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@cassidywoodliff
@cassidywoodliff 14 күн бұрын
“Had to be me… someone else might have gotten it wrong.”-Vulkan probably
@Baloo106
@Baloo106 14 күн бұрын
I am the very model of a primarch of Imperium
@herrdoctor2895
@herrdoctor2895 14 күн бұрын
Dont make me remember Mordin, its a repress memory
@anonyme253
@anonyme253 14 күн бұрын
you had to remind me of that Salarian scientist...
@alexryl8287
@alexryl8287 14 күн бұрын
@@herrdoctor2895 fr Bro
@alonsogutierrez9500
@alonsogutierrez9500 12 күн бұрын
@@Baloo106 I am a master battler and living crematorium
@gr8m887
@gr8m887 14 күн бұрын
"We cannot let the humans pay for our mistakes. It's been an honor serving with you all." - Vulkan of Nocturne
@LegoM12
@LegoM12 14 күн бұрын
You know vulkan is a G when he’s reciting Optimus Prime 30k years later 🗿
@Knight_Trooper
@Knight_Trooper 14 күн бұрын
I see what you did there
@Novictus
@Novictus 10 күн бұрын
Oh Vulkan you imply that you are not human when you are one of the most human in all of the Imperium
@Randomperson-ne3kp
@Randomperson-ne3kp 14 күн бұрын
Other primarchs: Oh no the battle is lost, time to activate the talisman Vulkan: Oh no the battle is lost, but there is still hope that we can turn things around
@starhammer5247
@starhammer5247 12 күн бұрын
The only time he'll push it is when there's genuinely no choice.
@ishubetterthanyou1582
@ishubetterthanyou1582 7 күн бұрын
Other Primarchs?! Say it like you actually want to 😤 Only Magnus would panic too soon and press it( I'm a magnustard btw)
@justinweber4977
@justinweber4977 14 күн бұрын
I remember someone summarizing why Vulkan would have ro be one of the last Primarchs to return as "He would inevitably gigachad the Imperium to victory while singlehandedly turning the setting NobleBright" So thats why he cant be front and center at the heresy.
@ohamatchhams
@ohamatchhams 14 күн бұрын
That's what also going into my thoughts regarding the roles of Vulkan, he's the most instrumental character behind producing and constructing the most important mechanism surrounding Terra akin to Talisman of 7 Hammers, 9 of his artefacts and other marvelous techs that can elevates Imperial humans (at least during Great Crusade and early Horus Heresy) to get as close as they could to Dark Age techs (minus the AI tech tree & Emperor's biomancy) This is also supported with the fact that he's somewhat supplanted the role of Angron as the therapists for other Primarchs, perhaps not as potent psychically (as Angron were prior to those retarded bastards shoving Butcher's nails on him) but still increasingly supportive that can make others surrounding him to mentally recover better
@Lil-ig7br
@Lil-ig7br 14 күн бұрын
If you play space marines then the setting is already noble bright- Salty Guardsmen
@nathengriffiths-holland7038
@nathengriffiths-holland7038 10 күн бұрын
Guilliman can make them efficient, the lion can kill the enemies but Vulcan could probably start rebuilding the entire thing. Vulcan has the ability to make nearly anything and is really innovative so he could help sort out their technology problems and make blueprints for the mass production of it so by just coming back he can basically re teach humanity how to make stuff again and that pretty much stops the decay of the empireum
@Novictus
@Novictus 10 күн бұрын
​@@Lil-ig7bris that why the galaxy is split in half and a gigantic portion of the imperial forces were all murder cursed during the Arks of Omen?
@Lil-ig7br
@Lil-ig7br 10 күн бұрын
@@Novictus I don't see them blowing up YOUR planets or killing YOUR beloved characters
@drimwalkr8923
@drimwalkr8923 5 күн бұрын
Vulcan, forge primarch, but actually The Emperor's humanity. It was only ever going to be Vulcan.
