e2k I know, right? So many car vids are doing manuals vs auto... Absolute waste of time for a serious comparison. Probably a deliberate tactic to prevent any real criticisms...

@@TheRealTanSeeker Because that's how they come as standard. It's not like the conclusion would be any different. The Golf would be slightly faster in a drag race, but slightly less fun and involving to drive, so he'd still choose the Audi.

the s3 doesn’t come in manuel, he said it in the video

@@TheRealTanSeeker No. It's actually pretty obvious, if you've watched the video. The main advantage of the Golf is its more engaging drive, which is provided by its manual gearbox. The main advantage of the S3 is its smoother, more comfortable everyday experience. Therefore, it makes sense to compare the two cars at their best, since this is how he recommends that they should be bought. The automatic Golf R is not good value, since it compromises the main strength of the vehicle without providing the luxury of the Audi.

@@Racingmonkeyg25x But the Golf R does come in automatic which is why e2k stated "...get both in AUTO"

M140i is better engine

​@@Thuds593 But without the lSd, m140i sucks actually

The manual is way more fun.

@@Ripinda1911 Agreed, i hate autos on small cars

@@temppa-seta3821 : the DSG is basically a manual without a clutch pedal

@@troyf374 it isnt... manual is way more engaging, speak from experience

@@kausarde4974 The dsg is faster tho

More fair, but more boring.

They both blue 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

😂😂

Peanus Benis - this comment is far too sensible for KZfaq, please stop it.

Peanus Benis actually it’s not better specced standard. You have to pay for driving modes and progressive steering.... (standard on S3)

Max Pay for driving modes?

😂😂

Vw< expensive vw (Audi) < more expensive vw (Porsche) < more expensive vw (Bentley) < even more expensive vw (Lamborghini) < more expensive vw (Bugatti)

ZotteZino bro you went stupid far for what?

Marko G no I don't

VWCeption

Rob Kliskey same here!!!!!!

The drag race part is taken from another video, but the rest of the video is new.

*eurobeat intensifies*

I was like: deja vu I've been in this place before

I literally just posted the same statement, pretty much with those same exact words.

what do you do for a living?

Amateur that you are and the amount of bullshit you spout is incredible. I am a VAG importer in France, so I invite you to try both before speaking behind a screen without even having come close or remotely close to one of the two. The golf course is 100 times more comfortable, more livable and much prettier internally, they don't purify everything.

ashlie higgins your right

1800 for the auto in the golf. 1800 for leather. I agree test both with auto.

The manual is more fun to drive, and it’s superior to any auto (making the Audi feel like the less-fun-to-drive car).

Manual for drivers who can drive. Will last longer than DSG which might eat itself.

Why would u ever buy a manual in a car like a golf r

No thx every one got it its' like my mom have it to

MahirTheCarGuy agreed!

Review:- nice engine, great to drive but there is no uglier car

an improvement over the 135i but still a terrible-looking car. There is no saving that basic shape that they started with and incremental changes to s fundamentally ugly shape are doomed.

Agreed. Though I think he'll say amazing engine but bad practicality, and it's sporty looks are even more subtle than the R. Personally I think the 1 series needs a refresh anyways, design and interior feels dated. However I have an R but would've definitely got a 140i shadow edition with Xdrive, but for some reason BMW don't sell the Xdrive version in the UK :(

afaik after the 140i all 1-series will be front-wheel drive only.

i read your name as "A true Parrot-head"

Stop liking your own comment 🤦🏻‍♂

A true petrol-head your nasty

A true petrol-head lmao just because you're bi doesn't mean everyone else is

A true petrol-head my father kissed me on the lips, i'm bi

hama king So you are choosing the Volkswagen .. if you know what I mean ^^

bodega147 what u mean

VW owns Audi...

bodega147 hahahaha

Haha Bodega King!

Gary Taylor, the GTI looks better overall, unmistakable for a normal Golf unlike the R.

Leather is simply the superior material. Wears better, lasts longer, smells better and is way easier to clean. It also looks more expensive and [subjectively] nicer. But if a manufacturer gives you leather as standard, they should give you the option for cloth seats for no extra cost.

Personally I'm not a fan of the black bits they added to the MK7.5. And black wheels are very "meh", regular 19" Pretorias look far more elegant. Also the R looks really nice inside at night, with the blue LED accents everywhere.

