Native American Perspective On The Civil War // Diary of GW Grayson

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Extracts taken from:
Grayson, G. W. (1988). A Creek Warrior for the Confederacy: The Autobiography of Chief G. W. Grayson. The Civilization of the American Indian series. Norman: University of Oklahoma Press.
Edited by Manuel Rubio
Art by Alex Stoica
Sketches and Art by Alfred Waud

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@VoicesofthePast
@VoicesofthePast Жыл бұрын
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@mariobadia4553
@mariobadia4553 Жыл бұрын
Can you do a video of what other natives thought when another tribe slaughtered them to get the territory in the Black Hills
@glane3962
@glane3962 Жыл бұрын
@@mariobadia4553 If any documents exist of personal accounts I’m sure he would but none may exist.
@ximono
@ximono Жыл бұрын
If it's free, you're the product. I bet they're profiling the heck out of you to sell to the highest bidder. Like KZfaq, then.
@forkittens
@forkittens Жыл бұрын
@@ximono they also only giving you the news and advertising they want you to see.
@Blood-hound
@Blood-hound Жыл бұрын
That’s why Russia bullies yall . By doing experiments on your public. 😂 y’all too scared to do something so y’all ignore it
@llokkee
@llokkee Жыл бұрын
The Choctaw people hold a very special place (as do all of the First Nation people) in the hearts of the people over here in Ireland. When word spread around the world of the plight of the Irish during the Great Famine of the 1840s the Choctaw people sent us $170 ( around $12,000 today ) to help alleviate the hunger. Coming from a place where discrimination and rampant land theft by an aggressive foreign power was a regular occurrence, the Choctaw people recognised our plight as theirs. We never forgot what they did for us ( In our eyes ALL First Nation people are our kindred spirits ) so when the pandemic hit America, and we saw how the Navajo people were suffering the most an appeal was set up here in Ireland for our historic brothers and sisters which raised over 2.5 million Euros ( around 3 million dollars ) to help. We were all so grateful to finally be able to return the love and kindness shown to us in our darkest hour all those years ago. Peace to all Greetings from rainy Ireland ;-)
@SStupendous
@SStupendous 5 ай бұрын
Not so much, but even this showed their care. Beautiful to think it happened
@grantlawrence611
@grantlawrence611 2 ай бұрын
I worked with Navajo teens in Gallup New Mexico as a counselor. You will be glad to know that my ancestors are mostly Irish coming over during the great famine. I do believe the Native peoples and the Irish have a special affinity. I feel as if the Navajo are my people. Thanks for your comment. I was aware of the history you recounted.
@glane3962
@glane3962 Жыл бұрын
Fun fact: The last Confederate General to surrender was a Cherokee named Stand Waite.
@ProfessorShnacktime
@ProfessorShnacktime Жыл бұрын
Other fun fact; there’s statues and memorials to this guy in my town!
@glane3962
@glane3962 Жыл бұрын
@@ProfessorShnacktime Really? Where?
@ProfessorShnacktime
@ProfessorShnacktime Жыл бұрын
@@glane3962 I don’t wanna absolutely dox myself lmao, let’s say I live near to the capital of the Cherokee. As Principal Chief he was an important figure (not a statement to his moral character). We have a lot of monuments to important Cherokee figures, there’s a statue of Sequoyah at the university.
@glane3962
@glane3962 Жыл бұрын
@@ProfessorShnacktime I understand and thanks for the info! I didn’t know he was recognized anywhere because the fact the confederates kept fighting after Lees surrender isn’t well known. 👍🏻
@ProfessorShnacktime
@ProfessorShnacktime Жыл бұрын
@@glane3962 No problem. :) I love sharing Native American and Oklahoman history.
@KeiPyn24
@KeiPyn24 Жыл бұрын
As a descendent of Confederate Veterans and Choctaw people, this was a real treat to hear. My Great Grandfather married a Choctaw woman and after the war lived on Nation land in Oklahoma then in Northern Mississippi. Thank you for telling this story.
