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Vox AC30 Speakers Test: Greenback vs Alnico Blue

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Max Solo Music

Max Solo Music

7 жыл бұрын

In this video: My Greenback vs Alnico Blue shootout.
Let's find out what the differene is between these speakers Vox AC30 comes equipped with.
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@IgorHatesEverything
@IgorHatesEverything 6 жыл бұрын
This is what happens when a competent, intelligent person puts together a comparison video. That was excellent.
@Kathayne636
@Kathayne636 6 жыл бұрын
Spot on.
@tonymarinelli7304
@tonymarinelli7304 6 жыл бұрын
Agreed, very well done!
@mladengrubelic873
@mladengrubelic873 4 жыл бұрын
A competent, intelligent person doesn't switch on the standby switch immediately after switching the power on. It's not a Kemper or AxeFx. The tubes must warm up to a working temperature.
@msaintpc
@msaintpc 4 жыл бұрын
@@mladengrubelic873 Dumb ass, that was time elapsed. Think first before jumping up to denigrate someone asshole.
@colinwilliamgraham
@colinwilliamgraham 4 жыл бұрын
​@@mladengrubelic873 Tube amps existed for years before standby switches were added, and there were no problems just turning those amps on you moron.
@atishep
@atishep 6 жыл бұрын
Came for the speaker comparison, stayed for the Excel tutorial.
@grandesguitarristas635
@grandesguitarristas635 5 жыл бұрын
Hahaha, for sure!
@iamamish
@iamamish 5 жыл бұрын
From now on, when I encounter a poorly-executed gear comparison video, I'm going to point them at this video. Amazing. This sets the standard of what a gear comparison video should look like. OP worked hard to eliminate confounding differences between the tone of the two speakers, and showed us exactly what's the same and what's changed. Additionally I like the way OP switched back & forth throughout the comparison, rather than playing for 2 minutes on one setup, then another 2 minutes on the other. It's much easier to compare the tones this way. Bravo!!
@jalanredop4940
@jalanredop4940 5 жыл бұрын
Totally agreed !
@anthonybanovic3658
@anthonybanovic3658 4 жыл бұрын
Sure but not one word of technology spoke. Greenbacks balong in Marshalls. Blues for ACX30c2's
@bierce85
@bierce85 6 жыл бұрын
thank you so much for switching back and forth quickly! wish all demos did this
@Willtext
@Willtext 5 жыл бұрын
One of the best speaker comparison videos I have ever watched! Thank you for taking the time to make it 👍🏼
@marka7519
@marka7519 7 жыл бұрын
I have several of the Vox AC handwireds in various power sizes, and all are equipped with the blues. I too have often wondered how the blues and greenbacks differ in these amps. This is just an excellent demo all the way around. I can appreciate the production time that went in to making this. Add bonus points for slipping in MS Excel. While I still prefer the blues for what I play 90% of the time, your demo makes me think I wouldn't miss them too much if I had greenbacks, and the higher gain was clearly better to my ear with the greenbacks. Although when I play higher gain through my blues, they sound just fine to me as well. Thanks again and keep up the good work.
@MaxSoloMusic
@MaxSoloMusic 7 жыл бұрын
hey, thanks for your feedback. Yeah, both are great! I personally would go with blues, they sound much more traditional in terms of AC30 to me. But even with high gain they have some unique spiciness
@alexmurphy5289
@alexmurphy5289 3 жыл бұрын
@@MaxSoloMusic I agree. I think overall unless you’re constantly running your vox hot with high gain the blues are the tone most are searching for. Greenbacks are in tons of other combos anyway might as well go with the blues in your vox right?
@TheWarriorSongProject
@TheWarriorSongProject 3 жыл бұрын
For those who do not know how retail pricing works, I will explain. I am not endorsing or applauding this, I am just explaining (I worked for Avid and M-Audio). Retail Price = Cost x TheMultiplierNumber. Wholesale Price is usually 50% of the MSRP. Minimum Advertised Price (MAP) = some fraction of the MSRP that is usually fixed, like 80%. In one of the companies I worked for, TheMultiplierNumber was 5. So, if the Cost to build a widget was $100, then the MSRP would be $500, and the Wholesale cost would be $250. If it cost $200 to build a Knutenvalve, then the retail would be $1000 ($999, for the psychology) and the wholesale would be $500. This is why the cost of the alnico blue speakers isn't exctly 308 euros higher than without. The speaker changed the cost of build, which drastically affects the multiplier (and often, the profit margin).