@imeshjasondon8987
@imeshjasondon8987 14 күн бұрын
Vulkan was the only one who would hesitate and the most human of all his brothers, that is why the emperor made him make the talisman
@MinoTaurus205
@MinoTaurus205 14 күн бұрын
And he's the true Emperor favorite His humanity is what make the Emperor like him That's what they're should be The servant of Emperor who brings hope for humanity and a son that stand on his side
@HungMantis
@HungMantis 14 күн бұрын
@@MinoTaurus205and cause he’s gonna have to deal with vulkan the longest he might as well have made him the most well adjusted
@-TheMachineGod-
@-TheMachineGod- 12 күн бұрын
I dunno, Lorgar is often described as very human, he was the only primarch who didn’t want to be a soldier, and he only really did anything bad after the Emperor’s actions at Monarchia convinced him that the Imperium was unworthy. If Lorgar was loyalist, I think he could have been trusted to make the decision
@imeshjasondon8987
@imeshjasondon8987 12 күн бұрын
@@-TheMachineGod- well he's a demon primarch, and one of the most useless of the lot. I don't know about him being human that much, it could have been an act. He drank the chaos cool aid pretty fast
@thecommentguy9380
@thecommentguy9380 12 күн бұрын
​@@-TheMachineGod-he represented our naivity. His blind faith made way for poison from Kor'Phaeron and Erebus mouths into his soul. He was also caring like Vulkan as it was his purpose to bring light to where there is none, just like when he stepped in to save his sons from Corvus' wrath... even if it meant he became the next victim This is why after punishing Lorgar the Emperor and Malcador kinda had second thoughts about how they punished him
@white0thunderwhite0thunder71
@white0thunderwhite0thunder71 5 күн бұрын
Why was Vulkan given the first Exterminatus button? Because he alone would've hesitated to use it...
@Tommybotham
@Tommybotham 3 күн бұрын
He is the reason why Magnus finally turned traitor.
@alonsogutierrez9500
@alonsogutierrez9500 14 күн бұрын
Given that Malcodor is the one saying this, there has to be layers. I’m thinking king that if Dorn pushed the button, it would be billions sentenced to death for security. If it was Vulcan, it would be billions spared to a quick death. Imagine the ripples that would make in the warp. Imagine what that could birth…
@tombirmingham7033
@tombirmingham7033 13 күн бұрын
I couldnt pray for a nicer fate
@tombirmingham7033
@tombirmingham7033 13 күн бұрын
Or greater mercy
@VengeanceRMP
@VengeanceRMP 13 күн бұрын
God damn that’s insightful
@andrewgause6971
@andrewgause6971 12 күн бұрын
That is a valid point. Better to birth an entity born of empathy and mercy than one of cold calculation. The Warp has enough uncaring denizens as it is...
@thecommentguy9380
@thecommentguy9380 12 күн бұрын
Dorn wouldn't care less about what he was going to do. Just like when he sacrificed a shit load of imperial soldiers to bait the traitors in the tunnels below the palace, only to have them all buried alive
@WAcrobat19
@WAcrobat19 14 күн бұрын
God that is genuinely sad. Being forced to feed 1,000 or so innocent people, but if it failed, destroy the whole planet as a fail safe. Fuck.
@MastemaJack
@MastemaJack 13 күн бұрын
It's 1000 a day
@Tyberos253
@Tyberos253 10 күн бұрын
A thousand psykers a day keeps the chaos away.
@nikik5567
@nikik5567 6 күн бұрын
Well he didn’t automatically have to do it, only if malcador wasn’t able to do it alone. He was the one who would judge if it was necessary to throw the switch. He cared for malcador but he’s the only one who cared about the 1,000 humans enough to actually weigh if they needed to be sacrificed or if malcador could hold on a little longer.
@emzetkin1100
@emzetkin1100 14 күн бұрын
Ferrus Manus' character arc was his head hitting the soil of Isstvan V.
@dolphinerofachero3159
@dolphinerofachero3159 10 күн бұрын
Tbh his chapter is more interesting with him dead
@alphamav3rickgaming430
@alphamav3rickgaming430 12 күн бұрын
During the scene where all is basically lost with the traitors banging on the silver door and the throne going out of control Vulkan gathered with his remaining salamander son, a custodian, a chosen of malchador, an officer, a priest of mars and a sister of silence. Figures representing all aspects of the imperium in the room that was all the imperium had left. That moment was so powerful to me as he looked at every single one and they all shared a final moment together. I even shed a tear when it came to his son and Vulkan embraced him in what he believed to be there final moments. He is the most human of the primarchs and the best of 40K
@dragnusu4411
@dragnusu4411 14 күн бұрын
This is also why the Emperor made Vulkan smart enough to recreate weapons from the Dark Age of Technology: he could understand how devastating they could be and only use them if he had no other choice!!!
@-TheMachineGod-
@-TheMachineGod- 12 күн бұрын
I don’t think the Emperor had a say in how smart the Primarchs were, otherwise he would have just created 20 Gulliman/Magnus/Vulcan mixes
@dragnusu4411
@dragnusu4411 12 күн бұрын
@@-TheMachineGod- Apparently in the novel "Old Earth", the Emperor says he engineered Vulcan that way. Also, the Emperor wanted the Primarchs to have different traits as an experiment (which is why Leman Russ was literally part wolf). In addition, each Primarch is said to have a unique soul, which can't be replicated.
