Who's really using up the water in the American West?

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Hint: water scarcity in the Western US has more to do with our diets than our lawns.
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The Western United States is currently battling the most severe drought in thousands of years. A mix of bad water management policies and manmade climate change has created a situation where water supplies in Western reservoirs are so low, states are being forced to cut their water use.
It’s not hard to find media coverage that focuses on the excesses of residential water use: long showers, swimming pools, lawn watering, at-home car washes. Or in the business sector, like irrigating golf courses or pumping water into hotel fountains in Las Vegas.
But when a team of researchers looked at water use in the West, they uncovered a very different story about where most Western water goes. Their findings may hold the solution to dwindling water supplies in the West.
Check out the video above to learn more, and take a look at the study that this story is centered on: core.ac.uk/download/pdf/32306...
Lead study author Brian Richter wrote this post on common misconceptions about water scarcity:
www.sustainablewaters.org/hey...
For Vox coverage on water management policies on the Colorado River, which we weren’t able to cover in this story:
www.vox.com/2022/9/23/2335709...
For coverage on just how bad the current drought is: www.nytimes.com/2022/02/14/cl...
For more coverage of the rotational fallowing program in the Palo Verde district in California: www.latimes.com/environment/s...
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@Vox
@Vox Жыл бұрын
Read about the Colorado river’s drought crisis: how bad can it get; what communities, lives, and species are at stake if the river keeps drying up; what’s within our power to change; and what innovations and adaptations are we embracing to save ourselves. bit.ly/3N4C8dV
@80spodcastchannel
@80spodcastchannel Жыл бұрын
how about we don't..
@traceymarshall5886
@traceymarshall5886 Жыл бұрын
Should go vegan
@mammocas
@mammocas Жыл бұрын
I live in Colorado and 95% of my residential water bill goes towards watering my lawn, which is required by the HOA. It's ridiculous. There should be city regulations in place to make developers use native drought resistant landscaping and avoid this massive waste.
@RishabhGKoenigseggRegera
@RishabhGKoenigseggRegera Жыл бұрын
You're legally forced to water your lawn and pay for it?
@mammocas
@mammocas Жыл бұрын
@@RishabhGKoenigseggRegera Yep. HOAs can put in place all sorts of ridiculous 'laws'. When you buy a house you agree to it, in this case, keep the front and backyards according to 'community standards'. I wanted to avoid that, but unfortunately there were barely any non-HOA properties on the market in my area when I bought.
@Sammyblackout
@Sammyblackout Жыл бұрын
@@mammocas that's actually wild! I'd be curious to reach out to an agency or org that focuses on the environment to see if there is a work around on it. I know in my state, some folks make their yards "urban prairies" and get designated as such to get around those rules. It's wild that a group of people wanting an aesthetically pleasing community can decide that individual home owners have to contribute THAT much financially because of it. My heart and wallet feel for you.
@mammocas
@mammocas Жыл бұрын
@@Sammyblackout It's possible to submit a proposal to the HOA to change the existing lawn into a different kind of landscaping, subject to approval of course. Oh and it must come from a professional company, no option to do it yourself. It's something I've been considering, but it also means investing several thousand dollars at once to re-do all the landscaping.
@taoliu3949
@taoliu3949 Жыл бұрын
Work with your neighbors and try to organize and advocate for change. Get enough people to agree with you and you can change the HOA bylaws.
@MikeDawson1
@MikeDawson1 Жыл бұрын
whoever's idea it was to do the little diorama pieces instead of an animation, and to whoever made them - excellent work
@Jaysin999
@Jaysin999 Жыл бұрын
It was a lovely visual for visual learners
@eyevou
@eyevou Жыл бұрын
it's cheaper and uses less water.
@YourCapyBruv_do_u_rmbr_3Dpipes
@YourCapyBruv_do_u_rmbr_3Dpipes Жыл бұрын
Dioramas rule lol I used to have so much fun making those in school lol
@tomallen5837
@tomallen5837 Жыл бұрын
If only the diorama actually included how much additional water is used for animal product processing. Yes the slaughtering of animals and the washing and packaging of meats requires tons of water usage that's why I'm walking away from this video believing it's already inaccurate
@kaitlyn__L
@kaitlyn__L Жыл бұрын
I’ve noticed they’ve been doing it for about a year or so, although there were earlier experiments in the technique such as in the “Glad You Asked” series. It’s close to displacing most of their animations now, and I think that’s a good thing to be sure.
@ferretsmiles
@ferretsmiles Жыл бұрын
You forgot to mention that a field of alfalfa will consume more water than other crops and farmers are picking it specifically for that because in their water rights agreements if they use less water it means that next year their water allocation is reduced.
@kaitlyn__L
@kaitlyn__L Жыл бұрын
I love incentivising waste 🙃
@MrMiyagi005
@MrMiyagi005 Жыл бұрын
WHAT!!
@mwambak1438
@mwambak1438 Жыл бұрын
@@MrMiyagi005 yep, i couldn't believe it too when i found that out.
@doujinflip
@doujinflip Жыл бұрын
CA's water rights scheme needs a complete overhaul. Those laws were made using an unusually wet spell over a century ago and have only caused problems since.
@modalmixture
@modalmixture Жыл бұрын
While "use it or lose it" makes a great story, it is not as true as it once was. In the upper basin (CO, NM, UT, WY) the states have largely changed their laws so that this is no longer an issue. In the lower basin (CA, AZ, NV), irrigation districts have fixed entitlements and regulations that allow them to bank unused water in Lake Mead.
@alecvinson6054
@alecvinson6054 Жыл бұрын
really frustrating when 80-90% of media coverage is on residential + commercial usage when 80-90% of the usage is agriculture. refreshing (ha!) to see a video which helps get to the core of the conservation issue.
@foxymulatta
@foxymulatta Жыл бұрын
Exactly! This is the real story. I wish more outlets would actually talk about who and what is actually responsible for consuming all this water.
@alexm7777
@alexm7777 Жыл бұрын
@@foxymulatta it will never happen unless they are dragged kicking and screaming to do it
@cavolpert
@cavolpert Жыл бұрын
So if the food is for humans is it still a concern? No meat means ramping up whole food production and even greater water consumption
@LutraLovegood
@LutraLovegood Жыл бұрын
And even for the crops we do eat, a lot of it still goes to feed cattle. We do have an overpopulation problem, an overpopulation of cows.
@LutraLovegood
@LutraLovegood Жыл бұрын
@@cavolpert No meat means reduced food production and lower water consumption. Eating animals is a lot less efficient than eating crops, like soybeans, which are in majority used to feed cattle.
@jacobcleaver7256
@jacobcleaver7256 Жыл бұрын
Wow it’s almost like they are growing crops that aren’t evolved to grow in the desert in the middle of a desert…
@genybr
@genybr Жыл бұрын
But bad party here is a cutomers who just wants to eat tasty food. Unforgivable!
@nakenmil
@nakenmil Жыл бұрын
@@genybr I'm going to exaggerate this a bit, but we're not really "just eating tasty food", we are eating more beef than ANY OTHER GENERATION BEFORE US. We are GORGING ourselves on cattle and assuming this is the normal.
@dudere
@dudere Жыл бұрын
Well it is easier to move the water to the crops than the sun to the crops. This practice will last a bit longer than it is tenable.
@letspetpuppies
@letspetpuppies Жыл бұрын
i hate u jacob
@amirk257
@amirk257 Жыл бұрын
In my country Algeria, we only eat red meat once a month or even less, I get it that beef is tasty, but is it essential for a healthy human diet considering the outstanding side effects on the environment?
@kenhunt5153
@kenhunt5153 Жыл бұрын
65% of the water in Utah goes to alfalfa. This makes up about 1% of the State's GDP. Center pivot uses 900gal/minute. Utah has not given up on the Lake Powell Pipeline. The State has only pushed back the Bear River Project which would lower the Great Salt Lake even more. Utah has the lowest water rates in the Nation. Utah is the 2nd driest State.
@abelardogreen
@abelardogreen Жыл бұрын
I wonder how much it would cost to buy out all alfalfa production in Utah?
@abelardogreen
@abelardogreen Жыл бұрын
I wonder if a shift to American seaweed production could supplement the buyout of alfalfa in Utah? The future reduction in greenhouse is worth the investment. The addition of the seaweed to the cows' diets on the Straus dairy farm proved effective, showing an average of a 52 percent reduction in enteric methane emissions, with one cow's emissions reduction as high as 92 percent.
@abelardogreen
@abelardogreen Жыл бұрын
Seaweed farming has promise. In addition to sequestering carbon, it can provide habitat for fish and mitigate local effects of ocean acidification. Unlike other forms of aquaculture, it doesn't depend on inputs like fish feed or antibiotics that can throw local ecosystems out of whack. Still, the most effective way to sequester carbon is to not release it in the first place. For example, scientists recently calculated that bottom trawling (a fishing method that involves scraping the ocean floor with giant nets) releases as much carbon into the atmosphere as the entire aviation industry does-about a billion metric tons a year. A global ban on trawling could accomplish today what sinking kelp could only hope to do in the future.
@chameleoncove
@chameleoncove Жыл бұрын
This is really sad to learn. 😢
@the_wiki9408
@the_wiki9408 Жыл бұрын
I have a relative that is a Utah alfalfa farmer. Most of their sales are to Japan the past 10 years. They pay more than US customers, even after shipping cost Seems problematic to me to use our limited water to feed Japanese cows.
@gregorybstewart
@gregorybstewart Жыл бұрын
Well done. My take away is that rather than being held hostage by the evergreen growers, we need to regulate the market better and dis-incentivize the activity. Levy higher export tariffs, higher water costs, or ? It seems a strange thing, watering the desert, to grow a crop we don’t directly eat.
