Vocal Compression Masterclass
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@johnsnyder4949 Жыл бұрын
i watched this vid again and was convinced to pick it up on thier black friday sale. it makes a huge difference which i find really translates in the mix. i was using the cla 76 but when i switched over to this comp on some mixes i was working on it immediately made a huge different in the clarity of the vocals. definitely a great tool to have and use
@DJ_PROMO_PR 2 жыл бұрын
Another video banger! After all these years making music I'm finally getting a better grasp about the mastering process. Just compression alone is crazy. So interesting how you can use compression (with different settings) depending of sections and dynamics of the track. Also how using automation will complement the amount of compression you need to use. 🔥🔥🔥
@PatrickIrvinemusic 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks David. CL-1b is amazing on vocals.
@philburns5656 2 жыл бұрын
Great stuff. This is really the modern professional sound tool of these days, that noone told me of before. And the changing attack and release times trick is also great. This will improve my mixing for sure. Thank you so much, David!
@lalocura1828 8 ай бұрын
Super dope trick at around 11 minutes i was kinda already doing that myself but just to hear it from you makes me glad. That change in dynamic subtle and unconsciously heard/felt/noticed. Love it
@jean-francoispotvin776 2 жыл бұрын
This is an other trick I didn't think of. Thank you David for helping me grow my skills.
@Swiftopher755 2 жыл бұрын
Needed this, just got a vocal off fiver and it's so dynamic I think the mic must of been on a yoyo
@jontshyza 2 жыл бұрын
😅
@ThreeBeingOne 2 жыл бұрын
Comment gold
@ayobabanla8817 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe, first try automations
@taha_mirza 2 жыл бұрын
use automation .. mix original with 50% parallel compression
@WizzySnow 2 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂
@DiegoParedes 2 жыл бұрын
I did use it before but was working on a mix and put it on a melodic trombone and it is AMAZING.
@DanBires 2 жыл бұрын
Yes love this plugin. I have the UAD version. I like how you utilized going from low vocal waveform with 2.1 and when the vocals get louder the way it smacks it down evenly but really smooth. There is always something to learn about compressors when to use certain settings and not suck the life out of a vocal performance. Thank you. Really cool.
@who_is_dis Жыл бұрын
UAD's is the older version.
@Marshallangelo 2 жыл бұрын
This thing has always been the holy grail on vocals.
@MerajTypeBeat 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve had this for a while but need to revisit it 🔥
@dalydose221 2 жыл бұрын
I agree the plugin is good I have the hardware too. But I switched the stock tubes with telefunken and rca it’s amazing and better in my opinion more top end and more warm.
@Six2Nine 2 жыл бұрын
Hi David Man I double speed your video on yt. In the Intropart you are the fastest rapper on this planet!
@fagnoulmarc 10 ай бұрын
Thanks to you David ! I run to Softube it's paint it Blue time!
@stupendousmusic4190 2 жыл бұрын
David❗️Every time I watch one of these videos of yours, I find something else I didn't know I needed. 😈
@tnsoulman 2 жыл бұрын
It's a killer on bass too! Got to really push into and get a touch of color going.
@lisan_al-ghaib 2 жыл бұрын
This is amazing. It's like a better LA2A.
@user-kf7tu3bz7m 2 жыл бұрын
THANKS A LOT!
@KarasamaBeats 2 жыл бұрын
Damn now i gotta cop this asap ! Din know about this one
@jackstanton1091 Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@cyberhawken 2 жыл бұрын
I mostly used la2a/1176 plugins on vocals but after demoing this 2 years ago it was an instant buy and its been on my vocal tracks ever since.
@bf4lvr Жыл бұрын
Do you use this in series with other comps?
@freshsince1985 2 жыл бұрын
Good video Needed this video bro I already have the soft-tube and uad version it’s a dope compressor I’m saving as we speak for the real one
@jaymusik1235 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks dave
@shockmaticproductions6368 2 жыл бұрын
Its tough ITB to not use the CL1B in the chain or period on vocals. This and the VLA 2A are my to go to's for vocals. Thanks for this video as always!