@KeiPyn24
@KeiPyn24 Жыл бұрын
@Black Lesbian Poet lol. No they were not.
@flasher6597
@flasher6597 Жыл бұрын
@Black Lesbian Poet lol stop trolling or at least try to do a better job at it
@swordartonline6719
@swordartonline6719 Жыл бұрын
@Black Lesbian Poet lol wtf bruh at this point I just laugh when I see stuff like this lmao!!! 😂👌🏾
@KeyserSoze23
@KeyserSoze23 Жыл бұрын
@@KeiPyn24 You fell for a troll dude.
@KeiPyn24
@KeiPyn24 Жыл бұрын
@@KeyserSoze23 lol indeed 😆
@ProfessorShnacktime
@ProfessorShnacktime Жыл бұрын
I’m a Muskogee Creek (Mvskoke), it’s well known in OK that a lot of tribes sided with the Confederacy, and if they didn’t it’s because they had an enemy tribe they wanted to fight so they joined the Union. Not so fun fact; a Cherokee force enacted a racial purge of black people from Wagoner, Oklahoma. Many were killed or arrested.
@marcusdonahue7124
@marcusdonahue7124 Жыл бұрын
It's brave and honorable to acknowledge that. No amount of wrongs make a right, but we need to be brave and call out atrocities young and old, no matter who is guilty. Humanity is flawed, not any one race or variety but all of mankind has the potential for darkness.
@ProfessorShnacktime
@ProfessorShnacktime Жыл бұрын
@Nik Nikkersoon Yeah context is important! Still something worth sharing, considering nearly nobody I know ever talks about it. I learned it only from small local Oklahoma history books.
@MA_KA_PA_TIE
@MA_KA_PA_TIE Жыл бұрын
It's almost like every society has made mistakes.
@MA_KA_PA_TIE
@MA_KA_PA_TIE Жыл бұрын
@@ProfessorShnacktime keep spreading what you learn. History is always worth knowing.
@StonedTuna
@StonedTuna Жыл бұрын
Siyuu friend, good to see come creeks on KZfaq ✌️
@25usd94
@25usd94 Жыл бұрын
This channel’s content is always a gift.
@Jay-bf8yp
@Jay-bf8yp Жыл бұрын
Listening while working and tuned out for a second... The first thing I heard after refocusing was "I'm not sure if we had the strength to strangle these men to death." Definitely went back to see what I missed.
@lynnwood7205
@lynnwood7205 Жыл бұрын
What an interesting diary of a well spoken man observing and reporting the events about him with a clarity seldom found. Thank you.
@MARGATEorcMAULER
@MARGATEorcMAULER Жыл бұрын
Was trying to find words to convey my appreciation of this video and the individual when I happened upon your comment.My sentiments precisely.
@jacobedward2401
@jacobedward2401 Жыл бұрын
Literally joined because people made fun of him for not fighting. Guess that explains why Lee didn't just refuse to fight, pacifism wasn't a respectable position to take.
@barryirlandi4217
@barryirlandi4217 Жыл бұрын
Peer pressure
@hhhhhhhfjjrjrjrjrirh148
@hhhhhhhfjjrjrjrjrirh148 Жыл бұрын
Oh you'd be shocked even in ww2 it was taboo for a able man to not be serving my grandpa actually recalls being made fun of for not serving he was 14 lol
@MrTsiolkovsky
@MrTsiolkovsky Жыл бұрын
A lot of people are goaded into joining. I met one in the Army myself. He became an EOD tech, and served brilliantly.
@MikeHunt-fo3ow
@MikeHunt-fo3ow Жыл бұрын
imagine having to join under the current commander in chief lol
@MikeHunt-fo3ow
@MikeHunt-fo3ow Жыл бұрын
@@lilwerner1518 lmfao
@Artur_M.
@Artur_M. Жыл бұрын
I was about to watch something different, but Voices of the Past uploading a video from such fascinating perspective has priority. Also, I love the style of this relation.
