Hi Volkin! In the replay section you can tell if you are on defense or offence by the Icon on the profile picture. Its either a sword or a shield. Sword = offence, Shield = Defense.

21:22 There is an obnoxious amount of Vala teams in my server. To counter them, I use the typical CC team with Eironn, Arden and Damian, but with Hewyn replacing Thoran and Silvina replacing Carolina. Silvina is perfect for countering Rowan to because of factional advantage.

The vala rowan teams are the main ones i target actually. Using reinier you swap odie with rowan so the enemy team doesnt get his buffs and then gets obliterated by the odie in their backline. Its even better if you can give odie thorans link. Countering vala is pretty easy by letting her target igor, he will just jump between tombstones instead of dying. The only times this failed for me was if they used flora, or odie gets clipped by thorans ult. The team normally consists of thoran, odie, reinier, igor and a dps (cecia for me) If they dont use vala you can run rowan instead of igor, then the enemy backline gets decimated even faster. Pls correct me if i missed something :)

I would have liked to see a few more defense teams for newer servers. My server for example doesn't even have season yet and a lot of us don't have the Eironn team built/Vala built yet. I think what you did in the Best F2P Teams Early/Mid/Late game video was a really good format and a bit more of what I was expecting in this video.

Helpful vid. Thx!

When i volkin mentioned the vala/Lucius team i actually got goosebumps. Thats been my main team since launch😭 I hyperinvested all of them. I wouldnt say people looked down on the team, But rather underrated it.

I was experimenting a lot lately and come up with a team I like a lot in offence and defense. Thoran linked with Vala, Rowan, Silvina (targeting the same hero as Vala) and Temesia. Temesia works so well in eliminating the back row of the enemy.

One of the strats I have been using to fight the backline Lucius comp (and most double dps comps) has been running Reiner, Odie, Vala, Thoran, and a flex slot of Brutus or Rowan (for different situations) on offence. Instead of going with the attack speed relic to pull a carry to our side I use the control relic, switching Odie to the backline and pulling the tank (or a healer) to fight Reiner away from the team. Meanwhile, I have Vala linked to Thoran, allowing her massive damage to provide healing for Thoran + while granting her emergency defense in the off chance she gets clipped by an AoE attack when her exclusive equipment is up. With Rowan, Odie poisons the first enemy he teleports next to immediately and Vala can usually burst down the carry with autos + Odie's execute before the cc artifact's first usage is over, and proceed to snowball the whole fight with her EX Equipment. It also gets Odie out of the way of the stun from Eironn's ult (you just have to watch for roots from Cecia or Arden). Also with this strat you can usually set a Brutus in the backline to stall out an enemy Vala long enough so you are able to start the snowball first, but be warned Odie will not outspeed an enemy Odie to their poison without Rowan!

Good strat for Vala...avoid her. Lol 🤣 have a great day! Thanks for the content! ✌️

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love the strategic aspect of this game

Hola volkin muy buena la explicación gracias x tus consejos

I really regret having Cecia on the wishlist. Once I got her mythic plus I replaced her immediately. But I just have no luck pulling more Carolinas… Carolina is forever stuck at Mythic.

I like having igor absorb vala's attacks while I send my own vala after her. and/or silvina, depending. although other tanks can be used for that, igor just seems to be specialised for it.

consistently in champion for almost 1 month now at PTR10. For my defense team I just run Thoran, Smokey, Odie, Cecia and Igor. Use the same team for offense. All are at supreme+ as well. Gets the job done.

My F2P Team is Thorfan Front, Vala behind Thoran, Reinier behind Vala for double buff and on the sides of Reinier Cecia and Oddie. (My strongest team Supreme+ and 3 stars) PD: Good video, same as always.❣

Ggs game over

My favorite strat to beat Vala teams is to swap my odie next to her and then use confining spell. Odie taps her before first ult and then gets to wipe the rest of their backline. Reiner healing plus his damage usually keeps him alive long enough to win it. Only time I lose with that strat is the unlucky thoran ult wipe

Most Vala teams are easy to beat imo. Reinier+Odie teleporting a support or a tank(not Thoran) usually results in 3 insta-kills.

I normally counter any Vala I encounter with Silvina. Such an underrated hero, she jumps directly into her and kills her before the enemy vala can jump to my back lane, or do anything at all.

You can also just swap Vala with Reinier targeting Odie/Vala (and give Odie enlightening buff). Odie will kill the Vala before she has time to ult (if your Odie is +10)

Would love to see more in depth strats like this for non-eiron comps. Day 84 and only 2 copies of eiron😢

My best strat against Vala is to either use my own Vala or Silvina, and or Reinier teleport. All depends on their team for what I choose.