@justascarecrow6988
@justascarecrow6988 11 күн бұрын
@@dragnusu4411 Meanwhile, Fulgrim 2...
@dragnusu4411
@dragnusu4411 11 күн бұрын
@@justascarecrow6988 There is a theory that the clone has the real Fulgrim's soul
@user-kj5yc4xc3y
@user-kj5yc4xc3y 11 күн бұрын
​@justascarecrow6988 primarchs have a soul that gives off an aura when they become demon princes their sole is replaced with warp energy, which is essentially soul energy energy so it acts the same but is more powerful Fulgrims original soul went to his clone because it recognized it as its proper body since its a perfect clone
@akumaking1
@akumaking1 14 күн бұрын
VULKAN LIVES!
@SaintNamedSlickback
@SaintNamedSlickback 14 күн бұрын
*STOMP* *STOMP*
@herolumierelumanite1608
@herolumierelumanite1608 13 күн бұрын
*STOMP STOMP*
@Victor-bl2ge
@Victor-bl2ge 12 күн бұрын
🐸
@SlayerGodOfDeath
@SlayerGodOfDeath 9 күн бұрын
STOMP STOMP
@andrewbradnum9099
@andrewbradnum9099 9 күн бұрын
STOMP STOMP
@mistercmartin
@mistercmartin 14 күн бұрын
Vulkan really is best boy!
@darksider2903
@darksider2903 14 күн бұрын
They had to keep Vulkan at back because that dude can create weapons that can erase anything from existence. It's annoying when characters don't use their capabilities at full extent. I'm sure Vulkan could create machines that can weaken warp beings.
@MinoTaurus205
@MinoTaurus205 14 күн бұрын
If Vulkan back he would be so angry at the current Imperium because everything is so fcked up
@starhammer5247
@starhammer5247 12 күн бұрын
Vulkan would also understand the rampant destruction that could be caused by these weapons. The loss of life.
@-TheMachineGod-
@-TheMachineGod- 12 күн бұрын
⁠at that point in the siege the Imperial artillery was out of ammunition and there was almost no contact between the throne and the front line, I don’t think Vulcan was going to find the resources to build any machines
@hrushikeshsawant6193
@hrushikeshsawant6193 14 күн бұрын
VULKAN LIVES!!!!
@504godzilla
@504godzilla 12 күн бұрын
Thats why vulkan is my favorite primarch. He sees things more than just face value and cherishes human life as with other primarchs its all just collateral. He carries empathy and feels loss the heaviest. I feel he is one of the most mature and well put together of his brothers and also one of the scariest when he gets pissed off.
@beneagleson3026
@beneagleson3026 14 күн бұрын
I’m surprised John grammaticus didn’t somehow have a massive role in this
@SleightWryder
@SleightWryder 14 күн бұрын
JOHN GRAMMATICUS. This very channel's most esteemed character of characters. Liveattheblacklibrary *LOVES* talking about him. Best character in fiction. 4EVAR.
@probablygeorge6489
@probablygeorge6489 14 күн бұрын
Vulkan really is the peak of the Emperor's Creations, loves humanity, hates xenos, and is functionally immortal. He's a more human version of the Emperor
@starhammer5247
@starhammer5247 12 күн бұрын
He doesn't actually hate Xenos. While yes, he did kill that Eldar Child, what a lot of people conveniently leave out is just how badly it fucked up Vulkan mentally. That child's death is ultimately what led to Vulkan sacrificing himself in the War of the Beast, because he wanted to protect that child's planet.
@starhammer5247
@starhammer5247 12 күн бұрын
He doesn't actually hate Xenos. While yes, he did kill that Eldar Child, what a lot of people conveniently leave out is just how badly it fucked up Vulkan mentally. That child's death is ultimately what led to Vulkan sacrificing himself in the War of the Beast, because he wanted to protect that child's planet.
@Novictus
@Novictus 10 күн бұрын
​@@starhammer5247that's because the war of the beast is a silly nonsense story
@starhammer5247
@starhammer5247 10 күн бұрын
@@Novictus While that is true, the motivation makes sense. That child's death REALLY fucked him up, and I mean it SERIOUSLY fucked with his head. This event was during the Horus Heresy and it carried over into the War of the Beast.
@shadysack9884
@shadysack9884 14 күн бұрын
We love Vulkan
@Thundergolemm
@Thundergolemm 14 күн бұрын
Makes me wonder if the other ones capable would be Lorgar or Angron but they went insane.(both displayed deep empathy at one point or another even if brief.)