@bf4lvr Жыл бұрын
I have these 2 plugins, do you use them both in series
@530Zeno 2 жыл бұрын
Been trying to talk myself out of buying more plugins but the cl1mb has been nagging at me. You sold me! I'll make sure I use your link so you get a cut. Thank you! Would love to hear your thoughts on their mik-e comp as my ik distressor (comprexxor) I like but not love and I feel like the soft tube version might be the one as I love getting some more bite on vocals. Hope you're doing well!
@christophemartin3370 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks 🙏🏼
@WassupFred Жыл бұрын
Just got it 😂🎉🎉🎉🎉
@SoundScienceMediaWorks 2 жыл бұрын
I own the hardware and the plug-in is so good at getting the feel of the hardware that I’ve considered selling the hardware multiple times . If it wasn’t for the fact that the hardware is getting harder and harder to get a hold of, I might have done it . I also love turning knobs . But honestly I use the hardware for just tracking now and the plug-in I’m the mix rather than using it as an insert usually
@robshrock-shirakbari1862 2 жыл бұрын
OK, you lost me on that speaker video, but you got me back on this one. 8^) I love this compressor, but didn't know about the mkII update. So I just upgraded. Damn good.
@Reverb-studio 2 жыл бұрын
Waves softube Uad are making Magical tools ❤️❤️❤️💯
@Reverb-studio 2 жыл бұрын
Man Love the mix of this track so much richness❤️❤️. I love richness smoothness glue and BEEFI game what a vibe man the guitars ❤️❤️❤️❤️ 100/100 FOR THE MIX SIR DAVID
@Reverb-studio 2 жыл бұрын
The track on 5:10. ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
@callehellstrom 2 жыл бұрын
I agree it is very good. But I almost like the British Class A compressor (Neve 2254/R Diode-bridge) for vocals (and bass) more. What do you think? Shoot out 😎?
@adsertheblade Жыл бұрын
I found the V1 was smoother than the V2 (used it for compressing real strings), then i bought the Tubesessor and realized that they don't even remotely compare. The compression, to be fair is very similar, but when you start to push the gain, very different things happen. So much faster dialling things in with the real thing as well. But a stereo pair... $$$$ or 4-6...$$$$$
@fausto_colella 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Dave, you really haven't used the CL1-B mk2 ? it's been released from a long while... welcome to the party 🥳 i have a 1991 CL-1B and the mkII plugin definitely has that vibe and behavior nailed. Talking about the whole sound the real tube (please don't use cheap valves!) depth and richness still aren't mastered into this or any other pugin... but you surely know that, the blackbox you have into your rack it's the living proof 😋🙌
@patrickalphenaar 2 жыл бұрын
Very nice Comp indeed! Hmmm i will try my Powercore 6000, CL1B plugin again to see if thats good too. I used it before but didn’t use it for more than 7 years or so. Cheers and nice Vid!
@mixbustv 2 жыл бұрын
It's the MKI, very different from this
@wcarballeira 22 күн бұрын
Late to the party and I’ll get it too
@Fwuzeem 2 жыл бұрын
How does it compare to the mark-i version, or the Titanium3 1B plugin? It does its job, but it's quite different to the mark-i version and the Acustica plugin. A lot of other channels have mixed reviews on it
@TheReal_E.IRIZARRY 2 жыл бұрын
David, you really are coercing me into the tools to becoming a Spotify celeb one day; you really are creating a monster via all these tutorials regular vid and KZfaq shorts. Your new theme song should be "I Want A New Drug/I Want A Plugin That Can Fix" by Huey Lewis & The News because you are always looking for the next best plugin drug and you find it. How's the P-42 Climax still coming along??!
@mixbustv 2 жыл бұрын
P42 is used on every mix and 80% of masters, really impressive plug-in
@AnwaarAliOfficial 5 ай бұрын
1176 compressor by Arturia and La2a type compressor combination is the best👌 ❤
@FatRussianGamer 2 жыл бұрын
There is just something special in the air when you are excited about a plugin 🙏 Have you tried if the pultec emulation on the tube-tech channel is any good?
