Yes, but I am a bit at a loss on this one, of course we want to show we found the problem, trust us, and we want to move on and fly again ASAP.... Ok fine, but I think I would feel more secure if those responsable were removed from their particular positions, they may have learned and you may keep them but not where they could endanger lives again... I really don't know what to think but I feel like we've heard this ''we don't want to blame anyone'' rather often these last few years, it could be me... but I don't want to lose my job so... Ha ha.

I think he was talking in more of a general sense. What I got from it is that there's no use in prioritizing to *blame* NASA as an organization, rather than make it a better one. In terms of individuals, it is very difficult to assign blame in the hierarchy of miscommunication he suspects the NASA was in. Also I am quite the hippie when it comes to punishments, so his statement resonated with me! :D (Though of course if there was one particularly faulty person, he should get demoted. But what I got from the speech is that NASA in general was acting foolish.)

Hi, from what I know they were all late, they all knew maybe something would go wrong but they chose to protect their jobs rather than people's lives so if they were all involved, you talk, you die, and a couple did but like 9/11, Iraq, the bank bailouts, no one was blamed and the people paid the bill so yes, NASA is important but if it's rotten, saying nothing is allowing corruption and could put more lives at risk so while I was writing I made my mind: the secrecy is over it's time for a cleanup from top to bottom and if my best friend or yours gets fired, so be it, corruption is illegal AND very expensive. Good, now where do we start? Ha ha...

"Teaching the child" is simple. Each manned flight includes NASA's current administrator.

+Roses and Songs Well, it's not like NASA _wanted_ the shuttle to be destroyed. I think it's important to consider intentions in these situations, and that's probably the reason Feynman wanted to move past the question of blaming specific people. Also, the important thing was to _fix_ the systemic problems at NASA, not dwell on who to throw under the bus. Besides, the person who was primarily responsible for pressuring Thiokol into approving the launch (Lawrence Mulloy) was forced into early retirement by NASA shortly after _Challenger_ was lost and about 3 years before he would've qualified for full retirement benefits. It may not sound "harsh" enough for some people, but Mulloy's otherwise excellent record and multi-decade career ended in complete shame so there _were_ consequences for his actions. Unfortunately, the gist of Feynman's work on the Rogers Commission (i.e. the Space Shuttle will _always_ be an experimental craft so you need to listen to your engineers' concerns and *NOT* simply assume everything will be OK just because _so far_ nothing bad has happened) was all but ignored by NASA resulting in the loss of _Columbia_ 17 years later.

I started the Conclusion of my PhD thesis with this citation.

"No one can contravene the laws of nature...but you can use them if you're clever." JW Campbell

"Facts are stubborn things"--John Adams

@@vsrr83 Excellent choice and novel. Are you comfortable describing the topic? Thank you for sharing Dr.!

@@philgiglio9656 Use means? For what usage is required ? To play the game of mind ?

the process is actually pretty interesting

Pelon OOE I feel like I'm going to regret this but... How so?

RandomRoulette Ha ha. That actually makes sense. I'm sure Feynman would be able to describe it beautifully.

I thought he did at one point

@@esraeloh8681 I'd like to hear the feynmann version

The interviewer was respected too. Not making him say a few words and then cutting him off to show pictures of cats.

The space program wasn't perceived as partisan then. It was American. And also, as NDT usually argues, it made people dream about the future. Today, most of the science that hits the news has a party line attached to it, one way or the other. The closest analogue I can think of today for public enthusiasm in the human project of science, with no party divide, is SpaceX. I think it's really interesting that space is once again the frontier of human advancement that captures that sentiment. Perhaps Tesla, by mere association with Elon Musk's vision of the future that also permeates SpaceX, will be able to gain a similar foothold for science in public perception, but in the currently-partisan area of climate change.

Unfortunately, science (I should say, "science") is far more politicized today. Allowing itself to be co-opted has undermined its own credibility.

Also, you would not be able to put modern physics on TV today. No layman would have a chance of understanding it. Just look how scared idiots got about LHC.

All we have today is terrorism, war, and other fear propaganda. It's hard to watch the news without either turning depressed or paranoid.

He would never have stood by for the 2020 - 2022 disaster either

It’s not a coincidence that the global warming scam started soon after his death.

If alive Dr Feynman would prove many inconsistencies in mRNA vaccines concept.

what r u referring to? @@texluh

I have known about him for years. Search for Oppenheimer's Letter about Feynman after the bomb project.