@andrewspry1355
@andrewspry1355 3 жыл бұрын
Come for the speaker comparison, stay for the marketing lecture.
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@gordontubbs
@gordontubbs 7 жыл бұрын
Greenback for gain tone. Blue for clean tones. May as well put 1 of each in the amp! Best of both worlds.
@MaxSoloMusic
@MaxSoloMusic 7 жыл бұрын
That's what i'd do!
@tomvernon9679
@tomvernon9679 7 жыл бұрын
I've seen it done, works really well.
@delivrance3961
@delivrance3961 7 жыл бұрын
Gordon Tubbs exactly what i thought, my fav goes to the greenback... crunchier i 'd say ...anyway, excellent demo and new suscriber here!
@MaxSoloMusic
@MaxSoloMusic 7 жыл бұрын
Hey! Thanks
@sassulusmagnus
@sassulusmagnus 7 жыл бұрын
I have a 1994 reissue AC30/6 with one Greenback and one Alnico Blue. It is indeed a wonderful combination. The Blue is louder; the Greenback warmer. Both have great crunch tones.
@renno92music69
@renno92music69 7 ай бұрын
Watching this 6 years after you posted it. What a brilliant demonstration between the two amps. Perfectly done. I’ve played a greenback but never a blue. This has given me the answers to get a blue. Thank you
@gliddofglood
@gliddofglood 7 жыл бұрын
As far as I can hear, not enough sonic difference to justify the price difference. Sometimes the Greens sounded better, sometimes the Blues did. Depended on the guitar, the mike and the distortion. I think one could be happy with either. I have an AC30 with Greens and wouldn't start a Blue hunting project on the basis of this video. Excellent vid BTW. Very complete and well put together. Thanks!
@davidfield8122
@davidfield8122 7 жыл бұрын
gliddofglood yeah, I think the average player would be better off saving the cash on the .05% tone difference and buying a few awesome pedals with the savings instead. Plus I hear the blue speakers don't last as long
@keithspillett
@keithspillett 6 жыл бұрын
The blues have a lower power rating, so I could imagine people blowing them apart without too much trouble. My band hosts jam nights, so I've installed much higher rated speakers in my amp, because many of the jammers choose to turn everything up to 12!
@jagjet9153
@jagjet9153 6 жыл бұрын
Wives are a thing of joy, right up until they say no ! Having said that if you can see, feel, smell, taste or recognize a difference in a product, then it is a value judgement. When wives are involved with financial dealings then the smartest thing to do is provide a bauble, or practical solution or equal value for her. Let's realize that her set of valuation parameters are different from yours. How much does she spend on a Hair appointment ? How long will the difference pay for your gear ? This a just one item. How about clothes ? This is about you getting more than her in her eyes. So you must balance this with factual parity. Make it equal for you both and "Happy wife equals Happy Life". If you are not really equal and even handed shame on you, this woman picked you and she didn't have to. You had nothing to do with it. She knew she could fix you !
@tonymarinelli7304
@tonymarinelli7304 6 жыл бұрын
Your comment is brilliant, some who are lucky enough NOT to be married may not fully understand.
@lifeofalex9199
@lifeofalex9199 4 жыл бұрын
I think the price difference in the speakers is related to the cost of the magnets they use in them not the sound quality
@agreen182
@agreen182 4 жыл бұрын
This clearly took a lot of effort, and is extremely well done. Thank you! I bought an AC15 and replaced the greenback very easily, I'm surprised to find I prefer the normal channel sound of the Greenback but the top boost blue speaker sounds a lot better to me. Super interesting video!
@lifeofalex9199
@lifeofalex9199 4 жыл бұрын
By far the best speaker comparison video I’ve ever seen. Perfectly executed
@SuperZiggyCraft
@SuperZiggyCraft 4 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate how you kept playing while switching amps, so it was really easy to tell the difference. A lot of people take a long time to switch and talk in between, so you lose the sound of the amp in your head. Overall this was a nicely laid out comparison. I personally based on the video prefer the sound of the the Greenbacks.
@1mlb704
@1mlb704 6 жыл бұрын
To me the Greenbacks sound better for the thrashy stuff, but everything else sounds better with the Alnico Blues. This was very helpful, just ordered an AC30HW2X, thanks for the video!