@mixbustv 2 жыл бұрын
Yes I like the eq too
@ractorstudios 2 жыл бұрын
Always wanted to try one. I know Joe Barresi uses it on his drum bus. This almost sounds so smooth its like it uses automation to make it sound even
@mixbustv 2 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure he uses the LCA 2B which is a stereo VCA (still tube) not the CL2B (which would be the stereo version of this), very different
@sleepisoptional 2 жыл бұрын
used to work in a studio in montreal with CL-1b and my nickname for it was “the pillow”. its much softer than LA3a which i used for rock vocals. cl1b is great on DI bass too. that big peak around 11:00 i would have automated pre compression not to hit so hard. i like to push into compression with a fader instead of using insert
@mixbustv 2 жыл бұрын
Automation is cool but with vocals it's VERY tricky if you do it pre compression. You change the performance a lot, also one of the reasons of using compression is the overcompression, that's exactly why - many times - we pick one instead of the other (see 2A). Reducing it just as dynamic control is about 50% of why we compress
@jermainesmith6315 2 жыл бұрын
Nice. I have the hardware and the MK1. The hardware is irreplaceable, love it. But the MK1 is what drove me to get the hardware because I wasn’t too thrill with it. It was OK but I felt it could use a redo. Looks like I will be upgrading it.
@mixbustv 2 жыл бұрын
MKII slays
@drillgirl718 2 жыл бұрын
MixbusTv i agree, i got both and the new one does less of that chocking thing
@firmans12 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks David i always think i hate thid comp. I own it for like the last 3 years and the only time i use was when i bought it. I always feel its too slow for direct vocals recording. But it sounds great gotta try it now
@mixbustv 2 жыл бұрын
MKI wasn't that great, MKII slays
@sachii.k1802 2 жыл бұрын
I use 4:1 ratio/med attack/fast release for rap vocals and man it just sounds so good!
@drillgirl718 2 жыл бұрын
does it choke???
@sachii.k1802 2 жыл бұрын
@@drillgirl718 nope... Any higher then that then yup
@epsteinkrauss41 3 ай бұрын
How setting output & treshold?
@justice6480 5 ай бұрын
La3a is good as well
@drillgirl718 2 жыл бұрын
what settings u recommend for new trap rap vocals?
@dylanburton8226 2 жыл бұрын
Is the point to compress before audio printing or does the signal have to specifically be compressed before entering the preamp? I am using cubase 11 which allows an input bus to which bridges the gap between my preamp and the first audio track. Can I put a compressor there and get close to the same effect or is this a pointless and a waste of cpu? I had just came to this Video from your video of recording with compression. Thank you for all of the information. I have aquired a wealth of knowledge from your vids. Hats off to you
@mixbustv 2 жыл бұрын
I'm very confused.. You can't put anything before the preamp. The signal path is mic, preamp, anything else. And it cannot be changed as the mic NEEDS a preamp to bring the mic level signal to line level signal which is what EVERY piece of gear require to work. So, you cannot put a mic level signal into a compressor on an eq or anything else.
@Sundaydrumday 2 жыл бұрын
GOOD VIDEO DAVID!!!! THIS WILL HELP TONS, APPRECIATE IT! OH IF YOU GET TIME TO ANSWER IM LOOKING AT THE KALI LP6 FOR MY 1ST MONITORS, IS THAT SAFE OR YOU RECCOMEND ANYTHING ELSE?
@mixbustv 2 жыл бұрын
Eve audio if you can afford
@angelocherymusic 2 жыл бұрын
Wow
@soterisgiatrou7141 2 жыл бұрын
I want these multitracks soooo bad :(
@LanewoodStudios 2 жыл бұрын
Damn, loved this many many years ago when I demoed it but it was too expensive for me at the time. Figured I’d get it when the price went down but never did because I got many other options in the mean time. And now you’re telling me it is STILL the best vocal compressor plugin? Damn 😉.
