that calculated an attacking combination that Kramnik admits, during play, that he missed, is cheating. It’s getting weirder and weirder, he even admits he is tired after the game, and let’s face it, he is no spring chicken and it’s not like the IM played a ridiculously deep line or anything, he just saw a clear tactic Kramnik missed! Bizarre, I love Kramnik but his behaviour of late is pretty poor actually. :(
@SweetJP.4 ай бұрын
yea it was all fair. It took me not even half a second seeing RxN. rest of the moves looked very natural to me. I think Kramnik is just getting to the age where things get harder to understand. it's happened to top players before.
Why do you love him though? He's a paranoid, old, jealous man
@akisamekoetsuji23554 ай бұрын
I have no doubt that you are way better than me but at 2:05 when his opponent played g3 Ke7 for h4 it looks pretty like a computer. What I say is not that the opponent of Kramnik cheated for sure but there is a doubt.
@anotherelvis4 ай бұрын
2:46 The engine says that Ng6 was a mistake. c5 was better But I cannot judge if a human could have seen this.
@l3onixanewbeginningtm4124 ай бұрын
Ha ha ha, bro is accusing everyone he loses again of cheating😂
@gumarro7219 күн бұрын
This Kramnik thing accusing everybody of cheating is all a big confusion caused by the fact that he doesn't know what drag and drop is😂
@CollectorsFix4 ай бұрын
Seemed like a normal game to me. The opponent even pre-moved several moves meaning he already saw the sequences.
@martinsauer53114 ай бұрын
Kramnik is just paranoid. He thinks just because he once was the world champion he will be unbeatable forever. So everyone who wins against him obviously must be a cheater.
@agelosmata4 ай бұрын
What sequences? It changes his plan in very complex lines within a few seconds after each opponent's move. Last line was easy for an IM bcs SF did all the previus dirty work
@regardzz4 ай бұрын
Delusional 😂😂 stay 500 elo if this was complex 😂😂@@agelosmata
@agelosmata4 ай бұрын
@@regardzz who allowed kindergartners to participate in the comment section ? Go bak to your mom kid
@prince59223 ай бұрын
@@regardzzand what's your rating? 501?
@GymChess4 ай бұрын
He didn’t play well it’s as simple as that, and if you either underestimate your opponent or just play one bad move after the other, you’ll lose no matter what your name is.
@maxdruno4368Ай бұрын
98.3% accuracy against GM, right. Also plays in complicated position without thinking.
@niqbal3 ай бұрын
I'm sick of this guy constantly accusing players of cheating. I've had players accuse me of cheating when I've outplayed them. It's just sad and shows he's a bad sport. I hope he grows up.
@soeindurcheinander4 ай бұрын
Die Spielzüge habe ich als Amateur auch gesehen. Betrüge ich dann??😮😮😮
@JJChess4 ай бұрын
Ich habe die auch gesehen, wir sind besser als Kramnik
@danieldbdb4 ай бұрын
Whenever Kramnik and Nakamura lose to lesser titled players, they claim they are cheaters. Bad losers.
@teh_kaczuch4 ай бұрын
Kramnik's opponent didn't seem for me to be a cheater. Just played a well game, all tactics were findable, gg for him and L for Kramnik
@patriotdrone95664 ай бұрын
Looked him up on the App. All stats are normal. He 100% didn't cheat and still active. Kramnik is mentally ill.
@zaicons22814 ай бұрын
Agree. Kramnik's opening choice was bad. He had a bad light square bishop, have isolated and double pawns. It's very clear that white has the upperhanded after 10th move i think.
@treefuns50564 ай бұрын
You guys debating, ha you stupid idiots are probably not even a fraction of what Kramnik has achieved, if an IM plays with 99 or 98 percent accuracy consistently why isn't he a GM.
@maxdruno4368Ай бұрын
@@patriotdrone9566 98.3% accuracy against GM, right. Also plays in complicated position without thinking.
@Bulinn4 ай бұрын
Thou shalt no cheat.
@nonsencephilosophy4 ай бұрын
i wonder what happens when he gets matched up against Magnus
@bchain64164 ай бұрын
Something you guys should notice is that when you do a game review, the engine analyses the whole game in approximately 3 seconds. This means that the engine does not analyse anywhere near its full strength.
