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3 жыл бұрынThis is our in-depth review of the VW ID.4. We're taking a look at Exterior, Interior and technology.
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@eleonik76 3 жыл бұрын
The question is,does it brake under 50k like all other VW😆
@autonewstv86 3 жыл бұрын
The Autogefühl team is killing it! Amazing review as always!
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@soscwon 3 жыл бұрын
Always appreciated your fine work!
@NinetyTres 3 жыл бұрын
It appears that they copied some design from Model 3 some 5 years ago Perhaps next iteration from VW in 5 years will look more like VW
@HappyCod43 3 жыл бұрын
You're on a roll, four reviews today, wow!
@skakamj0lk 3 жыл бұрын
I'm really happy they went with drum brakes. With the winter conditions and road salt we have in Norway this will for sure be a huge benefit in terms of maintenance.
@MrAppDev 3 жыл бұрын
I'd take that ID.4 over a Model Y any day. It just looks so much more like a complete car and not just a Model 3 with a higher roof
@NinetyTres 3 жыл бұрын
It's good to have choice innit
@SiisKolkytEuroo 3 жыл бұрын
@@antonthompson7838 hahahaha we'll see about that :D
@jh5kl 3 жыл бұрын
@@SiisKolkytEuroo south koreans are taking all markets, even the almighty american music and movie industry
@SiisKolkytEuroo 3 жыл бұрын
@@jh5kl what on earth does that have to do with Tesla vs Volkswagen
@emiliendurand640 3 жыл бұрын
Is VW the cheap brand of Skoda now ? The Enyaq looks way more premium than this, hum not sure about the VW group strategy here...
@lubosmotl5200 3 жыл бұрын
The strategy of the VW Group's strategist is to push Škoda to make cars similar to Dacia or some Chinese crap. However, VW and Škoda effectively have independent teams that try to do their best and which aren't controlled and can't be controlled by a "strategist" and Škoda - which is a company with 125 years of experience in finding simply clever engineering solutions - simply ended up with a cheaper car that is €10,000 more luxurious than ID.4. If VW Group wanted to erase its profit and go bankrupt soon, it could return to the "strategy", to ban Enyaq, and produce the sale-proof ID.4. Of course, the group may also do the opposite, i.e. to focus on the production of the better car, including the production in Zwickau in East Germany.
@Pepakudrna 3 жыл бұрын
Volks-wagen means "peoples car" and will never be taken as serious as Mercedes or Audi, so maybe they should position it that way (even though they most certainly will not)
@Keesiskaal 3 жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly, all new VW cars kinda look cheap now..
@MaximilianvonPinneberg 3 жыл бұрын
@@lubosmotl5200 I would disagree. That's how Skoda was in teh late 90s. Now, they are trying to push all brands upmarket. Audi on a par with Mercedes and BMW, VW to almost take over where Audi was, Skoda is now almost on a par with where Volvo was 10-20 years ago. Solid, semi-upmarket and dependable practical cars. SEAT is now on a mission to be VAG's Alfa Romeo (and possibly Jaguar). I agree with Emilien, the Enyaq looks much more upmarket than this, very similar to Peugeot in many ways (another midstream brand that is going upmarket). This ID4 looks like a normal family car without any flair or elements from a more upmarket car. Perhaps they don't want the Audi sales stolen by VW. In many ways, I like that VW are going back to their heritage, but this is just a little too far downmarket, especially after the cost savings done to the Golf8.
@rayenbow3281 3 жыл бұрын
@@Keesiskaal They don't look cheap externally but internally they are cutting corners everywhere and it shows, shhhh, don't tell anyone, they think we haven't noticed. It's false economy on their part. I've owned them for many years, looking to move on to another brand now.
@whatevernevermind5960 3 жыл бұрын
Those window, mirror & light controls are infuriating! Technology for technology’s sake. Why ruin the most used & simple controls In a car?!
@devilfriend 3 жыл бұрын
Because it reduces complexity which reduces manufacturing costs. I would agree with you if it were a regular gas car but it is incredible hard to build these EVs without losing money.