With a kind 🫀.

He was a legend

@@davidnewman8629 Read more about him and it becomes clear....I think he's still the only man/person to see a nuclear blast with his own eyes, Google it buddy!....

Everyone talks about his brain size, but no one talks about his ball size - standing up to the entire US government and not standing down.

more than a genius. One of my favorite quote about feybmen is: There are two types of genius. Ordinary geniuses do great things, but they leave you room to believe that you could do the same if only you worked hard enough. Then there are magicians, and you can have no idea how they do it. Feynman was a magician. -Hans Bethe

Good point

+Eddie Hayes Yes, there is another interview where he says this was his wife. And his second book "What Do You Care What Other People Think?" also describes his wife telling him that. That is a good book and covers the rogers commission in detail. Along with the Engineers he met who pointed him in the right direction. All the NASA engineers new exactly what was wrong. But all had jobs and did not want to rock the boat. So they fed Feynman all that was wrong. Its a fascinating story.

There's a fascinating story about how an engineer showed him something about some O-ring seals in his car, that gave Feynman the idea that they were perhaps the cause of the accident. Of course Feynman was no fool, he realized that he was essentially passed on information that the engineers already knew. What he, apparently, never realized that the original source was Sally Ride, the first American woman in space, and Feynman's own colleague on the commission.

Nasa is fake

Wow.. you met him.. wow wow .. did you speak to him.

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Me too. I've finally begun his hour-lecture series, that seems to be all that's left.

Yeah he seems not to be uploading much these days

+M Hoppy I agree. It takes a genius to take a complex situation and clearly explain it as an allegory anyone can follow. Even me.

I think the situation is somewhat more complex and reflects problems in societal level than just in the management of individual companies in the space industry. Profitability of a company is often highly dependent on being able meet deadlines, which often forces management to take risks. If a manager has to choose between career advancement linked to some risk and possible bankruptcy, the choice is often clear and the risk is hidden with PR. Feynman is a creature of the academic world, where problems with deadlines and PR certainly exist but do not play such a central role. Note that what we are talking about is a multi-billion dollar project with probably hundreds of subcontractors. If you want to get completely different view of what happened, read Judson Lovingoods review of Challenger Disaster movie in the IMDB.

Everybody now working in commercial-spaceflight projects should see this video...Dr. Feynman has left a warning for all time here (I say that as the son of a toolmaker who worked on both the Apollo and Space Shuttle Orbiter vehicle-assembly projects). His basic analysis of the physics behind the Challenger disaster, makes appallingly clear some VERY senior managers' abdications of responsibility....

But the child didn't learn, and did the same thing again in 2003. They just didn't fix a longterm issue with foam detaching from the ex tank. It was ok before...we've got away with it before, seemed to be the attitude again. Unfortunate they hung onto the shuttle another 8yrs. Lucky no further disasters on NASA's rap sheet. 17yrs from Challenger to Columbia. Now 17yrs on from Columbia. Is NASA's attitude gonna catch them out again??

@@vsrr83 That's an interesting analysis, thanks.

there are still people like him around, you just have to look

Exactly how I feel...I make a point of showing videos of him to my high school students....particularly his "Fun to Imagine" video (available on KZfaq)

Me too.

@@kashu7691 Agreed and while it's sad that he's gone I would add that I'm just glad that he lived and now his words and lectures are preserved for future generations. People might die but good ideas live on

He lives on in those who take his words to heart - those who keep their childlike wonder and happiness alive, no matter what life and the system throws.

That's why he was so brilliant as a Physicist. He saw things simplistically.

Always said this, the word is thrown about a lot these days but I think he truly was one.

There is no doubt he was brilliant. And to a rare degree. But there is more to it than that. There's a quote from Einstein to the effect that people think physics is about intelect. But that they are wrong, it is about character. Einstein meant honesty and integrity in context. Feynman was the kind of person who would follow the data and try extremely hard not to let himself be fooled by some elegant theory or clever argument. Always he would look for evidence, evidence, more evidence. And he would search the evidence for something that might be fooling him. And he didn't stop searching the evidence just because he got to a place that agreed with his current pet hypothesis. He wanted to extract the best possible picture of the truth. He wanted to test it from every possible angle and by every possible method. That, combined with his brilliance, was a magnificent thing.