@slowturtle6745
@slowturtle6745 Жыл бұрын
I'm ashamed to admit that I was unaware that the southern Indians involvement in the war was so extensive. That's a gap in my education that I will soon rectify. Thank you.
@moegarcia6592
@moegarcia6592 Жыл бұрын
It also can be the educational agenda depending on where you live
@jwhiskey242
@jwhiskey242 Жыл бұрын
Grayson's book isnt very large, but its fascinating. Ironically, there are no muster rolls that show Grayson ever served, even though he definitely did. William Holland Thomas, that is pictured was a member of the Eastern Band of the Cherokees in NC, neither he or the unit he lead served in the Indian Territory. The photograph at 21:00 are members of Thomas' Legion -aka 69th NC Inf. The photo at 15:06 is Pleasant Porter as young man.
@clarence145
@clarence145 Жыл бұрын
that intro gave me chills. to put life and limb just to prove the haters wrong sounds so badass and romantic
@Special_Tactics_Force_Unit
@Special_Tactics_Force_Unit Жыл бұрын
Yeah leaving your wife and kids behind to fend for themselves is alpha as fuck broooo
@CataciousAmogusevic
@CataciousAmogusevic 8 ай бұрын
​@@Special_Tactics_Force_Unitit was wartime
@Okie89
@Okie89 Жыл бұрын
My Cherokee Great-grandfather is is on the Dawes Roll. His grandfather fought on both sides of the civil war
@MARGATEorcMAULER
@MARGATEorcMAULER Жыл бұрын
GW certainly had a unique literary style.Loved it ,thanks for bringing it to us all.
@moach57
@moach57 Жыл бұрын
I am so glad you used Alfred Waud’s art and even image, but I am sad he is not credited.
@VoicesofthePast
@VoicesofthePast Жыл бұрын
Have credited now - thanks for pointing it out.
@moach57
@moach57 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the reply and quick fix, I do love your videos!
@marienkijne
@marienkijne Жыл бұрын
You have a rare narrating voice, no matter where these stories were lived, it's always easy for me to become immersed in their world
@lro1815
@lro1815 Жыл бұрын
Some of the best history content on KZfaq. You are keeping the past alive, keep up the fantastic work.
@TheKipchak
@TheKipchak 20 күн бұрын
This man was an incredibly talented writer. This reads more like a novel than an historical account.
@GreatestCornholio
@GreatestCornholio Жыл бұрын
I had to look at that thumbnail twice, the font made me think it was a Greek warrior in the civil war o0
@Jay-bf8yp
@Jay-bf8yp Жыл бұрын
Haha, that's exactly how I read it too at first
@spectreagent00
@spectreagent00 Жыл бұрын
This is Spartanburg!
@jebdunkins6796
@jebdunkins6796 Жыл бұрын
Not gonna lie thought the thumbnail said A Greek Warrior at first and was very confused for the first two minutes of the video
@flyingorange4493
@flyingorange4493 Жыл бұрын
"Wdym we have to buy cotton from the Ottomans?" -Greece, probably
@hairyjohnson2597
@hairyjohnson2597 Жыл бұрын
This page and Toldinstone, have to be the best two channels on KZfaq. Thank ya for your hard work and awesome content!
@GunterThePenguinHatesHugs
@GunterThePenguinHatesHugs Жыл бұрын
I appreciate how back then people would also take daft picture of themselves too. -They probably had to stand there for a little while though for the picture to be taken, which really shows their commitment to the bit _🙏_
@lilith4961
@lilith4961 Жыл бұрын
Its always makes History so real to hear what the people were thinking
@HistoryBoy
@HistoryBoy Жыл бұрын
I am absolutely so excited to watch this video - I know how high quality all of your works are.
@mrcat5992
@mrcat5992 Жыл бұрын
I always look forward to this series, excellent stuff.
@StoicHistorian
@StoicHistorian Жыл бұрын
Always excited when I see you upload
@solitaire365
@solitaire365 Жыл бұрын
One of my favourite channels. Thank you for all that you do.
@sparkymularkey6970
@sparkymularkey6970 Жыл бұрын
It's great to get these sorts of perspectives. Thank you so much for uploading this!
