Vocal Coach & Songwriter React to Biggering (deleted from The Lorax) | Song Reaction and Analysis

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Watch first-time reactions and expert analysis with Guinness World Record-breaking vocal coach, Richard Fink IV, and Billboard #1 songwriter, Johnny Cummings.
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TIMESTAMPS
00:00 Introduction to Biggering - the Lorax
01:58 First time hearing Biggering
11:18 Comparing this to How Bad Can I Be
12:24 Conclusion to Biggering vs How Bad Can I Be
13:16 Vocal Assessment and Private Lessons
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SONG CREDITS
Performed by: Gabriel Mann and Randy Crenshaw
Composed by: John Powell and Cinco Paul
Original Video: • Biggering (Original Demo)
*This video is for educational purposes and is not intended to infringe any copyrights
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Пікірлер: 76
@huntercool2232
@huntercool2232 9 ай бұрын
I like how in “How Bad Can I Be?” The Lorax is trying to save the trees, but in “Biggering” he’s trying to save the Onceler.
@worthybutter2004
@worthybutter2004 9 ай бұрын
I'd say he's trying to do both, which i honestly find a great addition to the story. I kinda wish the filmmakers kept that as it would've made the story more than just a cautionary tale about the destruction of the environment, it also would've been a commentary on greed, pride and the human condition.
@estrella-om7tu
@estrella-om7tu 8 ай бұрын
@@worthybutter2004 This shows that the animators and writers wanted to make the movie faithful to the book, they had good ideas but Illumination got in the way and ruined it.
@worthybutter2004
@worthybutter2004 8 ай бұрын
@@estrella-om7tu Unfortunately, yes.
@conscripthornet4430
@conscripthornet4430 7 ай бұрын
@@estrella-om7tu iirc one of the writers or directors of the lorax mentioned it wasn't illumination who cut the song but someone higher up in comcast (the parent company of Universal Pictures which owns Illumination).
@estrella-om7tu
@estrella-om7tu 7 ай бұрын
@@conscripthornet4430 It makes sense, both Illumination and Universal belong to Comcast, someone higher up wouldn't allow a realistic song in a movie, which is ironic.
@huntercool2232
@huntercool2232 9 ай бұрын
Biggering wasn’t too scary for some kids, it was too scary for some adults. Everyone knows the real reason illumination cut the song is because it betrayed corporate greed way too accurately. Kind of ironic that a company would cut a song about corporate greed because of corporate greed.
@okimura690
@okimura690 9 ай бұрын
In a movie about corporate greed
@huntercool2232
@huntercool2232 9 ай бұрын
@@okimura690 Ironic isn’t it?
@frankg2790
@frankg2790 6 ай бұрын
@@huntercool2232 Yes, but I ain't surprised. Corporate America sees environmentalism the same way MTV saw Kurt Cobain: a product that makes them a lot of money because it's anti-corporate. They don't actually give a damn about the environment. They only care about the ability to merchandise and commercialize an environmentalist message.
@ivankostelac-lp2rp
@ivankostelac-lp2rp 4 ай бұрын
Oh the irony is so bad not even hemoglobin is that ironic.(like if you get the joke)
@pushkins26
@pushkins26 3 ай бұрын
Funnier the fact, Onceler makes a fair points defending his "greed". Except in movie he is kind of monopoly and Illumination is in fully competitive environment.
@Thatscrazy_anyway
@Thatscrazy_anyway 10 ай бұрын
We all know why they changed it. Companies felt too called out and had to tone down that master piece of a song to a dumb kid who didn’t know any better because they also use that excuse My favorite line from the original is when the oncler says ‘who cares if something’s are dying’. Not just trees, but a whole ecosystem. How bad can I be is good for mainstream but the whole point of the Lorax is to teach a lesson to future generations, not sugar coating it
@user-id3fc8qs7y
@user-id3fc8qs7y 9 ай бұрын
There's a metaphor for that... "They replaced mirror with photo of them after Photoshop because they didn't like the thing they saw in the mirror"
@huntercool2232
@huntercool2232 9 ай бұрын
Probably one of my favorite differences about both songs is that in “How Bad Can I Be?” The Onceler says ”Who cares if some trees are dying?” Whereas in “Biggering” he says “Who cares if some THINGS are dying?” The difference being that the Onceler in the cut version is far more aware of his actions than he was in “How Bad Can I Be?” and is fully aware that it isn’t just trees that are dying from what he is doing.