@zacharysherry29104 ай бұрын
We notice
@JustAPokemonCommentingOnVideos4 ай бұрын
you can increase its depth theres slow and fast game review options kramnik has the low depth one
@cyin9744 ай бұрын
A little unrelated but just something to note, the game review is that fast because of cloud analysis being able to run multiple moves in parallel. If you analyze locally on your own pc it won't be anywhere as fast for similar depths.
@misterunknown89234 ай бұрын
He's slowly making himself the laughing stock of the chess world. This is not going to end well i'm afraid.
@albertledromadaire4 ай бұрын
Do you really think that an international master can beat a former world champion in this way?
@misterunknown89234 ай бұрын
@@albertledromadaire Definitely possible, if you think otherwise something's wrong with your critical thinking skills.
@goldeneagle2564 ай бұрын
@@albertledromadaire theres less then 100 elo difference between them. that means other guy should have a fair and good chance of winning ageinst kramnik. he won classical world championship 15 years ago. thats could just as easily been a lifetime ago considering the new tools we have had last few years to help people improve. kramnik just simply havent kept up since he won back then, and especially when it comes to rapid chess. for me kramnik just looks like an bitter old man that dosent realize he havent kept up with the new times, and instead of accepting it, he blames everyone around him for cheeting. its really sad this is probably what he gonna be remembered of instead of his archivements on the chessboard
@AKhan03724 ай бұрын
@@albertledromadaire 'The dude is an IM with 2800 online Blitz rating. Of course he can beat a former WC who has 2900 online blitz rating. The rating difference is only 100 points
@Meurth4 ай бұрын
@@goldeneagle256 His fide rating is like 300 points lower than Kramnik's
@cantom27944 ай бұрын
Meti use Stockfish or Kramnik has paranoia ?
@Leszczu1454 ай бұрын
Kramnik's face before he even started to play...he already knew...IM...from Iran... :D
@arielavakem76764 ай бұрын
He’s not a cheater, he’s an Iranian international master, and he just played really well in this match his moves were all logical,
@andro99991Ай бұрын
98.3 accuracy in a complicated endgame is a strong indicator of cheating, unfortunately. Not to mention that the guy had a +6 score before this game in a tournament where people like Magnus, Naka, Kramnik, Grischuk, Dubov...play. 98.3 accuracy against a 2700+ gm and a former WC is akin to a player scoring 5 goals in World Cup or Champions League final. It simply doesn't happen. In online chess it does? Why? Because people use engines.
@arielavakem7676Ай бұрын
@@andro99991 I’ve had plus 96 accuracy in many games, and less than 60 in others, many top players like magnus do t perform well in some tournaments like title Tuesday, while others do, I’m an Iranian and I know the guy, he’s a legit player, I’ve made analysis videos of some of his games. He’s name is Mehdi Gholami
@arielavakem7676Ай бұрын
@@andro99991 I’ve had plus 96 accuracy in many games, and less than 60 in others, many top players like Magnus sometimes don’t do well in some tournaments like title Tuesday. I’ve made some analysis videos about some of his games. He’s a legit player. His name is Mehdi Gholami
@elitistllama49922 күн бұрын
A little too fast to have that acccuracy tho. Can't really blame him for suspecting
@emilsadykhov123Ай бұрын
Your opponent missed Nxd5 and you still think he cheated?
@KostasOreopoulos4 ай бұрын
Tactics in this game were very very easy to spot. White always has e4 on his mind. Also there was no need to calculate till the end. Just the hanging bishop was enough for white to go for e4. It happened that everything else worked too, but the rest was too easy, even for an 1800 player to spot in seconds. Besides TT now have at least one camera on. Dont they?
@alfredhedelykkewegger23324 ай бұрын
This do feel like a cheater. People who comment about how they also have gotten games with close to perfekt accuracy forget that the longer the game and the better the resistence the harder it is to play near perfect, sure i also slam some 1600 with 96% in blitz in an 18 move game once in a blue moon, but to get 98,3% in a relativly long game with no major mistake is not easy. I also read that all the moves seems nartual, but forget to realize that there are MANY moves that seems natural in most positions yet to chose the best one every time is NOT normal for an IM or GM in blitz.. Not taking on d5 seems weird for blitz. 93% this guy cheated at least somewhere.
