Ok Mr V Told we get it you are a GS fan!.....and you seem obsessed with criticising the Multi V4!......I tested both the GS and the Multi V4, if you want shaft drive and economy pick the GS........if you want engagement, exclusivity, and garage appeal then pick the Multi V4, I did and have no regrets - it wins hands down!

Traded in my 20 R1250GS for a 21 Multistrada V4S 10 months ago, and the Ducati is a superior bike in every way!

Drive shaft. Well just look at BMW drive shaft failure rate. The metal comes from a butter facility. It isn't good. You also mention the price. You said the same about the GS and how it is the same price of a car. You also said the GS exhaust was as bad as hell. The BMW GS might be cheaper initially, but once you do the 'individualization' to add features that the Mulistrada has as standard, the price soon catches up. As for quieter bikes, well you can blame the EU for that. All part of regs. The EU like to screw everything up. Make up your mind.

Regarding the drive shaft...In that case why do the BMW keep chain systems in sports bike like S1000RR? As for the phone compartment it closes pretty nicely and with one simple finger press. its not supposed to be slapped clumsy like its demonstrated in the video...Regarding the power / throttle response you forgot to mention in which mode you were driving ...each setting responds differently and blurring the speedometer doesnt really tell how much the bike is actually accelerating or not (besides on 14:13 on your video it looks like a totally different response . As for the engine temp and riding it non stop for 2 hours in busy Portuguese city traffic did not made me perceive any discomfort whatsoever...Regarding the accessories price and being myself ex GS owner I would put BMW as much if not more expensive.

I am having a tough dilemma. I normally am a KTM bloke but recently I’ve been using my friends 2022 V4S Travel. The biggest question in my mind is the gas mileage. At the first test of 70km city commuting in Istanbul it consumed 7lt which means 10lt per 100km. I am now trying it again but if its like that I will give it a pass and but the 1290 instead. I am not talking about aggressive riding, heavy traffic from time to time but cmon 10lt is a lot for my riding style… I was getting 8lt max with my old 1190R if I was riding it aggressively. I will decide it next week and come back here to share the end result 😂

I owned a gs1200, Stelvio, Ktm 990, 2010 Multistrada, Africa Twin 1100 dct and many others. Chain adjustment is rarely needed, pay for gaz, enjoy life and acceleration and confort and all the good things this V4S offer - simple. BMW is for Cartesian engineers German type - Ducati is for passion, latin, emotion, pleasure.

I've been riding a chain drive for years now after owning a Super Tenere and I can attest shaft drives make all the difference. I even have an automatic chain luber (Scottoiler) and it saves me a lot of hassle with routine chain maintenance, but it's still not as good as having a shaft drive. Besides initial installation, the Scottoiler is quirky, you have to continually keep your eye on it and tweak it, and cast-off lube is very messy. Then there's still chain and sprocket replacement and chain adjustment. Any one thing isn't a big deal, but the sum total is a burden. As for sound and feel of the engine, if it matters to you, then it matters. Same with looks. You'll be riding any bike for years - in my experience, negatives wear on you and seem to get bigger, yet the positives never grow old. Being turned on while you ride is hugely important. Don't compromise on that for practical considerations, especially these days when you can have the best of both worlds (practicality and excitement), you just have to keep looking, even if it means waiting another year or two.

Want the twin? Buy the V2 or the 1260. Problem solved. With the v4, you now have a choice. Want shaft drive? Buy the GS. Problem solved, again. Why don't people ever critisize ktm for not having shaft drive? I know you love BMW, but get over it😅 Instead of only complaining, tell BMW to make a smooth quickshifter, and better compression and rebound damping on the suspension. Cheap plastic on the switchgear? I have had the switchgear replaced under warranty on 4 out of my 5 GS's. It's known for being bad. Poor handling compared to earlier versions? Never heard that one before, but ok.

I have had my V4S for a while and, of the items you listed, the only one I agree with is the phone compartment. My other complaint is that the fuel tank should have a larger capacity. In any event, thank you for your review and keep up with the good work!

As always, an interesting opinion. Had 5 GSA's since 2014, just bought a Multi V4 S, handling, suspension & wind protection are in a different league plus the fun factor is off the charts. I prefer shaft drive but improvements in chain technology & lubricants/cleaning products mean that chain drive is nowhere near such a pain as it used to be. I find that adjustment can be left to when a tyre change is required. The solution to the suit phone compartment is simple, don't use it, besides without vibration damping you risk ruining you expensive phone.

I stoped to watch when you said about sound, which is around 1:08. Man man man. change the exhaust system or put a slip on. Its a performance adv bike. Is the sound so cruisal to avoid it?

