I thought so myself

You can completely delete the part “for the safety of the animal ", because most somewhat bigger saltwater fish do not live long in captivity, and also often show severe body deformations within weeks of captivity… But even thought they are deformed have pain, begin to root while still living, they are still on display and just pumped full of antibiotics...

No they lose money because they pay so much for the animal only for it to last a few months

​@@micah2936doubtful they lost money. Keeping a great white in captivity brings lots of people in to the aquariums that wouldn't necessarily go in the first place so they make a bunch of money.

If they cared about the well-being of the fish they wouldn’t have even attempted this knowing full well what a difficult process it would be. Should not have even attempted unless they were sure of a method that wouldn’t harm the animal. Even still they should have quit when the first shark died.

Why do y’all have to find out everything !?? Leave animals be !!! How would you like if someone prodded and poked at you?

​@@sahardavesi had a really good message in response to rude opinion, but it didn't save so I'm going to be way briefer and hope you understand. The ocean is an ecosystem with everything playing a vital role. And there are ecosystems everywhere on earth. They are all interconnected. Sharks are an apex predator. Anything that drastically effects them will affect all the other parts in that ecosystem all the way down. This in turn will affect other ecosystems, which would have a potentially catastrophic effect on you and your family. Using that logic, it's important to understand their behaviors and what can cause problems in order to react appropriately if there are drastic changes in behaviors or numbers of great white sharks. Your question of why is not very complicated if you think about it. Ecosystems are incredible delicate and the balance needs to maintained. So yes, it is important to study them. Hope that helps.

@@sahardaves I fully appreciate your feelings on the matter. And if every human being on the planet felt the same sort of respect for every animal, then we probably wouldn't need to research as much. But that isn't the case. For generations, humans feared, hated, and didn't value animals as sentient beings. Studying then shed light on the fact that they are beautiful and important, and not mindless monsters. Sharing these discoveries have done a great deal to help change hearts and minds to improve conservation efforts. Far more effectively than simply pleading with people to understand. Thankfully, the more we learn, the more we try to improve husbandry (the care of animals in captivity) efforts. I'm the case of the white sharks, since it was determined that they couldn't be kept happy/healthy, the program was ended, because the people involved do care. But they learned a lot to benefit the species as a whole, and to work towards conversation for the entire ecosystem. So keep advocating for animal welfare! But I also hope you can understand the overall benefits of research, and that those involved are always striving to do better.

@@mckaylapaddock9319- research can and does happen in the ocean. So what was learned by capture these precious lives ? They died for nothing … 😢😢😢

@@sahardaves I think you’re overreacting not dramatically, but I do understand the dilemma here but there are people who wanna know and educate themselves more just because you don’t leave your front doorstep doesn’t mean the whole world should follow as you live and I mean that in a respectful way ma’am, education has a price

you like the only person who gave a good legit answer on why they cant be kept in captivity for long ... THANK YOU!!!

It's been confirmed that they detect (and produce?) electromagnetic field, last time i checked.

This is so interesting!! Thank you!! This video didn't explain anything I didn't know already lol. But THIS is news to me!

That's very interesting. Never knew sharks could detect emf radiation

Strange I’ve never met anyone with a degree in marine biology yet suddenly everyone in the comment sections appears to have one

Yes the school children spend millions a year buying stuffed animals in there non profit store located on the way out! Good lesson in commercialize what an education they are getting!

with all that education they have you’d think they wouldn’t try to imprison a 15ft fish that needs to constantly be swimming in order to breathe…

Interesting

I went there on a school trip back in 03. It was awesome! Santa Maria Bonita School Dostrict was great with their field trips. They also took us to Hearst Castle.

So? Who cares if its research or not, either they have a shark on display or not

We don't need to put any

I think zoos (and probably aquariums) have stopped being like animal prisons and are now more focused on preservation.

​@@bobolobocus333nope absolutely not

​@@yanikkendlerask zoo keepers from responsible zoos (which is most of them). Modern zoos are first and foremost rehabilitation and research centers. They are secondly entertainment areas, and even then, a lot of animals aren't on display. People just love to be holier than thou and know more than zoologists and decades long experienced researchers.

@@lastsong7159 ​ I dont know where you get that from. It is next to impossible to study imprisoned animals since their behavior is wildly different from actual wildlife. This results in missunderstandings like the alpha wolve . This issue is even worse with intelligent social creatures (especially those that travel huge distances) Orcas for example are known to get suicidal in captivity since they miss their family and suffer from boredom so they drown themselves. There is centers that do actually research that have similar enclosures like the ape initiative but those are donation funded and do not allow random visitors. Zoos are a terrible enviroment for research or protection, actuall research sites like tamandua are based in huge protected areas andrelease their animals into the wild again. I have not heard of any zoo that has the primary objective of helping animals(feel free to link it to me if there is one) and I think that would be a paradox. To anyone reading this that wants to help consider donating to missionerde, wilderness-international, any of the ones above or similar organisations.