The real reason dealing with Vala defenses is frustrating, especially as a f2p, is that she plays well from a surplus. I'm a f2p in champion rank running the usual Eironn CC tempo team comp, and what I've noticed is that the vast majority of people at my elo have a 50-200k surplus on me, and the few people around me with similar team strength are running either the exact same team or something very similar, indicating that such teams overperform relative to their strength. Vala defense teams are the opposite, with her being included in many of the higher strength teams at a given elo, indicating that her teams perform worse than the average meta team. The one benefit to Vala defense is that in multi-dps setups you can position her in a way that hoses certain cheese strats such as Reinier swap, which combined with the fact that she plays well into a surplus, makes her a respectable choice if you think your Vala team is stronger than the pvp teams of other people on your server with similar account investment. However, if others on your server are equally strong or even able to force the mirror match with a slight deficit, the information that Vala provides the attacker puts her at a significant disadvantage.

In last battle, i would try to link odie to thoren and use rainer to switch him with lucius. With little luck he will poison both vala and cecia in backline before their ultimates

This is so interesting. My server is 100% different; we use different maps, different units, lots of celestials/hypogeans. How interesting

I'm really struggling with pushint through elite3 to challenger right now, because i made the mistake of having lika, Parisa and florabelle on my whishlist, instead of the meta pvp wilder team. because i followed a pve tierlsit without fully understanding the game. and now I basically have 1 extremely pontent Cecia + smokey team for PVE, and nothing for pvp specifically... and i am not sure if i should switch my whishlist now, and start investing in those wilders, or focus on vala instead, since she is mythic already.

Vala can be countered by this: Put brutus in the back so he's targetted by her Position reinier and odie in such a way that odie swaps NEXT to vala (not WITH her) Run confining spell to delay her ult Ideally, this wipes her out before she gets her first ult, but even if she does Odie can usually finish her while she's hitting brutus' shield. It's not guaranteed to work on every defense formation, since you can't always swap next to her, but it's made vala teams mostly irrelevant in my experience. I'm top 20 in my server, usually using an offense team of thoran s+, shakir s+, odie s+, reinier m+, and either brutus legendary or koko s+ depending if they have a vala or not. If I can't reinier swap (arena 3) I use damian m+. I can consistently beat everything except scarlita comps and a few paragon eironn comps. Mauler reinier comps are extremely good on offense.

Brutus is great to counter Vala. And the best team imo is the Reinier one. Just send Oddie to the enemy side and hi'll make her dissapear before she can do anything

Strange, i use the Eironn comp as well, and i have 0 issues farming Vala/Cecia enjoyers like crazy. The teams i struggle against are usually those that have an invested Scarlita.

For Eironn against Vala teams, I usually link Thoran with Carolina, that way Carolina can soak more damage and stay on the field longer, and have Eironn tank Vala, he'll most of the time survive when Damien heals and once Vala goes to my side of the field, she just gets AOE'd by Carolina and Arden. I did the same mistake with linking Eironn and Thoran and found my Carolina dying quicker causing me to deal less overall damage and lose.

Do you have any suggestions for Supreme Arena teams?

I use thoran, damian, reinier, igor and cecia, otherwise i use against eiron comps thoran, damian, reinier, odie and shakir, if they vala i can swap shakir for igor but i have problems against eiron and scarlita comps

you can teleport Vala over with reinir and then kill her with odie, with that comp you have shown

When you’re at s+ on a character do you still pull it before you unlock paragon or can you leave that one there to focus who you’re trying to pull? (I’m pretty sure I already know the answer but as a f2p player I need someone to go ahead and confirm that my dreams are crushed 😂)

What I’m confused about is how people have epic units at 37k attack without having ascended them

I have Arden linked to Thoran and Vala cannot kill him when he’s targeted. I dunno why but he survives it. Don’t use Eironn as the target.

My igor is m+, i usually put igor on her mark and she chases him around all match and does nothing 😅

The only downside in arena is they don't remove banned players, there's like 5 strong ghosts in the top 20 of my server. Edit: oh and players farming you for 6+ a day is so bullsht

My vala is s+ with ex +10 and i usually still lose on a 1v1 battle with vala

People sleeping on Parissa. Got her to s+ and she has really good aoe dmg.

my vala/silvina counter is my boy brutus

what server are you on

igor to tank vala reiner to swap shakir for rowan/cecia igor jumps into vala so vala jumps away from him into my odie odie ults the swapped enemy and vala ez gg

since I started using Igor, Vala is just not a unit. That Odie Reiner Smokey Thoran comp, slap a Igor vs Vala and call it a day, works everytime as long as Igor is L+ or higher

I run an Eironn nuke team but replaced Carolina with Florabelle. I’m blessed with a Supreme Flora but cursed to have Carolina Mythic.

me who has a supreme+ silvina and vala:

How different are Champion Battles vs normal arena? im currently sitting on Rank 1 normal arena server 1, waiting to be promoted. My team is Alsa Eiron Arden Lyca Reinier in offense and defense and people are losing to that pretty often

kinda worry about the future of the game... every week, there r 1-2 poeple in the guild quit the game...

my server hass whales i rank like 170 in dream realm

Just get your eiron team stronger, your arden is too low. I use the same team with more power and even 5 star valas arent problem

This video came so late cos I've lost interest in Arena

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