@peterpoppe4855 3 жыл бұрын
@@devilfriend if you depend on reducing manufacturing costs on changing switches to make your car profitable then the future doesn't look bright for your company. Not to mention that the simple controls which work perfectly already exists. Furthermore I don't know anyone who had. any problems with the window/light & mirror controls. To finalize : the old system was intuitive and far more safer than the new one ! Over to you....
@devilfriend 3 жыл бұрын
@@peterpoppe4855 I agree, this is why the most "successful" EV companies are still losing money. There are going to be a lot of sacrifices to make for a few years. Also, car makers are trying to pinch pennies every time they can so you have a point too.
@patrickdaly5988 3 жыл бұрын
Because they're cheap to manufacture. Touch screens have their place, but they should be banned there.
@peterpoppe4855 3 жыл бұрын
@@patrickdaly5988 fully agree
@barygol 3 жыл бұрын
I prefer the Skoda Enyaq
@hiiiofficial8306 3 жыл бұрын
No way vw id4 is more refined and premium I prefer the looks of the ID4 however some people prefer the Enyaq
@Aaron-ui9tj 3 жыл бұрын
It's cool, they will still sell this for over $40k in the US..... Who's going to make the first common man's EV ?
@jh5kl 3 жыл бұрын
@@Aaron-ui9tj done long ago, Renault, Nissan, even Volkswagen with the e up and its even cheaper brothers
@movax20h 3 жыл бұрын
Enyaq is a bit cheaper, and has some extra minor features here and there. Quality wise, all depends on the finish you order. From what I have seen the Enyaq seat are exactly the same as in ID.4. Not similar. The same. The high end versions of Enyaq are equally luxurious as ID.4
@vishnu009 3 жыл бұрын
Really appreciate the thoroughness of the review and the no non-sense approach to car reviews. Thanks
@jaybou007 3 жыл бұрын
Nice review! However, really not down with where VW is going. They’ve always been known to keep things slick and simple. It seems they now look for ways to overcomplicate things. Happy I didn’t even put down a deposit. Great work, Thomas!
@AnalogueKid2112 3 жыл бұрын
I just put a deposit on a Dusk Blue ID.4, pretty excited for it!
@t.6087 3 жыл бұрын
The Enyaq could easily be a SUV with a combustion engine from the optics. The ID4 looks like an electric car immediately. It's a wild vs. a simple design. Both will find their customers.
@hiiiofficial8306 3 жыл бұрын
I prefer the Volkswagen ID4
@thomasnox1141 3 жыл бұрын
@@hiiiofficial8306 well, you already call yourself “Volkswagen Official”...But I definitely prefer Skoda design
@tushitpalamkar9586 3 жыл бұрын
Wow...4 reviews today...you made my day Autogefühl :)
@catalicos 3 жыл бұрын
On time with the review as always 😎 Seems the ID.4 is more in line with what VW should offer although it shares some of the interior parts with the ID.3 like the front armrests and the IC, but it makes sense after all since the price is quite good being that it is an EV with a decent battery capacity. I like it I've just driven the ID.3 and, even after having seen all the videos online with it, I was still pleasantly surprised by the car. It really looks better seeing it in person. I expect ID.4 to have at least the same effect
@Rickster8560 3 жыл бұрын
Thomas, I like how you give your opinion of every detail about the car. Nobody has yet mentioned about the difference between the trim levels and whether the upgraded front and rear lights will come with the higher trim level. Also you explain about the rear drum brakes, where nobody else has done that. Thanks for showing what is under the front hood too. Your videos are always done with the highest quality. Thank you.
@autogefuehl 3 жыл бұрын
thanks Rick! Feel free to recommend :-)
@abcdLeeXY 3 жыл бұрын
I always feel like I need a cup of fine whisky in my hand to watch this channel’s review.
@oykkh29 3 жыл бұрын
Wow.. great video again Thomas 👌🏻💪
@Iiiiiii764 3 жыл бұрын
Again! The best review in web sites
@anandgokul 3 жыл бұрын
A very good and detailed review! None of the other reviews show the car close up and explain the features, nice to see the systems and car close up
@anthonymitchell9337 3 жыл бұрын
Great review Thomas! Nice car and your suit is great!