Well said. A person like him is born every thousand years or more.

Don't forget he also played the drums.

what exactly do you mean by "left and right brain"? Everyone uses both sides of their brains.

@@freebornjohn2687 And was quite successful with women.

the man was admittedly mysognistic and openly treated women as disposable garbage if they denied his repeated advances. He was publicly proud of that treatment of women. He was domestically abusive and cheated on his wife. There is absolutely no denying his contribution to the world and field of science. Beyond you and I can ever fully understand. But he didn't contribute much in the way of "being warm hearted"

It could easily go the other way, with the children being the engineers -- smart kids who came up with ideas -- and the mothers (management) rejecting them for their own reasons that the children wouldn't understand.

@@paulgibby6932 Sorry; but not really ! The engineers were dealing in facts, & numbers; while the management could only deal in slogans, & emotion. No matter how much the the management chanted the slogans; you still can't get a gallon to fit in a pint pot !

@@fishfoodie I think engineers are often deployed by mangers on problems that the deployers have no intention of actually solving. They can get all the right answers but there is no intention of acting on the results. e.g. global warming... for other examples, some wise person help me please.

@@paulgibby6932 truly delusional take

Beautiful wasn't it....

Feynman was awesome

How far the news has fallen.

Hang on...what you are trying to do is measure the modern media with Jim Lehrer. This isn't a fair fight. Jim was the purest form of journalist with the highest level of integrity and hunger for all of the facts regardless of outcome. He just wanted truth. A lot of people will forget he was a conservative due to his nature of allowing the interviewee to deliver the story without a heavy slant toward his beliefs or am editorial pulpit. I miss seeing him leading 'News Hour' and I'm an Australian who was never directly affected by the news his show presented. Still, I relished the hours of essays, deep dives and casual intellectual conversations Jim brought into my lounge room.

Explained succinctly and with mindfulness as to his audience.

after one year I'm sure you've completed every video recording of his??

after four years I'm sure he has memorized everything Feynman said in every video

+drstrangelove09 I love your profile pic!

vsrr83 Thanks! It's my favorite movie!

Lumpawarrump scarred me for life Hahaha!

+Lumpawarrump scarred me for life Take my humble like,my good sir.

+drstrangelove09 This is called "Speaking Truth to Power". Feynman was nobody's buttboy.

Like working on physics in a strip bar :-) I'm reading "Surely You're Joking Mr. Feyman" at the moment. I've found a new hero and example. Mr. Feynman is amazing!

Don't do that to your kids, let them live their own lives not your ideal life.

Y can't u have n work on physics

Same for me. Love

you shouldn't make sure or force...just guide them and tell them people like Feynman are more important that Justin Bieber in their lives.

🤟😇

Total intellectual rockstar

Why compare a brilliant physicist to a rockstar? The title of a physicist should hold its own weight without having to be compared to an infamous musician

he sure does make complex and important physics concepts relatable with his nearly omniscient comprehension of the way everything in the world is related., but i read a few of the dozens of feynman books written in the 80s and 90s and some describe him as anything but humble. numerous reports of him, within minutes, telling anybody he was introduced to that he was a nobel prize winner.

@@TotallyOther Feynman's Caltech colleague (and fellow Nobel Prize-winner) Murray Gell-Mann found him irritating, the way he put so much time & energy into creating anecdotes about himself. And just generally being an asshole, like refusing to wash his hands after using the urinal and just before going to eat lunch at the Caltech cafeteria because it was illogical.

@@mt_gox fits with other stories i read about him. i read part of a biographical book on him and several people said they would informally bet on how many minutes passed between him meeting someone and the moment he mentioned his nobel prize.

Mulla Nasrudin "PS - I wish that Richard could have been part of the 9/11 Commission Report." Fuck. Who you kiddin. They didn't want to do the report in the first place, why would you have one of the best minds (not smartest, not most intelligent, but a unique and strong combination of all factors) ever on the face of the earth looking at it? A Feynman-type would have either given answers that certain people didn't want given, or he would have been killed.

+Bernadette Kerr: To clarify my point "They (Bush admin) didn't want to do the report to begin with, so why would they ask the likes of Feynman to look at it?" IOW the Bush admin wanted to push a very specific agenda and his 'report' wouldn't have supported it at all. Feynman et.al. and his kind would have laughed the entire preposterous retconned scenario off the table.