@ArkaDhara4 ай бұрын
I am 1700 and I have played a game against a 2200(our district level champion) with 98.6 accuracy and still lost ........so that means he cheated ??
@zacharysherry29104 ай бұрын
Superbeast as usual Kramnik! 👍
@V-CONTACT-jv4fj4 ай бұрын
98 % are to high
@gmallada4 ай бұрын
Vladimir... Please... Not more 3 minutes games.. you are a real champion... Play Minimum at 15 min./Game...
@stolensoul23554 ай бұрын
I would suspect a cheater there too. After f5 (horrible positional blunder i think) Nf4 and so one was strategical winning for white. And the fact, that the opponent dont go for Nxd5/ and Rc8+...a little bit sus
@PhantomAyz3 ай бұрын
opponent blunders: cheater opponent plays well: cheater
@alirjeff30964 ай бұрын
Poor his wife😂
@kolektivmozak2384 ай бұрын
Kramnik's routine when he loses the game " 1. Block the opponent. 2. "Analyze" 3. Leave the tournament and log out" :-) 🤣🤣🤣
@NorthStar20042 ай бұрын
The procedure
@Pullapelle4 ай бұрын
Legendary mouse skills!! Grumpy old man 😂
@MsUncleKevin9 күн бұрын
fhat
@chreeshawn4 ай бұрын
am i the only one bothered by the click to move instead of dragging?
@jasonparker61384 ай бұрын
Somebody should tell him about click and drag.
@ChessKingsTV7774 ай бұрын
Wait! Magnus doesn't click and drag too right?
@Kosta1104 ай бұрын
I believe Magnus does it by choice but Kramnik seems like a total beginner in the computer world and somebody needs to tell him about click and drag.
@ChessKingsTV7774 ай бұрын
@@Kosta110 Kramnik knows. He said he mouse slips a lot with click and drag.
@konradkg4 ай бұрын
it's so easy to blunder by release to far or to close.
@jasonparker61384 ай бұрын
@@ChessKingsTV777 Yeah I spoke too soon. The battery in my mouse is getting low and I had several mouse slips. Now I am clicking squares with Kramnik like it's 1999.
@kastriothaxhiu443 ай бұрын
Specifically in this Match he was playing against Mahdi Gholami he is Iranian IM and is very much talented player and he is not a cheater. Vladimir is right there are a lot of cheaters but he only says that when is playing badly
@adnbdr49732 ай бұрын
Dalam pikiran kramnik: kalo dia melakukan langkah bagus yang tidak terduga pasti curang
@juancarlosyacukz80194 ай бұрын
It seems to me like the boy who take away the ball every time he loses, what if the oponent just played the game of his life?
@maxdruno4368Ай бұрын
98.3% accuracy against GM, right. Also plays in complicated position without thinking.
@Amar-rc4dc4 ай бұрын
Keep it to yourself bro. We love you just be cool
@AliciaChen-sv3lsКүн бұрын
When he lost always accuse ppl cheating... like he accused hikaru is cheating
@Amiteshtiwarii4 ай бұрын
How to conclude that opponent is cheater or not?
@l.d.t.63273 ай бұрын
If he beats Kramnik in an online game, he must be a cheater (Kramnik's logic).
@Amiteshtiwarii3 ай бұрын
@@l.d.t.6327 🤣
@Frostgaming3354 ай бұрын
Ye, it's obv cheater. 2300 player who see 10+ first line moves in few seconds. Catched.
@FatsoFit4 ай бұрын
Bro it’s a common position ,people usually have played this position many times, so of course he knows the moves
@Frostgaming3354 ай бұрын
@@FatsoFit I mean this was 35 moves later than the opening stage. Nobody knows so far :3
@MythicalJaydenOriginalАй бұрын
@@Frostgaming335unless they do and we are falsely accusing them
@doyoustropez80154 ай бұрын
I absolutly don't understand where K saw an engine behind the IM play???
@Meurth4 ай бұрын
98,3% accuracy
@zengarland44214 ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure it was in the midgame, when things got really complicated. Especially in very complex positions, it's very easy to make a mistake. So most humans do. But some people might cheat for a few moves when they don't really know what to do, and then go back to playing without assistance once the position clears up.
