Volkswagen's V5 Engine - When A VR6 Is Too Big
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V5 engines are a rare anomaly in the automotive world. Honda used a 1.0L V5 engine in motorcycles, with great success, though the setup hasn't been seen in many production cars. VW produced a V5, or more accurately a VR5, for its packaging and power benefits versus a larger VR6, or a smaller inline four cylinder.
The VR5 engine style, though only requiring two camshafts (SOHC, 2 valves per cylinder, or DOHC, 4 valves per cylinder), has its complications. The intake and exhaust paths are shorter for two of the cylinders, the crankshaft geometry is offset from the cylinder center lines, and ultimately it's not much more powerful than an inline four cylinder. Check out the video for full details about how the engine works.
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@Dharshanth.k 6 жыл бұрын
As an automotive Engineer, I have written journals and published papers on SAE's (society of automotive engineering) and I must say, want to learn something, learn from him, he explains well and easy to understand. Great for students in the Universities who are in the Engineering department
@EngineeringExplained 6 жыл бұрын
Very kind, thanks for watching! Is there a cost effective way of getting access to SAE papers? Love to read them, but $28/pop gets rough if you go through a few of them.
@Dharshanth.k 6 жыл бұрын
Engineering Explained to be honest, unless you ask a university lecturer to download it for you, I don't see any other legal way for you to obtain them. I have written about the efficiency and the effects of a SI engine of a higher pressure in fuel pressure regulator. Just setting an extra of 50kpa to your fuel pressure regulator, would cause a 2.0% increase of hp, 1.3% of torque but 30°C more in temperature of the mouth of the exhaust manifold. It was an utter failure for that paper but I found ways how not to meddle any manufacturing specs in a vehicle (dry humor) anyways, thanks for replying mate. Hope you have a wonderful week ahead of you. Cheerio!!
@Dharshanth.k 6 жыл бұрын
Engineering Explained I think you can discuss it with any of the lecturer in any Universities that has subscribed to SAE, to download the PDF file for you. That's the only way. Sorry, I can't be much of a help there
@maxcheung6269 6 жыл бұрын
"easy to understand". I dont understand a damn thing but I don't know why I keep watching.
@rsbrozo4124 6 жыл бұрын
Actually Not, because he uses Facts, which arent completely false but also not 100% right... so most of the time its easier to understand but not completly correct.
@hughjanus3899 6 жыл бұрын
Put a smile on my face seeing this. I own a Golf4 Variant VR5, bought it with 220k km on it and now 30k km later it still runs and sounds like new.
@dizko75 6 жыл бұрын
I owned a 2000 year VW Bora with the V5 engine years ago - Cracking exhaust sound, smooth running (thanks to all the counter balancing act going on inside) but only really made sense at 80+ mph speeds where constant high speed could be easily matintained and MPG actually improved into the low 30's! That said, it had woeful economy around town though, I once read a comment on this particular engine - 'Performance of a 4 cylinder with the economy of a 6 cylinder'......very true!
@EngineeringExplained 6 жыл бұрын
Haha, thanks for sharing your story, love the shortened description of it. 😂
@tarstarkusz 6 жыл бұрын
With the cylinder on a 15 degree angle and a flat head, the pistons are offset. Presumably compression is not that good with 1/2 the cylinder 15 degrees off of TDC
@bobhope4288 6 жыл бұрын
tarstarkusz, I believe the top of the pistons are slanted, so the piston and the top of the combustion chamber are parallel with each other and there is no dead space. So the compression ratio is on par other engines.
@tarstarkusz 6 жыл бұрын
Oh. OK... Thanks.
@justabrokeredneck 6 жыл бұрын
DIZKO BIZZKIT that sounds terrible. i4 performance with v6 economy. i’ve never driven a fuel efficient v6 edit: or driven an i4 that i felt like it’s performance was worth being referred to as “power”
@bwxmoto 6 жыл бұрын
I hate it when I smash into a wall and all my cylinders get bunched up.
