Volkswagen Mk4 NO CRANK diagnostic

Volkswagen Mk4 NO CRANK diagnostic - Golf, Jetta, Beetle

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Thanks for tuning in to Auto Scholar with Mr. B! I made this video for complete, step by step diagnostics for a no crank condition. If your car engine does not turn over when you turn the key THIS IS THE VIDEO THAT WILL FIX IT. This should work for no crank/no start conditions for GOLF, JETTA, BEETLE, GTI, GLI and maybe a few others, and should cover most powertrains. I Please be sure to check the wiring diagram indicated for your vehicle as the wire colors sometimes change.
Things you must have: Good battery appropriate for the car and a good starter. If you have these things and you check everything in this video, your car should be fixed. Included is wiring diagram research, relay position, connector views, and a few tips and tricks I have learned working on these cars for so long. This also covers manual and automatic transmission.
If you have any questions please feel free to add them in the comments. I try to answer all of my viewers questions.
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@jamesashleyinmanjr.1390 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks a million!! Way more informative than any other post I found. I searched a BUNCH. THANKS AGAIN..

@AutoScholarwithMrB 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@aldrinafrica835 Жыл бұрын

You are the best Vdubb tutor out there bro..just bought maself an mk4 golf,it has starting issues because the battery terminals were mixed by my sister but i Bought the whole harnese,ecu,clock and hella black bock,and yourf lecture is going too help me know exactly what was the problem with my car😁.it is not cranking at all right now but your video gives me the confidence to tackle this as a hobby challenge..hope il manage,,thanx a million fold for this,,,you are a true Folkswagen Jedi!..May the Force Be With You!

@AutoScholarwithMrB Жыл бұрын

Thanks so much Aldrin! Good luck with your repairs.

@brianmcmanus57 3 жыл бұрын

Awesome Video! I work as a diesel transport mechanic and I followed every bit of what you had to share. You for sure have a new subscriber. Cheers 👍

@AutoScholarwithMrB 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks a bunch for watching and the subscribe!

@eliprice1537 2 жыл бұрын

Appreciate your help. Thats how it’s done. I’m now Smarter, without meeting ur dog, family, or shown what an End Wrench looks like. Well Done. Thank You.

@AutoScholarwithMrB 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching Eli! Although I do have four dogs and they are wonderful, ha ha.

@eliprice1537 2 жыл бұрын

Mr. B. I’m looking for help on electrically operated vacuum solenoids. 2002 VW Jetta 1.9 TDI Voltages, resistance range to each one. Testing anywhere from 4 - 12vlts. Haven’t been able to find definitive answers. Appreciate all your help. Take care. You and those 4 dogs. Haha. Thanks. E

@hollyharris7866 Жыл бұрын

Oh my! You are my hero so glad I finally came across your video!

@AutoScholarwithMrB Жыл бұрын

Glad I could help Holly, thanks for watching!

@yvesbouchard3519 Жыл бұрын

That is the most helpfull video out there With the wiring diagram and components location

@AutoScholarwithMrB Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching yves!

@Mk4twoG 2 жыл бұрын

Very useful video thank you

@sbitechn 2 жыл бұрын

I'm stuck and I'm not sure what I'm gonna do and yo video is all I have in the bush! Thanks man it makes a lot of sense apart from fact that I can do none but it gives me hope in a place with no mechanic like mine 😂💪

@AutoScholarwithMrB 2 жыл бұрын

Good luck with your repair!

@MightyNib 2 ай бұрын

Mr B this is awesome! Thank you for this so much.

@AutoScholarwithMrB 2 ай бұрын

Glad to help!

@evanbruce1535 8 ай бұрын

Great video, I'm chasing a no crank now so gave me a few ideas

@joannasalvatori7862 11 ай бұрын

Excellent advice.

@Tiger-cr7kh 2 ай бұрын

Excellent instructional video. Thank you very much.

@AutoScholarwithMrB 2 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching my friend!

@joshuaward692 Жыл бұрын

If you have a manual with cruise control. Check the cruise control clutch position switch! It is the bottom, blue switch on the pedal. Kept mine from cranking.

@Rockony Жыл бұрын

I will check that , new starter new coils and spark plugs new battery, no start no crank situation just a click sound coming from the starter

@vari7026 6 ай бұрын

@@Rockonywhat was real problem , did you solve

@masonpugh3637 Ай бұрын

Very informative video

@AutoScholarwithMrB Ай бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@fresnotwinkie 2 жыл бұрын

Hello Mr B, Great video! Very informative. I wanted to ask: how do I about actually testing the (nine pin) 175 relay to verify if it’s functioning correctly , how would I go about doing so with a voltage meter? Do I put power to pins 2 and 6, ground to pins 7 and 1 and test pin 8? My apologies for not understanding how I am to actually test the relay. Obviously I am no electrician. I look forward to your response.