@Calagamberr0
@Calagamberr0 4 жыл бұрын
Lol. Tell me you didn't
@Mojokiss
@Mojokiss 3 жыл бұрын
I just got the AC30HW2x with english greenbacks
@charlfrick8245
@charlfrick8245 5 жыл бұрын
The Blue went better with the top-boost channel, but in the normal channel the Greenback sounded great and less boxy than the Blue. Nice work Max.
@B3D5X
@B3D5X 2 жыл бұрын
That's what I thought too!
@atomicrocker
@atomicrocker 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly!
@kuhtipp
@kuhtipp 6 жыл бұрын
Some of the rare VERY GOOD comparison videos on youtube. Thx
@pfmusic1636
@pfmusic1636 4 жыл бұрын
I recently just bought a used Ac30 cc2 from the mid 2000’s. Came with alnico blues. I’ve tried a lot of vox amps of the years. This is the first one I actually like. I say give the blues a try. It’s the classic combo.
@euro9115
@euro9115 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for providing the comparison video. I have a buddy that keeps telling me to upgrade the greenies in my AC30C2 to blues. I realize Alnico magnets are superior but I really didn't hear 'that much' of difference to warrant the expenditure. I'm 65 and my ears just aren't what they used to be. I just bought an AC10C1 with a creamback (should be here this weekend) - looking forward to comparing the two amps. I know I'll be happy with the +/- 45 lb. weight reduction.
@manonbassguitar
@manonbassguitar 4 жыл бұрын
I don’t know of a better prepared & executed comparison video. Fantastic job!
@jimknopf0766
@jimknopf0766 3 жыл бұрын
I find both speaker types sound good in their own way. For clean, the blues imo are clearer and warmer, more organic. Greens for crunch and rock. Very interesting.
@sassulusmagnus
@sassulusmagnus 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the demo. There's a noticeable difference in the sound of these speakers when used in a traditional style 6 input non-master volume AC30 such as an AC30/6TB or TBX. The Blue has a more pronounced upper midrange response. Together with its lower power handling capacity, this allows the Blue to translate more of the amp's chiming sound at lower volumes. The Blue gets the "blizzard of nails" tone better than the G12M25 Greenback. The Blue is also audibly louder than the Greenback at lower settings. But the volume difference disappears as you turn the amp up, and the Greenback lends the amp a more focused sound as you push the volume. The Greenback never gets unattractively ragged sounding in the highs at loud settings as the Blue sometimes can. The two different speakers make a great sounding mismatched set with an AC30.
@cgavin1
@cgavin1 6 жыл бұрын
This! The blues lose all definition when pushed. Just turns to mush. Chime is nice but most modern Vox amps are way too icepick to begin with.
@markrichardson239
@markrichardson239 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking the time and effort to post this up as I am in speaker selection and these tests were a real help. --- Alnico..
@Failons89
@Failons89 4 жыл бұрын
Fucking hell this was the perfect comparison video!! Quick swap with no distractions, Fender and Gibson clean, then up to the highest gain, different generes, clear graphic help, all in 8 minutes!!!! Please do more
@brandonwagner9525
@brandonwagner9525 4 жыл бұрын
Same here. I've been pining over blues for my ac30/6tb ($550!!), but no longer. Someday it may get one for Christmas, but not this year or next. Thanks for the amazing video.
@plaidretinas
@plaidretinas 7 жыл бұрын
Was going to switch my greens to blues.....not anymore.
@pericabenic4413
@pericabenic4413 6 жыл бұрын
You have to get the VOX AC30 with the Alnico Blue speakers to believe it. I did not believe it until I tried.
@cgavin1
@cgavin1 5 жыл бұрын
Blues add a ton of midrange. Not what you want unless you play cleans or a really ice picky Tele imho. Humbuckers especially the neck on a LP can become impossibly boomy.
@thebendu33
@thebendu33 5 жыл бұрын
I prefer the clean tone of the bleu speakers, but the crunch is way better with the greens
@AnodyneHipsterInfluencer
@AnodyneHipsterInfluencer 4 жыл бұрын
@@thebendu33 The lead singer/2nd guitarist from Minus The Bear has one of each in his ac30hw2. I just bought one and a bought used alnico blue and I'm going to try it. Psyched.