@LivinBilly
@LivinBilly Жыл бұрын
2 points: 1) if all of the crop goes to feeding something that we eat then it is still valuable to our food supply. 2) the fact that the area is so productive for growing alfalfa, offsets the costs of water. The reason that residential water is targeted by regulations is that some see aesthetics as less important than maintaining a food source.
@gregorybstewart
@gregorybstewart Жыл бұрын
@@LivinBilly I think what worries me is how much of it ends up exported. Maybe i don't know enough, but growing an evergreen cash crop in the desert seems absurd, or at least unsustainable.
@spencerlively3049
@spencerlively3049 Жыл бұрын
@@LivinBilly it may offset the private costs of water consumption for farmers to irrigate their crops but it clearly does not offset the social cost we all pay in the southwestern united states in the form of wildfires and other things. Let's not conflate the price one pays with the price society pays on their behalf.
@LivinBilly
@LivinBilly Жыл бұрын
@@spencerlively3049 If you want to pass "societies cost" on to producers, they will just pass it on to consumers anyways. If wildfires are such a "cost to society" then people shouldn't live where there are high chances of wildfires.
@joshuachung4778
@joshuachung4778 Жыл бұрын
@@LivinBilly By that token, we shouldn't be growing water intensive crops in the middle of a desert. We don't have to ban cattle ranching or the agriculture of ranching feed, we can just move it elsewhere. I am sure elsewhere in the US gets plenty of rainfall and have land to grow cattle feed of some kind. Seems like an easy solution.
@southwestxnorthwest
@southwestxnorthwest Жыл бұрын
Saudi Arabia: _We're going to cut OPEC production so prices increase_ Also Saudi Arabia: _We bought land in Kingman, AZ so we can grow alfalfa to export back to the Kingdom. To do this we will pump as much groundwater as we want since Arizona has no laws restricting the pumping of groundwater_ The United States: _Ok no problem_
@restezlameme
@restezlameme Жыл бұрын
I need a source on that, please. Even if it makes me miserable and further stokes my hatred of American predatory capitalism.
@mdj864
@mdj864 Жыл бұрын
@@restezlameme search fondomonte and thomas galvin
@phantommedia9964
@phantommedia9964 Жыл бұрын
this
@thegreattaiyou
@thegreattaiyou Жыл бұрын
So let me get this straight. We are going to pay farmers, who have unrestricted access to municipal water they don't own, for said water that they don't own (but have unrestricted access to), so that they can do no work on that field, just so we can have enough water to live? And if we don't pay them for their not-work, then we will just let those farmers use all that water to send non-consumable crops to another desert nation, an authoritarian desert nation that is historically antagonistic to the US, in spite of our own citizens ability to access affordable, clean drinking water? Sounds just like America.
@JohnSmith-yc6uv
@JohnSmith-yc6uv Жыл бұрын
That's islamaphobic!
@ez45
@ez45 Жыл бұрын
People will look back at our times and shake their heads. Producing an excessive amount of meat from plants grown in the desert and thereby rendering entire regions uninhabitable during the accelalerating climate crisis is the perfect example of what's wrong with our way of doing things.
@LostMySauce
@LostMySauce Жыл бұрын
We're shaking our heads now but no one's listening
@Coktane_
@Coktane_ Жыл бұрын
Yeah and immediately they tried to imply climate change is a major player in the problem, they said it in the introduction. But it's what you said
@Coktane_
@Coktane_ Жыл бұрын
Oh, whoops you're saying that too
@JensDoll
@JensDoll Жыл бұрын
@@Coktane_ Nope. He didn't say climate change. He said climate crisis, which might be a more factual description of the thing
@xXEGPXx
@xXEGPXx Жыл бұрын
@@Coktane_ That is literally all he was talking about, are you illiterate?
@Mar_Ten
@Mar_Ten Жыл бұрын
Paying for not using water seems so odd... Just regulate it properly. Some of the businesses are just not feasible anymore.
@calvinhoward3808
@calvinhoward3808 Жыл бұрын
The average farmer is a 60 year old white man. Our government will subsidize at the expense of everything and anyone else
@Faroesx
@Faroesx Жыл бұрын
Exactly! Make water cost 2-3 times more for irrigation farmers in the area. Can’t afford it? OUT OF BUSINESS!
@CraftyF0X
@CraftyF0X Жыл бұрын
Capitalist bandate on a capitalist problem. Behold the invisible hand solving everything... except when it doesn't.
@Faroesx
@Faroesx Жыл бұрын
@@CraftyF0X well, obviously capitalism has failed at getting it under control, like it does most things (fail), so we have to take any other means necessary!
@nepadron
@nepadron Жыл бұрын
But the WTO made all of those crops practically worthless on the world market, most places feed their cows trash and moldy grain
@roosterillusion1985
@roosterillusion1985 Жыл бұрын
Wow, it's absolutely shocking how humans create convoluted strategies to problems when the simplest, most effective solution was glossed over in a few seconds in this video. I don't know when people are going to realise that we either have to make the tough decisions ourselves or the climate is going to make it for us. Nevermind, it's already doing that
@michaelkossin2765
@michaelkossin2765 Жыл бұрын
"...but I like cheeseburgers... so here's some complicated economic solution that's not going to work instead" It's so weird how people shut their brains off when faced with insurmountable evidence that they need to change.
@Guardian_Arias
@Guardian_Arias Жыл бұрын
i think you underestimate the power of lobbying and decoy campaigns. Spending a few hundred million dollars for a "news" broadcaster to lie and sway public opinion away from profits like cattle, right to repair and even a presidential campaign is not even walking around money for some companies. To put things into perspective the top SIX companies in the world have more money combined than any single countries government in the entire world. These six companies with HQs in the US have more money than the entire world if you exclude, china, the euro, the US and japan. search total money in the world chart if you want a visual representation although most articles are out of date, the imbalance has only grown.
@michaelkossin2765
@michaelkossin2765 Жыл бұрын
@@Guardian_Arias Lobbying does absolutely nothing when politicians know that people don't actually care about an issue. If you're not WILLING to give up meat, politicians know that anything that increases its price or reduces its availability will mean lost votes. That's why more people have to choose to go vegan before any of that starts working.
@Guardian_Arias
@Guardian_Arias Жыл бұрын
@@michaelkossin2765 @michaelkossin2765 its not meat its beef, and i prefer to get my protein from legumes. Additionally a politician in new york that has received large sums of "donations" from some highly coincidental companies has been currently sitting on a rather big bill that pass with 59 to 4 at the Senate and this politician is refusing to sign or veto the bill and just seems to be buying time at the moment. So im sure lobbying does nothing, never mind how ubsurd "speaking fees" are and the kind of companies happen to pay these fees around key bills.
@starojunes
@starojunes Жыл бұрын
Exactly. I was baffled when the college professor was like "before we all stop eating meat we should explore other solutions." Like why not do both? Just stop eating meat and dairy for the time being while exploring other options. Now is the time for action we can't just wait around anymore. We need to start making changes before it's too late.
@darcey55
@darcey55 Жыл бұрын
It’s unfortunate they barely even mention how helpful it would be for everyone to reduce the amount of meat they consume. I stopped eating meat almost exactly one year ago after 42 years of eating meat daily. My diet now is diverse and delicious, I’ve lost 70 pounds and am now at my ideal weight, and have eliminated every health issue I had. I was scared to stop eating meat and thought it would be impossible. It took me months to even start trying. But it’s literally the best thing I’ve done for myself in my entire life, and I know it’s better for our planet too. Watch the documentary Forks Over Knives and if nothing else, consider making the change for your own benefit.
@thephildiamond
@thephildiamond Жыл бұрын
The video mentions that alfalfa is a crop that humans don't eat, but the second largest water consumer, corn, also doesn't really feed humans. It's mostly for livestock feed and ethanol. A small percentage does feed humans in the form of high fructose corn syrup, corn syrup, corn meal, corn starch, etc often found in junk foods. Quite the system we've created here.
@iamthepinkylifter
@iamthepinkylifter Жыл бұрын
in more ways than one. even the professor they interviewed doesn't want to give up cheeseburgers.
@rorypaul153
@rorypaul153 Жыл бұрын
It’s all a system that has produced an extreme amount of food for an extremely low price. You should be happy.
@thephildiamond
@thephildiamond Жыл бұрын
@@rorypaul153 and extreme obesity and destroyed topsoil and polluted waterways and 40-50% wasted food that ends up in dumpsters and deforestation/desertification and of course extreme water usage during a thousand year drought. Should I keep going? Did you watch this video at all?
@rorypaul153
@rorypaul153 Жыл бұрын
@@oHaiKuu thats not the reason at all. The reason is because we would then not be producing enough food to feed everyone we need to feed. Like i said, animals can produce far more food than crops could ever imagine. That’s how the US did it in the past….back when there were worries of running out of food…..
@thephildiamond
@thephildiamond Жыл бұрын
@@rorypaul153 do you have any idea how much water and pounds of feed it takes to fatten and harvest beef cattle? It is absolutely not the most efficient way to feed humans.
@okayfine6342
@okayfine6342 Жыл бұрын
This was a BEAUTIFULLY shot video! Major compliments to the team who planned this :)
@joeybaseball7352
@joeybaseball7352 Жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@00maniacmanny00
@00maniacmanny00 Жыл бұрын
@@joeybaseball7352 You did not plan this
@Concretelicker
@Concretelicker Жыл бұрын
@@00maniacmanny00 yes he did
@soysorray
@soysorray Жыл бұрын
@@00maniacmanny00 Looking at the Credits, Joey seems to be the Art Director in this video! Great job
@ShannonMichelle7937
@ShannonMichelle7937 Жыл бұрын
I love the props. Good job Joey and team
@michaelkossin2765
@michaelkossin2765 Жыл бұрын
"...but I like cheeseburgers... so here's some complicated economic solution that's not going to work instead" It's so weird how people shut their brains off when faced with insurmountable evidence that they need to change.