@k1114da1 6 жыл бұрын
Especially in my own garage
@bwxmoto 6 жыл бұрын
I know it's so annoying! LOL
@OlegSeroshtan 6 жыл бұрын
I’ve heard it’s bad for the engine. Try to avoid doing that at least not more than twice a day.
@TheJacobshapiro 6 жыл бұрын
For when a VR6 is not weird enough
@silasmayes7954 6 жыл бұрын
TheJacobShapiro yes!!!
@MrTheHillfolk 6 жыл бұрын
Silas Mayes but they sound so good and fit in a mk1 vw😲 Watercooled vw lego cars 👍🏻
@silasmayes7954 6 жыл бұрын
MrHillfolk saying the engine is weird is more of a compliment than anything else. I love 5 cylinder engines.
@NousagiMechanic 6 жыл бұрын
MrHillfolk See, you might think calling them Legos to be a joke, but I'm doing precisely that with a Mk3. Have an AGW 20v head that I'll be bolting to the top of my ABA block (yes I know about the pistons) and running it all through a TDi-ratio 02A. XD
@SolaricAngel116 5 жыл бұрын
@@silasmayes7954 I Have A Concept For A VR Engine, It Is Called The Nellds VR10. It Is Like Two Of This Engine But Put Together In One Bank.
@Delzra 6 жыл бұрын
VR5 exhaust notes are the best
@k1wi_steve 6 жыл бұрын
the motion of your fingers explaining the offset crank rotation made my head blue screen, had to push my reset button.
@EngineeringExplained 6 жыл бұрын
It's a weird "pat your head and rub your belly" type of thing haha.
@k1wi_steve 6 жыл бұрын
Engineering Explained very mu h so lol, to early in the morning to attempt it😁
@seanslocum3752 6 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I’m very impressed he did it so seamlessly too. it looked so easy...
@bbkangs 6 жыл бұрын
Doesn’t get much better than EE on a Sunday morning!
@EngineeringExplained 6 жыл бұрын
Too kind!
@robertr7923 6 жыл бұрын
Sundayevening for me
@pantherplatform 6 жыл бұрын
bbkangs hell yeah. Never knew they could over engineer something as over engineered as a V5
@DodgyBrothersEngineering 6 жыл бұрын
Don't you mean Monday morning? ;)
@DodgyBrothersEngineering 6 жыл бұрын
Ben it almost seems like an exercise in "I don't care it doesn't make sense we have the technology to do it".
@haridoessports 6 жыл бұрын
Wonderful job again bruh! Keep doing such great videos. You are so famous that our lecturer at our university recommends your channel! We both keep talking about your videos when ever we meet. Anyways, keep the good work going man. :)
@EngineeringExplained 6 жыл бұрын
Very happy to hear it, thanks for watching!
@HumbleMechanic 6 жыл бұрын
So big... So powerful. ;)
@dragannikolic5188 2 жыл бұрын
Is it reliable im looking to buy one?
@calin97100 2 жыл бұрын
@@dragannikolic5188 Yeah, pretty much. Naturally aspirated, so no stress to them. Of course they have the typical issues, but nothing crazy.
@vincentbroms667 6 жыл бұрын
Love these unique engines, so much more fun than a straight or V engine.
@EngineeringExplained 6 жыл бұрын
Agreed, awesome to have some weird variants out there!
@Jajo3998 6 жыл бұрын
doesn't Audi still have a (i think inline) 5 cylinder?
@00ElGrande00 6 жыл бұрын
yep still there, eg in the rs3 models
@Baerchenization 6 жыл бұрын
Have a look at the new MB straight 6 - it is not longer than its V6 predecessor...
@ecsolha 6 жыл бұрын
I think the discontinued the i5 engine like Volvo did.
@VAspeed3 6 жыл бұрын
Saw your interview with Justin Bell at Sebring yesterday on TV! Great to see you're really getting around.
@EngineeringExplained 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome awesome, what an honor!!
@ericre75 6 жыл бұрын
I saw you the other day at the Mexico E-Prix. Love your videos, man
@EngineeringExplained 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@Healtsome 6 жыл бұрын
hmm so theoretically someone could mash these two to get W10 4.6L. would love to hear that
@mandernachluca3774 6 жыл бұрын
It would be a VVR engine (like the Bugatti engine). A W engine would be something like a radial engine choped in half.