@zachvargas122588
@zachvargas122588 4 жыл бұрын
You can tell the difference but it’s hard to hear a difference in this video but I have played both and I prefer and have blues in mine
@jonfcartwright479
@jonfcartwright479 6 жыл бұрын
Wow! Thank you for your research and that your doing this in English it’s helping me immensely with my decision to purchase one of these amp. Your insight, research, and use of common resources to find information is impressive. Tausend dank!
@davidmerlin3344
@davidmerlin3344 7 жыл бұрын
They both sound great. You cant go wrong with either speaker.
@tmuka
@tmuka 2 жыл бұрын
i preferred the more mid focused green tones in this excellent comparison. It did make me wonder if adjusting the tone stack to find the sweet spots for each speaker may have highlighted benefits overlooked with a flat tone stack. of course that's a lot more variables to track! thanks for the video
@stopdead1
@stopdead1 7 жыл бұрын
I have a Vox Ac30 with greens, but also thought I would prefer the Blues for a more authentic Vox sound, but now I am happy with my greens......
@psychedelic-rock
@psychedelic-rock 2 жыл бұрын
I choose greenback, more balanced. Blueback has more presence at crunch, especially top boost. Thx bro, excellent work.
@amritjanardhanan
@amritjanardhanan 4 жыл бұрын
First of all, amazing comparison! Here's what I heard: Blue's cleans were fuller w/ more mid range, less of a "nasal" tone. Liked them better than the greens. Blue's "crunch" tones on the non-top boost channel were really full, sounded almost like a Marshall! Green's crunch tone were not nasal, but retained top end-clarity better than the blues. I liked the blues better, but greens weren't bad. On the top boost channel, for some reason the Blue's had more treble, but also were not as clear - sounded more "vintage" whatever that means... Greens didn't have the filter effect or top end of the blues. I liked both, but they were very different. I noted more clarity with the condenser mic compared to dynamic mic. I liked the condenser better in every situation.
@jordanpratt3821
@jordanpratt3821 Жыл бұрын
Jesus I went through so many videos before I found this one.Had I found it first it would have been the only one I needed. Great job.
@allisonholmesmusic97
@allisonholmesmusic97 4 ай бұрын
Watching in 2024. Great video and one of the best comparisons I’ve ever seen and not just music gear but for any product. I recently bought an AC15C2 with Greenbacks and was curious how they would compare with the blues. While they do sound different each had their strengths but I wouldn’t say one was better than the other overall. I’m perfectly happy with the greenbacks and the blues don’t sound THAT much better to justify the price difference of upgrading
@tomgnau
@tomgnau 7 жыл бұрын
The narrator sounds like an evil professor plotting world domination before lunch.
@MaxSoloMusic
@MaxSoloMusic 7 жыл бұрын
T G haha, nice
@MrTwangstaable
@MrTwangstaable 5 жыл бұрын
You watch too much Hollywood propaganda, they've tricked your brain!
@pinkpenguinpoopoo
@pinkpenguinpoopoo 5 жыл бұрын
Your mind has been jew’d
@XxYngwiexX
@XxYngwiexX 5 жыл бұрын
an evil cat professor plotting world domination before lunch.
@ZoogieBAR
@ZoogieBAR 5 жыл бұрын
rubbish statement unless it was said in humor. the review was excellent.
@alarimbaud3155
@alarimbaud3155 5 жыл бұрын
It's interesting (to me) that so many people seem to prefer the greens for overdriven tones and the blues for clean tones. For me, it's the reverse. The greens seem to have a more open sound, and sound great clean but get a little muddy/too warm when overdriven; the blues sound more compressed, and thus stiff when clean, but really articulate and defined (not at all muddy) when overdriven. But yeah, amazing comparison video. Unexpectedly helpful!
@QerstyBass
@QerstyBass 5 жыл бұрын
I feel the same! The blues have a stonger midrange and not as wide treble response so i makes for awesome rock n roll overdrive tone. I feel it compliments the scooped character of the amp better too
@aitken1965
@aitken1965 4 жыл бұрын
This video earned a "subscribe"! EDIT (4 years later) I finally got an AC30C2X! I found a great used one and I jumped on it. This video still stands out as one of the best demonstrations of the amplifier’s capabilities.
@ix-Xafra
@ix-Xafra 5 жыл бұрын
The Greenbacks sounded richer to me. This video helped me decide on the speaker for an amp build.