@skfunk4550 3 жыл бұрын
wow so many reviews in 2 days. Thomas is on a roll
@rmpumper 3 жыл бұрын
Not sure how I feel about the Skoda's LED front grill yet, but it sure looks better overall, as does the Seat alternative.
@VolvoMetal 3 жыл бұрын
Why would the led grill be a problem, it's an optional extra. I agree, vw's new models does not seem to be worth the premium over seat and skoda.
@cmartin_ok 3 жыл бұрын
I was lucky to see one in disguise wrap in the VW "showroom" in Central Berlin when I was there on holiday 3 weeks ago. It looks good in the metal as well as on video. The shape of the plastic trim on door bottoms is "very Renault"
@whip-8 3 жыл бұрын
I agree with you, doors seems very tall from the side with those big grey plastics
@keitholiver2304 3 жыл бұрын
As always Autogefuehl hits it right on the money... Let's Go!
@1981zayn 3 жыл бұрын
wow 2 new reveals in 1 day, Well done ! , I was waiting to see this. Not too much difference from the Skoda Enyaq as expected
@autogefuehl 3 жыл бұрын
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@MrTechfreak95 3 жыл бұрын
16:35 really a nice song, thanks for the tipp. And nice Review 👍
@yusufcet 3 жыл бұрын
The speaker is looking very slick. Nice suit, way of talking and expressing himself. Attention te details. great video
@miklu26 3 жыл бұрын
Thomas da best👏🏼
@andrewmontague2636 3 жыл бұрын
Another great review, Thomas. It will be interesting to compare this vehicle with Skoda Enyaq when full pricing and specification details are released
@matt7232 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for measuring the booth with metre especially with rear sits down. Great review!
@aboosalie9025 3 жыл бұрын
Only you doing every time best review
@autogefuehl 3 жыл бұрын
Thx so much!
@jorgecarrao2105 3 жыл бұрын
You're a pro, nice performance and very nice car!
@samwang5831 3 жыл бұрын
Looks simple and elegant!
@michtaker5414 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks as always Thomas 👍 But from the profile, i see a Peugeot 3008, that’s...special. Let’s see for the price now...because fighting the enyaq and the model Y, this ID4 has to be cheaper if Volkswagen want to sell it imho.
@brobrosu1600 3 жыл бұрын
Exterior: This ID.4 is the son of a 3008 and a Mazda CX-7.
@ZesPak 3 жыл бұрын
@@brobrosu1600 You take that back. Both the 3008 and CX-7 are infinitely better looking than this car!
@MarcAntoineBvl 3 жыл бұрын
Can't unsee the Peugeot 3008. Great video Thomas
@Abraxeses 3 жыл бұрын
Finally, we saw a beautiful electric car!👌
@thomasnox1141 3 жыл бұрын
Skoda Enyaq...
@OHM0LO 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another great in depth look at a new car! Something I'd really love if you guys could tell us is where hard-plastic/scratchy plastic starts in interiors.
@gdwlaw5549 3 жыл бұрын
You have become the reference in car reviews.
@swedishmotorshow 3 жыл бұрын
Thomas great that YOU observe and debate the lack of knobs and buttons. This needs to be adressed every day to the cheap manufacturers. Have they collectively fired the Human Factors department!
@pete9b 3 жыл бұрын
Nice one Thomas!!....
@autogefuehl 3 жыл бұрын
thanks Peter all the best to you!
@DrDiplMed 3 жыл бұрын
Great review. Thank you. I have just reserved an ID.4 "Pro".
@stocklee 3 жыл бұрын
So they cancel all the buttons in favour of laggy touchscreen interface? good job there VW
@movax20h 3 жыл бұрын
It still officially a beta software. It isn't actually that laggy, but could see improvements. The Skoda Enyaq has way faster interface for example. I will definitively wait for software improvements before considering ID.3 or ID.4.
@GreatGloves 3 жыл бұрын
Greetings from Finland!
@ufo639-q4m 3 жыл бұрын
Cool, I like it!