@-TheMachineGod-
@-TheMachineGod- 12 күн бұрын
Lorgar is a very underrated Primarch, he is so interesting because he is a demigod who doesn’t want to be a soldier, but I barely ever see anyone talk about him in any way other than him getting psychically stomped on by the Emperor
@Novictus
@Novictus 10 күн бұрын
​@@-TheMachineGod-Imo it's because he is basically a child. He has godly charisma and a need to understand a grander purpose but he is so easily swayed. He desperately needed an anchor and so he just let Kor Pharon and Erebus wrap him up in wrap nonsense left and right. He is a human supercomputer with empathy but he is so desperate for their approval and so saddened by his shaming that he sends his sons who he claims to love to be slowly murdered by demons who then fuse to their souls. He also skins a scribe for a spelling error. He gets so wrapped up in Dad scolding him (for something he was warned not to do mind you) that he turned against everything he had lived for before and pitched a galactic fit for it. He has alot of influence and he has alot of power but he is just so comically evil now that it's hard to really understand him.
@andrewr.7053
@andrewr.7053 14 күн бұрын
I dont blame vulkan for staying in a dark corner for 10k years
@haylongwang3002
@haylongwang3002 14 күн бұрын
He also stopped and beat Magnus from invading, you know....one of the most powerful psykers in the setting?
@starhammer5247
@starhammer5247 12 күн бұрын
Not because he was stronger, but because he just would not stop coming. Magnus had no chance, because you can't stop the unkillable.
@miceltusav88
@miceltusav88 7 күн бұрын
"Vulkan was the only one human enough" *happy salamander noises*
@guilherme5094
@guilherme5094 13 күн бұрын
The difference is simple, some Primarchs are good, they are really good boys, but Vulcan, Vulcan really cares.
@504godzilla
@504godzilla 6 күн бұрын
Idk man, Kurze is pretty fucking far from good. So was Lion and Russ
@ethanmitchell7479
@ethanmitchell7479 13 күн бұрын
Vulkans humanity is his greatest strength and weakness Big E even told Ferrus that he had something no other brother had and it’s that love for humanity Because of that love he knows the price and weight of every death and loss Others view these losses as necessary or are simply completely indifferent to them But Vulkan understands that that is a PERSON Someone who was born Had a mom And a dad Loved to read Loved being a mechanic Maybe had a crush on someone in the next regiment And you just told him to suicide charge a berserker chaos line for him to die screaming in 5 seconds
@warhammer8867
@warhammer8867 4 күн бұрын
Bro, your statement was nice to hear, I wish our politicians had empathy for their people and the enemy, knowing they are human from a different place
@chrisperez4272
@chrisperez4272 14 күн бұрын
When you consider the kind of man Angron was supposed to be it kinda makes you wonder if this was a role that was meant for 2. One to build the means the other to execute the use.
@localinquisitor3106
@localinquisitor3106 6 күн бұрын
Bruh I love Vulkan like an edgy teenager loves your typical dark-sasuke character
@kaleb2643
@kaleb2643 13 күн бұрын
Vulkan best boy
@KaneBoyd
@KaneBoyd 14 күн бұрын
Hey, love your vids. Btw are there any suspected or canon death guard successor chapters.
@trailblazerlazerrazerd9027
@trailblazerlazerrazerd9027 14 күн бұрын
Vulkan was HIM. It's like Mordin's line from Mass Effect; “It had to be me. Somebody else might've gotten it wrong”. Vulkan cared so much about humanity as a whole that he reluctantly would've pushed the doomsday button to scuttle the birthplace of humanity in a near instant. And honestly something like that is probably one of the most human things about us. We will sacrifice so much in order to save people that we care about or even some that we don't even know because of who we are at our core. But equally we're also the types to kill ourselves and many other people in order to deny our enemies their victory. And you seen it throughout history in many different places and different times. Where even large empires like Romans or the Ottomans win certain victories or lost them thanks to soldiers numbering much lower than their enemies and being underestimated. Which in Vulkan's case would make you think he might be the best person to do something like negotiate with xenos if the Imperium needed to. But after he burned that Eldar child and it became one of his most famous/infamous deeds in the setting that opinion falls short unless he musters energy he doesn't have to play diplomat. At the end of the day Primarchs were the warrior generals of the Emperor, even before being his sons. And this moment where he protects Malcador while taking up the last ditch defense of the Imperial Palace on Terra proves it with what few reserves and reinforcements that they could assemble against the Ruinous Powers as the Emperor and Sanguinis headed to Horus' flagship to confront him.