So, now I think that Truimph might be a better option than both BMW and Ducati...you gave me plenty of reasons to stay away from the S1000XR and Ducati Multistrada V4, so I should either stick with Japenese or try Truimph... Why don't you test out the latest Truimph Tiger 1200...

I agree on the drive shaft, like yeah chains give the most efficient power delivery, they’re light and (relatively) cheap should they break or need replacing. But this is an adventure touring motorcycle, it isn’t a fast and nimble panagale v4 so shouldn’t need to shave weight off with a lighter chainto get more power and flick ability. It’s designed to go on long trips both on and off road and a chain is more likely to come off due to rocks and stuff. The chain on this bike is the only thing stopping me from trading in my r1250rs, I love the touring and never worry about the oiling or cleaning of a chain (and I do love cleaning my bike, but on my old bike the chain was the one thing I hated most).

Very good video. I test drove a V4s yesterday and it didn't excite me that much either. The criticisms are all correct. To the one with the scooter, however, I had to think a bit, but have come to understand what is meant😂. Hook for abo👍

Thanks for the insight. You are one of the view reviewers of this bike who did not mentioned the limited fuel range of the stock tank. That is a deal killer for me.

You’re doing a great job keep the videos coming

I agree with your point around gearing, and I haven’t even ridden a V4, just formed my opinion from watching videos and comparing gear ratios with the L2. I do have an order in on a V4S PP, but i will definitely be taking a V4 for a decent test ride proceeding

Honda Crosstourer, V4 power house of an engine, no heat, no vibes just lots of bottom end torque and shaft drive too 😊

Hi, I want to know Your opinion about KTM 1290 superadventure s 2021, the new model.

If Ducati ever goes to the drive shafts i would never buy one

I don’t understand the idea of shaft drives requiring less maintenance. Do you see the bmw recalls, ongoing spline issues/maintenance requirements, and the cost to replace? You don’t see shaft drives running Dakar or motogp. I like your videos and just had this comment after watching this one. I have a multistrada 1260 enduro and it is exclusive, exhilarating, and performance oriented. Similar to my Ktm 1190r but with some Italian flare

1) switches on Ducati feel better than any BMW every made. BMW switch housing is so flimsy it feels like it’s not secured to the handle bar. 2) I will grab the multi and do laps around the gs (on asphalt). Handling is one area with clear advantage over gs.. 3) not having a driveshaft is an ignorant decision by Ducati and a deal breaker for me as well. Specially since shady technology has improved and now not as heavy as before (new tiger is a good example). 3) multi’s fuel mileage and unnecessary high rpm is not good for a bike in this category.

I love a great sounding bike. Even loud. But I bought this to do a lot including moto camping. In that I don't want to be that guy at camp. The bike is more than enough. I track it. I run from cops with it, I blast through dirt roads on it, moto camp, long distance tour... its amazing. You don't need an upgraded can its fine as is. If this is your only bike and you don't give two shits about that then go for it. I have a friend w/ it and it does sound dope.

I bought a GS last year and Im glad I watched this ; ) Full disclosure - I still like the Multistrada

Bought one and ur right on couple points and not on a couple and u missed a big one. Sketchy at low speeds in gearing u nailed it. Wrong on shaft (I came from k1600 hated that little clunk). Wrong on handling for sure as it’s awesome. Missed fuel consumption as it’s terrible. But man is it fun!

I'm just about to buy a 2021 ducati v4s, My only concern is the heat on the left side issue, I'd love to hear from the owners that do all modes of touring and do long distance in over 90 deg F.

As a r1200gs owner, Drive shaft is not maintenance free... Need to lube the shaft splines or pay for someone to do it or risk splines seizing... It's a real pain in the behind to maintain the shaft splines in general...

Ok then I'm getting the V2S 😹

Having had three GSAs, I REALLY wanted a change to a Multistrada V4....then I read about the fuel economy! Sorry Ducati, getting down to mid 30s with spirited riding is not good enough. My 1250 GSA Rallye arrives in March from Berlin

I have owned a 1200s since purchased new in 2017. Yes the chain is a always needing adjusting. But just one question for you. Why do the BSB. The WSB. And the Motogp bikes not have shaft drive. Because it is not stable in a performance bike. Steve.

There is another reason why Ducati persist in the chain drive and it is raw sportiness and engine break on downshifting.I cannot imagine how stress would put on a shaft drive to downshift two or three gears before turning.That a gs is more comfy and you need to baby it like a manual car during gear changing.If these reasons are not so logical to you then think why ss models run on chain drives.Multistrada is not a ss model but is the most sportiest big adventure bike today.