@anthonykupchunos4282 7 ай бұрын

Really enjoyed this. I have a 6speed manual.i Can start starter with direct wire from bat to starter. But nothing from the key in start position ,except displays battery voltage ok in/ on a meter. But nothing when I hook up igniter back into alternator.

@josephcouturier752 7 ай бұрын

Excellent

@chrisking7539 2 жыл бұрын

Mr B I'm trying to convert my 05 golf gti bora to automatic I have a transmission, tcm ,and bump stick shifter out of a 03 jetta gti my ecm already controls absand all so I'm trying to build a wireing harness but not sure what all has to be there for trany to work and I'm having trouble getting wireing diagraam for tcm,trany,and shifter

@RicardoJacquez 3 жыл бұрын

I've got an 04' GLI automatic. Crank no start condition. No CEL on diagnostics. Replaced crankshaft sensor and fuel pump relay. Jumped fuel pump to direct power and it works. 428 relay had high resistance and is engaged even without the key in. Manually actuated relay with 12V source. Vehicle was running and driving 2 hours prior. I'm at a loss.

@samakkhiwittayakhom 2 ай бұрын

Thank you very much. My car problem Relay 175 not start for Seat toledo 1m2 same same vw Golf mk4.

@johnspitzer1293 Жыл бұрын

Great video, but a lot is over my head - on the electrical part. My son has a 2006 Jetta Gas Automatic that periodically will not start. We have a new battery, new OEM starter, Alternator with a new regulator and brushes, a new ignition relay (the on on the steering column). When it does not start, we do hear a click, that I am assuming is the starter solenoid engaging, but the starter will not crank. So from what I can gather it is an electrical (e.g. voltage) problem to the starter. You kind of addressed this early in the video, but how can I test to determine what to replace (I anticipate it is a bad wire). For example, if I use a volt meter and go from positive to negative on the battery it is OK to do that, but if I touch a positive to the frame that is grounded, is that OK or will that short the car? Any simple to explain tests would be fantastic. I have a meter, tools, etc. but I am really green when it comes to electrical. Thank you so much.

@LeeHartley 3 жыл бұрын

Nice

@LilGbaby-907 Жыл бұрын

Hey your video helped me but I have push button with no crank on my Jetta 1.8t got a good battery and good starter just no crank

@TL.... Жыл бұрын

my 2001 jetta 2.0 sat since december 2021 i put a brand new battery in today, correct battery specs etc dash lights up, headlights, subwoofer pounds, radio works viper alarm remote works to arm and disarm , just in case if it was stuck in valet mode or whatever no clicking sound when turning the key, nothing , the dash dims a bit and the headlights go out when i turn the ignition key and try to start as normal so its attemping to grab juice from the battery is the starter dead from sitting ? something else ? thanks in advance - its a 2001 jetta gls, 2.0 AZG engine , automatic transmission

@Wazmer07 Жыл бұрын

03 Jetta TDI Manual Everything works electrical except no crank. I wired a push button from battery to starter solenoid and it will crank, but no power to injection pump. I removed that but can’t seem to get power to the clutch pedal position switch. Checked all fuses, swapped relays , and new ignition switch. Any ideas?

@Shahidhussain30 2 жыл бұрын

Excellent Video. Is wiring the same for TDI manualI? Which relay is fir starter and which for pedal switch?

@AutoScholarwithMrB 2 жыл бұрын

I’m pretty sure the wiring is similar

@charlesmoore8031 Жыл бұрын

Good Morning all, On a 2007 VW 2.5 where is the clutch switch located

@heilmyidris3658 9 ай бұрын

Hi mr.B, i'm puzzled with my customer vw scirocco 2012 no crank ,no start issue . It uses start/stop button (keyless) . 1st push all accessory powered up ,depress brake and 2nd push it wont crank ,the whole system shutdown as if u r switching off the car.checked the relay , wire continuity from relay housing to starter solenoid OK, RELAY 507 tested-Ok, for a time being we just jump the solenoid red wire of the solenoid starter to start up the car. Fyi,we've scan the car and only p1734 & U0103 trouble code . Any idea on this issue?thx

@patpat5135 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for this instructive video. I have a 2011 automatic jetta. Where can i find the wiring diagrams ? Thanks in advance

@AutoScholarwithMrB Жыл бұрын

I use shopkey for all of my diagrams.