@chinookh4713
@chinookh4713 Жыл бұрын
That the thing, they live in the desert... Califorina has been drying up for thousands of year now. Those are the facts. I think people needs to start buying form local farmers instead of food stores that go through multiple companies to bring it to you
@Rosa-lv8yw
@Rosa-lv8yw Жыл бұрын
People have such a lack of self control.
@borealphoto
@borealphoto Жыл бұрын
People are made of atoms and cognitive biases.
@Siegfried5846
@Siegfried5846 Жыл бұрын
I don't mean to be rude, but look at his belly. These cheeseburgers are making him sick. If he can't take care of himself, how can he take care of the environment?
@recless8667
@recless8667 Жыл бұрын
Fallowing is basically just paying a ransom to farmers for a fair share of water. The farmers aren't paid with money manifested from thin air. There are more water efficient farming methods that can be used, such as direct-burial drip irrigation systems, indoor or greenhouse hydro/aquaponics, rainwater swale irrigation, etc. The solution isn't to pay rural farmers a ransom, it's to help fund them changing over to a more sustainable method of water utilization.
@sgallegos702
@sgallegos702 Жыл бұрын
Being in Vegas, we were taught our usage impacted everything. It’s a literal drop in the bucket. We still lead water conservation. This is helpful research.
@grimaffiliations3671
@grimaffiliations3671 Жыл бұрын
Make sure to vote for Sisolak and Cortez Masto, don't let global warming deniers take control of your state
@Aussie-boi
@Aussie-boi Жыл бұрын
same in Australia. We have water restrictions all the time pretty much
@alyssa09485
@alyssa09485 Жыл бұрын
@@grimaffiliations3671 So true !!
@abigailthompson838
@abigailthompson838 Жыл бұрын
Yet we’re blamed for Mead getting low.
@johnsamuel1999
@johnsamuel1999 Жыл бұрын
Vegas actually has a good water management system .
@Xeonerable
@Xeonerable Жыл бұрын
Oh no certain people might lose their jobs! Well if water runs out there are going to be a lot worse problems!
@user-sf9gs2pg1b
@user-sf9gs2pg1b Жыл бұрын
Fr.
@DarkRiek009
@DarkRiek009 Жыл бұрын
The problem is not losing jobs, it's a sustainable future with less farmers, but food for the people
@johnsamuel1999
@johnsamuel1999 Жыл бұрын
It will affect local food production , which can casue food prices increases due to less supply and higher transportation cost from other food producers.
@The-Cat
@The-Cat Жыл бұрын
In America it's all about short term profits.
@thefpvlife7785
@thefpvlife7785 Жыл бұрын
No foresight while drying up.
@matthewclark1529
@matthewclark1529 Жыл бұрын
I have to say, I love the diorama. Seeing things laid out in such a simple, straightforward way is so nice.
@kayallen7603
@kayallen7603 Жыл бұрын
But the actual problem IS NOT simple, nor is it straightforward.
@ebarshin
@ebarshin Жыл бұрын
Very well constructed video. I believe every high school student should have a yearly class where they make these. They would improve their tech, communication, research, writing, speaking, art, and many other skills immensely!
@vice.nor.virtue
@vice.nor.virtue Жыл бұрын
A yearly diorama class?
@jont2576
@jont2576 Жыл бұрын
If u want to do this shyt,u can simply become a KZfaqr and open a KZfaq account.
@shadow102890
@shadow102890 Жыл бұрын
It's almost like it was a bad idea to turn the desert into a farm 🤔
@joeybaseball7352
@joeybaseball7352 Жыл бұрын
McDonald's says otherwise.
@havegottogitgud1864
@havegottogitgud1864 Жыл бұрын
It's easier to move around water than to move around good weather for growing crops all-year round.
@tackytaco8133
@tackytaco8133 Жыл бұрын
@@havegottogitgud1864 Agreed, moreover if they use greenhouses the water savings will be much higher. But it's expensive of course.
@evolvedmonke9939
@evolvedmonke9939 Жыл бұрын
@@havegottogitgud1864 where good weather is, there is water...
@peterisawesomeplease
@peterisawesomeplease Жыл бұрын
Its not a terrible idea if your goal is produce a huge amount of food. Humans have actually massivly increased the amount of animal biomass on the planet. The two ways we have done so are fertilizer and irrigation. Irrigation allows you to take water that would otherwise just flow into the ocean and redirect it to places that are perfect to grow things but only miss the one key ingredient water. The Central valley for example has excellent soil and sunshine and is close to population centers. Just misses water. The problem is we have underpriced water. In a fairer and freer market farmers would be paying much more for water. We would still farm in the desert but we would do it less. We would still have cheese burgers but they would cost more. But the extra costs would be more than made up for in savings in other places.
@genybr
@genybr Жыл бұрын
Well. What about not to grow in deserts?
@hereiseminem
@hereiseminem Жыл бұрын
Exactly. People have their livelihoods and homes there already. Perhaps giving them a sustainable alternative such as subsidizing a non water intensive crop as much as the US subsidizes dairy and corn could be a more viable solution. Another idea could be tax benefits for farms that can use water below a certain gallons/acre mark. Investing in vertical indoor farms (hydroponics, aquaponics etc) which use a lot less water since they have little to no evaporation loss is another possible way. Of course not all crops can be transitioned to this but it's a start.
@homosapien.a6364
@homosapien.a6364 Жыл бұрын
no one have really thought about that before! I guess people in the Middle East have to eat dirt now?
@timdowney6721
@timdowney6721 Жыл бұрын
@@hereiseminem They knew it was a desert. And they’ve made lots of money while depleting a public resource. Never mind farmers get lots of subsidies already. They certainly have no reason to expect ever more subsidies for problems they’re causing.
@BornFromTheSea1
@BornFromTheSea1 Жыл бұрын
@@hereiseminem You know why they grow AlfaAlfa in the desert, even tho its one of the most impractical plants to be grown in the desert? Water rights, if the farmer uses less water, he looses that water next year...
@alyssa09485
@alyssa09485 Жыл бұрын
@@hereiseminem Absolutely agree, the subsidies on corn/wheat are one of the biggest factors in determining what farmers grow so if the government provided subsidies on more sustainable, soil-regenerative, less water-intensive crops I think it'd help
@Sam-hl1oh
@Sam-hl1oh Жыл бұрын
I hope every media company can start to be HONEST about the major users of water and the impact that reducing red meat consumption can have. Thanks for making this!
@karma-616
@karma-616 Жыл бұрын
Same. Many of them get animal product sponsors so they won't touch it
@AmyKozerski
@AmyKozerski 11 ай бұрын
Red meat AND dairy consumption. There's a lot of cattle to feed in the dairy industry, and I believe California has the biggest dairy industry. Giving up beef is one thing, but a lot of people "absolutely cannot give up" their cheese.
@yaxleader
@yaxleader Жыл бұрын
Water heavy crops should only be grown in areas that get plenty of water, simple as. Grow the alfalfa in places like Western Washington, Oregon, and the East Coast. It doesn't have to be farmed in California.
@christimmins1233
@christimmins1233 Жыл бұрын
Or, I don't know, reduce meat consumption?
@_morgoth_
@_morgoth_ Жыл бұрын
@Chris Timmins good luck with convincing people of that. Easier to ban alfalfa exports. Or ban the growing of super water intensive crops in drought afflicted areas like almonds.
@twelvestitches984
@twelvestitches984 Жыл бұрын
Ever been to the Sacramento and San Joaquin Rivers? Billions of gallons of fresh water flow into the ocean unused every day. We have plenty of water it's just the ridiculous extreme environmentalists tell you not to use it and the Democrats stupidly listen.
@gonzaloenrique8741
@gonzaloenrique8741 Жыл бұрын
@@christimmins1233 growing alfalfa where water isn't an issue or eating less meat which affects my daily life......... Man that's a tough one
@crashoppe
@crashoppe Жыл бұрын
@@_morgoth_ nuts are extremely healthy for humans. dont buy into the lie
@tat801
@tat801 Жыл бұрын
This is such an important topic, and I'm glad Vox has taken it on. As a resident of the West, I see my environment changing rapidly around me in ways that are downright terrifying, yet with limited recognition from those in charge around here. What sticks in my mind is: "what happens when millions of people, either by choice or by necessity, must leave the West and call someplace else home?". Who will be able to make that choice, and how will we support those unable to make that choice? The issue of water in the West is not limited to just the western United States, its likely to affect the entire country as well as how we expect to manage environmental issues of similar magnitude as they present themselves to us around the world in the coming years. And they will undoubtedly present themselves.
@KB-ke3fi
@KB-ke3fi Жыл бұрын
They're only leaving because of the Newsom disaster who can't run a state right.
@XEinstein
@XEinstein Жыл бұрын
I think you should hope that people from other parts of the USA will welcome you as a domestic asylum seeker instead of treating you the same way as the people in the USA treat foreign asylum seekers
@tuckerbugeater
@tuckerbugeater Жыл бұрын
@@XEinstein No country should be forced to give up it's sovereignty to foreigners.
@LivinBilly
@LivinBilly Жыл бұрын
When all of those people leave there will be less demand on resources and infrastructure. The people who leave benefit and the people who stay benefit. Technology let's us spread out to less dense areas while still being productive which should help everything. Moved from Cali to Ohio... Rent $1250 -> $950 SqFt 650 -> 1150
@somedudeonline1936
@somedudeonline1936 Жыл бұрын
@@tuckerbugeater you do know we the west are responsible for the instability that causes these people to become refugees.