@misterunknown89234 ай бұрын
@@zengarland4421 Also everyone has his genius moments where everything goes well, even a 1500 rated player can have a 98.3% accuracy game every now and then. Wouldn't be common, but it's not weird or impossible.
@mavenofmacau63914 ай бұрын
guy played too fast imo
@user-eo1zs5tn4m4 ай бұрын
I used to play when I was a child after decades afew days ago I played online a couple of times. in one game I had 94.9 accuracy and I'm nobody
@StartUpwithSid4 ай бұрын
i am not sure whether he is calling the opponent a cheater just because he lost the game. i hope thats not the case but if it is then Kramnik is a bad loser. haha. he should definitely learn to lose with pride
@tangarz535711 күн бұрын
I’d, report him for stalling. I hate it when players do that.
@martinmeldrumatsenshu63974 ай бұрын
All moves including not taking advantage of his blunder???? The blunder he pointed out himself??
@maxdruno4368Ай бұрын
98.3% accuracy against GM, right. Also plays in complicated position without thinking.
@borisgorski75744 ай бұрын
Poor Volodya...Finally you will all know the truth about the Elista scandal 2006. Аnd how cables were subsequently discovered in the toilet...
@kirokirov-lu8csАй бұрын
Ти па винаги има какво да кажеш !!!
@borisgorski7574Ай бұрын
@@kirokirov-lu8cs Защо ? Не е ли вярно ?.. Всъщност, като се замисля - прав си ! Толкова е смешен и жалък в последните години, че дори коментарите са излишни...
@kirokirov-lu8csАй бұрын
@@borisgorski7574 да не е северно македонец ,или "умно красив" анти-комунист-русофоб 🙄
@insanestuff9470Ай бұрын
Kramnik lost his respect from everyone
@davidmasse28294 ай бұрын
Kramnik isn’t messing around. He’s catching all these no good cheaters.
@kevinharlan18864 ай бұрын
Sure. When you accuse everyone, you're bound to catch the cheaters (as well as the non-cheaters). Too bad he can't tell the two groups apart.
@stewiegriffin65034 ай бұрын
why is he clicking twice ? he can just drag and drop
@AndersonAlves-xf3hp4 ай бұрын
Anti-Mouse slip blunder
@verstraetenandre4 ай бұрын
@@AndersonAlves-xf3hp yeah, i do that often too... dragging is not safe!
@fh22344 ай бұрын
@@AndersonAlves-xf3hp How does that make any sense. You can also mouse slip while trying to click on a specific square same like letting go the click on a specific square while dragging.
@ElSantoDeMostoles4 ай бұрын
@@fh2234 It does make sense. Think again
@fh22344 ай бұрын
@@ElSantoDeMostoles It doesnt, think again - uno reverse
@royal_gambit_e44 ай бұрын
Hello, I'm not a pro chess player but my rating is about 2000. It doesn't seem to be a cheater. I mean tactics like this you see in 1800 rated games. He's 2850 rated so about 100 points between you two. That means you will not beat him 100% of the games you play against him. Also he created his chess account in 2019. Cheaters usualy have new accounts.
@dr.khallodkamilia43914 ай бұрын
Honestly the way Kramnik played like my ass. I'm surprised that a world champion plays defense this badly
@ankeborg91223 ай бұрын
Against a strong engine even Magnus Carlsen will look bad. You don't understand engines and cheating.
@summonersummoner95364 ай бұрын
Kramnik is on 🎯
@FGDH73543 ай бұрын
Everything is clear to me - Kramnik has become paranoid! If he loses, his opponent cheated 🤔
@maxdruno4368Ай бұрын
98.3% accuracy against GM, right. Also plays in complicated position without thinking.
@fairtrue45574 ай бұрын
thieves steal smartly so as not to be understood, they steal a few moves in a critical phase of the game
@RedwanurRahaman-cv9mr4 ай бұрын
last few moves were not difficult but in the middlegame some moves were critical like at 3:35 rook to c5.it was a crucial move and might be an engine move.
@robsontrader4 ай бұрын
They always turn on the engine at middlegame because openings are all about theory and you can do these moves almost instantly. Problem is when even when you do middlegame chaotically, they always find a miracle move to counteract all your movements. This is when you find a cheater.