@Jason_Ultimate
@Jason_Ultimate 5 ай бұрын
It actually goes even further than that. It goes from "Who cares if a FEW TREES die?" to "Who cares if SOME THINGS are dying?" It goes from just brushing it off as just some trees, and not even very many, to outright acknowledging that animals are dying too, and it's not just a scarce handful either, but he still doesn't care.
@Jasfos89
@Jasfos89 10 ай бұрын
There is a storyboard on KZfaq that provides great visuals to see how it would have been animated and provides great context. Great vid!
@Jasfos89
@Jasfos89 10 ай бұрын
I believe it’s called Biggering Storyboard
@ItsHavocSR
@ItsHavocSR 10 ай бұрын
It's not the actual Storyboard, it was said somewhere else it was a Storyboard for a school project
@worthybutter2004
@worthybutter2004 9 ай бұрын
Which storyboard?
@MRHENTAIR34X7U7
@MRHENTAIR34X7U7 9 ай бұрын
Cuál el de natschema❤
@worthybutter2004
@worthybutter2004 9 ай бұрын
@@MRHENTAIR34X7U7 ¡Sí, el guión gráfico de Natschema es el mejor!
@alyssabullock6421
@alyssabullock6421 6 ай бұрын
Illumination chickened out big time for not using this song. And the sad thing is, it's very likely because they didn't wanna call themselves out. This whole song is absolutely perfect for the movie's subject, and encapsulates the message and entire point of the original animated film from Dr Sues WAY better than "How Bad Can I be". It's intense, it's blunt, it's raw, it's harsh! It's literally pointing out the cruelty and egoism of greed, and how it stems from pride feeding into a person not wanting to admit they're doing wrong until it's too late. And the fact the LORAX in this version wants to SAVE the Onceler from his greed is so thought provoking and really lets his character shine. Because the Lorax WANTS to protect the world, he wants to respect life and help it. So it makes sense that he'd want to save the Onceler from crumbling under his own greed and selfishness. I can't believe we were robbed of a masterpiece like this, but go figure a film company wouldn't want to teach people how bad corporations tend to be.
@dann304
@dann304 10 ай бұрын
love how ppl still apreciate biggering even after so many years, hope you can react to this is the place (tricky version) and you need a thneed from the lorax too, they were deleated as well
@DamnQuilty
@DamnQuilty 10 ай бұрын
Yes to this
@sky-trevishere9638
@sky-trevishere9638 7 ай бұрын
One thing that people keep saying about the Lorax in the cut song is that he’s focusing on saving the onceler. But I find the way that the Lorax is trying to save him so interesting and captivating, because the Lorax is telling the Oneceler to understand his actions, and see them for what they truly are, he’s desperately trying to wake up the Onceler but that is completely thrown out of the window when the Onceler ends up saying “our company is an animal that’s trying to survive”, the Onceler is completely aware, using the same commentary the Lorax gave him. He knows what he’s doing, he knows that things are dying, he knows the PR people are lying to save his skin, he knows everything, which made the Lorax in the end realize the Onceler was completely gone and a lost cause. If you watch the storyboard you get to see the Lorax’s realization far better but honestly the song really does well showing the sheer and terrifying decline of the Onceler who went from business enthusiast wanting to chase a dream of something greater, to a faceless businessman who only cares about “biggering”.