@mixbustv 2 жыл бұрын
MKII is very different from MKI
@LanewoodStudios 2 жыл бұрын
@@mixbustv ah yes, it is an updated version of course.
@xMaSSxHyST3RiA Жыл бұрын
On sale right now @ Plugin Boutique! From what you and 97.9% of producers are saying I would be stupid not to buy this (yes I watched 1000 videos about vocal comp and 979 producers said they love this one)
@antcall6779 2 жыл бұрын
Hows it side by side to mjuc? I've tried and tried to find something that beats the klanghelm and rvox together. Great as always David 🤘
@FredDeMassiveAlambic 2 жыл бұрын
Check DDMF Magic Death Eye mono and stereo versions, I prefer these over MJUC
@mixbustv 2 жыл бұрын
MJUC is a MU, vintage style MU. This is a tube opto, modern, very very different.
@mixbustv 2 жыл бұрын
Tried the Magic Eye.. I really don't understand it. Underwhelming is an understatement.
@poltergeist_16 Жыл бұрын
What you think about Arturia Tube Sta? Please to do comparison with Softube Tube Tech cl 1
@mixbustv Жыл бұрын
Sta and CL1B are nothing alike
@kingkyoga9263 2 жыл бұрын
If I get this, do you think I would ever need the CLA-2A & CLA-3A again? Or do you know any ways to add this in a mix with all of them?
@mixbustv 2 жыл бұрын
I love the CLA-76, I'm not a big fan of their 2A, the 3A is okay. You won't use the 2A again if you get this. The 3A can be cool for guitars
@kingkyoga9263 2 жыл бұрын
@@mixbustv Great….I’ll probably get this & have yet another wasted plug-in (2A) 😂😂😂😂
@lalocura1828 8 ай бұрын
I also noticed that l1 limiter in your chain before the cl1b made me wonder why im assuming was to help control that over dynamic vocal especially for genre. But idk if im right cuz i feel like you can use serial compression instead hmmm
@mixbustv 8 ай бұрын
You can't swap a limiter with a compressor. They're not the same, they don't do the same things. I use a limiter before a coompressor like the 1B, or 2A so a soft, slow-ish compressor to avoid a few tall peaks to trigger it too much because it if does you either have to lower the threshold too much or, those peaks will sound chocked. You could automate the threshold but I use hardware 99% of the times of vocals and you can't do that with analog, hence the limiter. Limiter limit peaks, compression changes the envelope. Different things, different functions. I have many videos on this.
@lalocura1828 8 ай бұрын
@@mixbustv greatly appreciate your response, I will look into this. I'm also thinking of taking your courses
@marekvoosen 2 жыл бұрын
You should alos try the Sonimus Tuco people.
@flamersss Жыл бұрын
Is this better to replace with a LA2A? like should l track with this or slap it on my chain instead? it’s an opto compressor right?
@mixbustv Жыл бұрын
You can't track with plugins. This is very different than a 2A, no one is better than the other but the 1B is definitely more modern, versatile and found in modern music
@flamersss Жыл бұрын
@@mixbustv Oh okay, is it worse to track with plugins? l have a fairly cheap mic and interface. It’s decent (AKGP120, SSL2 interface) so l thought tracking with plugins(Neve emulation , light plug-in compressor) will make my raw recordings better, would you not recommend to do that?
@nashse7en 7 ай бұрын
Hi David what Attack and release is good for the verse in hip hop vocals?
@mixbustv 7 ай бұрын
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@StarskiYall 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. I love your content and usually agree with you on most things but the cl1b plug-in to me is the worst. It sounds nothing like the hardware and always has a weird pumping sound. I own 2 cl1bs and have had one of them for about 13 years so I’m very familiar with the sound. I could never get the plug-in to sound right. I’ve used both native versions and the UAD version as well. Thanks for all your videos and keep up the good work.