@calio07334 ай бұрын
@@RedwanurRahaman-cv9mrRc5 seems to me like the normal move, even an untitled club player would do. I mean, you don't have many pieces to improve easily in that position to something useful other than that rook attacking a hanging pawn in active position. Then finding e4 trick so quick because of bishop hanging is much less obvious to me, but still not something crazy for IM level. Then the final tactical secuence would come along the way even if he didn't see that deep when doing e4. Check check check check... not so hard to spot after exd3, as Kramnik himself did in few seconds.
@magicsinglez4 ай бұрын
If he was really cheating, wouldn’t the cheater have won?
@Amar-rc4dc4 ай бұрын
Man... he is making robot move😅 himself
@verstraetenandre4 ай бұрын
Nah, he is making "guy who beat kasparov moves", the other guy is making robot moves!
@michaelmassaro43754 ай бұрын
@@verstraetenandreI didn’t see any good moves by Kramlik his opponent tore into him
@rickmorrow9934 ай бұрын
Looks a lot like a game I played the other day, but I played black and won. The opponent abandoned the game 2 moves from mate.
@Luis-ub9mg4 ай бұрын
Whats your rating
@jofflyАй бұрын
Ok, from Iran .. humm interesting!, was a pleasure play with this fish, reported and blocked!
@juliannaruffini4 ай бұрын
this player is not banned
@raskolnjikov14 ай бұрын
because he didn´t cheat
@freespark27514 ай бұрын
This is really rude that at the start he saw Iran flag and said "let's see if I can put a resistance" like he was sure he is going to cheat. If he is too good why doesn't he play in an OTB tournament to see what he will do there. There might be cheaters but players got strong as well like every other game.
@ChessKingsTV7774 ай бұрын
He said the same thing when he saw an Indian flag in my other video!
@misganwchekole21604 ай бұрын
Does this man think that everyone who beats him is a cheater everyone loses sometimes even top GMs losing is a part of chess.
@maxdruno4368Ай бұрын
98.3% accuracy against GM, right. Also plays in complicated position without thinking.
@misganwchekole2160Ай бұрын
@@maxdruno4368still he is going to lose at some point. Carlsen or hikaru will defeat him.
@jevitigre4 ай бұрын
Wthat the ..? Every time he loses is because his opponent cheted? His oponnent even missed a good tactical move,i think Kramnik has serious personal issues
@ogregolabo4 ай бұрын
Kramnik is beast. Respect
@nghiafischer144 ай бұрын
How to cheat in chess Use stockfish Or win against Kramnik I think the 2nd one is more necessary
@patriotdrone95664 ай бұрын
Kramnik is a sad joke. Just looked up MetiForce on the app. He definitely did not cheat. He win loss stats are normal and he's a IM and chess coach. I hope they ban Karmnik for his stupidity.
@maxdruno4368Ай бұрын
98.3% accuracy against GM, right. Also plays in complicated position without thinking.
@patriotdrone9566Ай бұрын
@@maxdruno4368 98% is normal in high level play. It is already proven he didn't cheat.
@MythicalJaydenOriginalАй бұрын
@@maxdruno436898% is quite normal at that level mate.... You'll probably understand when you get there one day
@gothiczwo50614 ай бұрын
I cheated Like this as a kid. Just dont Play the strongest moves and do 1-2 misstakes, the engine will still win the Game for you
@delaphiloetdesbaskets94954 ай бұрын
He played at 3650 elo.
@user-fl4qb9hh2q4 ай бұрын
Legend
@alonelhanati38644 ай бұрын
Kramnik is disgrace to himself. poor man. should learn how to lose and how to compete. disgrace.
@ADliver44304 ай бұрын
You know nothing about chess and you're criticizing him when in this particular game it is more than obvious that it was a cheater and a very bad one
@verstraetenandre4 ай бұрын
@@ADliver4430 Also, people love drama and laugh like crazy when Karmnik says something dubious but he's right as a whole and i understand why he finds the cheating on titled tuesday ridiculous!
@michaelmassaro43754 ай бұрын
@@ADliver4430this particular game ? Because of the devastating moves at the end ? Ridiculous you and Kramlik underestimate what players are capable of I don’t think there is definitive proof only accusation which means nothing unless substantiated
@MankDan4 ай бұрын
The opponent plays natural and human moves. Kramnik: "Cheater"
@maxdruno4368Ай бұрын
98.3% accuracy against GM, right. Also plays in complicated position without thinking.