@juliuszkocinski7478
@juliuszkocinski7478 Жыл бұрын
EVERY well-made documentary about human enviromental impact follows roughly the same story: 1) You were told that cutting your consumption on [this resource] is neccessary to save the Earth 2) Actually residental usage counts to below 10% of all consumption. 3) Big business / agriculture / industry / military is responsible for the other 70-90% 4) Nobody really seems to care, regulate or even talk about it Seriously, I'm more and more sure that the most enviromentally concious decisions we can made is to just buy things which are made in sustainable way. To vote with your wallet And even then it's HARD, because estimating enviromental impact is way out of scope for everyday consumer and companies will try to sell absurd ideas like "our cruise ships take 30% less fuel than decade ago therefore they are eco-friendly"
@billybobjenkins5625
@billybobjenkins5625 Жыл бұрын
Anything the greenies will try will result in famine and revolution. They have no winning strategy.
@LazyBuddyBan
@LazyBuddyBan Жыл бұрын
good luck lol
@scrapox217
@scrapox217 Жыл бұрын
You were this close. The only decision is to pressure lawmakers into regulating those industries. Voting with your wallet doesn't work on this scale.
@Gisiebob
@Gisiebob Жыл бұрын
I feel like you just highlighted how the issues we are facing are not solvable on an individual level and then suggested an individualist solution. if the problem is in the system, in how our society operates and is organized, struggling to be responsible consumers will never be enough. it is a good thing to do. don't stop doing that, but understand that isn't going to fix our problems.
@Jo-Heike
@Jo-Heike Жыл бұрын
It doesn't fix the problem of unsustainable production, because with the current regulations and system producers can only produce what's profitable, even if that's not what's sustainable for our planet.
@brianh9358
@brianh9358 Жыл бұрын
I think that other crops need to be considered for feeding cattle. Clover and other cereal grasses are more resistant to drought and moisture loss. I have also heard that a lot of the property is owned by foreign companies and individuals - so essentially the water in the Southwest is largely being exported along with the feed.
@freefight7750
@freefight7750 Жыл бұрын
It literally shows you know nothing. Let's just feed cows and cattle cereal and popcorn and chips right 😂😂😂 that's what you're saying. Cattle can only eat certain kinds of food like alfalfa 🤦 they don't eat tomatoes carrots and other things and if they can it's not enough to keep them alive 🤦 why don't you tell spiders to stop eating insects or dolphins to stop eating fish or pandas to stop eating bamboo 🤦 it's because not all animals can eat a variety of different sorts of foods like people can. 🤦 And the stupidity award goes to you 🏆
@juha9703
@juha9703 11 ай бұрын
How about going vegan? That would mean there would be plenty of water for everyone, it would free land for forests and people would be way healthier.
@TheMagicalFrogYT
@TheMagicalFrogYT 21 күн бұрын
@@juha9703or just cut down on consumption of meat
@teresabenson3385
@teresabenson3385 Жыл бұрын
I'm very surprised that you didn't mention the lack of a coordinated federal response, leading to landowners deliberately choosing to maximize their water usage by growing alfalfa due to their allocated water rights being based on "use it or lose it" laws in some states, and municipalities like St. George, UT insisting that they can be golf course destinations based on how much water they have been allocated-- never mind that that water no longer exists. Sad that it's taken this long for the feds to get serious about this disaster.
@jennifervan75
@jennifervan75 Жыл бұрын
They've been knowing about water shortages for 20yrs and still haven't done anything
@fynkozari9271
@fynkozari9271 Жыл бұрын
Good, america greatest country can't think for themselves.
@quiet451
@quiet451 Жыл бұрын
A lot of people are changing their diets.
@kakaraditya4705
@kakaraditya4705 Жыл бұрын
Lol its not america alone country like indonesia and other poor country still haven't solution
@grantmeyer8977
@grantmeyer8977 Жыл бұрын
@@quiet451 Doesn't help the problem one bit
@jennifervan75
@jennifervan75 Жыл бұрын
@@kakaraditya4705 I was talking about worldleaders/countries etc everywhere in each and every country
@supermario530
@supermario530 Жыл бұрын
This is painfully true. I live in the Imperial Valley, CA and it's named after the local power and water utility company Imperial Irrigation District which has a monopoly over everyone here. Farmers use most of the water here to grow hay/alfalfa and they have the audacity to ask everyday customers to save. There are numerous solar panel facilities viable on the way to San Diego all of which the electricity is sold to other cities outside our own county. The people with power cater to the farmers 1st and the people 2nd, humans aren't eating hay so why the need to plant 100s of fields for it?
@jonathanbowers8964
@jonathanbowers8964 Жыл бұрын
You know, we can easily grow hay and alfalfa in another part of the country with plenty of water. The Midwest should just pick up the slack so that California doesn't go dry.
@upulor744
@upulor744 Жыл бұрын
I also live in the Imperial Valley. And the IID existing is a good thing. There is no monopoly. It's publicly owned which is why we have the lowest energy costs in the state. Is the watering of alfalfa a problem? Yes. Do we still need the water for other crops? Also yes. The Imperial Valley supplies the entire nation with winter produce every year because nowhere else can it be grown. The issue is not with the farmers but with consumption. If the public demands beef on this grand of a scale then farmers will continue to grow feed at the scale required. If the public cut back on beef consumption then water would not be allocated nearly as much as it is now to cattle feed. The problem is squarely with the consumers and not the farmers. The Imperial Valley is an Eden. 120 years ago it was a barren wasteland of desert sands. Because of irrigation it transformed into an agricultural powerhouse that exports food not just to the rest of the country but to other countries as well. It's less than 5% of the size of the Central Valley and yet the value of its produce is 12% of that of the Central Valley. That is a remarkable number considering the difference in size.
@remster5284
@remster5284 Жыл бұрын
@@jonathanbowers8964 The Midwest isn't just some empty place where we can just start growing a bunch of extra crops. We already produce 93% of all ethanol in this country from our corn crops. Should we just stop doing that for poor old Cali?
@chad2522
@chad2522 Жыл бұрын
@@jonathanbowers8964 That is the most unaware thing i have ever heard. We tried that remember silly? Its called the dust bowl. Someone did not pass history class
@cajer30076
@cajer30076 Жыл бұрын
@@remster5284 Ethanol production to serve as a fuel replacement is also horrifically inefficient. Some studies have shown it to produce 24% more carbon than just drilling for more gas, in addition to using up tons of water and farmland. It should just stop.
@monicac.7396
@monicac.7396 Жыл бұрын
Here in Arizona, the state (aka our greedy governor) has lease a ton of land and water for a Saudi Arabian company to grow alfalfa for themselves. It’s irritating that the politicians in these states that are at the biggest risk for a water crisis only seem to care about profit in the short run rather than water conservation.
@Domin8squad
@Domin8squad Жыл бұрын
I would love to see another version of this video done where they are mining for all the lithium batteries. For some articles are saying that they go through 22 million liters of water per day to produce lithium batteries. Great video!
@Jbharley91
@Jbharley91 Жыл бұрын
while 22 million gallons of water may seem like a lot its really not even 1% of 1% of the water used on a daily basis by the western states. More water is used daily to water golf courses just in southern California (Bakersfield to San Diego) than is used for mining lithium. Just putting it into perspective for you.
@Domin8squad
@Domin8squad Жыл бұрын
@@Jbharley91 do you know how many lithium mining plants there are across the us? And thank you for explaining that to me. And 22 million liters a day does sound like a lot and would it be enough to help out the ones that have zero water. Cuz when I multiply that on how much water they used per month or per year that seems like it a lot.
@Jbharley91
@Jbharley91 Жыл бұрын
@@Domin8squad Well according to google theres only one operational lithium mine in the US and its at Thacker Pass in Northern Nevada. Research shows that it takes roughly 500,000 gallons of water to mine 1 ton of lithium. The mine in Nevada produces about 60,000 tons of lithium per year which comes out to about 30 billion gallons of water used daily which again isnt even 1% of 1% of the water used in the western states yearly. Remember 22 trillion gallons of water is used every year. Thats 22,000 billions. Lithium mining is the least of our worries when it comes to conserving water. Farming in the deserts is far far worse. and honestly needs to be cut down drastically. Farmers will go out of business some families will be ruined but it for the greater good. Save a couple 1000 farmers or protect the fresh water supply for the 80 million people living in the western states. Seems like an easy decision.
@robo_t
@robo_t Жыл бұрын
A whole lot goes into cattle. It’s clear that people aren’t going to give it up as easily. But even if the US cuts their consumption down, around to the global average, that could do a whole lot to help
@elizabethfrohn-hengst296
@elizabethfrohn-hengst296 Жыл бұрын
You don't have to cut consumption, you just have to move things around. One option would be to eat more grass-fed beef and to move beef cattle farms to areas outside of the southwest
@thetimelapseguy8
@thetimelapseguy8 Жыл бұрын
@@elizabethfrohn-hengst296 it'd be easier for people to cut consumption of beef then to uproot thousands of farmers from their homes and farm.
@merrymachiavelli2041
@merrymachiavelli2041 Жыл бұрын
@@elizabethfrohn-hengst296 I'm not sure that is an option - by my understanding grass-fed beef requires significantly more land per tonne of meat produced (there are simply more calories in a field of corn than in a field of grass). Already something like 41% of the continental US is used for cattle and feed. To produce the same amount, but entirely grass-fed would require a higher proportion of land. Which isn't really possible, both because not all land in the US is suitable for pasture and because...well...it's being used for other things, like growing other food, timber and national parks. As well as literally just cities and infrastructure.
