IDGAF what Disney says, Revan and Galen Marek are canon to me

Can't we all just agree that Revan has the most badass uniform ever?

imagine if Galen was Revan's apprentice.

As overpowered as Starkiller might seem, in a battle of wills, he doesn't hold a candle to Revan. The man withstood 300 years of mental and physical torture from Vitiate with the aid of the Dread Masters, with his own willpower being great enough to utilize his connection with the emperor to influence Vitiate's actions, all while sustaining himself with nothing but the force. Now THAT is willpower.

Is it just me who thinks they should make a trilogy of the rise and fall of Revan? I think it'd be an awesome movie trilogy.

Am I the only one who watches these matchups for the history lesson?

"Revan was power. It was like staring into the heart of the Force. Even then, you could see the Jedi he would slay etched on his soul." ―Kreia Coming from Kreia, I'd say that's a pretty strong comment in regards to the Revan's force strength arguments.

We need a Darth Revan Movie.

"I have fought Mandalores and armies of the Dark Side. You won't stop me!" -Revan

Man keanu reeves would be an aweseome revan 😁

These two badasses are reasonable and kind at heart. What a team they would have been.

A drug addled, emaciated Revan was able to floor a full power Pre-Voice Vitiate fuelled by his own throne room and surrounded by force empowered bodyguards. With added visions of victory for Revan. Then Revan Reborn returns "far more powerful than ever" when he'd already been described pre-reborn as being "one of the most powerful force users ever". This is including the fact that he now resembled an aushwitz victim due to 300 years of torture by Vitiate and an entire sith council. He takes on the man who would defeat Vitiate plus the entire strike team, despite being a skinny emaciated mess, having absorbed and survived the force backlash of a machine that could destroy armies...and who kills him?....Himself Logically Revan Reborn > Vitiate If that is the case then galen stands even less of a chance.

They need to remake knights of the old republic

REVAN! REVAN! REVAN! REVAN! REVAN! REVAN!

Revan has arguably just as much speed and quickness as Starkiller, but far more experience and far better tactics. Not to mention he allegedly knows all 7 forms of lightsaber combat where as Starkiller only knows 3. So yeah, I'd say Revan has this one 7 or 8 out of 10 times. The only thing Starkiller has going for him is brute strength...maybe durability as well.

As much as I love Galin and want him to win, I do agree that Revan would win.

I can destroy planets. If the creators said Revan is more powerful than me, then Galen does not stand a chance.

Revan is essentially Galen Marek on steroids. Hell he's basically the Anakin Skywalker before Anakin Skywalker and although he may not have been able to reach the full extent of Anakin's true potential Revan was still able to achieve a good fraction of what Anakin would've become if he reached his prime. So with that said Revan stomps Marek easily.

I disagree with star killers fighting analysis, he seemed to be driven by emotion too often than not and unable to keep a level head. This could lead to revan taking advantage of this in combat. Giving into his anger would amplify his dark side ability but would lead to irrational attacks and leave openings in his defence for revan to exploit.

overrated, they may be. but both have amazing fucking stories and are probably my favourite legends characters

Fight suggestions: Boba Fett Vs. Jango Fett Luke Skywalker Vs. Rahm Khota Jango Fett Vs. Han Solo Chewbacca Vs.Zaalbar Leia Vs. Padme Rancors Vs. Acklays Mace Windu Vs. Revan Darth Maul Vs. General Grievous.

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Revan would wreck starkiller. No one in star killers Era has known any measure of the war Revan has survived and won through. Even Anakin could not match it, not even close. Palpatine may be the greatest darksider, but being a sorcerer and a warmaster are two different things entirely. Revan won the mandalorian wars, nearly won the sith wars for the Sith, and then defeated his own progress and won the sith wars for the Jedi, virtually singlehanded (in most cases). And we haven't even left KOTOR 1 lore. Revan lived in a time of war and devastation which would make the current galactic struggle look like a bad skirmish, he was the skywalker of his time, he is likely born of the exact same phenomenon. In fact, at his true peak and center, Revan was likely comparable to Grand Master Luke Skywalker, though not greater. He was sith and jedi and more, and thats just the first game.

Revan was known to be capable of combating a half a dozen force users at a time. How could Revan not win?

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All you guys saying that Palpatine and star killer, Luke etc. are the greatest force users ever obviously have never heard of Darth Plaguies who could literally create life with the force. And Revan stood toe to toe with a Sith emporer who was millennial in age and who could literally drain entire planets of all there life, this Sith emporer was perfection in every aspect and the fact that Revan almost beat him just blows Starkiller out of the water. Revan would toast star killer. It's not even a close fight.