@todaysbestcashflows6882 Жыл бұрын

Awesome can you do a crank no start video?

@bushrodschmouw Жыл бұрын

My 05 Jetta 2.0. Turn key to run and no crank or click. But there is a clicking coming from the floor shifter. The press brake light next to the P on the shifter flashes along with all dash lights.

@SoDakFab 25 күн бұрын

I know that is video is pretty old, but I have a question. The 2 red wired on the ignition. You mentioned that you could run a jumper wire and make the starter crank. We'll I took a test light to both of the big red wires and they both have power. Is that supposed to be like that?

@MrSilvernblackblood Жыл бұрын

Whats the transmission range switch look like and where exactly is it located on a 2000 Jetta 1.8? Thanks.

@AutoScholarwithMrB Жыл бұрын

If you see the shifter cable, it is mounted under it. It’s about the size of a deck of cards and is wedge shaped if I recall correctly. Hope this helps and thanks for watching!

@satinderkumar1664 3 жыл бұрын

hi i have jetta 2019 sumtyms wipers starts running by themself even when they are off . any idea what's causing this prblm??

@AutoScholarwithMrB 3 жыл бұрын

Sounds to me like it may be a switch issue, but I am not sure. Hard to say without seeing what is going on.

@a914freak 3 жыл бұрын

My 2002 jetta started doing something similar, except if you held the key in the start position for 10 or 15 seconds it would crank over and start and it would be fine for the rest of the day. But if the car sits for more then an hour it goes back to me having to hold the key over in the start position before it cranks....Weird!

@AutoScholarwithMrB 3 жыл бұрын

I would peel back the steering column clam shell and see if any wires or connections look suspect. Thanks for watching Kyle!

@javidgunraj1500 4 ай бұрын

I lost that clip for the starter wire plug that goes to relay. Where may I get another?

@AutoScholarwithMrB 4 ай бұрын

At this point, a salvage yard would be your best bet

@rvatto7144 7 ай бұрын

How much volts should i be getting from wire thats coming from the relay to the solenoid pls

@AutoScholarwithMrB 7 ай бұрын

Should be battery voltage, maybe slightly less.

@JonALewis 2 жыл бұрын

Right after replacing the wiper motor switch, I now have a no crank situation on a 2000 VW Golf, manual transmission. I got the rear wiper to work and then buttoned it up only to have the car refuse to crank. I've narrowed it down to no voltage getting to the starter solenoid. When I bypass, putting voltage directly to the starter solenoid, the engine cranks just fine. I show no continuity between the starter solenoid wire at the solenoid and the relay PIN 87 with key turned on or off.. So while I do get 12 volts when I turn the key at terminal 30 it's apparently it's not getting where it needs to go to the solenoid. I also tried sending voltage down the terminal at 87 and still nothing which makes sense if there's no continuity there. Unless there's some other circuit anti-theft or the like which would confound these tests? Or maybe it's just old wiring or chewed through broken somewhere? Is the fix to find a place through the firewall to run a new wire?

@sam9472 11 ай бұрын

Did you ever figure this out? Thanks

@JonALewis 11 ай бұрын

@@sam9472 yeah, turned out to be an aftermarket anti-theft device killing signal between the key to ignition and starter solenoid.

@sam9472 11 ай бұрын

@@JonALewis gotta love it. Thank you for the reply

@vicecoldyt9763 Жыл бұрын

I’m having a problem somewhere along these lines 😢my 99 Jetta is no start no crank and starter is good because I can jump the starter to start the car but turning the key no start

@Totalitet 20 күн бұрын

i disconnect and reconnected battery and it works fine? What could it be?

@dexteradolphe6319 3 жыл бұрын

hey man ive got a mk4 golf it wont crank at all ive replaced the starter and solenoid and bench tested them and replaced the cables and both clutch switches are hardwired and the solenoid gets 12 when they key turns ive also checked the starter relay and it works fine any ideas?

@AutoScholarwithMrB 3 жыл бұрын

Check the resistance to the starter case to ground. I’ve seen the engines/transmissions lose ground and it cause a ton of issues. Resistance should be near zero ohms.

@jakobquinton-sauer3427 3 жыл бұрын

Did u ever get it going?

@jakobquinton-sauer3427 3 жыл бұрын

I have the same problem

@jasonramirez2751 2 жыл бұрын

did you ever find the issue?