@mixbustv 2 жыл бұрын
The UAD is the old MKI, which is very very different from this one (MKII), and yes the MK1 was indeed too grabby. You don't hear pumping here
@StarskiYall 2 жыл бұрын
@@mixbustv hey! Thanks , yeah I know that. I’ve used and actually own both native versions as well as the UAD one. The MKII still sounds… pinched I think is the word I’m looking for. It loses size where as the hardware doesn’t do that even at 10db of reduction. Most of the time on lead vocals I’ve just been running clients sessions through the hardware cl1b into my pultec eqp1a. Before I do more work to them in the box. Thanks for the response of course all this is just my opinion and experience!
@CoolDali 2 жыл бұрын
Can you do a review on The God Particle plug-in ?
@mixbustv 2 жыл бұрын
If the company gets in touch with me sure
@jpthastoner8217 2 жыл бұрын
Would you say it would be more useful for tracking or mixing???
@mixbustv 2 жыл бұрын
A plugin? You can't track with plugin. The hardware? Yes is amazing for tracking
@vocalbooth_tonstudio Жыл бұрын
@@mixbustv hmmm? You can track with the cl1b plugin with uad console software... but i think its a better option, to use it latter as a plugin in the mixing Prozess ^^ by the way, you can upload your files to a service like access analog, to "track" or better print you vocals with a hardware cl1b for a affordable price 😅 sounds like the plugin, but a little bit more detail in the higher mids 😅
@SydneyValette 2 жыл бұрын
How does it compare to LA2A soundwise?
@mixbustv 2 жыл бұрын
Cleaner, a lot more versatile. It's one of the tracking standards for modern vocals
@fvcvbvcbccbc2803 2 жыл бұрын
Why do I found that sometimes mic like SM7B works best on some vocal? The artist recorded a demo vocal with that mic at home, and I brought her to recording studio recorded with u87 and M149. With so many recording takes, I still found that SM7B sounds the best. Is it possible? Or my ear has some problem.......
@mixbustv 2 жыл бұрын
It is very possible. The SM7 has been a standard studio mic for decades. Why? Because price only matters to some extent, especially with something like vocals. The SM7 is very forgiving on dynamics, it has the best tejection of all mics on the market (useful if one records in a bad room) it handles SPL like a mf and it takes eq very well
@fvcvbvcbccbc2803 2 жыл бұрын
@@mixbustv It makes a lot of sense. I guess I may be misleaded by some people. I know people like to emphasize 'the better microphone, the better circuitry in it' Like I was confused." How a 5500 dollar M184 loses to a SM7B' It must be my problem etc... Your professional opinion definitely gives me lots of confidence on the selections. This is also a major problem for beginner audio engineer. Since they know they are not experienced enough yet, they can't grow tastes with their own decision making. They always are lack of confidence on the conditions I just mentioned( cheap vs expensive) The word' if it sounds good, it is good' is never easy to implement.
@robertatkins6377 2 жыл бұрын
is that because optical compressors compress the average (rms) and not the peaks?
@mixbustv 2 жыл бұрын
Who told you they compress the average (which is an incorrect statement because you don't "compress the RMS", you DETECT the RMS)
@TrapBoiFuse561 2 жыл бұрын
Retro 176 is going to be thr next big thing with vocals
@mixbustv 2 жыл бұрын
It's a mu, it's great, but very peculiar, definitely not a go to or as versatile as CL1B or a 76
@TrapBoiFuse561 2 жыл бұрын
@@mixbustv CL1B to transparent no color at all
@Rob.anonymous 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks David for the Video - I can only agree that a CL1B is for many genres the top pick in case of vocals - plugin sounds „ok“ but the hardware makes a much bigger difference- warmer - more musical overtone’s but the plugin is good as well if u don’t have the chance to use the hardware ;) One question- what u think about the API 2500+ and for which genre and which tracks u would reco him ? Tja is and all the best to you and Bella - as always :)
@mixbustv 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you from the both of us! I had the 2500 for years, eventually sold it because while I love the tone box, I always ended up preferring something else for either 2bus or drums (the main application you will find this compressor used for). It's a great comp, I just have so many that it didn't get much use.