Revan survived 3 games. Starkiller suurvived 1 game. Revan wins

For Galen's dueling skills, you could say he was a Niman user as well. He may not have been very moderate, but he combined multiple styles, and weaved Force Abilities into his strikes.

I see so much hate on Galen Marek, he's a great sith turned Jedi but from what I here revan could beat him

"In my book: Experience outranks everything." Sums this up.

Imagine revan taking starkiller as his apprentice. or the otherway round it don't matter. I personally think that it would be awesome

This is a really well made video, however I believe Revan would have absolutely anihilated Galen. Revan's tactics force ability and experience were far greater, with potentially only Galen's agility and speed being greater than Revan's.

I think Reven would win indeed but not like that. Merak has years of training and months of actual combat. Reven has decades of training, decades of actually combat and not with just old broken jedi he fought the greatest masters of light and dark of his day as well as real mandalorians not broken fetts. The advantage of experience can make worlds of difference in combat as well as it can in many other realms of life.

I don't know if you listened to the Revan Expanded Lore but his force lighting was able to completely disintegrate a powerful Darth (i do apologies as i forgot the name). Not only that but Revan's own lightning briefly outmatched vitiate in a fight they had :) I hope this helped in some way :)

I might have liked old Revan but not the dark side shadow that lingered. I find Galen Merrick's move into the light out of seemingly impossible darkness personally inspiring.

Not saying that Galen should have won but the fact that the comparison was a 300+ year old legend against a early 20’s prodigy kinda shows how powerful Galen could have become.

Damian Wayne™ Revan vs Starkiller, Kotor vs Force Unleashed.

Revan, hero of multiple wars, Grey jedi, so force sensitive that he was able to almost take over the mind of one of the true Sith race, and able to mind fuck and curb stomp Palpatine AND Darth Vader with his eyes damn near closed at the same time. Garen Malak, unique force sensitive almost as strong as Darth Vader, was Vader's best trainee, the real one who ACTUALLY started the rebellion against the empire. ...............yeah..... Revan would destroy him.

I'd love to see revan vs thrawn in a battle of tactics and strategy, say a fleet battle with evenly matched fleet.

There is also an age and experience gap Galen was only 17 while Revan in his prime was 25-30

lol "endurance was not an issue for revan", best line in the whole video

does any body else watch a star wars show and just compare them to garen malek

I love the way you put the fights together. Its almost like listening to an audiobook. And the visuals fill in the gaps and make me REALLY PICTURE what's happening. And the music choices are great!

I feel you forgot that Force Drain could be used to offset Galen's ability with pain tolerance. It is a demanding force power, but Galen has no defense against it, and it would heal Revan while wounding Galen. The games show that Revan can use it in combat with lightsaber wielding foes. Also, Revan could use Force breach to crack Galen's force defenses, a technique Galen himself never uses.

If Revan actually fought him I'd think he'd say he was one of his hardest opponents.

Actually Starkiller wasent redirecting a star destroyer he was trying to crash it into the planet which he succeded in doing.

I compare star killer to Obi Wan, both having inhumane levels of pain tolerance, except much more offensive, and Obi Wan being way more defensive

Imagine if Revan had taken Starkiller as his apprentice. Such awesomeness would have ensured.