@nickviolin1389
@nickviolin1389 11 ай бұрын
Brilliant, thank you. This is the best way to make a video of an A/B comparison. A few seconds of A then a few seconds of B. Our ears and our short term memories can process this.
@antonioalbares
@antonioalbares 5 жыл бұрын
Great comparison. THey are both great speakers. I use Greenbacks in all my amps. I actually like how dynamic alnico blue is, gives you that sweet clean tone but when it comes to gain, the woody rock sound of a greenback speaker is unbeatable. If you are lucky enough to have one of each, why not. In reality, there is no better or worst, it depends how you like your tone to b. I also like V30s for rhythm guitars.
@AllanEvansOfficial
@AllanEvansOfficial 3 жыл бұрын
Blues seem to have more clarity and a truer representation of the vox sound
@scottieroberson9875
@scottieroberson9875 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for taking the time to do a useful comparison.
@blackfishgaming7145
@blackfishgaming7145 4 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad mine has the blues.
@violentomar
@violentomar Жыл бұрын
A bit late to the video but something else to consider is the manufacture of the speakers (British made AC30/6 TBX Blues, early JMI Blues/ current Blues)...and how the speakers and amp break in over time. I have a 2001 TBX (blues), my bandmate has a mid 1990's TB (greens), both Korg Vox but made by Marshall in the UK (until they moved production to China and Vietnam in late 2003). Both amps are broken in and both sound amazing (especially when played at a volume where the tubes are being pushed so you have that natural breakup. Both take turns to shine in different conditions (certain pedals (especially a Crowther Hot Cake (IYKYK)), different songs live versus the recoding studio, when playing live with our bandmate with his Mesa Boogie Maverick Dual Rectifier (2×12 Combo) or when my Mesa Boogie Mark III is also being used. They each sit in different places in the mix and if played alone might sound a bit off but when played in a mix they take their turn to shine. Different tools for different jobs is really what it comes down to. I will say that the normal channel of each is excellent with pedals and if you're patching between the normal and brilliant (Top Boost) then you get a whole other gear to shift into. So versatile. I suggest that if you're going to get Blues then get them directly from Celestian in the UK or buy yourself a well maintained (not abused) UK made TBX. Those Amps are made like the vintage JMI's to be out of phase. Otherwise just go with the greens and swap out one speaker for a blue (so you have one of each) to give you a nice blend.
@nikolaisoerensen
@nikolaisoerensen 3 жыл бұрын
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@bojackhorseman5367
@bojackhorseman5367 6 жыл бұрын
Great comparison - I have a pair of JMI era AC30s, one which has non-original Greenbacks (serial number dates them to late 1969 - so those are post-JMI, probably came from a Marshall cab or something), and another with the original blues. This is the same kind of difference that I hear, really - the one with blues has a much wider spectrum of sound but with quite a soft, smooth character to how it projects the sound, the top end is very sweet, the bass is kinda loose but not in a muddy/flabby way. By contrast, the one with greenbacks has a kind of dirtier quality to the sound, much more direct with a more focused and punchy midrange character. Both sound glorious, though. It really depends whether you want the more angelic, airy sound of the blues, or the more aggressive, focused sound of the greenbacks, as to which speakers you should go for. I love both, but for different things.
@thromboid
@thromboid 7 жыл бұрын
Fantastic analysis of both tone and price! To me, the Blue sounded '60s, and the Greenbacks more '70s, with overdrive bringing out the differences. I'm not sure I'd pay the premium for the Blues, but they clearly have their place. Vielen Dank!
@Mordecai06
@Mordecai06 7 жыл бұрын
Both great, BLue is truer to the vintage Vox tone even you could say with some similarity to the Fender Tweed Deluxe and greenbakcs sound more like Marshall JTM, but it all depends on what you want.
@littleglimmer2325
@littleglimmer2325 7 жыл бұрын
Good vid. I'm not looking to drop a fortune on blues now. While there may be small differences in A-B comparisons (and personal preferences),I always remember that when gigging in a band with other instruments, vocals and audience - nobody's going to hear the subtleties of £000's spent on speakers that close in sound.
@mathieufernandez7698
@mathieufernandez7698 4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video. Intelligently put together, very complete and revealing of the tonal difference. Wunderbar my friend !
@MaxSoloMusic
@MaxSoloMusic 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you kindly!