I went to a 5000km trip with my friend. He rides 1250GSA and was crying half of the way because of temperature on his leg (i don't remember which one but i think it was right) so all motocycles have something that can be annoying :) Btw. I like 1250GSA, did many km with this bike and it's really comfortable and well designed bike. It just lacks that "supercar feeling", that punch and that sporty vibes compared to multistrada (which isn't perfect at all and it's even more expensive).

I agree 100% the Multistrada should have shaft-drive. Even if I liked all the other features of this bike, not having shaft-drive would be a deal breaker. I laughed but agree with what you said about the Harley Pan American being, " the ugliest human creation on earth". Excellent video as usual, thanks for posting & stay safe!

Im not done watching but I wanted to chine in on the tank compartment. I'm guessing here but the tolerances and the anti vibration rubber mounts for the tank and "tank liner" that holds the compartment are too loose. Think of a cabinet door or a window. If a cabinet gets racked because it was installed on a not straight wall the door wont work right. Same as a window. If a window isnt properly installed it wont function right. Im guessing if the compartment door was open when they installed the tank skin, or what ever its called, they would be able to tell of its perfectly straight if the door works right. It the door doesn't work right you would need to loosen the scrwews and slightly change the position. Once the tanks outer shell is accurately aligned the door should, in theory, work fine. I rode a 2010 yesterday. It handled beautifully and I haven't owned my own bike in years. Yes, im shopping. No i dodnt buy it but the esrlier models are supposed to handle better on the road than the new ones. 17" vs 19" front tire. Ofcourse the 19" will handle better off road so on an adventure bike "better" is subjective. What are you comparing it to? It sounds like you want an adventure bike to handle like a super bike. If you have no desire to go off road or do any "real" adventuring you are on the wrong kind of bike. This video sounds like you simply dont like ducati. The only reason I didnt buy that bike yesterday is because i didn't trust the dealer was goving me a fair deal. $7800 for a 12 year old ducati with 20k miles on it didnt seem right. The previous owner actually put on amazon after market auxillery lights on it. WTF? If i baught that bike I would have to pay another $1500 in 10k miles to get its main service done. They should have sold that bike to me for 6k. They can keep it. Its sad because I've never been on a bike I liked more. For the record I didnt ride ride the KTM or the Tiger. The BMW is more expensive than the Ducati and costs almost as much for the maintenance.

Just ab out to get some new wheels for the season. Should I test ride Multistrada, GS or Tiger, since I mostly ride on tarmac? I was originally after K1600 but it sems a little heavy to me.

Another fair and honest assessment.Thanks.

I have over 17,000 km on my Multi V4S At $175/hour for a certified Ducati tech, I’m happy to not have the maintenance bill that goes with having a Desmo, no matter how cool the engine note sounds. 60,000 km until the first major service? Yeah, I’ll take that. When your driveshaft fails - and it will fail - I hope you have a lot of cash on hand and don’t mind waiting for a tow truck. Oh, and at least a week for the dealer to get the part in for you. A shaft drive also adds considerably more cost to an already expensive bike. Routine chain maintenance takes less time than cleaning the bike after a ride. The buttons don’t look nice? Good grief, you’re searching for something to complain about. Ditto for the hatch cover; who are these people that can’t master closing this thing? There are two legit complaints about the Multi: it’s a thirsty bike, especially in Sport mode, and the infotainment app needs improvement (to be fair, the latter has gotten better since I took delivery of the bike).

first point: pointing out Ducati for loosing its dna because of the V4 second point: preteding the drive shaft would not be loosing DNA.... WTF?

*Maybe* a chain is lighter? *Maybe* a chain loses less less power? No maybes about it at all. Chains are the most efficient final drive, period. Drive shafts maintenance free?! Ha!!! And of all the drive shaft examples to show...you show BMWs?! *The* most problematic motorcycle drive shafts in the history off. Oh, so you want to make much ado about cleaning the chain? Not a big deal because that's the price you pay for not being 30 lbs heavier, and not losing 10-20 hp. So lets call that even. If you want "luxury", buy a car. "Legends" of unreliabilty start and end with BMW/KTM, not Ducati. The issue with your complaints about shaking /sluggish on roll ons in high gear at lower speeds, are unwarranted because you simply need to be in the right gear. You were not. Try downshifting as in proper riding techniques. Plus it seems to me your complaint about low gearing ratios is more about the adundant power going through them quickly rather than them being too high. And to say the big Duke looks like a big scooter is hilarious because not only is it totally objective, but getting back to the BMWs and throw in Japaeses bikes too in similar categories, and get back to me about which models look like scooters. LOL! But I agree, big CCs = big heat in any bike. I also agree, way too expensive. I also agree the big twin has more character/better exhaust note. As far as paying for extras, try adjusting your base pre-load on a KTM SDGT. You can't. That has to be done by the dealer. At a cost. Overall, this is a nitpicking review that can be done on any bike, but you missed a big issue IMO: MPG is terrible, like 39 mpg . But thanks for the laughs. lol.. I enjoyed your review. :-)

Can i ask what is the best adventure bike for you.