@Alexander1005
@Alexander1005 Жыл бұрын
Always happy to see a new video from you.
@JohnMarston165
@JohnMarston165 Жыл бұрын
This is awesome! I'm part Creek and the native perspective of the American Civil War is usually looked over. Keep up the good work!
@AAbvli
@AAbvli Жыл бұрын
U needa post more my guy🫡💯
@williamneese6702
@williamneese6702 Жыл бұрын
Awesome content, thanks for all of these first hand perspectives
@Dontdoit_
@Dontdoit_ Жыл бұрын
I’m so glad you’re still making videos. So many history channels that’s haven’t uploaded in over a year
@devinpowers4132
@devinpowers4132 Жыл бұрын
As always, an amazing a unique sliver of history. I learn so much from these videos.
@anasevi9456
@anasevi9456 Жыл бұрын
thanks for retelling another wonderful account.
@Dionaea_floridensis
@Dionaea_floridensis Жыл бұрын
Love your content as always!
@ingridsommer2232
@ingridsommer2232 Жыл бұрын
Supporting the algorithm! May this go viral
@STATERECALLMUSIC
@STATERECALLMUSIC 8 ай бұрын
This is such a great channel. Thank you for your inspiring hard work
@TheQuentinExperiment
@TheQuentinExperiment Жыл бұрын
Favorite channel by far.
@willlockler9433
@willlockler9433 Жыл бұрын
Always enlightening. Thank you.
@JustTooEasy98
@JustTooEasy98 Жыл бұрын
This is fascinating! I never really thought about the role of Native Americans in the Civil War. Hearing them fight for the Confederacy is intriguing, and while the first-hand account is great, I really want to know what the larger political motivations were. Did they view themselves as part of the South? Did the Confederates view them as citizens? Or were they perhaps offered a better treaty than the Union government gave them? Did they own slaves? I'll have to do some more reading into it.
@vorynrosethorn903
@vorynrosethorn903 Жыл бұрын
A good few Indians owned slaves and most of the rest had no shortage of bones to pick with the federal government.
@Crekification
@Crekification Жыл бұрын
They owned a good amount of slaves, and the South just like the Dems of today probably promised them the world when really just using them
@glane3962
@glane3962 Жыл бұрын
Yes they had slaves and the Union has to March into Oklahoma to free them. Something you won’t find in history books mainstream.
@Nomadith
@Nomadith Жыл бұрын
To be incredibly reductive - some owned slaves, some thought the confederacy would give them a better deal as allies or to be autonomous states, and some just really wanted revenge on the Federal Government. (Missed a lot but these three I remember being big points when I covered it in uni)
@natashatercera8536
@natashatercera8536 Жыл бұрын
The majority of English-speaking Christian Indians were from ‘the 5 civilized tribes;’ the Choctaw, Creek, Seminole, Cherokee, and Chickasaw. These were agricultural, populous societies that retained a larger population after white settlement. They were deported from their homeland in the southeast to Oklahoma by Jackson, despite being well-integrated into antebellum society.
@Spinosaur101
@Spinosaur101 Жыл бұрын
Oh shit, more absolutely gold content!
@maxkennedy8075
@maxkennedy8075 Жыл бұрын
Always a top end post when its voices of the path
@Vee_of_the_Weald
@Vee_of_the_Weald 2 ай бұрын
The artistic renderings are exquisite - they really depict the horrors of war on the men and their horses.
@user-fp8bm4ci3r
@user-fp8bm4ci3r Жыл бұрын
Just another supportive comment. Very happy KZfaq recommended this to me. Your channel is a lucky find. Thanks for the work in the detail. Very entertaining. 🤙🏼🙏🏼
@serenataylor5603
@serenataylor5603 Жыл бұрын
Yass so happy to find another channel of this story telling voice
@willga731
@willga731 Жыл бұрын
This channel makes 💯 great content
@ryhol5417
@ryhol5417 Жыл бұрын
Love this stuff! Thanks
@paulapridy6804
@paulapridy6804 8 ай бұрын
I am so very appreciative of your content offering. Voices of the past is what was missing in my public education that made me thirsty for what history is really made of of. Thank you so much😎
@eagleman1542
@eagleman1542 Жыл бұрын
I'm from northeastern Oklahoma and have visited most of the battle sites mentioned on multiple occasions; the skirmishes in what was then Indian Territory were frequent and bloody affairs.