@AlicedeTerre
@AlicedeTerre Жыл бұрын
@@elizabethfrohn-hengst296 you still have to cut consumption no matter what which will naturally happen if the source changed pastured raised just due to price difference. But we’d also need to protect forests from being razed for pasture as is what’s happening in Brazil. The level of beef consumption is untenable full stop.
@iamthepinkylifter
@iamthepinkylifter Жыл бұрын
​@@elizabethfrohn-hengst296 deforest the habitable half of the continental US to make room for more cows who already use nearly half of the land in the continental US. Makes perfect sense. Or...we could eat Impossible burgers and drink oat milk.
@TheFvw
@TheFvw Жыл бұрын
I have traveled a lot through the American west and the wanton waste of water from alfalfa farmers is incredible. You frequently see spray irrigation running at high noon in the desert. Probably more than 90% of the water evaporates. Such a waste of resources.
@zacharybob4336
@zacharybob4336 Жыл бұрын
Your travel thru the American west doesn't provide you any real understanding of irrigation and your 90% claims are completely asinine.
@freeheeler09
@freeheeler09 Жыл бұрын
Zac, insult folks all you want, it doesn’t make you less wrong. On any daylong drive through ag areas in the west, you will see folks irrigating at mid day
@zacharybob4336
@zacharybob4336 Жыл бұрын
@@freeheeler09 learn how to read.
@tuckerbugeater
@tuckerbugeater Жыл бұрын
@@freeheeler09 you couldn't observe such waste from your car
@BicycleFunk
@BicycleFunk Жыл бұрын
@@tuckerbugeater if you can literally see what spraying around and feel that the heat and relative humidity means much of that will evaporate, yes, you can make an assumption that quite a lot of water is being wasted.
@iyote
@iyote Жыл бұрын
US has far too much reliance on meat. Cattle industries are heavily subsidized. That's why fast food is so cheap and convenient, and why salads are so expensive. We need a shift in subsidies to support plant agriculture for human consumption over animal agriculture, and a cultural shift away from beef-heavy diets.
@kenairockband
@kenairockband Жыл бұрын
But then people start to get healthy and big pharma doesn’t like that
@JGnuff
@JGnuff Жыл бұрын
Well presented. I've been guilty of heavy beef consumption my entire life -until three weeks ago when the Cardiologist sat me down at 41 yrs old, to discuss my 2nd Heart CT scan results....
@Apelles42069
@Apelles42069 Жыл бұрын
@@Jj-gi2uv Yeah, it probably is.
@Siegfried5846
@Siegfried5846 Жыл бұрын
Check out Dr. John McDougall.
@thecolourpurple7509
@thecolourpurple7509 Жыл бұрын
You had me until the very end, where the solution is supposedly to pay for farmers to maybe if they want not grow some of one type of crop. That is not at all a solution, and you already explained why in the video.
@zombieat
@zombieat Жыл бұрын
the cost of water must reflect its true scarcity not remain subsidized for this to end.
@hannahnelson4569
@hannahnelson4569 Жыл бұрын
I completely agree. This solution is clearly just delaying the inevitable.
@iamthepinkylifter
@iamthepinkylifter Жыл бұрын
Yep. The solution is incredibly simple. People just expect these problems to solve themselves without ever having to change anything about how they consume. And so they're scared of trying Impossible burgers and oat milk.
@jaad9848
@jaad9848 Жыл бұрын
Its a solution. It would increase the amount of available water multiple times over
@rorypaul153
@rorypaul153 Жыл бұрын
@@Noe11e the sun. These crops ARE meant to be grown in places with high amounts of sunlight. That’s why they’re grown there. Not that hard to understand.
@Joemondaking
@Joemondaking Жыл бұрын
I’m very familiar with dairy products. Between the hay, corn for the cows(cow corn is different than people corn..they don’t use any pesticides basically less work and gets used in their feed) , cows drinking water, and then production and all that goes into that, flushing the lines multiple times, cleaning the tankers, the filler for bottles, and all around cleaning that goes into production and keeping the cows in a good environment, it takes a tremendous amount of water and effort
@giacomoboffi9394
@giacomoboffi9394 Жыл бұрын
Also, the digestive process of cows produces methane, lots of methane, a green house gas even more effective than CO2
@mushy470
@mushy470 Жыл бұрын
vegans have been saying this for decades
@P.rusticus
@P.rusticus Жыл бұрын
@@mushy470 and ignoring the fact that the majority of that water percolates and filters itself back into the ground.
@mushy470
@mushy470 Жыл бұрын
@@P.rusticus doesn't take much for eutrophication
@god-of-war-fan
@god-of-war-fan Жыл бұрын
@@mushy470 and have been needing supplements because of poor nutrition for decades as well
@jakem3043
@jakem3043 Жыл бұрын
Showing the people dispensing and essentially moving around the water in the different sizes of glasses is a good nod to how we move around water currently to meet our demands in this economy. Well done.
@babybaklavagus
@babybaklavagus Жыл бұрын
This should be trending. The visuals were so well done and informative!
@okzoomer5728
@okzoomer5728 Жыл бұрын
I live in Utah. Our state governor owns an alfalfa farm, and last year he told us to "pray for rain" amidst drought. Lots of state govt corruption here is making everything worse...
@b.a.d.2086
@b.a.d.2086 Жыл бұрын
Amen! Our land developer politicians will wring the last dollar along with the last drop and then leave us with violent foreign owned slums, at least in the valleys.
@joeybaseball7352
@joeybaseball7352 Жыл бұрын
Your first mistake is living in Utah.
@freefight7750
@freefight7750 Жыл бұрын
​@@joeybaseball7352 😂😂 isn't that the truth
@Jon.A.Scholt
@Jon.A.Scholt Жыл бұрын
I'm from Michigan, where we have a ton of water and I remember going to Moab, Utah on July one summer and I was amazed that every house had a green lawn in front of it. It was the middle of the desert and their lawns were much greener than our lawns in Michigan where we had plenty of water to do so! That was 2003 so I don't know if it's changed but I thought those people we're nuts, wasting water in a way most people even in water-rich Michigan don't.
@Eminence_1337
@Eminence_1337 Жыл бұрын
That's not the point residential water only uses 6% of the entire west so even if they didn't have lawns the same issue would still persist.
@dudere
@dudere Жыл бұрын
@@Eminence_1337 Spoken like someone who uses 1% themself.
@CtrlAltDlt68
@CtrlAltDlt68 Жыл бұрын
@@zUJ7EjVD Those aren't laws, those are HOA rules.
@PeterVonDanczk
@PeterVonDanczk Жыл бұрын
Basically, having new residential development in many places in Utah, New Mexico, and Arizona is nuts! The land is cheap, the houses are cheap... yeah, sure. But the cost of supplying these communities with water, electricity, and food will be environmentally unsustainable.
@PeterVonDanczk
@PeterVonDanczk Жыл бұрын
For the record - the "markets" logic for housing development is nuts not only in the US. Around my home town in Europe, housing dev. consumes good agricultural land. Which will become a valued commodity under climate change.
@TheJoscelyne
@TheJoscelyne Жыл бұрын
We need to be thinking about long term, sustainable agriculture and diet, not paying people not to work.
@chinookh4713
@chinookh4713 Жыл бұрын
Well that the thing, most "farmers" aregoing out of business so more corptations and imports are taking over last year we imported 2.9 billion pounds of beef.
@classproject00111
@classproject00111 Ай бұрын
This has to be the shortest, sweetest most informational video on KZfaq Kids in school should watch this. It’s only five minutes.
@ry.hoshiko5482
@ry.hoshiko5482 Жыл бұрын
I'm from SE Asia and I never understood the need to water lawns. If its dry season we just let them turn brown. They will grow back once the wet season starts.
@robo_t
@robo_t Жыл бұрын
Also, lawn/grass isn’t even good, you could be using the space for much better uses, including for natural fauna
@itsgonnabeanaurfromme
@itsgonnabeanaurfromme Жыл бұрын
What do you mean "WE"? Don't make statements speaking for all southeast asians. We are not all like you.
@merge9585
@merge9585 Жыл бұрын
In this part of the United States, there is no wet season
@hermitcrack9091
@hermitcrack9091 Жыл бұрын
@@merge9585 then don't grow grass.
@Gisiebob
@Gisiebob Жыл бұрын
@@hermitcrack9091 if we don't grow grass then what will we do with our lawnmowers?
@grahamturner2640
@grahamturner2640 Жыл бұрын
And what’s worse is that some farmers use it at subsidized rates. A few years ago, in Arizona, Ducey’s government signed a deal with a Saudi company where they could tap into groundwater at rates well below market level.
@freedomdude5420
@freedomdude5420 Жыл бұрын
China can’t even clean up their own mess why are they taking our alfalfa.
@EricVandenAkker
@EricVandenAkker Жыл бұрын
You guys are making some great content. Keep it up!
@cwuzii
@cwuzii Жыл бұрын
Did that grown man just say cheeseburgers are his favourite food? 🤣🤣
@kjorlaug1
@kjorlaug1 Жыл бұрын
How about we ban growing the crops that take up 1/3 of the water in the drought stricken region? There are a other areas of the country where they could be grown and not affect the water table so drastically.
@OurayTheOwl
@OurayTheOwl Жыл бұрын
Industry is efficient. Water rights out west are better for business, land is cheap, and the weather forgiving. Moving could make the cost go up so that it wouldn’t be worth it. Enterprise will always take the path of least resistance. We would have to construct barriers to making their practices viable
@kjorlaug1
@kjorlaug1 Жыл бұрын
@@OurayTheOwl it's not moving, it's changing what you grow. And the water rights is a huge issue. Farmers are known to just run the water if they haven't used their allotment to prevent cuts.