It also makes your nutsack cold in winter and glues the said nutsack during the summer. And don't start with the "ventilators and heat warmers" because that's an extra $$$, and a hefty extra $$$. Leather's mostly for pretensious ppl who haven't heard of anything else. Nice try, Georgi

Mark Stefanac I haven't said anything bad. Leather is objectively a better and more durable material than cloth. It also costs more. Heated seats come as standard on $20 000 vehicles these days. Leather interior may cost $5000, heated seats don't.

Glad I'm not the only one who thinks that. 3 door is nice but the 5 door looks like it can't decide if it wants to be an estate or a hatchback.It's not a good look.

They always review golf r in manual and drag race with auto Audi rs3 or s3.

I think these cars are the same pair on each review recorded at the same time. I guess the point is that neither would lose. They’re identical mechanically.

Still, in every review of the Golf R, it has the manual gearbox, loses the dragrace and it is "if you want better performance and more comfort while cruising, get this other car with the automatic gearbox". What I'd really like to see is Golf R auto vs Audi S3 auto and if the cars have different performance due to one of them weighing more, having different suspension or a different tune (according to VW themselves, the DSG version is 0.5s faster 0-100 km/h than the manual version). And who knows, maybe the verdict then could have been "both are nice for cruising with their auto gearboxes, the S3 has a bit nicer interior, but with similar options the Audi costs much more and it's not really worth it". But it seems we will never know because apparently the only Golf R which is ever available for reviews is this one with the manual gearbox...

freibier i have an s3 and i have raced 3 different golf rs’ on the road and we were stuck next to each other from 0 till 170kmph every single time.

Porsche Z must’ve been dsg Golfs then

BlackWind I like Audis a lot, but you're right.

I don't know why, but those roof black bars, makes it look like an estate...

WTF?

Golf👍👌

100%

HG504 golf R sweeter chassis, better seats, better looks

It's literally the same car lol

both are on the MQB platform and use the 2.0 tfsi

Uh, wtf... They are literally the same car. And as Mat points out, the Golf is sharper to drive. Option it with the DSG and it's no slower either. So on what possible grounds is the S3 "on another level", apart from being more expensive?

Audi is better, deal with it vw boys hehe

DroneBoy yep

WV fangirlss

I drive a BMW M135i. I have driven both of these cars and the golf is better. The Audi understeer on a B road is awful. And the golf is cheaper!

TeacherToolkitDemo its still a lot of money for most people like me :)

Aaa Zzz Why not 🤷‍♂️🤗

Which is basically a Renault so is French rubbish

Aaa Zzz can you afford a Dacia?

Good news!

Aaa Zzz Definitely better a Dacia than an overpriced Bmw.

Anonymous Bullet what’s the fuel economy like?

27mpg when driving on efficiency mode and not using boost. Around 10mpg on dynamic/sports mode when using boost most of the time

Anonymous Bullet guess that would be a financial mistake for me when I do 60miles daily 😩

@@thepolishbrat112 depends really. If those 60 miles are on the motorway everyday. You'll probably get higher mpg, the s3 can hit 35mpg but that's only on a motorway

Anonymous Bullet mostly ‘A’ roads but with my way of driving I don’t think I would hit that 35mpg 😅

i got the a3 s line but with a vr6 for both the look and performance lol

AKA Zeus same the a3 sline it’s really good I got it for my 16th birthday

Yes, because as we know, drag times are the ULTIMATE indicator of daily experiences; three quarters of the world literally LIVES on the drag strip amirite?

@@kausarde4974 lol, I don't think he got the sarcasm. ANd yes, I would take manual over auto any day

LoveGod16 which is why u have seat warmers

LoveGod16 and ventilators

LoveGod16 However, theyre far easier to clean, last longer and look better. Plus, here in the UK, it doesn't really get hot...

I love the alcantara.

Easier to clean with kids in the back I suppose

B.M - Except the GTI drives the wrong pair of wheels in your pursuit of a playful car.

B.M if you want a playful car why are you after a GTI... the BMW m135/140 is surely the way to go

squala not in a hot hatch.