@MankDanАй бұрын
@@maxdruno4368they were all very natural moves
@amirovsky20124 ай бұрын
hhhh let's see if i can put up any resistance 😂😂😂
@EndoftheTownProductions2 ай бұрын
Did the player cheat?
@hydradragonantivirus4 ай бұрын
Such a long winning variation.
@carlkligerman19814 ай бұрын
Well it was a simple enough tactic leading to a winning position. The cadence of the IM’s moves seemed natural enough. I don’t know, I’m obviously not a GM but in my own games it frequently happens that spotting a winning tactic leads to a pretty straight forward conversion, even if it takes ten plus moves after the tactic to get there. That’s the beauty (and terror when you are on the short end of the stick) of chess, good moves lead to elegant winning lines where it seems like you can’t put a foot wrong, bad moves make the board seem like chaos designed to make you look and feel like an idiot. Surely you’ve had this experience yourself, no?
@angrygary1224 ай бұрын
This does not look like sane behaviour. He doesn't even know how to premove. He blundered early in the game. The opponent had normal moves.
@djtroopexalibur59974 ай бұрын
Yea. Agree..he played bad. Really bad. Even me should hold the last position.
@olegvartanov59064 ай бұрын
Have you played 98% against 2700 GM?
@adicontra4 ай бұрын
what cheat? even a noob like me saw the bad position of black since move 9-10. dead light bishop, dead rook on b6, almost no tentative to attack somehow and open the game.
@U_r_hopeless4 ай бұрын
No this was definitely an engine
@bendochess894 ай бұрын
? what says that, i agree he played very fast and very good but he is a 2500 rated young player so if he grinds he probably plays on his own
@U_r_hopeless4 ай бұрын
@@bendochess89 the way he completely outclassed him and played so flawlessly
@milad77644 ай бұрын
Not true. The oppnent was a strong player. He was champion of Iran somewhere 20 to 25 years ago. Old people usually don't cheat with engines, specially if they have title already.
@U_r_hopeless4 ай бұрын
@@milad7764 he was Indian
@kingmo5654 ай бұрын
This is kind of annoying to see. Your opponent clearly missed the Knight takes D5 tactic, which a computer wouldn't have. You're seeing ghosts now Kramnik, I'm 1800 rated and I'm sure you'd accuse me of cheating if we played over the board.
@sean9191914 ай бұрын
Don't get ahead of yourself now xD
@moehoward954 ай бұрын
Kramnik might be old but he's still capable of beating regular GMs. It's just these "gifted" IMs and FMs that give him a lot of trouble.
@HexxuSz4 ай бұрын
you have no idea what he would do to 1800 in 3 min or 5 min time control you can not even get out of opening pal
@kingmo5654 ай бұрын
@@HexxuSz 1800 isn't that bad bub. What rating are you again? Speak for yourself.
@HexxuSz4 ай бұрын
i used to be 1700 15 years ago, vlad would literally fuck me up sideways blindfolded with no time on his clock@@kingmo565 i have played against local gm tornike sanikidze and it was like i did not even know how to play chess. and he was doing blindfolded simul... now imagine kramik
@veloblox4 ай бұрын
There is a problem with cheating in online chess - there is no doubt. Whether this guy did or not - we don’t know. 98.3 for a 3 minute chess match against kramnik is a very high score. But it might just be a game where everything came together for them. Who knows. I’m barely 1000 and I once got 95+ or something, and I thought - they prob think I cheated but I didn’t! All the moves I did just seemed like the right moves. It doesn’t often happen. But I don’t think you can compare 95+ scores against poor players with 95+ scores against IM/GM. It’s a totally different metric because the likelihood of making accurate moves depends on your opponent. I was playing someone of similar level - so not great. Against lower players it’s significantly easier to get a more accurate score as there are no traps to fall into. Kramnik is right to call for a thorough investigation into online chess cheating. I would never get such a score against a 1500+ player. Perhaps he takes matters into his own hands a bit because nothing is ever done about it. I don’t see how online chess from your room can ever be policed properly. Even with camera people can have things hidden. I would not play for money in online chess because it is too open to abuse.