@TraceyAllen 6 жыл бұрын
Mandernach Luca I believe VW has a W8 and a W12. The W12 was in the Phaeton.
@hondaguy9153 6 жыл бұрын
They made a 5.0L W10 TDI.
@Healtsome 6 жыл бұрын
wasn't that V10 TDI?
@mandernachluca3774 6 жыл бұрын
Those are also VVR12 engines. Think of it as two VR6 engines welded together in the shape of a V. They were getting published as W engines what technically speaking was totally wrong. The only "real" W engine i know that has been put into a street car was the W16 in the Bugatti eb18/3 Chiron (i think Tatra also made w12 engine but i'm not sure).
@callumdevlin9766 6 жыл бұрын
Great job explaining it! I'm going to university next year to study mechanical engineering, and always love watching your videos, they're really interesting!
@edt11x 6 жыл бұрын
You are really good at explaining!
@Adam1400_ 6 жыл бұрын
Makes sense
@nadeenanuradha8100 6 жыл бұрын
super explained.....✌✌👌👌
@starvalkyrie 6 жыл бұрын
I'd criticize them for going through all those engineering challenges before just turboing a 4. But I'm also the guy that wakes up every day hoping for news the wankel is coming back.
@ahmadz251 6 жыл бұрын
Eric Cassidy I'd say... Naturally aspirated engines are way better than turbo charged...
@Mr.Marbles 6 жыл бұрын
Turbocharger+supercharger masterrace
@starvalkyrie 6 жыл бұрын
That's just not true. The areas where NA engines are preferable shrink every day. For any kind of performance application, skipping out on boost is just leaving power on the table. NA survives on it's lower cost, and simplicity. Not on it's performance and efficiency superiority. Even the Civic Type-R, in it's pure pursuit of lightweight, simplicity and performance, has finally conceded to the turbo's capability. Now if it's about the sound the perfectly linear throttle response, the experience of enjoying the NA itself, have your fun. But it is strictly inferior on every front except simplicity. Even then engines with complicated geometry and balancing issues like the VR6/5 lose out to turbos in simplicity as well, which is why VW has abandoned them.
@urbanweekendwarrior7238 6 жыл бұрын
I agree. Just spend your efforts on building the most capable 4cyl engine you can (in terms of block, heat dissipation, internal strength, harshness), and change induction to vary the power output throughout the model range. You could even bore/stroke it for a performance line as well. It didn't make sense that they built 15 different types of engine around the same "v" concept, when they really just needed compact power.
@deansmits006 6 жыл бұрын
Well, you just might. But as a boring range extender. Considering the compact size, sounds legit
@82werk72 6 жыл бұрын
They sounds amazing !!!!
@otodestekcim 6 жыл бұрын
very nice !!!
@yasinakdemir863 6 жыл бұрын
Oto Destekçim Abi sen buralara gelirmiydin
@oguzhanylmazer2479 6 жыл бұрын
vay abi :D very nice
@PetrosV5 6 жыл бұрын
YES YES YES !!! I asked for this video months ago because i used to own an amazing Seat Toledo V5 20v (AQN). Thank you Jason@Engineering Explained, greetings from Greece.
@buzzerr117 6 жыл бұрын
5 Cylinders are the best engines hands down.
@mrsir7453 2 жыл бұрын
Only an inline 5. But a V10 is twice as awesome!
@Karlyeramian 6 жыл бұрын
I owned a V5 bora (jetta) I confirm it had a constant vibration, as far as sound it wasn't out of the ordinary.
@swabby429 6 жыл бұрын
This made me feel nostalgic for my '86 Quantum Syncro with inline 5.
@x-man4702 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this video, I really enjoyed it!
@rinusbrand9993 6 жыл бұрын
Hello Jason, I follow your tutorials quit some time now; as You once said "we engineers do not no everything", so I also learned from Your knowledge (clear explainations) as well.