@davelockhart3372 2 жыл бұрын

@@AutoScholarwithMrB , can u tell me how to check resistance of starter case. I have good digital multi-meter. I get a little puff of electric smoke at starter solenoid, and ground. Can immobolizer do that? This video was great and useful. Thank you!

@MrJgonzalez2 9 ай бұрын

Did he say "Lower resistance in wires?" That's a new one to me.

@ADDvanced 2 жыл бұрын

Where is this 13 relay box???

@AutoScholarwithMrB 2 жыл бұрын

Under the left side of the dash

@octymocty132 3 жыл бұрын

Ha whatt about this Car starts from cold but if stalled or immediately shut off it struggles to start like no petrol

@AutoScholarwithMrB 3 жыл бұрын

Do you have any diagnostic trouble codes stored? Checking that would be the first think I would do. Also these have fuel pumps that can partially fail and cause issues like this.

@gavinvoss2877 2 жыл бұрын

I have no power going to my solenoid wire. Ignition switch is new. And ive check that power is going to the ignition switch. What am I missing? 5 speed Mt

@AutoScholarwithMrB 2 жыл бұрын

Check the clutch switch and starter relay

@gavinvoss2877 2 жыл бұрын

@@AutoScholarwithMrB the clutch switch bracket shifted so it wasn't even completing the circuit

@AutoScholarwithMrB 2 жыл бұрын

@@gavinvoss2877 glad you got it sorted!

@rootz420 Жыл бұрын

@@gavinvoss2877 how did u fix it? Mine seems to be plugged in?

@jimmadden4617 2 жыл бұрын

You lost me right away. You said first of “ This relay is #13 in the panel”. You started talking about this is for automatic transmissions... Then, Right after you said “This is relay #11.” ????? 13 one minute 11 the next.....

@charliechucker Жыл бұрын

13th relay socket, the relay position is #13. The relay is marked 175 or something, a different reference

@100Aces Жыл бұрын

Hi great video! I have a 2000 mk4 TDI With the break pedal not depressed and key held in start position, dash will light up, and I get a buzzing noise from under the dash…depress the break pedal and EVERYTHING dies…hold key in start position, without brake pedal depressed, and hit relay block with my hand, the car will crank, but not fire…thanks for any input!!

@AutoScholarwithMrB Жыл бұрын

Have you checked the terminals on the ignition switch?

@100Aces Жыл бұрын

Not yet, was driving… hit a pot hole or something and the car just died… lost all electrical power, with the key on I just get the battery light…if I turn to start and hold… I get all the lights flickering and if I smack the relay cage lightly with a screwdriver it will crank but not fire. The strange part is, if I apply the brake pedal… it again kill’s everything Thanks for your advice.

@100Aces Жыл бұрын

Hello! Me again! The ignition switch looks fine! No burnt, no corrosion…although I have battery power on BOTH fat red wires?!? And no matter what….whenever I depress the brake pedal, it KILLS EVERYTHING!!! Like I grounded the WHOLE SYSTEM???

@AutoScholarwithMrB Жыл бұрын

@@100Aces yeah I’d have to see this one unfortunately. Only time I’ve seen things like this are if mice chew through harnesses. Also double check that all the relays are correct and in the right position. I did have a Passat with two relays swapped and it did odd things like this.

@100Aces Жыл бұрын

@@AutoScholarwithMrB well no rodent damage…and I doubt that the relays swapped themselves when I hit that bump?!

@taylormartinez8601 2 жыл бұрын

Hey Mr. B here is my scenario with my 2000 mk4 TDI golf. Was letting someone do a test drive bc I was selling it. Guys kills it in the driveway backing it in after the drive. Car won’t start. There is zero resistance in the key when in the ignition, nothing happens no crank. I am getting a blinking immobilizerl and blinking glow plug lights. Immobilizer will stop sometimes but glow plug light continues to blink. This happens when the key isn’t even in the car. Check engine and battery light are Illuminated as well. Battery is fine. Jumped the pins in the ignition switch and the starter fires. Confused what is going on. Any ideas? Codes I have 17978 16764 these two I have had since buying it. 00688 supply voltage terminal 30. 01176 key static signal too small. When I unplug the ignition switch no Christmas lights when I plug it in then everything blinks that I stated above. Thanks for any info!

@AutoScholarwithMrB 2 жыл бұрын

Sounds like maybe a possible bad switch

@taylormartinez8601 2 жыл бұрын

@@AutoScholarwithMrB ignition switch? Ok, thank you sir I’ll throw that part at it and see what happens.