TomaCukor it is annoying, all touchscreen’s are. My daily hack Octavia vrs is awful trying to change songs guessing where I press my finger or I take my eyes off the road for a lot longer than I’d like to

I hear this argument a lot, and I hear the same argument regarding checking the speedo. My argument is that the amount of time required to divert your eyes to assess what button you need to press and where it is, is inconsequential to your driving safety. You are required and encouraged to spend the exact same amount of time doing regular head checks whilst your driving. The only part that needs to move is your eyes, you don't need to shift your whole head or anything more to glance around the cabin of your car and identify what it is you plan to use. If you can't look at a touchscreen, check your speed, or fiddle around with the centre stack in a safe manner, then you probably shouldn't be driving anyway.

Please lamborghini

but the in dash display shows media information and you have controls on the steering wheel?

Garthorium, the problem you're missing with that point, which I agree with, is that with physical buttons compared to a touchscreen, you don't even need to look away from the road, you can feel what button you are pressing. A touchscreen has no physical feedback compared to a physical button, so looking away even for a second is less safe than not having to look away at all.

George Eisikovits I agree, plus if you take it to a track day (like some people do) it's quicker than the Golf R as proven by two car magazines. .

ACS607 yes, it weighs a lot less as it's only half haldex and that VAQ differential works amazingly well, so quick round the corners. Only issue with the manuals is that they come equipped with the same clutch you find on a 150hp TDI engine. Applies to the Golf R, S3 manual and Octavia VRS. Seriously unmanageable kit.

Or the Skoda equivalent.

If you want traction in gears 1+2 get the R or S3

It’s is basically a golf so you got a point 😂😂😂

So whats the problem? They are not near as annoying as Tesla fanboys which is the most annoying fanboy group in car history imo

same goes for audi 'fanbois'

The problem is fanbois fullstop.

Which is why its so stupid. There are many VW fanbois but they tend to like jerking off to pictures of a Golf ;-)

I don't like either of them actually so you can take your jumping to conclusions and shove it up your ass along with all the cancerous fanbois.

Oliver Simpson It would be identical if it was DSG would it not?

gynads I think he means VW dsg would be better than VW manual

Tanu N Prabhu what's the difference? Audi = poshed up VW with extra chrome

Interior

Dan A 😂

RS3❤

Exorcismer easier to clean and maintain

ناصر الدين الجزائري ًَ the audi would win anyway

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@@user-oz8xg6ow5f surtou v vid ta3 golf w s3 hhhhhhhhhhhh

Felix O. Except the auto is quicker and more efficient any day of the week.

I live in the countryside with lots of twisty roads, I almost never encounter stop start traffic, or any traffic jams, and so much prefer the fun and sense of control that you get with a manual gearbox. And I actually like it when you floor it and it doesn't shift down, sometimes I just want as much power as the gear I currently am In can give me. Im driving an automatic right now and it absolutely annoys me that it always shifts down as soon as I push the gas pedal even a little bit.

Felix O. I agree mate. Just went from a mk7 dsg gti to a 7.5 R manual. I enjoy it sooo much more. The dsg was always in too high a gear - like most auto’s these days it is still tuned too much towards fuel economy. May I say I can’t believe the difference between my old gti and the 7.5 R. It is a considerably better car in every way.

Gas Pedal Subscribe learn to use a gearbox then you can select the right gear yourself

The review calls the auto an "upgrade". I'd consider it a downgrade. Autos are useful if you spend your time driving around town and they do work well with the dynamic cruise control but VAG insist on putting the paddle shifters on the wheel and get up and down the wrong way round on the shifter, removing any semblance of involvement.

Hopefully coming soon

Because nobody buys them. They are barely in the top 40 manufacturers by UK sales.

Too bad the UK is not the entire world. Mat's reviews are informative and interesting for everyone, not just UK buyers.

The Golf will cost more than the A3 when spec'd the same. EG A3 has leather & dual clutch - both very expensive options on the Golf!

@@smokeytom24 but Audi does not have parking sensors on the front as standard or the front pedestrian auto stop feature or the digital dash or the big screen

sandeep kumar, same parent company, Audi being the Lexus of VW.

Matt S The S3 hatch is a beautiful car. Anyone know if they're planning on releasing it in North America?

not really. It's got more class. And the Golf is more "look at me racer boy" looks.

Honfy Lam you may be correct. But because its Audi I really expect more from them in styling.

@ Honfy - neither car is classy, both are bought and driven by chavs.

sounds like someone is salty.

@@Danial0152 A true chav wouldn't afford these.