why do you "avoid" the brand in first place, if i may ask?

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My wife bought Passat 12 years ago, and still loves it. Has cost her around 500 Pounds in repair costs over that time - a tailgate motor replaced, and one constant velocity joint 'boot'. I've never owned a VW myself, but am into my second Skoda. Haven't spent a penny on them in nine years, and only one warranty job which was fixed in a day.

Thanks 👍

How is the fuel economy overall?

Glad it was helpful!

I would go with Mercedes.

Yes I agree, it was great to see how they react.

Couldn't agree more!

I don't test dealer cars. At the country/regional HQ level there is something called the press car fleet. This is where journalists usually get their test cars from. As to what happens in case of an accident that depends on how the press fleet is managed. In case of VW for example I tore the lower bumper skirting from a Tiguan (its departure angle is insufficient :) ). We just filled out an insurance claim, and that was all. Some brands don't bother. AFAIR Fiat press cars in Poland only get the third party insurance, but Fiat doesn't bother with full insurance, because they will either fix it themselves or scrap the car. How does causing minor (or not so minor) damage to press cars affect my relationship with the press office? First of all, accidents happen. Secondly, I try to be adult about it, and if I break something, I often call right away, and sometimes offer to bring the car back in immediately so that they can start fixing it, so that the car doesn't spend too much time unused. The press fleet is there for publications, so the longer a car is off duty, the more money is lost. I know some people say "it was like this, I didn't do it" or just hand the car over quickly, preferably after dark. This kind of childish behaviour doesn't help maintaining a good relationship. Obviously, if you keep doing stupid things, they will stop lending you cars or put you at the end of the queue. Sports cars and off roaders are the "high risk" cars, because if they are to be tested properly, they should be put in their natural environment. Usually any track activity requires permission or at least I ask if that's OK. I sometimes declined a test car on the basis that I would not be able to test it the way it ought to be tested.

Marek Drives wow, thanks for the thorough reply! Seems like being a long term subscriber has its perks 😬.

Driving a Passat B4 from 1996 grants better comfort and road stability compare to Dacia Lodgy. I had both .

@@iliyarusev296 I agree, but the VW is much more expensive to buy and fix.

@@alierikenoglu8006 actually it's very cheap to run and to buy second hand

@@dragospahontu Dragos, I agree with you. It is fuel effect. My discomfort with the car is that it is not as reliable and it is expensive to fix...the parts are expensive as well. That is why they are cheap to buy second hand. Anyway, I hope yours is doing good for you :)

@@alierikenoglu8006 my point is the parts are cheap and they never really go wrong, I know a lot of friends and family with VAG cars they love em.

AFAIK it's the same interior.

@@MarekDrivesENG thank you Marek :)

Vadym Pyatko or luxury like a kia ceed 2020 base kit which costs 15k€ lol. It’s the manufacturer’s choice and Marek is right about it

@@sudvag rather manufacturers tricks

It is enough for getting through fairly deep snow vs the regular version or driving over downed large tree branches when the regular suspension Passat would scrape on everything, I put it to the test last weekend when we had a high wind storm. I was very thankful for the AllRoad being able to get me out of that situation.. sure it's not a Jeep but a Jeep doesn't have the same comfort, ergonomics or technology and it will get worse MPGs while being more expensive.

@@Jokero_YT Fair enough if you like it, nicely made car no doubt. I didn't need it to be a Jeep, just an Outback. Anyway, now waiting for my Cybertruck instead :)

you can install fatter tyres and add +2cm of clearance 😊

Assuming they fit (which I doubt) these lights require different cables, different control modules, etc. They'd probably blow the older circuitry.

Subaru sells something like 10 cars in Europe, so it's not very relevant.

On-demand.

I have no idea, what Vienna leather looks like. I know it's THE expensive seat option, but I don't think I ever test drive a car that had it specified.

Marek Drives no problem. Is the NVH and ride any better than the Skoda ?

IMO yes.

I have a prelift as company car since 9 Months now. The beige color is almost white and looks great with bright lacquered wood (don´t know the name) and the dark blue paintwork outside. And surprisingly it does not get dirty at all (you shouldn´t wear brand new blue jeans, of course). The side door interior plastics at the lower part get more dirty than the leather, but are easy to clean.

@@citcit9811 Thanks for this great feedback. How do you find the NVH compared to premium cars ?

Mercedes is hardly the best these days.

Po angielsku estate, po amerykańsku wagon.

At least a Continental GT ;)

Brain damage.

The scout in O4 is rather low...almost no difference...and very expensive for a Skoda. Very nice design though...

Maybe it's no longer seen as premium :)

They are the same size, yes but the driving characteristics in the Subaru with the CVT are completely different from a DSG for example.

Same size, different execution. The Outback has the awful CVT and a lot of cheap-looking interior trim. I do like the higher ride height of the Outback (Legacy based) & Crosstrek (Imprezza based). The current Subaru styling is also garish.

@@DavGreg My biggest problem with the Outback was the driving position, the gas pedal is very light and you cannot rest your foot on it during long trips so after a 2hr drive, I got a nice lower back pain since I was trying to keep my foot steady on the gas and in a certain position.

That's not a sustainable way of living. Far better to buy a car, look after it and keep it for as as many years as you can. This easy come, easy go/abuse it and let it be someone else's problem mentality is extremely short sighted.

@@bergeracvandamme Yes, but unfortunately that seems to be the way things are designed to go in the car industry in our times on many occasions.

In the US with a higher ride height like the Outback. VW could eat into the loyal Subaru base that hates the CVT.

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/p9ubdLKa17XDg3k.html good and safe on straight line

Alltrack for the size.

In my country it's way under 30,000€ for an Alltrack, but I would save the money and just buy a normal Variant Passat if you need a wagon!

They are fantastic cars to drive. I just would not want to pay msrp and have an engine failure 3 years later. But buying new is stupid in most cases anyways.

Audi Allroad.

new toyota rav4 hybrid for half the price, not this stupid, lack of indentity, boring car

You can buy freaking good equiped 2019/20 Merc E220 wagon for that much

@@dragosvestemean4229 The RAV4 is a useless crossover. Of wich the world does not need any more. And calling the Passat boring and identity-less and suggesting a Crossover that can be had with FWD!!! in the same sentence is quite funny to me. Crossovers are the epitome of boring and most importantly useless cars the don't serve any purpose apart from giving elderly people an easier ingress and egress.

We have passat gt executive edition 2021 with nearly all equipment you want. It has travel assist digital cockpit ergo comfort seats led matrix lights all we connect services. You name it and it cost a bit over 40000 euro but we have it as company car that you can drive privatly too in sweden and its pretty cheap then we pay like 250$ a month in extra taxes and thats all. The rest of The cost our company is paying.

Bottle green metallic.

Wish we got that colour here in Australia

yeah, something wrong with this world, there's no way passat can cost 63k. I've bought a new SUV with 238 bhp, 8 stage Aisin gearbox, fully loaded with stuff like ACC, leather, heated seats and windows, for only 33k euro. And I still think it is expensive 😂

The quality of the materials. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hZlzqJOZyNnTd3U.html I've checked both Superb and Passat and you can clearly see that the buttons on the Skoda are of a different quality from those from the VW. They are not the same.

design.

also lag is not lug. :) lagging smthing

But at 27,000€ it's a great price for a family car, I would save 2,000€ and get the regular Variant Passat.