Revan is considered overrated and overpowered? I don't think I agree with this for several reasons. First, I want to address the fact that I think that Revan is one of the best Star Wars characters overall (ignoring his appearance in SWTOR). I don't like him because of his power or abilities but because of his importance and influence to the galaxy as a whole. He changed it completely by being what he is, a leader. He lead the Republic against the Mandalorians (a powerful force to be reckoned with) against the council's wishes, saving the galaxy. He lead the REMNANTS of his decimated fleet against the Republic and grew enough to establish a stable Empire, and then he saved the galaxy once more by leading a small group to defeat Darth Malak aboard the Star Forge. He absolutely changed the galaxy in a way others would never even imagine was possible. Now, the reason I think he isn't overpowered is a simple one. He was a prodigy in the Force from a very young age and accomplished several impressive feats in his life. However, we must also think about what would be considered a prodigy in his era. That era was a time when the Jedi were not all that impressive. Masters of the order were few and far apart. Remember that the Order was almost destroyed only40 years prior during the Exar Kun War. The greatest examples of powerful Force users would be maybe Kreia, The Exile, The Jedi High Council, Master Vandar and Darth Malak (pre Kotor 2 btw). All powerful in their own right, but few really qualifying to be really powerful force users. When contrasting this era to one filled with great masters, such as the Clone Wars (Obi Wan Kenobi, Mace Windu, Yoda, Kit Fisto, Count Dooku, Darth Sidious, etc) you can see that a prodigy would be a much more impressing thing. Take Anakin Skywalker for instance. He was considered the chosen one, a master of the force, a natural and with amazing abilities. To be considered this amazing he would have had to be compared next to masters like the ones previously stated and that is truly amazing, to surpass such standards. Back to Revan, he was powerful in the Force and had extraordinary abilities for sure, but when compared to other masters from other eras, that is pretty average for a high class force user. Not average in his time mind you, but seen as great and above all other standards. His abilities with a lighsaber were in his time exceptional, and here I do think that he deserves to be seen as a great master in overall Galactic History with incredible fights with powerful adversaries such as Mandalore the Ultimate and Darth Malak, even though most of his other fights would likely be against much lesser foes than him. And his Force abilities were strong for sure but I wouldn't put him as a ridiculously powerful character, in fact, I think that if he ever had to face against, say, Obi Wan Kenobi then he would have a very hard time and would most likely lose (ignoring the progression of techniques that would obviously happen in over 3500 years) but it would be close. Revan's true strength comes from his mind. His ingenuity, his knowledge, his intellect, his willingness to make sacrifices and ,most importantly, his leadership. He saved and conquered the galaxy not by his individual feats, but by his ability to convince and lead individuals and make some true change in the galaxy. Without allies, he wouldn't have accomplished what he did. Kreia even said it herself. She saw the same thing in the Exile, and saw that that would be the deciding factor to how influential they could be. So, in conclusion, I don't think Revan is as strong as most people think. He is powerful indeed, strong enough to content against many of the Masters in Galactic History. However, his greatness doesn't come from raw power or ability. Revan is not a one man army, he is one man that leads armies to change the Galaxy forever.

doesn't anyone else think that the fight would favor revan way more heavily?

Dude, you have to know that I love your versus videos! I learn so much Lore behind each character and their pasts! Keep up the great work! Definitely worth a like and subscribe!

Seeing the greatest of the Grey Jedi do battle with one another would be nothing short of astounding.

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I still refuse to recognise Bioware's butchering of KoTOR 1-2's canon, especially regarding Revan.

This is by far, my favorite fight on this channel. I would pay good money to see this animated.

Man all these characters deserve some homage... they were so good!

actually starkiller can mix the force with his lightsaber abilities better then revan. he can use the force in His hand and transfers it into his saber and you can't deflect that when a saber with lightning in it is coming towards you with such power.

To me, the story of Revan from KOTOR was always what Lucasfilm should have made happen with Anakin. They seem so alike in so many ways. Revan will always be my favorite from that era.

This was the first ever videos of yours that I saw and it's by far my favourite, I utterly enjoy how you do the vs series and this is my all-time favorite.

I want to see Revan vs Mace Windu. The Battle of the balance Warriors

REVAN REBORN owns both Galen and Vader. He was born out of the force itself.

As of SoR Revan is within the top 5 force wielders only Luke, Sideous and arguably vitiate could defeat Revan Reborn. Revan wins this.

Ah, two of the most (if not the very most) beloved characters from Legends.

I just love starkiller favourite person in all of Star Wars so good with force and lightsaber dualing and he broke out of the dark side and joined the light

Starkiller infused the force in his lightsaber strikes i never seen revan do that

What we all need to realize is this: These two might be legitimately unstoppable if the pair worked together

Didn't watch this but RIP Galen Starkiller Marek

I have missed ur star wars vs series videos man! Great job great characters 2!

theory: galen's mind was put into a clones body

If you look at the force unleashed II E3 trailer, you can see that Starkiller can also turn everybody within an 8m (26,5 ft) range or so (not very good in estimating distances) into ash and killing everybody that stood farther than that.

At first I thought this channel to be a simple rehashing of the common comparison-by-round videos, but staying through the entire video rewarded me with in-depth commentary and a thought-out theoretical duel. Props to you, sir.

Well this was the first vs I had seen of your Chanel so good work and keep it up It’s interesting

Revan ! DUh ! Why even ask such a stupid question !

Those two as master and apprentice would forge a new and terrifying force order to shake the galaxy to its foundation in any age.