@ericw.1620
@ericw.1620 Жыл бұрын
@@OurayTheOwl okay then lets construct the barriers :)
@OurayTheOwl
@OurayTheOwl Жыл бұрын
@@ericw.1620 I’m trying 😩
@rollingthunderinho
@rollingthunderinho Жыл бұрын
how about we ban beef production, its bad for your health and the environment. 90%+ of cropland is used to grow animal feed worldwide.
@jasm.5823
@jasm.5823 Жыл бұрын
Don’t forget how the large soda companies use their access to fill tanker trucks from residential water facilities, then bottle it and sell it as bottles water for profit.
@arthurburns3382
@arthurburns3382 Жыл бұрын
Why? Do you think the amount they use is in any way significant compared to agricultural use? Did you watch the video and somehow miss the entire point??
@hydra70
@hydra70 Жыл бұрын
That makes up effectively 0% of total water consumption. The whole point of the video is that agriculture is the entire problem.
@tommyacri4832
@tommyacri4832 Жыл бұрын
Another important aspect is how inefficient current watering practices for a lot of crops are. Such as center pivot, one of the methods shown in the video, is terribly inefficient. This method allows good portion to not actually water the plant bc of evaporation and other factors. Drip irrigation is much more efficient but more expensive but I’d rather spend a bit more on the system than have no water at all. Like y’all said, It’s gonna be a hard sell to have people change their diets but improving the systems of how we grow it could make a big difference.
@randytaylor4092
@randytaylor4092 Жыл бұрын
Alfalfa Farmer here- just wanted to drop my two cents. The west grows so much alfalfa for several reasons. 1. Climate: Alfalfa has a deep tap root and can be very drought tolerant. It does require a lot of water but it is also one of the most productive crops on the planet. If you compare pounds produced per gallon of water used you will find that alfalfa is not a wasteful crop. Alfalfa also is extremely difficult to grow in areas that receive a lot of rainfall. It has to dry in the field for 3-7 days after being cut before it can be baled. If rain falls on the hay after it has been cut it loses a drastic amount of nutrients and begins to mold. This is why the desert is a perfect place to grow alfalfa. (Alfalfa is also native to the Middle East, so it is much more at home in the desert than many human food crops are). 2. Cattle: What most people don’t realize is that much of the nations beef supply begins with ranchers in the west. In the west, there are millions and millions of acres that are not suitable for crop production but they can still be used to produce beef. During the spring and summer months cattle graze and raise their young, utilizing land that is only useful for grazing. The winter months require hay to be fed in much of the west, hence the need for alfalfa and hay production. Because of the bulk nature of alfalfa it cannot be shipped long distances super efficiently, so it makes more sense to grow it close to where it is needed. 3. Economics: It is very difficult to get an accurate measurement of the economic impact of alfalfa. This is because the vast majority (in my area, about 90%) of alfalfa is grown and fed to cows on the same ranch. Because there is no point of sale, it’s very difficult to correctly value alfalfa’s contribution to state economies. But I feel comfortable in stating that 95% + of all cattle in the USA are fed alfalfa at some point, for many of them it is the sole source of nutrition in the winter. I’m not attempting to change anyone’s mind, the numbers in this video don’t lie. But it is worth considering that cattle production in the west is an extremely efficient use of range and forest not suitable for crop production, and that the arid regions where alfalfa is grown are almost perfectly suited to alfalfa. Alfalfa thrives where other crops might struggle, so in that sense it’s worth asking if alfalfa is really all that wasteful, even if it isn’t directly used to feed humans.
@Siegfried5846
@Siegfried5846 Жыл бұрын
There's no reason why we need to eat animals.
@imCXS-zh2yt
@imCXS-zh2yt Жыл бұрын
If farmers can grow alfalfa, I should be able to grow grass
@Siegfried5846
@Siegfried5846 Жыл бұрын
@@imCXS-zh2yt They shouldn't be able to grow alfalfa
@TheVonifasio
@TheVonifasio Жыл бұрын
If all alfalfa farms used sprinklers instead of flood irrigation that would save 3/4 of the water runoff, I live next to an alfalfa field and once they open the gate to flood irrigate for the first 8-15 hours water is not flowing onto the field it is being drained right into the drain ditch so even if they blocked the water runoff while flooding the field they could save 1/2 of it from bypassing the field and going straight into the drain.
@b.a.d.2086
@b.a.d.2086 Жыл бұрын
What drain? The remaining water is moved on to the next farmer downstream. Drains might even be a good idea if they went into covered reservoirs.
@michaelpospisil1951
@michaelpospisil1951 Жыл бұрын
Not sure that makes sense...but if so they may be doing it on purpose...because the more water they use the more the are allocated the next year...they literally incentivize wasting water...
@modalmixture
@modalmixture Жыл бұрын
The drains return the water back to the river in many irrigation districts, so it's not entirely a loss. But yes there is still water lost to evaporation and seepage.
@zacharybob4336
@zacharybob4336 Жыл бұрын
Again with the completely uninformed claims.. Do you understand that it takes electricity to run sprinklers? Flood irrigation requires significantly less resources and sprinkler irrigation has significantly higher evaporation losses. When water goes into the ground, do you think it just ceases to exist at that point? Do you know what a water table is?
@geelllee
@geelllee Жыл бұрын
im not saying to cut out all meat, but americans seriously need to have less dependency on meat and dairy in their diet, more fruits, vegetables and grains, my friend visited the states and felt sick after a week because she struggled to find anywhere that served fresh fruit and vegetables instead of fast food
@mrcocoloco7200
@mrcocoloco7200 Жыл бұрын
Good Point.
@konnen4518
@konnen4518 Жыл бұрын
It was as easy as going to the grocery store and buying fruits. There’s no reason to serve fruits at restaurants. Your friend is a little ❄️
@HKim0072
@HKim0072 Жыл бұрын
umm, you don't know Americans. 1/3 of the population can't even regulate their calorie intake and are obese. Likely, a huge factor why covid deaths were so bad in the US.
@Luboman411
@Luboman411 Жыл бұрын
Oh, I despise fast food as any grown, mature adult. But your friend could've had fresh fruits and veggies in the U.S. They're these magical things called "farmer's markets" and "groceries" where one can buy so many fresh fruits and veggies it's obscene. I think your friend from abroad is a bit daft if she (or you) couldn't figure that one out...
@gaswe9236
@gaswe9236 Жыл бұрын
@@Luboman411 I think she was probably on vacation and was visiting restaurants for her meals.
@benjamintryon813
@benjamintryon813 Жыл бұрын
thank you! as someone who lives in the west, this is exactly what I wished more people knew about.
@sarahrodermund3121
@sarahrodermund3121 Жыл бұрын
This is a pricing problem. The cost of water usage (drying out an entire region) needs to be reflected in prices. It will be less profitable, companies will raise prices to consumers, and we’ll consume less.
@russbear31
@russbear31 Жыл бұрын
I knew agriculture would be the biggest culprit. You cannot grow lettuce and carrots in a desert without an ungodly amount of water. It was all a mirage that should never have happened.
@helenpauls1496
@helenpauls1496 Жыл бұрын
Nestle too.
@brianrcVids
@brianrcVids Жыл бұрын
Fruits and vegetables are not the issue. It's all the crops grown, all the land wasted (half the continental U.S.), for non-human consumption. Do we need to eat animal products in order to be happy and healthy? No. All of this is done by choice. We can make different choices.
@charles9391
@charles9391 Жыл бұрын
Were we watching the same video?
@aidennam4641
@aidennam4641 Жыл бұрын
We should be having farms in the coast really
@alexlaw4429
@alexlaw4429 Жыл бұрын
@@brianrcVids you like Corn? That corn is grown in the Midwest. Well most the corn here goes into manufacturing but sweet corn is what you eat.
@PharmacyKeys
@PharmacyKeys Жыл бұрын
It’s always struck me as ironic that our most critical resource is basically unmanaged.
@markferenc8126
@markferenc8126 Жыл бұрын
It's worse than unmanaged, in the entire Western United States, you are REQUIRED to use water. Oh and it has to be used for "productive" purposes such as agriculture. It can't be left in the river for the fish or for other people downriver. If you don't use it all, the amount you can use is reduced by law
@eh3477
@eh3477 Жыл бұрын
@Mark Ferenc It's much more complicated than that, and each state has different protections/ requirements under the law. There are extensive federal and state protections in California, for example, for various important salmon species.
@fredcarani6764
@fredcarani6764 9 ай бұрын
Western water law is the problem. It's based on senior water rights. These rights were given to the first people who used the water. In many cases it was miners and that has been passed down through the generations. Things have changed so much in the last 150 years since senior water rights were allocated. This has to be addressed or nothing will improve.
@jackschroeder7570
@jackschroeder7570 Жыл бұрын
The best solution isn’t to cut back personal water use, it’s to solve the problem and build water desalination plants along the west coast.
@joshh5353
@joshh5353 Жыл бұрын
Seems like getting rid of beef entirely would probably be good. Not exactly a moral industry anyway.
@MsTyrie
@MsTyrie Жыл бұрын
Great tenor and pace in this. Despite the bluntness of the problem, we aren't bludgeoned with the facts. Touché!
@sk3jt
@sk3jt Жыл бұрын
Farmers grow Alfalfa because they want to hold onto their water rights / amounts because they know if they use less their quotas will be cut and they might not get it back
@nobodyspecial4702
@nobodyspecial4702 Жыл бұрын
Alfalfa is a refresher crop that puts nitrogen back into the soil so it's part of intelligent crop rotation. Selling it as cattle feed is a bonus. Funny Vox didn't mention that.
@justlikeacake
@justlikeacake Жыл бұрын
@@nobodyspecial4702 they just want us to eat bugs
@Chris-rg6nm
@Chris-rg6nm Жыл бұрын
@@nobodyspecial4702 They grow it 10 times a year though, I doubt they need that much. Plus it's the desert.