@buska100
@buska100 7 жыл бұрын
Great Vid Mate. Both sound Great in different ways, Blues for Me
@MarkPritchardGuitar
@MarkPritchardGuitar 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent comparison, nicely done. Blues for the cleans and Greenback for the dirt.
@stevecomins7837
@stevecomins7837 Жыл бұрын
After playing a Gibson 345 for 10 years, I picked up a Tele and was amazed I could play lower register melody that still cut through the band. If you like that, pick Alnico-Blue.
@adanramirez1663
@adanramirez1663 2 ай бұрын
This videos has been made in such a perfect way, i really loved it. Even tough i do understand why Alnico Blues are loved, i prefer to stay with Greenbacks, for me does not support the expensive price.
@39MercFlathead
@39MercFlathead 5 жыл бұрын
This was a real comparison that could be used. I could hear only a slight difference with some combinations and I have been playing for 55 years. Maybe my ears are shot, but if I can't hear a lot of difference I suspect that most people an audience can't either. I don't know about others, but my audiences aren't composed of professional musicians, a few maybe, but not the majority of the people. Overall, it doesn't sound enough different to be worth the price. I have been considering a Vox amp and I think I will stick with the greenbacks. I never thought I would say that.
@jensenbell
@jensenbell 7 жыл бұрын
I love greenbacks for Marshall JTM-45 circuits. But with an AC30, the Greenbacks sound like you threw a blanket over the cabinet (until you get to the very high gain, then you hear why the greens are better for Marshalls). All the stock Vox amps come with Blue Speakers made in China. So the best deal is to buy separate UK/English Blue Alnico Speakers (lightly used if possible to have them broken in) for a better value and better speakers (with even more complexity to the mids than you hear with these Chinese units). Sell the Chinese Greenbacks, or keep them as backups... or for your next Marshall. GREAT test video! You can really hear the differences.
@Sonnivate
@Sonnivate 5 жыл бұрын
The key takeaway from this should be tone is more than the amp: its also the Mic, pedals, and guitar. Good stuff. Personally, I love the greens with a condenser but the blues certainly shined on a 57!
@theraditz
@theraditz 7 жыл бұрын
I prefer the blue ones, although I like how the greenback sounds on this video too.
@jensimpgaard548
@jensimpgaard548 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Max Solo, Super pro job ... many could learn a few things here! Thx /Jens
@jagjet9153
@jagjet9153 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent and fair test ! the only trouble is the quality of your effort is defeated by a wide range of limitations. 2 inch Computer speakers, poor sound cards, tone stacks in sound cards, well I could go on but I think the answer is obvious.....This is in the ear of the live buyer. Having heard the amps live, I can tell you there are subtle but important differences. Can you hear the difference in tone of a Vox amp played on 120/60 AC versus 234.0 volts at 50 cycles/second. That makes a huge difference. To 99 people in a hundred there will only be a perceived difference, not a measurable one on an oscilloscope. In all fairness the riffs played were close but not identical in all variations. A tone generator would have been a better comparison.
@ZoogieBAR
@ZoogieBAR 6 жыл бұрын
Brilliant video editing skills! Great production. The Blues have more upper midrange punch and the Greens are slightly more "scooped".
@danielkelley3439
@danielkelley3439 4 жыл бұрын
Really to truly show the difference amp needs to turned up enough to push the speakers, That's where the difference is. I have both of the speakers in my AC30. The blue really shines and becomes magical when pushed, the green has a great Marshallish tone when pushed. Also are these speakers broke in? Makes a big difference..there's reasons why the blue is so regarded and expensive but worth it..with amp volume on 1 or 2 can no way show what these speakers can do..
@mskcrc
@mskcrc 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. The Blue is so smooth when cranked up. The ceramic Greenback gets grainy and harsh. Sounds much better than the old Jensens that were in the CC series, but nothing compared to a legit Alnico Blue. The X series comes with a cheap "package for resale" version of the Blue, made with Chinese cones.
@richardmiller191
@richardmiller191 5 жыл бұрын
This is an excellent video. Switching from one speaker in an instant playing the same riffs made it easy to tell the difference. And showing at the top all thru the video made it so you can go to any spot in the vid and know what your hearing. Thanks for posting. So many people swear by the Alnicos but the difference to my ears is minimal and not worth paying for.
@alonsog3r
@alonsog3r 3 жыл бұрын
Really well made comparison! Congrats!