@dek10157 2 жыл бұрын
How do you guys feel about the Uad version
@mixbustv 2 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure is the same, it's developed by softube (I could be wrong, it used to be the case)
@trueneutral3092 2 жыл бұрын
ya'll are unreal identifying a difference in the vocals. i have a pretty decent and dynamic pair of cans (Focal Elex) and for the life of me I can't hear one iota of difference.
@TheSakuraGumiLTD 2 жыл бұрын
Softube: zero disappointment
@aritraarka 2 жыл бұрын
Hey David, very helpful and informative video as always! I wanted to ask, what do you think of the TLA-100A from Softube? (As it's an opto compressor too)
@mixbustv 2 жыл бұрын
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@FredDeMassiveAlambic 2 жыл бұрын
I tried these two in depth and ended up not using it this much. I find the TLA100A emulation much better than the CL1B emulation. The TLA is a sort of "back opto" where a LA2A is a "front opto" : one puts the vocal in your face, the other one more in the back, colors are not so different. However, I find getting much different results when using tube emulation compressors and my choices are now : LA2A emulation (AO or IK), or Arturia's tube STA, or DDMF's MDE. CL1B and TLA100A are not really used anymore and I kinda regret to have bought them.. Just my 2 cents, but it's not this different from good LA2A you can find for free (AO in mind). Choosing a vocal compressor is choosing a colour, a flavor, and these have to be unique imo
@aviatedviewssound4798 2 жыл бұрын
plugin wise the plugin pumps, don't know if they fixed it with a new update.
@konjstip6156 2 жыл бұрын
That's what I wanted to say, I felt it was pumping as hell while demoing, I hear the pumping on these Dave's examples as well...
@mixbustv 2 жыл бұрын
MKI used to, MKII is very different. But it's also settings. CL1B is very grabby for being an opto and low ratio is the key
@kelainefes 2 жыл бұрын
Did you notice excessive pumping on all types of material?
@aviatedviewssound4798 2 жыл бұрын
@@kelainefes yeah it doesn't matter the material it pumped also on bass it messed it up.
@aviatedviewssound4798 2 жыл бұрын
@@mixbustv when i used it in auto mode it didn't but in manual it always pumped, i first tough it was a bug but i think it's like that on purpose, but a ratio of 2 did pump less than 4 which was unbearable for me and a ratio of 2 could work on certain material.
@HKprod90 2 жыл бұрын
Distressor for me
@reggiedillard7731 2 жыл бұрын
I like that one aswell. Any tips on how u like to use it for your vocals?
@spunkadellic 11 ай бұрын
The song rhythm makes me nervous. Love Miley tho.
@gdansk12349 2 жыл бұрын
I think this plugin chokes the vocals more than any other compressor plugin I have. It's just my opinion. I think Softube did an awful job with this plugin. Nothing like the hardware. It's way too grabby too and pumping that should not be there. I really love the Mike E though.
@mixbustv 2 жыл бұрын
Try MKII, you don't hear pumping in this video..
@gdansk12349 2 жыл бұрын
@@mixbustv thanks for the reply! Love your videos! I had the mk11 but sold it. I think it dulls every vocal I put it on. The mojo and the crispyness of the hw is completely lost in the plugin. Again, this is just my opinion. I prefer other plugins for the cl1b vibe. And you are right! There is no pumping in this video
@DaMixWizard 2 жыл бұрын
@@gdansk12349 what vocal compressor plug-in you recommend or like to use?
@tomman7729 2 жыл бұрын
«This video was sponsored by Softube»
@mixbustv 2 жыл бұрын
Only not, lol you people are funny you NEVER get it right 😂
@imhaydenmelrose 2 жыл бұрын
@@mixbustv I'm not saying he's right, but didn't you just tell someone else you'll only review a plugin (The God Particle) if they get in contact with you? That sure makes it seem like you're in it to make deals. Maybe you want them to get in touch with you for other reasons. I don't have all the info. Just an observation.
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