@pproffa7900 3 жыл бұрын
putting at least a netflix app in an electric car is a MUST! (because of the waiting time while charging)
@NinetyTres 3 жыл бұрын
Best multitasking EV=Tesla
@gerrycrisostomo6571 3 жыл бұрын
Very nice! Congratulations to Volkswagen for producing a world class electric vehicle. This is a good example that other German manufacturers like BMW and Mercedes Benz should follow.
@pierre-andreliagre1762 3 жыл бұрын
thank you thomas
@d947 3 жыл бұрын
The frond and the back are looking good!
@fakamada 3 жыл бұрын
VAG is exceeding its limits, design-wise. Enyaq was looking awesome. This one is also another great example of the same.
@makatron 3 жыл бұрын
These long form presentations are what makes me coming back to this channel. Does it comes in Thomas Blue™?
@lalosoria3242 3 жыл бұрын
I like it, it Will be my next SUV!!!
@Hvitserk67 3 жыл бұрын
I really like this car and I think it will be a great success. The best thing about ID.4 is that it manifests that VAG is now really starting to pick up the momentum with electric cars and this is a very good thing (they are the world's largest car manufacturer after all) :)
@DeniJasmina 3 жыл бұрын
Just reserved mine here in the US. One thing I like about the ID.4 amongst other things; is the fact that VW didn’t use any fake gauges on either of those LCD screens. Hate when car manufacturers use fake digitalized gauges on EVs.
@krane15 3 жыл бұрын
What is it with all these fake parts in cars? Did they have some mass resurrection of designers from the 1950?
@choosumfat 3 жыл бұрын
Play and pause pedals, lol. Lover it.
@rsdwall466 3 жыл бұрын
Very nice review brought so quickly after premiere. Btw please continue to call boot and not switch to trunk !!
@autogefuehl 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for tuning in, enjoy!
@oceanfroggie 3 жыл бұрын
A refreshingly honest viewing and frank opinion on issues such as the capacitive controls that do not offer tactile feedback and the sluggish infotainment system. Drum brakes??? The 0-100kph seems sluggish compared to budget EVs. At least it has a tow rating. Why only offer AWD with high performance? AWD essential in this part of the world in winter, but do not need rocket performance.
@funkyfin3023 3 жыл бұрын
Interior looks superior quality to id3 with some soft plastics but not up with Enyaq. I’m waiting for Audi version of id3. I cancelled my pre order of id3 after your review and sat in a 1st this week. It’s not up to Golf standard. So thanks for your honest review of id3.
@Zapp2007 3 жыл бұрын
Good review, would be nice to see the lower trim level of 1st edition to compare the inside trim
@PukOnline 3 жыл бұрын
Warum diese Türgriffe? Ich dachte die 'richtigen' Griffe wären ein Sicherheitsfeature, jetzt diese integrierten Lösungen...? Wie funktionieren die beim Unfall?
@zarzaf6414 3 жыл бұрын
it may be short front but it is made very clever to look like a normal suv. GJ!
@josepha.p.2639 3 жыл бұрын
Nissan Ariya will also be a good competitor.
@vikramsingha2312 3 жыл бұрын
@6:35 what was that? 😂 “no Frunk”
@user-yn5sk5ru5g 3 жыл бұрын
Good looking car. The Skoda Enyaq too. We've seen the concepts and prototypes riding around from Audi, but not much from Seat except the (beautiful) El Born....
@JBoy340a 3 жыл бұрын
Great review. Watching you play with the map and other features was painful. You weren't kidding about needing a new CPU or more efficient software.
@drsparwaga 3 жыл бұрын
Do you know why they keep adding the side tunneling in the front bumper Thomas? I thought it was creating more drag on the wheels. For example, on the RS7 they closed it up as it had no benefit apparently.
@d947 3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful car. Very clean
@runningman5871 3 жыл бұрын
The software looks terrible. I dunno why people don't just use google like the polestar 2. It's like some sort of 3g phone interface.
@plaxci 3 жыл бұрын
I couldn't agree more. I would much rather prefer the Android system for cars over this.
@jonpetter8921 3 жыл бұрын
In the long term it can be beneficial to have their own software. VW is new to the game, they will improving over time.