Good to know, sometimes it's just more than what appears on the surface

​@@joel3683Like a dorsal fin?

​@@johnburke6332 haha!! I see what you did there good sir!! 😂😂😂

Still not ok. How can you accurately study them in an environment that is foreign to them?

@@PsychoKupcake That IS one of the reasons they stopped. Some animals can be held with little adverse affect, but great whites simply cannot. They learned all they could from those that were kept in captivity, including that they cannot be kept in captivity. All research on great whites is now carried out in the wild.

Very very cool!!

Did she tell you about the otters? One of them is one of the oldest ever

@@kangaroot_As a Dougdoug viewer, I stan Rosa.

@@IzameBirb finally someone gets what i mean

I went there as well

@@kangaroot_or the trans movement?

This sounds like a trap and I don’t believe you’re not a whale shark.

​@@artsyidiot4754What are you, a krill?

shark supremacy

Shark typing this up hoping I’ll fall for it and be his next meal

remoras do this with other sharks too, great whites for example so the logic doesn’t make sense on just because fish hitch rides with whale sharks = chill and extremely friendly. they are chill and friendly but wrong reasoning

Hence they released it

You ever heard of a zoo

Tell that to Harvey weinstein he's still going

than why is human trafficking so successful?

​@@jamese9329 zoos don't have sharks

Lolol genuinely love the lil story at the end of your comment 😂

Better for it to be in your path, than to find yourself in it's.

This is very hilarious and educational at the same time. Thanks❤😂😂

Makes sense to me

They are an apex predator and they definately change alter the behavior of those around them. It's very cool to watch. Happens on a small scale too, introduce a larger animal into the ecosystem and all the others adjust around it.

See; Orca.

That’s exactly how I feel about Sea World n different places having Orcas/Killer Whales in such small pools like they are. 😢😔😪

Baby Shark?

I'm the same honestly

Same as Ukranians. Freedom or death but unfortunately they will face death.

And Orcas are freedom or murder. Mammal vibes

Just like New Hampshire lol

Its not like its a choice, I'm sure it would choose life in a tank over death if it could.

They aren't breeding more orcas nor are they capturing more. The last few remaining, most of which were born in captivity and have never seen the ocean and its inhabitants (hence why they wouldn't survive in one) are all that will ever be in display

It's very profitable to keep torturing them.

monterey bay aquarium doesn't have orcas

​@Teeftlis they are talking about more than Monterey Bay. Just orcas in general

@javen43 it's a fair thing for them to point out, but their wording was ambiguous

Lol

No it's not that's a glorious death it's unfortunate that most of these animals get imprisoned by these worthless parasites some people are just for destruction. I hate to see these animals trapped in their greedy hands

​@@josephhamsuckerfish and shark parasites arent sentient stop taking drugs

You’re gonna love to hear that over 100 million a year are killed in fishing nets.

At least they stopped doing it. Some animals are simply meant to be free and nothing else.

Incorrect; no living Great White...

What about dogs. They are Captive and cant really live a good life without humans do to the fact they were breed for a Long time to be pets. In a Way thats the same with zoos most of Them treat the animals good and are non profit. Atleast in th western world. Now most animals in zoos have been raised and breed there on in a diffrent zoo. So they have never know anything related to surviving. Sure some Might be able to adapt Quick if released. Most wont tho. So its better to keep Them in the zoos in other to be able to teach kids about Them. And among other things.

she obviously means wild and non-domesticated.

On that scale, keeping them in a large tank is like telling a human swimmer to practice for the Olympics in a bathtub.

Honestly, compared to those gigantic distances an aquarium, even the biggest tank possible, is like shoving a hamster in a shoe box for like toddler shoes

It is truly sad 🥲.

​@@michellebyrom6551more like a bowl of water

​@@tezzanoia That's a bad example. People do keep hamsters in small spaces. I don't know what kind of hamster cages you've seen, but most aren't very big.

Zoos save nothing from extinction, genepool is too small; that's the last straw beside 'education' they hold and we should take that from them

Gene bank for them. Preserved tissue, genomic sequencing, and eventual cloning if they ever vanish.

But seeing that sharks existed for that long, I'm not afraid for them. They know how to surf evolution for millions of years.

@@arminxvs3372 But humans have the ability to completely negate evolution. In less than 100 years, we killed more than 90% of the whales on the planet. Evolution takes millions of years.

@@arminxvs3372 But they never encountered humans before, which actively hunted and killed them Of course it's still likely that some species of shark will inevitably survive for many millions of years to come, but particular species like great whites may not be so lucky

who cares about some sharks health LOL

@@trader2137 people with empathy

It’s a fish, nothing human about it. They don’t understand or feel pain the way week as humans EMOTIONALLY do.