@codybailey855
@codybailey855 Жыл бұрын
Another great video! Thank you!
@thelocomotive77
@thelocomotive77 Жыл бұрын
"Endeavour to persevere! And when we had thought about it long enough, we declared war on the Union" - Lone Watie
@asdpl
@asdpl Жыл бұрын
Good stuff. Keep it coming
@Patrick-tb6cn
@Patrick-tb6cn Жыл бұрын
Very cool. Thanks for uploading.
@kathleenomalley7838
@kathleenomalley7838 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this compelling account
@WanderingWarrior4
@WanderingWarrior4 Жыл бұрын
Glad to see this thanks for the story keep up the good content
@BillyAsWell
@BillyAsWell 8 ай бұрын
Great content, as always.
@sethbecker8478
@sethbecker8478 Жыл бұрын
Best KZfaq channel ever
@VoicesofthePast
@VoicesofthePast Жыл бұрын
Thanks Seth!
@zjwmusic1936
@zjwmusic1936 Жыл бұрын
excellent choice of source material
@stopscammingman
@stopscammingman Жыл бұрын
More than top notch content once again.
@fowchiiiliedpuppiesdied
@fowchiiiliedpuppiesdied Жыл бұрын
This is a wonderful channel, and so revealing. All the suffering throughout history, and yet, we never seem to learn. All of these historical documents to remind us, and yet we don’t read them, in schools. It would be easy to fix. But there aren’t enough people, who comprehend this, sadly, for the human species to evolve past the need for war.
@hensonlaura
@hensonlaura Жыл бұрын
We learn A LOT. We're not naked cannibals fighting with spears & mocking the doomed victims, but have 2,000+ years of civilization behind us and as a group, constantly improve through the ages. Disturbing to me is the recent fashion of discarding hard won cultural & social knowledge. Many 1st worlders aren't well enough educated at home to appreciate their journey & protect the values that brought us here, 3rd worlders want what we have in goods, but likewise couldn't care less about the reasons we achieved what we did. Self gratification alone will never achieve anything positive for humanity and there'sthe impetus for war: Greed. We think a lot alike I suppose 😊
@FacesintheStone
@FacesintheStone Жыл бұрын
Jeez, I really liked this one. A pinhole to the history of the beautiful land we now occupy.
@LibertyPrime6969
@LibertyPrime6969 Жыл бұрын
Please do more ❤
@audreylove626
@audreylove626 Жыл бұрын
I love this channel.
@letsgets77
@letsgets77 Жыл бұрын
There's something about this people's perspective take on history that I enjoy very much.
@mailio4536
@mailio4536 Жыл бұрын
Should do the Camarão Indians' letters someday, recently there came a new translation. It's the only piece of written old tupi, and about the Dutch - Brazillian colonial conflict from tupi perspective
@alecfullmer2026
@alecfullmer2026 Жыл бұрын
Love these videos
@DontTreadOnMyLiberty
@DontTreadOnMyLiberty 8 ай бұрын
Love these
@matthewmoua8494
@matthewmoua8494 Жыл бұрын
Excellent narration.
@ajones5683
@ajones5683 Жыл бұрын
Well done ❤
@Allinonetvz
@Allinonetvz 7 ай бұрын
Thank you for having a rich taste in music, the song in the beginning is beautiful. For anyone searching it’s blood in the bayou by river lume and spearfish.
@poontingus
@poontingus Жыл бұрын
Love these videos. I feel like a time traveler listening to them🤯
@stopscammingman
@stopscammingman Жыл бұрын
This was amazing
@patron8597
@patron8597 Жыл бұрын
Something I never even knew I needed.