@nobodyspecial4702
@nobodyspecial4702 Жыл бұрын
@@Chris-rg6nm On a good year, a farmer can get 5 cuttings of alfalfa, and the quality determines if it's used as feed for dairy cows or beef cows. At best, only one or two harvests are good for dairy. Now, if you look at a map of the area they are talking about in this video, only a tiny portion of the Colorado river basin is desert, so again, Vox isn't exactly being honest in this story.
@E4439Qv5
@E4439Qv5 Жыл бұрын
@@nobodyspecial4702 surprise, surprise. Another op-ed masquerading as a statistical thinkpiece.
@BD-nt3ee
@BD-nt3ee Жыл бұрын
Once again a great short documentary. The visuals in your videos are always simple and on point, yet very well made. And the all thing is well documented while being efficiently vulgarized and explained (speaking as a foreigner with very limited skills when it comes to the English language). The content of the video in itself is of course much less pleasing :(
@loturzelrestaurant
@loturzelrestaurant Жыл бұрын
Wow, this Video is So Inferior to the 1 'Some More News' made
@runthenumbers9698
@runthenumbers9698 Жыл бұрын
There's another water waste that might be worth looking into. Evaporation. The truth of the matter is, certain land geometries reduce evaporation. It's like if you get a towel soaking and just throw it on the floor in a mound. It'll stay wet, particularly in the middle for quite a while. Compare that to laying a wet towel on the floor... it'll stay wet quite a bit longer, but since it's right up against the floor, the bottom tends to stay wet (since there isn't great air circulation under the towel). Compare that to hanging the towel on the line, and it will dry EXTREMELY fast. It's got both sides of the towel exposed to air, and the air is free flowing. So how can this be done in the West to conserve water? Well, you want to somehow do 2 things. 1. You want to get the water from where it falls to where it pools as quickly and efficiently as possible. 2. You want to reduce the air flow as much as possible. One way you can do this is by planning farms runoff better. They need their rainfall, of course... there's no getting around that, but much of their rainfall just evaporates anyway. If you strategized channels to drain to the nearest aquifer as quickly as possible, you will not only save evaporation and replentish aquifers, but you will also potentially have an underground well to pump from and water your plants more regularly.
@djiniiiii
@djiniiiii Жыл бұрын
It's stunning to realise that beef/dairy accounts for more than twice the water consumption of the entire Western US Residential, Commercial and Industrial sector But instead of asking ppl too completely get off a beef/dairy diet, wouldn't it be better to have them reduce their consumption by a fourth or a third??? That would be enough water savings to cater to the entire Residential OR Commercial/Industrial sector The only way to do that though is to put a tax surcharge on beef/dairy. That way, if a family budgets $400 a month for beef/dairy, now they only get 3/4th of the quantity for that money. The earned income by the State could go towards things like fallowing....🤔
@nuomitang30
@nuomitang30 Жыл бұрын
Can I just say I love these presentation from Vox so much ! This is what video all about, visual to reality. And a little bit touch of art. Perfection.
@shalec6704
@shalec6704 Жыл бұрын
Utahn here- my family owns an alfalfa field. Water here is all about shares. Water shares. You either buy a share or lease a share. Water is in two categories- agriculture and residential. We lease water shares from farmers who own “extra shares” if there’s extra water. Our field has been fallow for 3 years now bc we can’t get the water shares- all the farmers are selling residential shares. They can sell residential for more money than agriculture shares for us. Farmers are now selling left and right to house developers, who then bring in more residential lots so it’s even less likely to get agri shares. To all those saying that farmers should pay- we do. Water is expensive and breaking even from all the expenses is rare. The less green space, the more houses built, the more roads and asphalt,the hotter it gets. I’m not saying that farming is not part of the problem bc it is, but farmers aren’t the villains here. We’re struggling. We grow food to feed the cows that you eat. Also, the farmland is slowly being pushed out to most hostile regions by suburban sprawl. We’re in a viscous cycle that keeps getting worse.
@henri-julien
@henri-julien Жыл бұрын
all people have to do to help is stop eating meat lol
@-p2349
@-p2349 Жыл бұрын
@@henri-julien never
@janeblogs324
@janeblogs324 Жыл бұрын
Water is cheap, I pay $2usd for a cubic meter of fresh water. Im not complaining
@henri-julien
@henri-julien Жыл бұрын
@@-p2349 🤦‍♂smh
@reneemulvey3132
@reneemulvey3132 Жыл бұрын
@@oHaiKuu We forgive you your ignorance
@Thejokestir8
@Thejokestir8 Жыл бұрын
If only there was some kind of plant they could eat that grows just from rain and sunlight
@kidsdomath1330
@kidsdomath1330 Жыл бұрын
Photosynthesis requires a lot of water, so I don’t think that’s possible 🙁
@SuperNinjaTurtle7272
@SuperNinjaTurtle7272 Жыл бұрын
Apparently we’re in a drought and we are limited to watering our lawn. My local hospital has an enormous beautiful green lawn which I waters almost daily.
@chadachwilliam5515
@chadachwilliam5515 Жыл бұрын
My well gives me 3 gallons a minute(residential permit). Yet I use maybe ten gallons a day. I have fish pools, but they are also covered and protected from evaporation. Then my overflow goes into a drip system and nutrients for other edible landscaping. It’s soooo much setup and labor. Once the system is operating though, it’s easy to maintain. I like beef, all my county (orphan co) is bovine, but it’s becoming more necessary to diversify. Thanks for reading.
@unboundcuriosity
@unboundcuriosity Жыл бұрын
Interestingly some of these deserts weren't deserts a 150 years ago. Understanding how ecology and farming can work hand in hand will be our only way forward.
@Kriss_L
@Kriss_L Жыл бұрын
LA and San Diego were from the founding of the cities.
@napalm1101
@napalm1101 Жыл бұрын
Oh really? Tell us, which of those areas weren't deserts 150 years ago?? 😅😅
@Steven_Olson
@Steven_Olson Жыл бұрын
Interesting point. I wonder if that water usage breakdown holds true for every region or water basin though. It would be interesting to see that.
@guestkung
@guestkung Жыл бұрын
I love the video presentation. Easy to understand, informative and presentation is really great 👍🏻
@liamdavis2387
@liamdavis2387 Жыл бұрын
Selfishness is a national trait of America. None of them are going to give up even the smallest convenience without a fight. That includes beef.
@bobbiusshadow6985
@bobbiusshadow6985 Жыл бұрын
Money is god, greed is the value.. "We, the people" isn't really true, more like "Me, the individual"
@stc3145
@stc3145 Жыл бұрын
You expect them to give up good things in life so China and India can continue to increase co2 polution over the next 10 years? How about stop having so many kids. If there was only 1 or 2 billion people, there would be enough resources for everyone
@nobodyspecial4702
@nobodyspecial4702 Жыл бұрын
Judgement is a national trait of all Europeans. None of them are going to stop pretending their superior to everyone else. Don't worry, if Russia decides to invade Europe, we'll ignore your attitudes and rescue you again.
@iamthepinkylifter
@iamthepinkylifter Жыл бұрын
and it's not like the beef alternatives are that inconvenient anyway. In 2022 all it really means is reaching your arm over 3 more feet to grab ground Impossible instead of ground beef.
@roninecostar
@roninecostar Жыл бұрын
@@iamthepinkylifter Its the same price, less fatty and drier. Ive read the food value and it contains alot more salt than meat. Theres just nothing going for it
@mastermavrick
@mastermavrick Жыл бұрын
Great info, but one key highlight that always baffles me.... Mass water intensive agriculture in a DESERT, like doesn't head make people scratch their heads in confusion is always beyond me.
@b.a.d.2086
@b.a.d.2086 Жыл бұрын
Somebody needs to unpave quite a few places that have become blight problems. It would open up quite a bit of new farmland in places that get rain. Unpave lots of abandoned Walmart parking lots. There are watermains right in the streets.
@mastermavrick
@mastermavrick Жыл бұрын
@@b.a.d.2086 So true, we forget because of a how car travel centered cultured we have in North America how much space is wasted on that. Sadly only so much can be done to overhaul infrastructure.
@havegottogitgud1864
@havegottogitgud1864 Жыл бұрын
I mean, is that really that rare of an occurrence throughout human history? (Mesopotamia, Egypt, etc...)
@fuchsia02
@fuchsia02 Жыл бұрын
@@havegottogitgud1864 I see your point, however those civilizations weren’t supporting half as many people.
@havegottogitgud1864
@havegottogitgud1864 Жыл бұрын
@@fuchsia02 Iraq nowadays has the same size and population as California.
@iamthepinkylifter
@iamthepinkylifter Жыл бұрын
It is very alarming that people - including the professor featured in this video - genuinely, blindly act as if their taste buds are more important than keeping their home habitable. If the people who study the consequences of this behavior for a living can't be assed to switch to Impossible burgers, I have very little hope for humanity's ability to avert climate catastrophe. When your tap runs dry and you inevitably become a climate refugee, will all those cheeseburgers have been worth it?
@sgt.thundercok4704
@sgt.thundercok4704 Жыл бұрын
In Colorado, summer water demand is 4x winter demand. That's how much water goes to keep Kentucky blue grass alive in a high plains desert.
@Andy.mikhail137
@Andy.mikhail137 Жыл бұрын
Next step: lab grown beef, and protein crickets.. On serious note: they need to have way more vertical farms (it saves like 90% of the water used).. I'm sure billy gates will be doing that in the near future while owning the most farm land in the US
@Aria0101
@Aria0101 Жыл бұрын
I’m will not live in a pod and I will not eat the bugs
@stc3145
@stc3145 Жыл бұрын
Rather shoot myself than eat bugs
@Ewr42
@Ewr42 Жыл бұрын
@@Aria0101 you eat bugs already, they're in most industrialized products. Also, in powder form made into pancakes? You wouldn't know it. But c'mon, where's the diy mammal cell culture 3d printer already?