@Oreo_cakester
@Oreo_cakester 10 күн бұрын
The Giant Chocolate Bar was always the best 😔💖
@nikik5567
@nikik5567 6 күн бұрын
So, in short, it had to be Vulkan cuz he’s the only one that WOULD hesitate.
@gnomeawayfromhome7550
@gnomeawayfromhome7550 14 күн бұрын
My dad 🥺💜
@Hellheart
@Hellheart 12 күн бұрын
I still say that they should have kept the plot thread that The Lion held back to see who would win, and Luther wasn't corrupted initially.
@Santisima_Trinidad
@Santisima_Trinidad 11 күн бұрын
Getting about a unit of sledges dead when outcosted 3:1 is pretty good. Not scorpion level to be sure, but still very nice for a unit which you'd normally be happy to have kill half a unit if it's tanking properly for the rest of your army.
@MoriaGecko1
@MoriaGecko1 11 күн бұрын
vulkan. fucking gigachad
@josephjenott931
@josephjenott931 14 күн бұрын
He wanted to do it the least, and that is why it was his job and his alone.
@jayday1480
@jayday1480 8 күн бұрын
Fucking love your channel
@akmalhafiz8763
@akmalhafiz8763 14 күн бұрын
If Vulkan returns and fought the Tyranids, he would probably pet them first and then smush them with his hammer.
@isawaryokage
@isawaryokage 11 күн бұрын
And Vulkan could've spent like 6 extra hours to help Meduson deal with Marr, and the Iron Hand would've helped in the siege. But no he had to sprint to Terra super fast so he could spend months doing nothing...
@austr1an_reaper
@austr1an_reaper 11 күн бұрын
Ah yes, Vulkan, the greatest failure of all the known primarchs
@warhammer8867
@warhammer8867 4 күн бұрын
Nah, it's either Logar or Angron, they are the real black sheep of the family table, pun intended.
@diegosigua2106
@diegosigua2106 6 күн бұрын
Vulkan lived true as a man. In the deathworld of Nocturne, the teachings of his adopted Father N'bel, the love and camaraderie of his community in the city of Hesoid, He was taught real humanity and the strong Will of the human race to live in all advesary that life can give us and there is always hope. He is the Humaniy made manifest is all primarchs and the humane aspect of the Emperor. Though he is not above anger (burning of an eldar child in blind rage cause of Konrad) He just a big huggy boi
@ravenwhiteduck3158
@ravenwhiteduck3158 10 күн бұрын
You gotta cover jagatai
@AverageAwesomeDude
@AverageAwesomeDude 5 күн бұрын
Wait was that scene in end and death about Vulkan initiating the psyker sacrifices? I understood that he was there also as a fail safe to sit on the throne should Malcador fail, the throne would kill anyone sitting on it too long, but Vulkans perpetual mojo was strong enough, we see him kind of instantly revive which isn’t something we saw any other perpetual really do, that he could sit on the throne and while it would kill him quickly since he isn’t really a psyker, he would still be able to maintain its core functions and could essentially just die and revive every millisecond while he sat on the throne. I understood that he was there as a last resort to keep the throne active even tho it would make him essentially live in a state of constant death and rebirth
@shady83
@shady83 14 күн бұрын
Sounds more like being deliberately cruel to vulcan
@tombirmingham7033
@tombirmingham7033 13 күн бұрын
God speaks to us through good art. I regard warhammer 40k as good art
@Technoanima
@Technoanima 14 күн бұрын
Hold up. I thought Mr. Caring was Angron? Hecking bamboozled.😊
@Victorblud
@Victorblud 8 күн бұрын
Vulkan is the best Primarch.
@janihuhtanen8289
@janihuhtanen8289 12 күн бұрын
Magnus did nothing wrong. All my homies hate the Space Wolves.
@jrr7031
@jrr7031 6 күн бұрын
Ebon skinned wit a big ol bald head. I wonder if bald being a sense of power was a thing back when the story was developed? Or if the Emporer had a male pattern baldness gene but only passed it on since he was a perpetual and it would just never activate.
@damienruzco
@damienruzco 14 күн бұрын
Was supposed to be Angron :(
@teejay1646
@teejay1646 14 күн бұрын
Yep Angrons fall was the catalyst for the entire heresy. His power was the most important and the place he held between his brothers was extremely key
@MinoTaurus205
@MinoTaurus205 14 күн бұрын
Too bad knife ear messed up... ...again...
@user-nu7vq6ei5q
@user-nu7vq6ei5q 14 күн бұрын
19th to comment.
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