@cmznuke4 ай бұрын
You can actually score pretty high, depending on more factors, like when the bot blundered (or human, doesn't matter). If he blundered in the opening, then all you do is a mop up. Small imperfections (inaccuracies) don't count that much, cause you're still a lot of points ahead on plus. So a "bad move" from +7 to +5, which is normally almost a knight, is still considered good play. Even more important, the big number of moves can consolidate the so called accuracy, given you "slaughter" the opponent in many moves. So yes, I myself got many 90+ accuracy games against chess bots, rated anywhere between 1600 and 2300.
@brettrogers42084 ай бұрын
If kramnic himself saw the line after he played the mistake(hindsight), how is it so implausible his opponent also found the continuation? Maybe it's time he retired. Players have never had this much access to training material ever, he compares them to computers...well duh kramnic, they have been training on computers since most of them were alive..
@ADliver44304 ай бұрын
Sure Kramnik allegations are exagerrated But here it was clearly a cheater and a very bad one But to see people who know nothing about chess commenting and "mocking" him here is frankly ironic You're stupid enough to not even realize he's right for this one
@carlkligerman19814 ай бұрын
I entirely agree, even the cadence of the moves was very natural and it was a simple enough tactic, not some 15 move deep endgame analysis that’s perfect! I love Kramnik, I think chess players and fans all do, but it’s impossible to defend his behaviour of late. Very sad.
@8964TS4 ай бұрын
It annoy me watching Kramnik click the piece and then the square. Just drag it!
@korusgamerbolt44314 ай бұрын
Isn't click click faster than dragging?, like if u wanna drag a rook from a 8 to all opposite side of a1 for example, lol dragging takes long,
@thomsonjonus50064 ай бұрын
I dont drag either unless i have like 7 seconds. Too many mouse slips ruined alot of my games by dragging.
@user-bk9fk2tq2z4 ай бұрын
@@thomsonjonus5006 I had some annoying mouse slips, but I prefer to drag.
@8964TS4 ай бұрын
Surely it’s the same distance to move the mouse across the board whether you’re dragging or clicking?
@Meurth4 ай бұрын
@@8964TS yeah but fewer clicks
@user-en2mx2rr5e3 ай бұрын
When Kramnik loses: Oh no human plays chess better than me no human can beat me he cheated no way he beat me with 98.3 he cheated block him!!!
@brightyoungthings66784 ай бұрын
Its a pity how people hates him because his is vocal about the situation. He is world champion with hudge exp plus even in his age he can beat Dubov in blitz. Stupid haters thats all. Plus he never accused Hikaru the last one made it up
@krishna-wv9db4 ай бұрын
I will call you a cheater if you are 100 elo lesser than me and somehow defeats me
@de5letras14 ай бұрын
I didn't see any evidence that the player was cheating.
@ChessKingsTV7774 ай бұрын
Kramnik's mathematics determined this guy cheats! CAN'T ARGUE WITH THAT!
@de5letras14 ай бұрын
@@ChessKingsTV777 He did that in the video? Where?
@ChessKingsTV7774 ай бұрын
@@de5letras1 You definitely need to check out Kramnik's twitter LOL! You must be new here! 😂😂
@de5letras14 ай бұрын
@@ChessKingsTV777 Yes, I don't know much about Kramnik.
@ChessKingsTV7774 ай бұрын
@@de5letras1 He's a walking anti-cheat GOAT! You have to know him! 😂
@yuriyyermishin75794 ай бұрын
I didn't find this funny, I hate cheaters too, and it is extremely frustrating. Higher than 98 percent accuracy in such a fast and complicated game, from some unknown Master and not even GM does spell a cheater pretty clearly, Kramnik is correct. Not really funny
@ChessKingsTV7774 ай бұрын
You're right! But what can we do about it? We allowed these private companies and instutions to take over chess and now they get to decide what the current and future chess is like.
@elmirg4 ай бұрын
I do think that Kramnik is paranoid regarding top GMs on this platform, but this particular game is of course a game with a cheater ))) crazy accuracy and what is more important - when white play e4 so quickly and confidently, they need to calculate everything until Rxd6, Nc5 otherwise black should hold that imho
@AKhan03724 ай бұрын
There is no proof he cheated.. That's not hard sequence to calculate and everything is forced with not too many branches. Even the site agrees as he is not banned and still playing.