@@markelman198what does physical pain and suffering have to do with emotions

The ocean is filling up with plastic how long until the waters are uninhabitable

​@fudgyboo I've had a totally opposite conversation recently, in that seeing a video of something doesn't nearly do the subject matter justice. Doesn't matter if it's extreme weather events, disasters, large animals, national parks with beautiful vistas etc. It really just hits different when you're there experiencing the moment in person rather than sitting behind a screen, but one thing to always keep in mind is safety while out in nature. It's definitely not good to keep things in captivity, but seeing things in person is something you appreciate more when you actually see it and were there.

​@@fudgybooMBARI (monterey bay area research institue) actually did a ton of work with the great whites. A lot of what we know today about their mating paterns and the ecology of the open ocean as a whole was because of the great whites brought into captivity. You can learn a lot about any ecosystem by studing its top predators, from chemical content and temperature shifts. Additionally the newer ones werent captured for display but because they had health issues and needed treatment or because they were posing safety risks and were captured as an alternative to just killing them. As for what you could learn from them that way vs a book or video honestly a lot. Presentation matters. The level of connectivity and engagement the dosents at the aquarium created was astounding. Its not just about how much you can learn, but how invested you can get people to learn. I remember seeing adults swarm the aides asking questions about diet, migration patterns and even growth rates. Laat time i was there i literally spent 20 minutes talking to one of the demonstrators after a video just asking questions. Everyone ive met from MBARI has been a genuinely passionate person who cares about the oceans ecosystems and spreading awareness. And that made a huge impact. While I agree that in a perfect world I'd much rather the sharks had been healthy enough to have remained free you cant discount the sheer amount of awareness that comes with the notority of having a great white on display. All in all I was able to see 3 of the whites they had and those memories still encourage me to visit every couple of years and help with local projects and donate to preservation efforts.

​@@fudgybooits not that deep lil bro...

​@fudgyboo I mean, it's not like there's thriving industries built from going to see things in person. The most ironic example BEING a zoo or an aquarium. Who wants to see animals in person when you could just stare at your phone? Why visit an Arboretum or a Botanical Garden when you could just look at a book, right? Why go anywhere or do ANYTHING when a computer screen is clearly just as good?

Agree with OP (as one of the generations of kids that got to see one of the sharks in Monterey). Seeing these guys in their own habitat is a better experience and hopefully there's some easily-accessible scuba diving training to help make it easier for people to see sharks (or, at least, ways to go on a ship to spot them).

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They’ve still occasionally got captive great white, but they’re always juveniles, from what I understand usually unhealthy ones caught initially for tagging, and they’re released after one season of stay.

I think that's pretty much every creature.

​@@pakde8002 Not really. Many small, relatively sedentary animals are able to have much better quality of life in captivity than they would in the wild, and even many large animals can do well in captivity in the right circumstances. Even beyond that, many individual animals would have much better quality of life in captivity than they would in the wild: domesticated animals, birds that have imprinted on humans, and bears that have learned that garbage cans are high quality food sources are all not likely to survive well in the wild, and live better/longer lives in captivity.

​@@jessehunter362small fish maybe even small sharks and small ram fish like the tanks a lot

@@timohara7717 Yeah, given that they’re big enough. All about the size and the requirements of the animals in question.

Totally agree with you, this concept applies to Orcas as well. Orcas do just as bad as Great White Sharks in captivity. Both Orcas and Great White Sharks belong in the open ocean where they can thrive.

The reason these sharks were kept in captivity was for research purposes to aid in conservation efforts, not for fun. They were released when they started getting stressed and that’s why there hasn’t been another one ever since then.

What’s “harm?” They can’t survive or they don’t like the cage? If it poses a health risk to the animals then yes they shouldn’t be captured because it would only be temporary and there’s little reason to do that. But if it just doesn’t like the cage that’s not necessarily a problem. I’m sure a lot of animals would like to be free in the wild. But it doesn’t matter because they don’t serve any greater purpose than to benefit us. If it serves us more to have them in a zoo than to be in the wild, then that’s better.

Yes, PETA liberalism screaming free all animals is devoid of logic and reason. ​@@waccness449

It's called protecting wild-life and maintaining bio-diversity. These are serious concerns for intelligent people. Cows and pigs were not on the endangered species list last time I looked. But enjoy your tofu if that's your thing....... 🤗

The sharks were being researched to strengthen conservation efforts. This is a vital part of protecting wildlife and promoting biodiversity. You can't protect a species without knowing about it.

Did that answer your question ?

It has rosa

​@@ewanb1086 making it the superior aquarium by far, despite it's flaws

I loved the Jellyfish exhibit! Such fascinating elegance & beauty! It was such a beautiful aquarium. One of the best!