@bringmorebeer 6 жыл бұрын
I recently watched the backpressure video you put out, and I was wondering if you would mind putting a video up explaining intake runners. Mainly length vs. Tq and itb's. Love the videos, makes me miss engineering school.
@Casey_Schmidt 6 жыл бұрын
Can you explain the engineering benefits and drawbacks of rotors valve engines next?
@RedShoesSmith 6 жыл бұрын
Love to see a video about the future of internal combustion engines from your perspective. Are we looking at five years, 50 years, or something in between?
@PatrickMcMichael 6 жыл бұрын
Kinda reminds me of the Duke engine! Would love a explanation on that crazy machine. (Also a Thomson coupling CV joint while you're educating us on "down under" tech - that thing is wild!)
@omarrajab4881 6 жыл бұрын
I love ur channel bc I learn a lot from it
@EngineeringExplained 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@omarrajab4881 6 жыл бұрын
I’m in love with ur vids I always impress myself bc of ur vids
@bbkangs 6 жыл бұрын
Can you do a video on dogbox transmissions?
@rodrigomendes1980 6 жыл бұрын
This would be a good topic
@two_number_nines 6 жыл бұрын
im sure he did
@totszwai 6 жыл бұрын
Wow something new with the video! It has that rotation transition now!
@rifted 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for the great work and passion on your videos! love them! Would it be possible to make a video on AUDI\VW\SEAT 1.4 TSI which seems to have a watercooler instead of a intercooler like the 2.0 TSI? I just purchase a 1.4 TSI Leon ST and loving the engine! but when spent some time checking the engine notice the lack of tubing and it seemed at first the cheap out and not installing a intercooler but after a quick search it seems like they are using a watercooler right infront of the intake! so... I thought it might worth your time for a video? lol Cheers and keep the great work! Ed
@dErHaRd23 3 жыл бұрын
I have one of those V5 in my Golf Mk IV ! It's the 1st version (150hp). Not a beast of a car but it's fun to drive, it sounds amazing and also have a good response. Bad thing is the fuel consumption, about 12L/100km easily. But if you find one, make sure to get it beacuse it's a great experience!
@Xupertes 6 жыл бұрын
Always a pleasure to listen your explanations/descriptions. Could you do the same for V8 engines?
@EngineeringExplained 6 жыл бұрын
Indeed I can! :) kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Z65derqU3LWYpqs.html
@JasonDoege 6 жыл бұрын
Cool video, cool engine. It has a great exhaust note. Would like to hear more about how the offset cylinder centers mean that one bank of cylinders act on the crank differently than the other and what that means to torque and power. What I mean is one bank of pistons is moving in the same direction as the bottom of the connecting rod during the power stroke where as the other bank would have the connecting rod swinging to the side during the power stroke.
@calmdown1488 6 жыл бұрын
You are awesome bro!
@louishaighway2024 6 жыл бұрын
My first car was a 2002 beetle v5 cracking sounding car and did suprise a few people :)
@juzoli 6 жыл бұрын
What was the most interesting engine design which has NEVER made it into production? I would love to see a video about that.
@RWoody1995 6 жыл бұрын
Diesel rotary and the VW W18 come to mind
@valde3336 6 жыл бұрын
Or Napier Deltic 2 stroke diesel
@1barnet1 6 жыл бұрын
well didn't the napier deltic make it into trains and ships?
@alanbrown397 6 жыл бұрын
it also made it into stationary applications (power generation), along with a bunch of strange Mirrlees types.
@valde3336 6 жыл бұрын
I missed the word newer on the title.
@evansutherland8060 6 жыл бұрын
I have a 3.2L vr6 its one of the best sounding engines ever
@ronimughrabi4365 3 жыл бұрын
Have you heard the VR5?
@am-mm2sl 3 ай бұрын
ever heard VQ
@mlisiewicz 6 жыл бұрын
Nice vid. Such engines are unfortunately gone for good. With twinscroll turbos, it is just much easier and cheaper to reuse same blocks in a range of cars with bigger turbos and better injectors...
@AtharvaGulhane 6 жыл бұрын
Wow...!! That was an completely amazing experience.....