@estrella-om7tu
@estrella-om7tu 7 ай бұрын
Exactly, the Lorax develops better as a character in this song, as does the Onceler, since in this song the Lorax not only wants to save the trees, he also wants to save the Onceler, that is why I love this part of the Lorax that must be analyzed. deeper
@harmonylynx252
@harmonylynx252 7 ай бұрын
How bad can i be is so, waterd down compared to biggering. Biggering is completly dark and loud, while How bad can i be is so positive u forget that its telling a warning story, cause its trying ti be fun over meaningful. Man this somg could have been grand in the film! #needsaliveactionremake
@vraisairs9201
@vraisairs9201 Ай бұрын
People would have remembered this movie more if it had this song in it
@estrella-om7tu
@estrella-om7tu 10 ай бұрын
they should react to the other demo songs on the soundtrack that give an idea of ​​how the plot was originally going to be
@Annonere
@Annonere 8 ай бұрын
I, too, listen to soundtracks and make my own movies in my head. But that's because I'm an author, so it's usually my books that play in my head to the music. There's something amazing about soundtracks. They're emotional and without good music, a movie wouldn't hold the same weight. This song is amazing. I'm sad it was cut from the film. It would have had such an impact, but it also is super different than the rest of the songs, so I can see both sides of the arguement for keeping it and cutting it. I'm glad it was released, though, so we can enjoy it!
@mariacargille1396
@mariacargille1396 3 ай бұрын
Definitely check out some of the wonderful animatics artists have created for Biggering! Visuals absolutely help, and it's really fun to see how different creaters choose to illustrate the piece.
@ladygrey4113
@ladygrey4113 Ай бұрын
There’s tons of artists who’ve done animatics to this song if you want an idea of visuals that could’ve worked with the song
@epsilon388
@epsilon388 12 күн бұрын
Saw this comment on another Biggering reaction video, and I couldn't agree more: "Greed is what makes you say 'I want that thing.' Pride is what makes you look at the consequences and say 'Yeah, so?'"
@germ8282
@germ8282 8 ай бұрын
great video and reaction 👏👏👏
@Throga
@Throga 7 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!!
@iceshard2364
@iceshard2364 9 ай бұрын
Just thinking of soundtracks all I think of is the how to train your dragon soundtrack. Just… magical
@Train115
@Train115 2 ай бұрын
The message in the original is way more real and would've hit way harder. "How Bad Can I Be?" portrays corporate greed as an innocent accident.
@Bennyyoungmusic
@Bennyyoungmusic 10 ай бұрын
There's allot of Lessons i would want to learn
@painstakeranimations9253
@painstakeranimations9253 10 ай бұрын
Thank you guys for this 🫡
@user-id3fc8qs7y
@user-id3fc8qs7y 9 ай бұрын
Replacing song that brings up the topic of greed and taking more than you need just because you can and nature of fittest with... song that only creates the vision of bringing up this topic for better income by SMACKING THE VERY IDEA AND IMPORTANCE OF THIS SONG WITH A HAMMER.
@susangibson8183
@susangibson8183 10 ай бұрын
Great movie...watch it Johnny
@Faren_
@Faren_ 10 ай бұрын
It’s an awful movie. It completely misses the point of the book.
@worthybutter2004
@worthybutter2004 9 ай бұрын
@@Faren_ Yeah, exactly! Why aren't more people checking that out! One of my favourite Dr. Seuss stories ever and Hollywood just ruined it! But at least, we still have the 1972 TV special.