@jeffkung5088
@jeffkung5088 3 жыл бұрын
The blue is what I consider the classic VOX sound. Especially with single coils. It was pretty apparent in this video. Great work!
@jeffkung5088
@jeffkung5088 3 жыл бұрын
edit. the green with high gains was better to my ears tho...
@2yugen2
@2yugen2 7 жыл бұрын
Very good comparison video.
@janbrenner9488
@janbrenner9488 6 жыл бұрын
For the most of the common players greeenback will fit. Thank your for this video, I like your clear empiric approach. Well done, you deserve a lot more subscribers!
@redrum22
@redrum22 2 жыл бұрын
Almost bought an alnico blue model. Thank you for this video
@kirkbolas4985
@kirkbolas4985 4 жыл бұрын
For clean, crunch and moderate distortion it’s Alnico Blue for the win?
@SamuelOceanMusic
@SamuelOceanMusic 7 жыл бұрын
Excellent demo! I have both an AC30C2x (Alnico Blues) and a recently acquired AC15HW1 (Green Back). I'm loving the mid-range crunch I get from the GB on the AC15 but after seeing this video I think I might swap it out for one of the Alnico Blues on the AC30 and see what happens. Thanks again! Cheers.
@gerardootero4364
@gerardootero4364 5 жыл бұрын
Samuel Ocea How did it go?
@mrmanch204
@mrmanch204 6 жыл бұрын
To my ears the difference was not enough that could not be tweaked by the tone stack. Thanks for the work, you presented the case perfectly.
@DisruptivePhoto
@DisruptivePhoto 25 күн бұрын
Very good info and demo of the two, thank you.
@davidbarlow431
@davidbarlow431 4 жыл бұрын
I recently bought an AC15 with greenback. I noticed then that it was cheaper to buy the greenback amp and purchase a blue speaker seperately, plus you have a spare greenback to keep or sell. I won't be swapping out my greenback, I think it's different but not better or worse, and I find it a bit warmer which I prefer. Most important fact with the blue that's not mentioned here, is that it is more efficient and noticeably louder if you need the extra volume.
@mskcrc
@mskcrc 3 жыл бұрын
Use an Alnico Gold if you want it to be warmer. It handles power better and doesn't drive as fast.
@jurgengosch1905
@jurgengosch1905 5 жыл бұрын
That was excellent. Thank you! Both speakers sound great in their own way.
@milwaukeebrewhouse
@milwaukeebrewhouse 5 жыл бұрын
I bought the AC30 with greenbacks. The blue are better for some things and not for others. Spent the savings on pedals.
@Guttalaser
@Guttalaser 2 жыл бұрын
Alnico all the life! More "umphf" and even translate better the amp channels change... i mean... when you switch from normal to crunch and then to top-boost... the Greenback tends to enphatize the lows (sounding more like the Alnico normal and crunch)... while the Alnico push better the top-ends. So to me the Alnico are more "hi-fi" in waht the amp really do... AND... well... if you want THAT "RAMP" in the transients attacks (if you know what i mean... about Mr. May!)... well ... so Alnico Blue is the way to go! Great... really great video BTW Man!
@agusg.t.8950
@agusg.t.8950 7 жыл бұрын
Loved the greenback
@misstress1928
@misstress1928 5 жыл бұрын
Now I want a 2x12 cab with both speakers even more.
@Po1itica11yNcorrect
@Po1itica11yNcorrect 4 жыл бұрын
If I were to close my eyes I'd swear the entire video was made with one amp. That's how close the sounds were to my ears. I was leaning towards the blue in an ac15c1 but I may juat save the $200 and get an extra couple of pedals instead.
@marcoscavagnaro5466
@marcoscavagnaro5466 7 жыл бұрын
Great video, you really helped me. Gotta get a '03 english with greenbacks!
@MaxSoloMusic
@MaxSoloMusic 7 жыл бұрын
Mike Litoris Thanks for feedback!
@SquishMe
@SquishMe 2 жыл бұрын
wow, this might be the best comparison video ever, please make more
@sybamunki
@sybamunki 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve owned an AC15 GB and AC30 AB. What struck me with the blues is that the sound is very immediate and note articulation really clear. Both amps also need to be turned up to a sweet spot to open up. The 30 takes your ears off!
@Dressagevids
@Dressagevids 4 жыл бұрын
Grea Comparison...thanks for taking the time to make this......Blue just edges it for me
@guitareMTL
@guitareMTL 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! It shows how much the mic choice colors the sound, much more than the different speakers actually.