@yourrapunzel 6 жыл бұрын
The title of this video reminded me of how much I liked my Jetta VR6. That was a good car. I skipped straight from that to the turbo 4, so I never experienced the V5.
@inebriatedengineering6288 6 жыл бұрын
I don't know how I feel about this rotating cube; I've always respected your seemingly seemless sessions.
@johnnyr25 6 жыл бұрын
I'm willing to wager that the maintenance and repair costs of these engines are as interesting also.
@coscorrodrift 6 жыл бұрын
johnnyr25 repair maybe, might need a specialized mechanic for it, and parts like those intake and exhaust manifolds or head gaskets if they break, but maintenance? I doubt oil, filters, and that change a lot, and there's only one extra spark plug and coil.
@SuperUltimateLP 6 жыл бұрын
the vr engines are to my knowledge very reliable my mk4 vr5 never had a problem but here in germany gasoline is very expensive so the car was just too expensive in the long run.
@shintsu01 6 жыл бұрын
owned one for 4 years and had no mechanical problems with it, only they replacement of lights was a pain since for the car the engine was actually big for that car so they had to remove the front of the car to replace a light bulp :D,
@karelvvv 6 жыл бұрын
Maintenance and repairs are equivalent to the VR6's, generally a timing chain is € 1500 (parts & labor) and you pay the same for a dual mass flywheel and clutch, for the rest it uses the VR6 externals (waterpump, pulley's, oil filter, -housing and cooler)
@MrJObajobas 6 жыл бұрын
johnnyr25 basically everything fits from a vr6 so pretty much the same, minus one spark plug ofc. Have a seat toledo vr5, engine is a reliable piece, in 5 years of ownership had to change oil pressure sensor, maf sensor and a throttle body. Not bad for a 400k km car. It sounds really well, power output is not that good, it likes to chug fuel too. Oh and main issue that i had with it was the freaking oil sump, damn it sits low. Still puts a smile on my face whenever it gets to rev. And believe me, it gets to rev often.
@TheLeonmafioso 6 жыл бұрын
Jason, excellent video. I want to ask you something, can you explain the Lancia ECV Triflux engine?
@deansmits006 6 жыл бұрын
It's interesting what they come up with over the years, to meet various size limits, emissions, power, and NVH requirements. Today, no point to this engine, b/c the ea888 is so good. But it's so cool, would love to see a modernized version of this
@LappMartin 6 жыл бұрын
Yeahh!! Bougt a golf with a vr5 under the hood half year ago for one reason only - love the sound!!!
@SeanHollingsworth 6 жыл бұрын
The offset crank inherently has interesting torque characteristics. I wonder if the valve lift and duration on the left-hand cylinders is different from the right-hand cylinders.
@szteinoo 6 жыл бұрын
The sound of the 5 cylinder and it's compactness win against every odds it has ^_^
@NUCLEATI0N 6 жыл бұрын
Video request: Hi Jason! Can you make a video explaining how Subaru's x-mode works and how its different than the rest of subaru AWD systems? Thanks and keep up the great content!
@Evaldas256 6 жыл бұрын
Should've had Charles on for this video, you guys make a good duet.
@stibba4286 4 жыл бұрын
I have a 99 golf mk4 with this engine! It still runs great!
@bajkerjohnvolta 6 жыл бұрын
Hi i see that u're relally digging deep into stuff and i like u're videos. Please try to do a video about rotary valve system it's interesting topic with a lot op potetila for 4 stoke engines.
@shintsu01 6 жыл бұрын
owned a VR5 170HP one back in the day :) had a smooth and intrestring sound/performance compared to 2.0 4L i had before i tried a 1.8 4L turbo and decided to pick this engine because of the smooth driving and intresting sound ecenomly and performance the turbo would be a better pick tough.
@guidoheeling1179 4 жыл бұрын
Jason you forgot one thing! They sound awsome!!!
@Henchman1977 6 жыл бұрын
Do they correct for the intake / exhaust travel distances with the manifolds?
@EngineeringExplained 6 жыл бұрын
Based on some photos of the manifolds, it doesn't look like it. They don't in the VR6 engines, which have an even split of 3/3, but it's interesting that here you have different lengths and different numbers of cylinders.
