Nailed it.

Bullsht. Dont behave childish. Was that same plan with mobile phones of flat TV? Nope, not any more. Everybody has them. You can buy 4K TV for affordable price. Problem is price of batteries. In near future EVs will be cheaper than ICE cars. Stop moaning. 🤷‍♂️🙈

Work harder.

@@pauladams5673 Shut it you rich-cosplaying peasants.

@@FullFact548 And very happy to be in this deniers club😊

@@FullFact548 because they are just another corrupt organisation

@@FullFact548 the climate's always changing, has done for 4.5 billion years. It's time you learnt that we have to adapt to a changing planet, not adapt the planet to suit us.

@@FullFact548 It's a 2500 kilos EV lugging such amount of weight it was never green and it will never be I wouldn't be surprised if 30 children died mining this you need to use logic , plus 80kwh just to go 170 miles 🤨🥴

Whether it’s very hot or very cold, using the a/c or heater is going to lower your range. By how much is disputable but it must be at least 10% on average.

Their's 2 electric heater units on a buzz, 1 for battery and 1 for cabin heating, between them they are nearly 20kw !,so yes they will make a difference to range .

I am thinking the same. I think the original prototype was going to have both a hybrid or full electric option.

Moron

Imagine an E Dub Fest....hahahaaaa

Brilliant thinking, if you get the timing right, your kids could deliver you to the funeral home in the back

@@grahambedford5953 Great idea. Even more reason to buy one. Would save the Co-op Undertakers fees. Lots of space for the flowers too. I wonder if Geoff knows a good signwriter to personalise it.

@@Jonny_The_Organism oh god, like comparing hairdryers 🤣🤣

mmmm falcon wagon

@@GeoffBuysCars😂😅

Crazy isn’t it, the weights!

@@GeoffBuysCars Driving the mother in law back from Stansted via some lovely Essex back road countryside yesterday. Wife saying 'great scenery', but I was concentrating on avoiding potholes! I am thinking these heavy EVs with huge wheels and low profile tyres will not tolerate those holes very well. These things are only the future for the WEF masters and mass debaters

7.5 tonnes, so you are just in, provided you leave the mother in law at home.

That is a brilliant comment.

Your rightno sensible land owner is going to want to go through that

funny you should state that last month I went to Statfold Barn Railway near Tamworth and they parked everyone on a field. On said day the heavens open all day and the field car park soon turned into mush and many cars were being towed out by one modernish diesel tractor and two classic Ford tractors. The people on car park attendant duty did actually ask if I had a EV as they were rescuing more EV's than internal combustion cars, as the weight of them had caused them to sink and the motors couldn't exactly pull themselves from the mud. My little petrol hatchback escaped with no assistance at all and I thought it would get stuck due to its low profile tyres.

Imagine it was £10k - would you buy one with its around 100 mile real world range? - even at 1/6th of the price I wouldn't...

A classic VW bus is actually cheaper than the iD Buzzlightyear. I would buy a classic any day over this as long as it still has its original engine and not a EV conversion.

@@bentullett6068 But is it ULEZ :(

@@DigiDriftZone yes apparently the cameras can't pick up the old school black and silver number plates.

Pay per mile is on the way no road tax

We're not going to be driving anyway so not really a problem. The roads aren't built to take the weight of EVs and there's no way the elites will improve them unless there's a money laundering opportunity in it 💷💷💷💷💷

@@FullFact548 capitalism failed, but they don’t want us to know that yet. Capitalism needs constant growth and new entrants to the system - falling populations can’t sustain capitalism indefinitely

@@GeoffBuysCars Nice to hear someone say it - capitalism has completely failed. It's now a society where the rich just milk the poor to keep up the illusion that it's still working. We're in an extreme phase of capitalism where profit and growth are more important than anything else, and where war, famine and children mining minerals for Mr Rich Western Man to smugly drive around in his £70k EV are deemed acceptable. Hypocracy beyond belief.

Spot on. Berlingo a better choice.

Wow… terrifying

"There's a hell of a lot of Surf beaches here in Australia. Haven't seen one charging point at any of them" Long may it stay that way!

The elephant in the room is you can buy a classic VW camper or bus for the same price as this restored just as long as no one has EV converted one as classic EV conversions are ridiculous prices. I saw one of the EV converted classic Mini's at £60,000 whereas a fully restored classic Mini was around the £9,000-£20,000 mark

Exactly.