Too little too late ....😓😓

glad they haven’t tried it again. Honestly every creature deserves the freedom to go wherever they please, that’s why i’m against TRUMPS WALL! not trump 2024 let’s go

I saw it!

@@RedScrolls By creature i hope you mean actual animals 💀

@@RedScrollsnow im not American and i cant see no reason to talk politics but i do know that Wall was to stop illegal immigration and to keep immigration within the laws that excist

This was the comment I was hoping to find. Thank you. They should have included that information, they lead it to sound like it was related to the stay in captivity, when in reality it was an unrelated incident from my understanding.

True, that hurts overall credibility

Source?

@@MrDanny1145 KZfaq doesn’t allow external links but you can just google Monterey Bay White Shark Aquarium program and you’ll get it all. There’s also a former employee of the aquarium in these comments, and everything they say correlates with what you can look up.

​@@MrDanny1145 Too lazy to use Google?

You say that, but hunting them to extinction would probably be pretty easy if people got the go-ahead.

@@PhoenicopterusR no as in you can’t keep them in captivity but yeah extinction for sharks is gonna happen soon.

@@obolstudios5154 no I understood what you meant, it's just not entirely true. We get what we want, one way or another.

@@PhoenicopterusR yea true just not in our time probably in the future will have more room in tanks for great white sharks or something like that.

"I was a volunteer for the Monterrey Bay aquarium and have a degree in marine biology. The reason they started keeping white sharks are for a research project. There's still a lot we don't know about great whites and sharks in general, but learning more helps us promote conversation efforts." - @mckaylapaddock9319

The first was in like the 60s bud..

@@AshesAshesNok it was the first one Monterey aquarium had and the one that was kept the longest

Rosa is the GOAT

@@smitethecanlord facts

Rosa's great

Rosa for the win

@@chickenhutgaming2959 its Rosa's birthdays soon 🥳

The last one was killed. The aquarium was in no way involved

You can educate without putting them in captivity. Most learning is done without real life examples. It's purely for entertainment. And those animals are endangered because of human activity (climate change and hunting) so how about people focus on fixing that instead? We're destroying biodiversity mainly because of ridiculously selfish lifestyle choices and then argue that the way to put a tiny bandaid on it is to put a few animals behind bars?

@@Maria-EUanimals are safer in zoos. They have nobody there to hunt them and they can live a very long time in captivity.

@@f40carz93 Do you really think that living in a prison, makes you live a happier life? Every day for many many decades always the same walls, always the same small boring activitys? And always loud noises everywhere? Most animals show sevire mental problems because of it, and even begin hurting themselfs...

​@@m_liesyea but theres no turning back its like vault life

​@@m_lies many animals don't, they are not same as humans so as long as they are fed and protected they will be happy

They shouldn’t capture them from the wild but I think most of the animals are bred into that environment in zoos

Most zoos are animal sanctuarys

Agreed. Once the holograms look real, they need to be the ONLY way to see IRL animals in captivity. Edit: aside from animal sanctuaries where the animals are unable to be in the wild for whatever reason/.

For most species that are rather sedentary in the sense they don’t like moving much and are happy to live in their little reef Hoek most of their lives then I don’t see a problem with that… it’s win win… we get to preserver and observe a fish while it doesn’t have to worry about being gobbled up and has free meals everyday. For a fish like GW they have huge migration patterns and have literally been recorded swimming from South Africa to Austrelia… no not gonna fit

@@kimiko_ella3092unfortunately you want to release them to their natural habitat and that’s great but maybe the main focus should be to make sure said habitat is still there and healthy… can’t say that for most zoo animals so we really got our priority mixed… idk which would be sadder to have no other animals to share this planet with or the only « wild » animals our children will se are either in a zoo or museum for the most part

I think the people working there would have realized this considering most of the people researching probably have hard bachelors or masters degrees.

@@YeeterMcBeater470 that was a joke

​@@YeeterMcBeater470It's a joke

@@YeeterMcBeater470 Although we have people with high degree of education, health care has been neglected. People (and fishes) aren't getting their basic medical needs taken care of, because politicians think other stuff are more important than health.

@@TheArchanaRaj yes, but it's also the reflection of the lack of health care in the world.

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They don't really deserve wilderness, it's literally the only thing they can have.

But I want to grandstand about an issue I have no knowledge of!!! 😡 It makes me feel morally superior 🙏

The gw in this case were not rescued ones

@@samkon3148I hate how right you are

White shark is the type of shark they are. Great whites do poorly in human care but so do other white sharks

Sure you can. I used to keep pet moths in a box with leaves and grass. They never lasted through the night tho.

I would consider earth as nature lock in a sphere.

Yea you can

Think of earth as the box. What we perceive as nature is kept here on earth. All that doesn’t apply in outer space, unless same circumstances we have here are replicated on another planet.

You can actually.