@x-man4702 6 жыл бұрын
Engineering Explained Like you said, it's amazing that a weird (very cool to me) engine like this made it to production.
@maestrofm 6 жыл бұрын
No, but ECU correct fuel injection time for longer manifolds
@Nobody-U-Want-2-Know 6 жыл бұрын
Engineering Explained there’s an added electric air pump on the intake side
@mannyjeet 6 жыл бұрын
Engineering Explained what's interesting about the intake manifold is the changeover valve that forces air through a different set of tubes via a flap in the intake to maximize low end torque by creating a longer path and I guess making more turbulent air. That's why the vr6 has such awesome low end torque!
@Taco-bomb-GTA 2 жыл бұрын
I've got another subscriber , Greetings from Brazil!
@hadiamer9643 6 жыл бұрын
Nice..can you explain how “hot vapor” (or “hot air”) engine works or operates its benfits advantges and disadvantges
@killuminatii1 4 жыл бұрын
I drive a Golf V5 2.3 150PK now and the engine is very smooth... And the sound is very deep and intens! Love it when a floor it a bit. Like muscle car
@f3rrrbdn79 6 жыл бұрын
Great video 🎥 !!!!!
@LevelUpLegends88 3 жыл бұрын
the 2.3 VR5 from the jetta in the US got scooped up by Quattro GMBH and they increased the bore to 2.5 Liters, changed a couple of things and put a Turbo on it. Thats how the TTRS and RS3 5 cylinder turbo engine was born. ;)
@RobbZinn 6 жыл бұрын
Wow I just sold a 2003 passat vr5 4 motion 2 weeks ago. It served us well and was very reliable
@Stevieboy130664 6 жыл бұрын
I currently have a car with this engine - the 20v version - a Seat Toledo V5. Fantastic - sounds great, smooth, revvy and yet makes power from 1000 to 6000 rpm in a very linear fashion. On the minus side it likes a drink. Being an engineer, I bought it for its uniqueness, its weirdness and the fact that the idea of the narrow v was originally used by Lancia. The design feature where the centreline of the cylinders is offset from the centreline of the crank is known as desaxe. A pity this engine and the DSG gearbox were not available concurrently.
@7spower998 6 жыл бұрын
VW has VR6 and VR5 no V6 and V5.
@OlegSeroshtan 6 жыл бұрын
Have you covered radial config yet? That’s quite interesting and pretty viable for certain applications configuration.
@pd4165 6 жыл бұрын
What applications? You can make them fit anything but there's usually a better/simpler/cheaper alternative.
@OlegSeroshtan 6 жыл бұрын
pd4165 well I should’ve specified that it’s mostly for planes
@geewilliams2178 6 жыл бұрын
Only last year I sold by beloved SEAT Toledo V5. Tuned to 190 bhp with a miltek exhaust it was amazing. Sounded great went great and really high spec. Massively regret selling it. I loved the lazy, (as in not frantic like the turbo in my SEAT Ibiza Cupra) progress, predicable power. Fast too.
@AdamAdamHDL 6 жыл бұрын
Vibration.. Do you have a video on engine counter weights (balance) and the means manufacturers use to reduce vibration. When ever I imagine firing orders I keep envisioning all this engine movement.
@EngineeringExplained 6 жыл бұрын
Yes indeed, several videos on the subject. Here's the start: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/l9WeldqA3dXTd3U.html From there, you can search for primary balance, secondary balance, and balancing shafts for additional videos on how engines are balanced.
@AdamAdamHDL 6 жыл бұрын
Engineering Explained oh good man.
@cck1496 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. What is this FI= 4(180)/5. Thanks for explanation.
@CarsSimplified 6 жыл бұрын
I can just imagine the engineers getting so frustrated with design constraints that they floated this idea just out of frustration and then got the go-ahead.