Wow, really long video for my tastes, but I thoroughly enjoyed it. Well thought out. Lots of research, evidence, and examples to everything you put in. First video of yours I've watched, but probably won't be the last. These are two of my favorite force wielders so far. So I was really happy watching all of this. ^_^

so far this is in my opinion the best video you have made, my 2 favorite force users facing off against eachother, i didn't want either person to win

Ok I have 2 brilliant fight ideas. 1.StarKiller vs Legend Grievous 2.Boba Fett vs Durge

Even if we take away the overpowerness. I still claim Revan. Why? The facts. Revan had many masters. Revan had many battles. He joined a war and with his help turned the entire thing around. Galen was trained by Vader. He had plenty of fights. However, I wouldn't say they were on par with the war Revan was in, nor the enemies. Not saying Revan's enemies were A LOT stronger, but they were mandalorians. Basically the toughest and ruthless race out there. I mean if we go by games...well...they both were extremely overpowered lol. I mean malek forced a Star Destroyed to crash. And book wise, Revan took on the sith Emperor and actually stood his ground. Unless we are going to claim the ancient emperor was a wimp. But again, going off books and games...we get crazy. Basically fanfic and blah balh. Who is more godly .

There is no one stronger then me !

Somebody needs to animate your description of this battle. Cause it's awesome.

Just a small glimpse at how OP tor made Revan... Revan can beat the combined strength of Darth Traya and the Jedi Exile (Meetra Surik) in battle. "If the Exile could defeat Kreia, Revan would have an easier time of it. (; United with the Exile, Kreia and the Exile vs. Revan? My money’s still on Revan, since in my mind, Revan was a master strategist as well as an extremely powerful Force wielder." ―Chris Avellone (Knights of the Old Republic 2 Head Writer) "So my opinion is that Revan could kick the Exile’s ass..." ―Chris Avellone (Knights of the Old Republic 2 Head Writer) A comparison of Revan's Raw Power compared to Dooku ect. At: www.comicvine.com/profile/darthant66/blog/revans-raw-power-comparison/97193/

Before I watch this video (posted 10 seconds in) I believe that both of these characters are very balanced towards each other in similar ways, tied between the dark side and light, the Jedi and Sith. Both having similar characteristics, such as dual lightsabers, using both sides of the force to their advantage and how powerful each one is, I believe will be a great and close "match".

I'd love to see your analysis of a fight between two of the SW Universe's most inept characters, whomever they would be.

revan vs anybody........revan....near god abilities.

Of all the Versus Series guys, you have the best voice. Everyone else seems to have issues speaking for some reason.

30:47 "Bushido is realized in the presence of death. This means choosing death whenever there is a choice between life and death. There is no other reasoning." - Yamamoto Tsunetomo Revan wins: Pyrrhic Victory

In the Force Unleashed Galen deliberately makes the rebellion on Vader's orders to distract the Emperor so they could continue in secret

While I don't argue with the outcome, I would like to mention that Galen's style of combat was *exclusively* honed by fighting Jedi and other lightsaber wielders. But like you mentioned, it could be attributed to his use of offensive force use

Starkillers force wall might not have been great but he was able to break free of Vaders grip with a slight use of force repulse.

I am a starkiller fanboy...but i aggre that Revan would win

ive seen u mention revans abilities before and im playing kotor rn what about choke, plague and other abilities u can learn in the game? is the game less cannon than other examples or is there another reason?

I thought Starkiller's main fighting style would be Niman because of some of his combos like Sith Slash, Saber Smash etc. and his ability to infuse his saber with lightning

I loved TFU, and i love KOTOR. Revan is by far my favorite Force User, the first Grey Jedi, whom i adore. But all in all Revan could beat Galen in a fight no problem. I think it wouldnt be as close as you stated, but rather Revan getting in a decisive blow with his lightsaber through his superiority in Lightsaber dueling, then using his superior force powers to beat Marek down eventually making Galen Marek unable to fight, before finishing him off with a final fatal blow. But of course they are both beat by Sidious, lol.

Antoine Bandele Hey, Antoine Bandele. This was great. I'd even like to see how Galen Marek fairs up against Jaden Korr from Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy. It's one of 10 I've suggested for you to do next in future. I can't wait to see Legends Grievous vs PROXY, or Canon Grievous vs Pong Krell.

Starkiller matched the master of force lightning and faltered for a moment. Sidious was the best at using force lightning.

"i will show you the power of the force - in balance!"

It was unknown of Galen Marek's true midichlorian count because Sidious had outlawed midichlorian count practices

Love the introduction

What is your opening and duel music?

now THIS was GORGEOUS