@BigfootPreston
@BigfootPreston 4 жыл бұрын
Funny that I have expected more chime from the Blue speakers but the Greens bite more. I would put it this way: Blues = more presence, more rounded sound, Greens = more bite, more midrange. Excelent video, now it shows clearly that the Blues don't have more bite, maybe a tad much top end, bu less mids. Greens are equally good alternative for Vox amps.
@ayibeden
@ayibeden 4 жыл бұрын
Wow dude this is an awesome vid. I liked them both but eyes closed, same settings, blue sounds like a Marshall to my ears. And I would prefer Greens in the mix.
@thorpypoo
@thorpypoo 3 жыл бұрын
It's highly logical actually. It's basic economics. When you buy the amp you buy the amp and not just the speaker. The market value of the amplifier is increased more by adding the Alnico Blue than just the speaker itself. Or another way to look at it, the amp adds value to the speaker.
@robcobi
@robcobi 6 жыл бұрын
I use a 2x12 Vox Cab with Greenbacks with my JTM45 and it sounds amazing. I'm getting a gold when I get around to it for one of my 1x12 cabs. The Greens sound better with distortion IMO while the blue (gold in my case) is great for those chimey cleans.
@corban48
@corban48 5 жыл бұрын
Such a good demo, thanks! Probably gonna go with the greens!
@sorazmasterofdoom
@sorazmasterofdoom Жыл бұрын
Awesome demo, thanks! I love the Alnico speakers for cleans, but with any gain the Greenback speakers win.
@nickhadjirallis4888
@nickhadjirallis4888 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent, well thought out comparison video. I prefer the Greens. I'm going to check out any other videos you have done now.
@Shredster3000
@Shredster3000 6 жыл бұрын
I have one blue and one green in my ac30cc2 and I want to put another blue in. The greens are good, but a little too warm bc I wanted the classic clean jangle. I think there's more character with the blues, both when clean or crunched. The green isn't a bad speaker it just makes me want a little more expression/color than what it delivers.
@dez1989
@dez1989 3 жыл бұрын
I've got a VOX AC-15 with a Celestion Alnico blue. I've also got a VOX AC-30 with 2 Celestion Greenbacks. Last I've got a VOX AC-50 head. I run a 4x12 cab with Celestion Vintage 30's and another 4x12 cab with 2 Celestion Creambacks and 2 Celestion 70'th anniversary speakers. Vintage 30's sound good for other amps but to me they don't sound as good running through the Vox. They don't sound bad, they just don't sound as good as the other Celestion speakers.
@NotMarkKnopfler
@NotMarkKnopfler 6 ай бұрын
Thanks. Saved me a load of money. There is not enough difference to justify the extra cost IMO. It's nothing that you couldn't do with the tone controls.
@mantashaft
@mantashaft Жыл бұрын
I hear the difference, but in many ways it's simply choosing a color you like better... both are good Although I think would lean blues for cleans and genres other than metal.
@Chris-cf2kp
@Chris-cf2kp 3 жыл бұрын
I've got an ac30 with greens. The blue's have a bit more treble to my ears than the greens but I like them both, the cleans on greens with the right tubes and dialed in are very clear and warm. If you weren't comparing them I don't think most people would be able to even tell the difference without looking for it consciously though. What's important for these large amps is how they sound in a mix, because that's where they're most likely to be used, with a band and other instruments. I think the blues might cut through better but who knows. Greens have served me well in loud band settings without anyone even bringing it up lol so I'd say anyone will be just fine with greens- get blues if you have the budget. Great vid btw.
@originaljamtracks
@originaljamtracks 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, sets a new standard for how it should be done. Thank you! I think Greens would be me preference after watching.
@LiamJConnolly
@LiamJConnolly 2 жыл бұрын
I have one of each in my AC30 and it sounds great.
@UnboundOdysseus
@UnboundOdysseus 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent comparison video. Both speakers sounded excellent. I think the Greenbacks were more to my liking though. Subscribed. Cheers from Ontario, Canada.
@guitaryuan
@guitaryuan 5 жыл бұрын
I like the Greenback more and thank you for upload this video.
@promospray
@promospray 6 жыл бұрын
Blue seems to be more focused on the mids, but Green is more trebly and harshy and it could help to cut through the mix. But i prefer the sound of Blue.
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