@Loasdrums2 5 жыл бұрын
Great explanation/overview. I wonder about balancing port lengths and heat dissipation. With that firing order and exhaust porting heat build up between 1 and 3 would seem to be an issue. It's an interesting approach to have a smaller engine than the VR6 with the HP similar to Honda's B18B1 and B18C1 I4s. I am curious about how much more smooth the VR5 is in comparison. More typical 5 cylinder engines would have a crankshaft that resembles a flower. This makes for a very balanced crankshaft in rotation and most of the vibration being end to end.
@brianb-p6586 Жыл бұрын
Port length balancing isn't really a problem - the runners with short length in the head just need more length outside of the head before joining the intake plenum or exhaust collector.
@eoinkenny3188 6 жыл бұрын
Any chance you could go into more details on the maths behind balancing a crank an how it varies between different configurations
@coscorrodrift 6 жыл бұрын
Good vid. I wonder if W10 designs could exist with two of these blocks
@robzeijlmaker8246 4 жыл бұрын
Super engine's, my dad had a Passat VR5. And for the last 2 year's I have a Seat Toledo VR5
@Captain_Brown_Beard 6 жыл бұрын
I miss my old 12v VR6. Lovely torque and engine exhaust note, but man when timing chain time comes prepare!
@cun7sathome 6 жыл бұрын
I have a 20v vr5... i love it.... great engine.. spunds amazing.. if i had to moan it can be a bit ueavy on fuel when you kane it... but...... great engine strong and just for the sound.. amazing
@2thelight 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent video never heard of a 3-2 V6 on another subject I'm wondering if you know anything about the Axel's on the Humvees I saw a video on off the ranch on KZfaq where they axles do not go directly into the center of the wheel but go into a gear that's raised up to give it a few more inches of ground clearance sounds like an engineering nightmare and maintenance problem down the line
@IntergalacticSpaceKitten 3 жыл бұрын
I don't know crap about cars but as soon as I heard about this engine being considered unique, I wanted to learn why. This thing is an engineering marvel. Pretty impressive.
@basithph8958 6 жыл бұрын
Great sounding five cylinder👍
@brianb-p6586 Жыл бұрын
I didn't know that the bores were offset from the crank. The bore spacing is very wide compared to typical inline and vee engines to help the interference between the bores of each bank, but apparently that wasn't enough for this extremely narrow vee angle without an excessive rod length.
@silasmayes7954 6 жыл бұрын
I love 5 cylinder engines
@skrzynia7996 3 жыл бұрын
Intake starts on side where there are 2 cylinders if somebody will ever ask. I have vr5 150hp seat toledo from '99 and its fun car to drive. In my car I made 25/28 miles per gallon (10l per 100km) and sometimes when you try you get 31mpg. But sound and feeling of this engine gives much fun. When you rev it to around 3000rpm engine is really balanced. Engine bay it's quite roomy when you put cone shaped air filter instead of giant oem filter and it's box. Engine is really simple build and you can do lots of stuff by yourself if you know anything about any engines. I will never sold this car, engine is and forever be so unique that you will probably never know person who have vr5. It's crazy design but not boring like others budget cars (mine cost me something around 600$ and okey its has some rust, but is healthy engine).
@SpartanMJO12 6 жыл бұрын
Jokes aside, the VR engines, both the 5 and 6, are among the best engines ever designed in my opinion. I assume people with vibration issues must have worn out engine mounts, because the last VR5 I was in was as smooth as warm butter. The fact you can cram that much power into roughly the same size engine as a regular inline 4 amazes me, not the fact that VW did it, but the fact nobody else thought to make it a mainstream engine before then. (I know all about the inspiration for the VR6, the VR4, but that was hardly a bestseller.)
@alessandroarizaluski9178 6 жыл бұрын
Lancia was first with v6, v4, v8
@JackLoyal93 6 жыл бұрын
Would have liked to have seen this engine here in the U.S. and in a 3rd gen. Scirocco too (which we also never got over here in N. America.)
@demoritzz5327 3 жыл бұрын
Actually it is balanced quite good or the engine mounts are fenomenal...at idle mine vibrates but as soon as you rev it it is as smooth as butter
@halnywiatr 6 жыл бұрын
But how did it compare to the Audi I5 engine? The I5 seems to have most of the advantages of both the I4 and VR6.