@beeanimation2183
@beeanimation2183 6 ай бұрын
@@Faren_right
@rjplays5525
@rjplays5525 8 ай бұрын
O maior erro da Illumination foi ter divulgado essa música. Só de ouvi-la podemos ter a noção do quanto desproporcional ela é comparada há animação, diferente dá "será que eu sou ruim", que é uma música onde um jovem cararente de atenção da família e imaturo tenta enganar a própria mente de que o que ele faz não é errado pois é algo que não há como evitar, a bigeering por outro lado é a verdadeira essência do onceller, um cara sem empatia, ganancioso e sociopata, que está pronto para fazer qualquer coisa para poder crescer e satisfazer sua ganância, mesmo que ele precise matar animais, manipular a empresa, pagar os melhores advogados para defende-lo e contarem as maiores mentiras possíveis. Mas é claro que se a versão original do filme, junto com a música, fosse lançada, sem sombra de dúvidas que o filme seria a melhor crítica social sobre as empresas que fazem de tudo para ficarem por cima, só que se eles fizessem isso estariam dando um tiro no próprio pé, pois uma das empresas que fazem isso é a mesma que criou esse filme. Eles adulteraram a história dando uma infantilizada, mas cá entre nós, mudar um filme só para ganhar dinheiro "não é tão ruim assim" não é mesmo?
@bored631
@bored631 5 ай бұрын
Plz reacf to thenvile from the lorax it has alot of "omg is this a chruch choir"
@estrella-om7tu
@estrella-om7tu 5 ай бұрын
you mean the demo version of thneedville
@bored631
@bored631 5 ай бұрын
@@estrella-om7tu yea
@DeeFourCee
@DeeFourCee 2 ай бұрын
I like Biggering over How bad can I be. Biggering shows he was aware of his actions but seen it as a necessary evil to succeed his business. How bad can i be makes him seem like an ignorant idiot who was blind to the evil
@user-ru6ks6cp3r
@user-ru6ks6cp3r 4 ай бұрын
Jhonny, you are not missing out on much
@Bennyyoungmusic
@Bennyyoungmusic 10 ай бұрын
How can do a live class with you?
@Throga
@Throga 10 ай бұрын
You can go to www.throga.com and find more info about Voice lessons and/or songwriting lessons!
@Bennyyoungmusic
@Bennyyoungmusic 10 ай бұрын
I checked,seems I would have to take lessons when there's money
@kennmaskin
@kennmaskin 5 ай бұрын
@@Bennyyoungmusicyou think everything’s free? Lol
@PeachMelba0
@PeachMelba0 Ай бұрын
Illumination wanting a more marketable song that doesn't call them out? No way
@ElRon16-tk7hr
@ElRon16-tk7hr 4 күн бұрын
The artist of "How Bad Can I Be?" is the same of "Biggering"
@SuperWeebBros
@SuperWeebBros 9 ай бұрын
Btw, not a demo singer, that's actually Ed Helms singing
@dann304
@dann304 9 ай бұрын
it is a demo singer from the 88, Ed helms sounds different
@WEYYYY874
@WEYYYY874 2 ай бұрын
@@dann304it’s a guy called Gabriel Mann.
@trilexfix
@trilexfix 8 ай бұрын
the original film is better also it's lame this song never was in the movie
@Gigi_Waechter
@Gigi_Waechter 10 ай бұрын
Hi.. would appreciate if you could also react to SB19 MAPA lyric vid. And live Performance of this in WISHBUS USA! It's an amazing song 😊 ❤thank you so much in adv😊Hi frm Switzerland ❤
@Muzikman127
@Muzikman127 Ай бұрын
Annoyed you didn't really comment on any details of the vocal performance at all, especially considering the title of the video. Just sort of rambled about how music & visuals together are good… Okay?
@HGxxx000
@HGxxx000 10 ай бұрын
Please react Forestella!! They are Korea Crossover vocal group and King of Harmony!! I recommend UTOPIA for their original song => kzfaq.info/get/bejne/l7pioMWkqbfbnH0.html And I recommend Bohemian Rhapsody for their cover song => kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rruGrNZ9nrbGqoE.html
@Throga
@Throga 10 ай бұрын
Forestella is on our list!
@Hamantha
@Hamantha 6 ай бұрын
The film is not fantastic honestly😅
@beeanimation2183
@beeanimation2183 6 ай бұрын
0:35 no, I’m gonna scroll you for liking the film
@lovekookie5974
@lovekookie5974 10 ай бұрын
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