@haroldoldhair8185
@haroldoldhair8185 Жыл бұрын
Love this
@mrpotatochu6611
@mrpotatochu6611 Жыл бұрын
Awesome as always! Will you do any serbian or south slavic sources?
@jonathanbarnes3061
@jonathanbarnes3061 Жыл бұрын
Took ten days to find this memoir what a time capsule.
@ease.78
@ease.78 5 ай бұрын
Already one of my favorite accounts and I found it yesterday
@JesusIzAPunkRocker
@JesusIzAPunkRocker 9 ай бұрын
Great premise for a channel
@MatthewChenault
@MatthewChenault Жыл бұрын
It’s worth noting that most of the photographs and prints seen here are from the eastern theater; mainly in and around Virginia. For instance, the photograph at 10:30 is a photograph taken in Fredericksburg, Virginia sometime between 1862 and 1863. It’s a rare example of a photograph taken by a confederate photography team as the south had very few photography teams. Many of the others were taken either within the Army of the Potomac or the Army of the James between 1862 and 1865.
@johndaugherty4127
@johndaugherty4127 Жыл бұрын
What a great story!
@fishyy5622
@fishyy5622 Жыл бұрын
Good work!
@massivedamagegaming9004
@massivedamagegaming9004 Жыл бұрын
I was literally thinking about this.
@markmcdonald6039
@markmcdonald6039 Жыл бұрын
Another great video, I don’t know where you source these accounts but they are fantastic! P.S. I hope your cat is doing well!
@AngloAus
@AngloAus Жыл бұрын
Love this account
@leoscheibelhut940
@leoscheibelhut940 Жыл бұрын
Extremely interesting!
@____kd
@____kd 9 ай бұрын
I like that you put Dixie in the background!
@EyeOfKings
@EyeOfKings Жыл бұрын
Now this is something I have never thought about, interesting.
@JMRolf1
@JMRolf1 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting perspective
@adaywithsmator
@adaywithsmator Жыл бұрын
Very interesting video.
@Dotwork18
@Dotwork18 Жыл бұрын
I wish that guy with the cool hat knew people were still hearing about it lol.
@enrixosjjdjd187
@enrixosjjdjd187 Жыл бұрын
Your channel is amazing. I would support a patreon if you ever made one
@thomas-marx
@thomas-marx Жыл бұрын
Excellent
@b.griffin317
@b.griffin317 7 ай бұрын
I love the eloquent and elliptic Victorian prose.
@breadman32398
@breadman32398 Жыл бұрын
Change some of the details and wording and I'd believe this could be a modern war diary. I find history most engaging when it's personal accounts like this, every history class should open with a personal account about an event before giving the boring stats and big events.
@logang7778
@logang7778 Жыл бұрын
I recognize that acoustic music at the end can you advise what it is? It's driving me nuts! Great video as always.
@tannerbananer5774
@tannerbananer5774 Ай бұрын
17:45 is the absolute most badass thing that I've ever heard.
@norikootsuki4661
@norikootsuki4661 Жыл бұрын
As a complete outsider, it was fascinating to hear this story of the Civil War in the native people who displaced to Oklahoma during Andrew Jackson’s time and its Trail of Tears. It’s interesting to hear that many of the Creek and Choctaw people had both Indian and Christian names. Many these young men still retained their warrior spirit and fought not so much for the Confederacy as for the idea that they were protecting their homeland and way of life. As mentioned in one of the comments below, some Indian tribes and groups joined the Union forces to fight for the north. It was definitely a very confusing time as far as loyalty goes. Many of the Indian groups had mixed ethnicities due to the fact that they welcomed escaped slaves and other outsiders into their societies. We should remember that this was less than sixty years after the Louisiana Purchase from France in 1803. For almost 200 years before the Civil War, Frenchmen intermarried with various Native American tribes. In many tribes, French was spoken by at least a few people for trade purposes and was more widely spoken than English.
@ryo.4200
@ryo.4200 Жыл бұрын
W videos. I love history
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