@elmirg4 ай бұрын
@@AKhan0372 site has zillion of cheaters not banned... What is your ELO? Mine is 2420, i am an IM and that sequence with e4 is very hard to find for me in a blitz game
@Sasha-sd6jo4 ай бұрын
U have to be really dumb to thinks this guy cheated
@elmirg4 ай бұрын
@@AKhan0372 what is your elo? I am an IM with 2400+, I find it very hard to start calculating such sequence in a blitz game...
@VictorBat.4 ай бұрын
98%? Wtf
@oleg22054 ай бұрын
even 1800 can do 98. Not a problem.
@maxdruno4368Ай бұрын
@@oleg2205 98.3% accuracy against GM, right. Also plays in complicated position without thinking.
@oleg2205Ай бұрын
@@maxdruno4368 but it is 2800 player. And GM is still a human being. And how we can prove that somebody wasn't thinking?
@benrahmayounes14144 ай бұрын
Everyone beat this guy he called him cheater wtfk 😂😂😂 you're joke Mr karmnik
@macca32814 ай бұрын
I’d hate to be this guys wife! Not coz I’m a heterosexual male myself but coz he’d be accusing u of cheating every other day!
@bchain64164 ай бұрын
Hahaha, just for those who do not understand the accuracy analysis and believe that every low rated player with an accuracy of more than 90% is cheating: I just played a 1 minute bullet game and my opponent won. I have no suspicion that he cheated. His accuracy: 99% 😂(and I even had the deep analysis mode on). Here is the game (My opponent is white): 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Bc5 4.c3 Nf6 5.d4 exd4 6.cxd4 Bb4+ 7.Nc3 Nxe4 8.O-O Bxc3 9.d5 Bf6 10.Re1 Ne7 11.Rxe4 d6 12.Bg5 Bxg5 13.Nxg5 O-O 14.Nxh7 Kxh7 15.Qh5+ Kg8 16.Rh4 f5 17.Qh7+ Kf7 18.Rh6 Rg8 19.Re1 Kf8 20.Rh3 Bd7 21.Rhe3 Nc8 22.Be2 Qf6 23.Bh5 Nb6 24.Re6 Bxe6 25.Rxe6 Qxb2 26.Qxf5+ Qf6 27.Rxf6+
@michaelmassaro43754 ай бұрын
Well you know what to do than Block Him Do the Procedure 😅😂
@-erebor-23614 ай бұрын
He didnt cheated lmao. Normal looking moves, nothing crazy from his part. The last tactic at the end is easily found at their level. And his time consumption is good : fast on obvious moves, and he spent a lot on important décisions and when position is complex
@Ruedigerkackgans124 ай бұрын
and what are your qualifications to judge that better than kramnik? what's your elo
@-erebor-23614 ай бұрын
@@Ruedigerkackgans12 1900
@bchain64164 ай бұрын
@@Ruedigerkackgans12 You can make such judgements with computer assistance, no need to have Kramnik's rating.
@Ruedigerkackgans124 ай бұрын
@@bchain6416 a computer can't tell you if a move or sequence is human bruh
@bchain64164 ай бұрын
@@Ruedigerkackgans12 Of course not bruh, but with computer you can assess the complexity of the game, how deep tactical variation are an so forth.
@AzwanGP4 ай бұрын
Nothing surprising. Anyone who is not Kramnik cannot win against him unless they are cheating. LOL. /s
@mastertoyang4 ай бұрын
Does he even have viewers in his stream? Or is he just babbling to himself?
@michaelmassaro43754 ай бұрын
I watched a couple of his videos left a like but didn’t see any other likes ??
@LifeTutor2784 ай бұрын
The IM is not a cheater he did not get banned he also coaches chess so why would he cheat it would ruin his reputation
@ChessKingsTV7774 ай бұрын
Lmao maybe he wants a win against a former world champion to brag about it to the students lol you never know! People are crazy!
@AlekseiSkorobogatyi-oe5cz4 ай бұрын
of course against Kramnik xD@@ChessKingsTV777
@Icantremelmebrm4 ай бұрын
@@ChessKingsTV777 you are deeply paranoid
@oc68404 ай бұрын
@@Icantremelmebrm you are deeply dumb.
@user-hs2mv3bw7n4 ай бұрын
If every cheater would be already banned, then you are assuming there are no cheaters at all at the time😅