@gabrielpbachega9615 6 жыл бұрын
We can associate the offset with the improvement of the bore and stroke forces produced by the cumbustion? I thought that offset provide a straght line on this two components, increasing the efficiency. But at the cost of more vibration.
@Oblithian 6 жыл бұрын
Could mismatched piston/bore/stroke sizes help balance a V5 (or any engine)?
@bennygreene1421 3 жыл бұрын
Theres nothing weird about any engine if you like it. I had a vw quantum 5 cylinder. One tough engine. I loved it.
@willem4057 4 жыл бұрын
There are no rockers stretching over the cylinder head, each camshaft presses both the inlet and exhaust valves of the bank that it's on.
@cun7sathome 6 жыл бұрын
I love my car so much that i simply cannot even sell it.. even tho its about to cost more than its worth to do the clutch... but i think for the engine alone its worth keeping alive as there are about 15: 20v v5 with a manual box left in the uk
@Avantone 3 жыл бұрын
Got the AQN version in a beetle. Best thing about it is the sound!
@nsren92 6 жыл бұрын
You are one of the reasons I quit my job and began my education to become a engineer !
@EngineeringExplained 6 жыл бұрын
Good on you on furthering your education, and best of luck to you!
@reportersblog2273 6 жыл бұрын
i drive a VW 2.3 V5 with 149.*** kms on the clock. runs as smooth as it was 19 years ago. no problems with it what so ever.
@OEMPlus 6 жыл бұрын
that's pretty interesting. i would expect it to rotate like a top more than rock like a V motor.
@michaelcalkins8648 6 жыл бұрын
So did VW use offset crank pins with 72 degrees separation to obtain even firing impulses? Also, it seems the varied intake/exhaust ports could be tuned to broaden the torque curve and power band.
@7spower998 6 жыл бұрын
Jason. Excellent video. The VR nomenclature in German is for Verkürzt Reihen or loosely translated as Shortened In-Line in English. It's a true In-Line 5 even firing 5-pin crank-throw crankshaft with a staggered 15°V cylinder bores head. Btw, from the diagram, the 15° dimension should be from cyl. ℄ to ℄ (the dotted lines). You mentioned the Honda V5 motorcycle engine. They're both 5-cyl. however, the Honda engine is a true V5 engine with the 3-pin crank-throw crankshaft, 75.5°V-block, and 2 cyl. heads, 2 everything....etc. The cyl. 1 & 2 ride on crankpin no.1, the cyl. 3 ride on crankpin no.2, and the cyl. 4 & 5 ride on crankpin no.3. The brilliant, and marvel design of VW's VR engine architecture are: 2 VR6 = W12 - Audi A8L W12 & VW Phaeton W12 VR6 -1 cyl. = The VR5 above 2 VR5 = VR10 - In 3D CAD only? VR6 - 2 cyl. = VR4 x 2 = W8 - Passat W8 2 W8 = W16 - Bugatti
@durtcobain5167 Жыл бұрын
The 5.0 tdi was a vr10 i believe
@7spower998 Жыл бұрын
@@durtcobain5167 The VW V10 5.0L TDI is a 90° V10 not a VR10.
@sigmaprojects 6 жыл бұрын
Can you do an analysis of the ECA1 engine out of the first generation Insight? Seems to have a lot of tech that no one talks about.
@Explorerman1293 6 жыл бұрын
Can you do one on FLOATING GEARS? That's be awesome since I know it's possible in some cars.
@saw0man 6 жыл бұрын
Hi, love your videos I have a question, I just bought a 2.5L V5 VW passat 2014 that done 88000 KM, the first every thing is perfect, the second week I start hearing some metal noises while the 6 speed automatic is shifting, and after a long drive (1 hour or so) or driving using sport mode for a short period, the metal noise increases and I start hearing some ticking noise increases with rpm sometimes the ticking noise goes when I turn on the air conditioning, this car isn't popular in my county and it's out of warranty, I hope you can help, note that the car acceleration or temperature is perfect
@8Hshan 6 жыл бұрын
saw0man It's not a V5, but a normal inline 5.
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