I've got over 30,000 on my V4S. Responses: 1. Exhaust-- I ride my bike for performance, not for sound. 2. chain drive--less complex, easier to fix in the outback; your comparisons are not "multi" bikes that are intended to ride offroad. I use engine oil on a scrib brush every 750 miles to wipe the chain--takes 10 minutes. 3. Feel/switches. Really? No. 3? Never had an issue closing my phone compartment. 4. Handling. I can crush my friends who ride BMW GS and BMW RT. Why would you ride a bike at an RPM that doesn't make sense for the bike other than to make a bogus claim against the bike? You clearly haven't ridden the bike enough to understand and utilize its gearing and power. 6. Scooter--Who doesn't like smooth at high RPM? My only flaw in the bike is that you can't set cruise control faster than 98 mph! 7. Hot on left leg. I rode in Nevada at 115 degrees F, didn't have an issue. 8. Expensive. If you can't afford it, buy a tractor (aka GS). Yes, it costs more to service too, but if cost is an issue, go elsewhere. 9. Accessories. See answer to question 8--if you can't afford it, compromise for price, and get a different bike.

Good and honest Review.Dont get the critism from some people on that.I have GS,but if good,i would like the Multi.1200 was very bad,thats why i started with a GS in comparison.But what i would love? Split GS Market and install a Boxer 4 Zylinder in those street models

Mr. V-Told have you tried the Pikes Peak?

Even if non of the bikes in this category looks good and I don't like Ducks, this bike would have been my pick in this category

Juz gdzies u ciebie to pisałem. Chyba w koment. . do Guzzi . ? Moja Multi V 4 ma 43000 km. Zadnych awarii. Tydzien temu wrócilem z trasy Hiszpania-Maroko-Sahara zachodnia-Mauretania-Senegal Dakar. I z powrotem. 8000 km. Temperatura 35-40c piach , pył , paliwo syfiaste 80 oktan. Żadnych awarii. Apropo temperatury każde nowe moto grzeje od catalizatora jak diabli . Jak chcesz sie podgrzać to spróbuj Nordena to zobaczysz co znaczy ciepło 😎😎 Mam pare motocykli w tym dwa Włoskie i legendy o awaryjności Włoszczyzny już dawno przestały być aktualne. A i warto przejechac sie na Multi gdzieś dalej niż z Urynowa do Ursusa 😎😎 Polecam. . A sorry , że pisze po Polsku ale rozumiem ze nie będziesz zmuszony używać translatora 😊. Pozdrawiam serdecznie i bezpiecznej jazdy życzę.

I love ur shirt bro.Where to buy?

You can seek for as many mistakes you like on a multi, but it is still better bike then GS!

Great review -- love the honesty!

I was interested until i heard the mpg!

If you dont like the sound of the best motorcycle formula ever made... The V4... Youre going to be rather upset with the disgusting noise the GS makes! Shaft drive just sucks the power and creates nasty downshifts at pace.

just get the multistrada v2s. the much better bike. v4 has too much power for road use anyways

After having a GS shaft fail due to being full of rain water at 15,000 miles give me a chain any day.

Best bike ever

who the hell lubes their chain every couple of hundred miles 🤣

Chain drive is much cheaper

You got to be tested V4 without akropovic asap that tube and cat cause the Low rpm stalling and High rpm power outage because changing the torquest rpms by normal. Man stuff for drag and Enduro :P After Drive S1000XR and the Triumph Tiger 1215 Desert Edition both 30k kms in a row I found V4 the most nible one on these three. dont want to See BMW in my Garage because the exap space maintanence every 20k km. I dont have that money to Throw street 2 times in a year. I guess you have to find another bike to test if you couldnt you are keep talking about Ducati 4 ever mate.

99.9% of the bikes come with a chain drive. Continue promoting BMW GS. But I don’t understand your problem with Ducati MTS.

Drive shafts suck I have a trimuph 1200 tiger it would be a much better bike

Is anyone else here just watching a video to see what the downsides are and just just fan boying over their Ducati 😂 relax y’all every motorcycle has pros and cons it’s sad to see some people that can’t acknowledge that

Ducati are just Gucci bikes. Trophy girlfriend

😂😂😂

wish your videos were shorter!