@Aria0101
@Aria0101 Жыл бұрын
@@Ewr42 I have no problem with eating bugs in extremely minimal quantities that I can’t even see
@Aria0101
@Aria0101 Жыл бұрын
@@Ewr42 pancakes are only good from scratch anyways
@justin___
@justin___ Жыл бұрын
I love that policy that determines whether or not humans can survive is swayed by the persuasive argument "BUT I WANNNNT ITTTTT!"
@TexasFire_Cross
@TexasFire_Cross Жыл бұрын
That’s what LA said to Owens Valley in the late 1800s/early 1900s, regarding their water.
@marksizer3486
@marksizer3486 Жыл бұрын
That is the definition of "policy" in places where people vote - it's the thing people want. Why else would it be done?
@justin___
@justin___ Жыл бұрын
@@marksizer3486 Because we might not have enough water in the desert to survive? Sometimes mob rules don't, you know, work.
@KwizzyDaAwesome
@KwizzyDaAwesome Жыл бұрын
I had to go dairy and beef free for my health, but it's the same decision either way: do I want to leave a better world for my kids (one where I'm in it) or not?
@respectmathias
@respectmathias Жыл бұрын
Where is the segment discussing use it or lose it clauses? I think it is pretty essential to descuss when talking about why farmers use so much water.
@respectmathias
@respectmathias Жыл бұрын
Aka the segment Last Week Tonight did
@wkuser
@wkuser Жыл бұрын
Shout out to the art director here! Nicely done.
@joeybaseball7352
@joeybaseball7352 Жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@marylizabetha
@marylizabetha Жыл бұрын
Fallowing just sounds like holding water hostage for ransom. What I want to know is, are we talking about local farms or are these farms owned by mega corporations that are trying to meet a bottom line?
@iamthepinkylifter
@iamthepinkylifter Жыл бұрын
nearly all "local" farms are either owned by or under contract with a "mega corporation". They have a near total (as in - literally - 99 percent) monopoly on meat, dairy, and egg production in the US. Almost every farmer on this continent is beholden to their bottom line.
@holliswanson2029
@holliswanson2029 Жыл бұрын
In this California drought year today is the October 1 beginning of the rainy season and at my home on the beach in Northern California our reservoir if over 90% capacity and my own rain gauge gathered a little over 33 inches of rain in the past year. We spent a year traveling 40,000 miles through 11 states looking for our retirement home and partially due to NASA, NOAA, and US Navy data we garnered reading An Convenient Truth we settled here. We could not be happier after 6 years of rainfall. Location, location, location.
@Wintercat1
@Wintercat1 Жыл бұрын
This is an even more important solution than axing the cattle industry, but unfortunately even less likely to happen on a large scale. We should not be wasting massive amounts of natural resources to make hinterlands habitable and farmable just to tap into the lucrative markets of housing and livestock. In Utah, the Salt Lake Valley is actually fairly sustainable location because agricultural water usage ends up back in the Salt Lake, continuing the local water cycle. However the Valley has filled up with sprawling suburban development and we're piping water from the reservoirs out into the desert to water the farms, rather than down to the Salt Lake to replenish its levels.
@wayneharless5073
@wayneharless5073 Жыл бұрын
We grow very little alfalfa in Missouri by comparison but have robust beef production. But we have a seasonal cycle we have to respect.
@massimookissed1023
@massimookissed1023 Жыл бұрын
20 years into a drought: _"Hey guys, should we conserve water ?"_ The next asteroid can't come soon enough.
@boxtears
@boxtears Жыл бұрын
Only if it wipes out the American southwest
@chrisaycock5965
@chrisaycock5965 Жыл бұрын
As I've said before the western water compact is a huge issue it was made 100 years ago and one of the things that needs to be redone. Also better irrigation practices. Obviously growing food in the desert is weird to begin with.
@b.a.d.2086
@b.a.d.2086 Жыл бұрын
You're correct. However don't underestimate politicians and "growth." Utah is bending over to "attract" big tech and more government facilities. We're already a huge low level nuclear waste facility. The CIA mops up a good portion of the Jordan river and the gentrification in every little building spot is appalling. If I were younger I'd go to places like Detroit and start plowing when all the burned and abandoned homes were. Kids with lighters get bored around plants.
@rorypaul153
@rorypaul153 Жыл бұрын
How is growing crops that need sun where the most sun is “weird”?
@chrisaycock5965
@chrisaycock5965 Жыл бұрын
@@rorypaul153 because the climate in general while well suited doesn’t get sufficient long term rain. Agriculture uses the majority of the water which in itself isn’t an issue but we don’t get sufficient water to meet those needs.
@ElDredlord
@ElDredlord Жыл бұрын
Is not weird, crops can grow year round
@chrisaycock5965
@chrisaycock5965 Жыл бұрын
@@ElDredlord context here I see is needed I’m talking about from a water standpoint there was never enough water for wide scale farming for long drawn out periods of time. It is a desert. It seemed perfectly reasonable 100 years ago but with so many thirsty crops reliant on very few water sources something will give.
@mikeluque6527
@mikeluque6527 Жыл бұрын
We need to stop subsidizing beef for fast food restaurants. It's fast food. Those prices are completely unattached to the reality of the costs.
@wizi9
@wizi9 Жыл бұрын
Agriculture in the middle of the desert wasn't a good idea
@solsol9515
@solsol9515 Жыл бұрын
This
@theonewhosleptin4378
@theonewhosleptin4378 Жыл бұрын
Doesn't growing crops in the desert require more water than not growing in a desert? Whose idea was it to start farms in a desert?
@zacharybob4336
@zacharybob4336 Жыл бұрын
Hurricanes, torrential rains, tornadoes, and over population make the rest of this country unsuitable for crop production on the scale that were referencing in this video.
@Peter-ff3rr
@Peter-ff3rr Жыл бұрын
If we replaced the cow feed with vegetables we eat, would the water consumption be higher or lower? Which plant requires the least amount of water for the most calories?
@liberationtoday8968
@liberationtoday8968 Жыл бұрын
Animals are extremely inefficient in converting plant calories to meat calories. Cows specifically consume about 25 calories of plants to produce 1 calorie of beef. So we would have to grow around 25x less plants if we just ate them directly.
@Ap_twsh
@Ap_twsh Жыл бұрын
this didn't surprise me. I live in a town that is known for providing the world with vegetables. they have the sprinklers going off in the middle of the day not even spraying the plants.
@virginiazeller9852
@virginiazeller9852 Жыл бұрын
This does not take into account that most bees currently survive on alfalfa to make honey. Where will we be without the bees?
@TheLiamster
@TheLiamster Жыл бұрын
I think using “smart irrigation” techniques such as automated valves that open and close on their own or water recycling and reuse systems would help farmers save a lot of water. Even something as simple as fixing leaky pipes would conserve water
@kaitlyn__L
@kaitlyn__L Жыл бұрын
Lots of water companies lose a huge amount of water everyday because they don’t want to fix their pipes :/ so I agree, that should be a minimum conservation measure to ensure a baseline for other policies to work on
@zacharybob4336
@zacharybob4336 Жыл бұрын
Totally irrelevant to farming, irrigation water is rarely piped in significant distance from the point at which farmers have control of it and you're not going to collect the water used to irrigate and reuse it. Your thinking highlights the disconnect between city dwellers and the reality of their food sources.
@markferenc8126
@markferenc8126 Жыл бұрын
you're also forgetting about how water rights laws largely work in western states. Water conservation means using less water, which means by law the amount of water you get to use next year is reduced. Nobody has the incentive to conserve water in the Western U.S. This is first and foremost a problem with bad policy
@mehmeterenball9125
@mehmeterenball9125 Жыл бұрын
Just a few years ago I couldn't ever think cows and cattles cause lots and lots of problems that each has a huge impact on our lives and earth. Our water, our air, weather temperature, shores, lands and etc.
@joshhton1035
@joshhton1035 Жыл бұрын
My California city just had a humungous cattle ranch sold to the State of California that will be used for mixed use of water rights and indigenous Ohlone practitioners.
@eh3477
@eh3477 Жыл бұрын
Which ranch was this, in which county? Sonoma?
@rohitprajapati2303
@rohitprajapati2303 Жыл бұрын
Amazing video ,Great story telling ,from problem statement to inference
@welshzecorgi7903
@welshzecorgi7903 Жыл бұрын
Eating ourselves to death seems to mean something else in this context.
@hechss
@hechss Жыл бұрын
There are so many signs telling us to gradually shift our diets towards plant-based... Unfortunately there's little incentive for companies to encourage that, since it would decrease their production.
@ANMA133
@ANMA133 Жыл бұрын
Precisely. Also, people that just don't want to change because of their 'addiction' and 'loyalty' to meat. People just don't want to leave their food comfort zone and begin giving far fetched excuses such as "Grass fed cows don't have any environmental impact" and "It's part of the governments ploy" etc. When in fact the leading cause of forest deforestation is for cattle grazing.
@roveriia6334
@roveriia6334 Жыл бұрын
Subsidies to not use water?!!!! How about exercising eminent domain and forcing farming corporations to sell the land to the Federal government for fair market value and leasing it back to them if and when water is available? How about not using our water to ship grains to countries with little to no civil rights or women's rights? How about the farming corporations buy land where there is water and ship the meat and produce to areas without water? How about agreements with states with water but less sunshine to allow water rites to sunshine states that provide meat and produce. So many solutions but to pay corporations to not use water ... Shameful
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