@@GeoffBuysCars Make your own Surfin' bus, much more interesting and a personal project, plus great content. 👍

Or hybrid set up.

Oh thank you! What car shall I do? I fancy the little VW eUP

He'll sell it in a few months when he realises it's unusable :)

@@FullFact548 That's another problem with the electric tailgates. When you put quite a bit in the boot you never know if it really closes or because it slightly touches something in the trunk just opens up again. So you better wait until it's really closed...

@@FullFact548 but you still need a free hand to press a button …..

But the Mitsubishi Delica is better...

A 35 year old vw will always be better than some hideous jap monstrosity!

ha! good one! some people will probably try.

Until they go wrong and make a big hole in your bank account!

@@johndrake3731 Warranty?

Hmmm where’s those stats from…? That’s interesting that is

@@GeoffBuysCars just ask Google

@@GeoffBuysCars how many Motabillity cars in UK. Anyone anytime can have anything delivered door to door

Yeah the Felicia Pick Up called the 'Fun!'

It's potentially worse than that on a motorway trip because if you assume about 20 miles between services and one services is out of action, then you need to be able to get to the next one. So that's 40 miles range that I'd want to reserve. Then on top of that, you'd only charge it to 80% unless you want to sit around at the tail end of the charge curve for a couple of hours. So typically on motorway runs where several charges are required, it could be max 80 to ft 100 miles or so between charges unless you're brave or trusting in infrastructure. Efficiency of around 2.6 to 2.7 miles per kWh, not good.

@@djtaylorutube The point here is though that most people who will buy these cars will already have at least another car, more likely three or four other cars. Therefore they will be used for a specific purpose such as local commutes or shuttle journeys. Most people do less than 50 miles per day which is well within the range. Most people who buy these will have a car for long distance like a Golf, E class or Audi avant too. That is why these cars will sell v well.

@@Blackmamba12345 I don't disagree with that except that it's a vehicle designed to go somewhere with for a break. At least, that's what it seems like to me. It's not a fun experience when that involves charging hassle when trying to drive further than a couple of hundred miles.

No it wouldn't

Ah, someone tried: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/icCeqqVl0du5dWg.html -- he got 158 miles running it all the way to 0. So let's say it's 3 years old and lost 15% of range and you don't want to run it to 0% (10-90%) - yep, around 100 miles range (but again unless you love living in range anxiety land, subtract 30-40 miles from that!).

​​​​@@DigiDriftZone now try it in the winter, EV database says 145 miles on a motorway. Without the 15 miles left in reserve for that broken rapid charger, you now have a true cold weather range on the motorway of 130 miles to avoid being stranded.

@@stevezodiac491 That's right, before you factor in the battery degradation. The 130 miles is the best you'll ever get on a brand new car, you can quickly shave 15% off that and you're down to 110.

​@@DigiDriftZone Why would it lose 15% of capacity in 3 years?

@@Richard482 that’s the average battery degradation in the first 3 years, after that it tapers off and the annual battery capacity loses become lower but at 8-10 years there is usually something like 20-25% less capacity than you started with.

3 stops of around 1.5 to 2 hours each :) - those stops will cost you 1.8x the price of diesel as motorway chargers are INSANELY expensive (excluding snacks!). It's ironic isn't it that you'll spend more time charging than you do driving in your diesel. You also don't want to go over 70mph or that could mean a 4th charging stop!

Used to do Birmingham to Falmouth a LOT, best car was the Mondeo 2.2 TDCi but the one I did it mos tin was the Peugeot 306 1.9 DTurbo. Good times. Wee stop at Exeter, but that was it!

Have you got any stats on that? I’d like to put this one to bed, one way or the other

​@@GeoffBuysCars It's difficult to get accurate figures. The oil industry doesn't want to reveal it's trade secrets.

if it's very cheap!

It would be...want the car to go to a good home and live on,too good to scrap,or allow it to die...Still plenty of life in the ol' fella yet..its been a tough decision to let go tbf...

I did Porthleven to Worcester yesterday without a stop, plus I don’t think it would make that distance. I need to get a longer test drive,

@@GeoffBuysCars fair. Maybe I'm just a lightweight 😂