+Bernadette Kerr What do you mean. It is well established that an extremist group took control of Afghanistan and launched the 9/11 attacks soon after the collapse of their Soviet Government that followed the dissolution of the USSR.

Mulla Nasrudin Please introduce yourself

Same here. Probably the only video i havent seen of him. Its like the roast of NASA with feynman going solo lol

nice!

Best description I've heard by far.

He's a lot more than that. He's 100% the real thing. Not acting.

@@davidhutchinson5233 silly person, you've misunderstood a simple comment

Have you seen Tannu Tuva???? Check it out... His advanture....

@@vincentanguoni8938 yes I have seen that one ... it’s really getting harder and harder to find one which I haven’t seen ... and by the way I’m planning to visit that place whenever this pandemic will finally end .. and thanks for suggestion!

Have you seen a video where he openly suspect that he was "steered" in very subtle ways in that inquiries by people "that are smarter than me" ? I have that recollection but couldn't find it again

I'm a fan of Feynman as well , just discovered a biography love story called infinity and beyond which is nice movie about he and his wife in the early days............never knew about it till a couple of days ago !!!!......also a song about Feynman "what would Feynman do" by the Duelists......its on you tube as well............................Erik

no witch one was that ??? you got me interested @@periardm

David Hutchinson - His idol was Dirac.

Feynman was not a "Wizard". He was a scientist.

archive.org/details/whatdoyoucarewha00rich/page/204 Compare what he says here to what he says at 9:42. Hmm, which is the truth???

@@OhManTFE He's lying in this video, but for a good reason.

I mean even on his book surely you are joking mr feynman, he tells about some of his peers told hime media was a whore, and then he said the he reassured that later on on his life

Strange thing to say about an Nobel prize winning physicist.

Conspiracy? Everything is real what Physicist think and what they feel for nature they can prove it with formulas

@@siddharthisai2626 Formulas model and help support explanations but do not prove things. Finding inconsistencies in formulae can help disprove, but empirical evidence is needed to prove theories.

He had nothing to lose but his dignity, and he kept it. He was uncancleable at that point, and he was dying

depressing, isn't it, to go through the Challenger disaster and realize that basically, Columbia was the exact same thing: a problem they had witnessed and documented on multiple Space Shuttle flights but b/c it never caused a disaster, they became complacent. And again there was one stunning demonstration, where they fired a piece of foam about the size that broke off at the same relative speed at heat shield tiles, and were shocked that it left a hole in them. A literal smoking gun. MCAS is in some ways worse -- Boeing actively deceived government regulators and hid information from pilots and airlines. They never disclosed how they made MCAS four times more powerful over the course of development or that it would repeatedly engage -- and as far as I know they have never explained the latter phenomenon. And Boeing killed hundreds more people than NASA.

+P Robinson TX Unreal and so sad that 'bodies' can relegate such an intellectual's scientific opinions to an appendix. Depressing.

Well he didn’t call them Feynman diagrams in his lectures. Just diagrams

Well not anymore 😖

+borg22222 Even though the story of the Challenger investigation is fascinating, I personally didn't like the portrayal of Feynman by William Hurt. He somehow seemed smug and IMO wasn't able to convey Feynman's deep appreciation and fascination with nature.

Science is magic that works

I agree - the Film was brilliant, dramatized i know, but portrayed Feynman well. Brought me to these KZfaq Vids, and I haven't changed my mind. William Hurt portrayed Feynman very well indeed.

he is a hero, martyr and war victim, he died of cancer from working at los alamos on the bomb.

Yep. And he explained things so well in a way we could all understand it. He would attack a problem starting with the most obvious and simple cause first.

Assange is nobody.

+Michael Woods yes. We sent one clone in a frozen state to Tau Ceti, as ambassador for humanity. It will arrive there in about 65 thousand years.

I'm surprised you didn't say the Reagan administration blew up the shuttle over the control of oil. Or something else id|otic Reagan haters would say. Look Poindexter, ALL administrations don't want to hear the truth. Across all political lines. The Carter admin and the hostages. His admin didn't want to hear the cold hard truth that it would happen. The Johnson admin, didn't want to hear what really happened to Kennedy. The obama admin didn't want to hear about the unrest in the Middle East, and said Benghazi was "just a bump in the road." So know it off with your hatred.

And in our g - 2 calculations

If you disagree watch APOLLO 13.