@runningman5871 3 жыл бұрын
@@jonpetter8921 Sure, but will they? This really does look rubbish and slow.
@jonpetter8921 3 жыл бұрын
@@runningman5871 VW is a huge corporation. If Tesla can do it why can t VW ?
@runningman5871 3 жыл бұрын
@@jonpetter8921 Because Tesla just has better engineers and trusts them. So Tesla make massive modifications every years to all products. The octovalve heat pump has had over 13 changes just this year. The model y is brand new, but they've just completely redesigned the manufacturing process to make the body in two completes stamping processes. They are light years ahead in terms of manufacturing.
@TheRustedPixel 3 жыл бұрын
I used to like VW cars, especially since around 2014, where they brought in very strong lines and geometric, boxy shapes to their design. Everything was chiseled and clean. Now these new electric cars are so blobby and shapeless. Like a mess on wheels. Their silhouette is ugly. I get it, the drag coefficient and stuff to maximize range but man Skoda are managing to make nicer looking cars and keep their design language. VW are just going for these odd, lumpy shapes.
@lubosmotl5200 3 жыл бұрын
Daniel Kuntzsch figured out what this VW design language is supposed to resemble. It's an artistic impression of inflammation or a wart or an abscess due to an allergy twitter.com/dk_tsl/status/1308809069579431941 The next model ID.5 will also be inspired by lung cancer.
@maddcrz 3 жыл бұрын
The Rusted Pixel thank you for describing how I feel about Tesla design
@Flex2212 3 жыл бұрын
@@lubosmotl5200 Are you a troll or just a hater?
@lubosmotl5200 3 жыл бұрын
@@Flex2212 - I am both, and also a retired Harvard professor.
@Flex2212 3 жыл бұрын
@@lubosmotl5200 Congratulations!
@yes8032 3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful car nice review again 👍 0:27 do you know what this song is called? Thanks
@florianj6490 3 жыл бұрын
From Eldorado to the Pleiades (instrumental) - DJoNemesis & Lilly
@yes8032 3 жыл бұрын
Florian J thank you 🙏
@Mickyel 3 жыл бұрын
I need one
@janvb59 3 жыл бұрын
The car looks very good, and we have already put ourselves on the list for it with 4 wheel drive. I have never had a car without spare wheels, and am very skeptical of the included compressor and the stick that usually comes with it. Is it possible to buy spare wheels for VW ID4, is there room for a narrow spare wheel under the lid in the luggage compartment, and in that case will the wheel bolts fit, or do you need other bolts? I hate low profile tires and rims, is it possible to have the car delivered with 18 "rims for summer and for winter wheels when the car is ordered new?
@pbentsonable 3 жыл бұрын
One of the best looking VWs. Don’t like the missing window switches or the white parts inside on the 1st edition. I’m boring I like the single color interior. Lol
@blue-ck9ns 3 жыл бұрын
dope car!
@NinetyTres 3 жыл бұрын
Would do with Matt Black wrap
@Mr321fly 3 жыл бұрын
@autogefuehl how did Honey Yellow look in real life? Which would you personally choose - Honey Yellow or Dusk Blue, or Mangan Grey?
@hlunden 3 жыл бұрын
Great review! I am looking for a new car which got enough room in backseat to carry three child seats(infant, 2 and 4). I like to buy an electric car. I got a Passat GTE at the moment. I don’t think I will get three in there, but is the Id 4 bigger/more spacey in the backseat than the Passat?
@kungula 3 жыл бұрын
great SUV, which luckily is a bit more compact than the Enyaq. I am looking forward to the 225 KW version which should make a bit more fun to drive.
@Secretlyanothername 3 жыл бұрын
Waiting for VW to announce this in Australia. Come on, we would like this now!
@vectorifix3218 3 жыл бұрын
I currently have 2018 Tiguan with horrible and dangerous DSG and I swore this is the last VW I will ever have - now with ID.4 I have to reconsider, really interesting car. Next car will be plug-in hybrid or EV. Tesla 3 / Y or ID.4... hmmmm. Excellent review as always!
@shroomyesc 3 жыл бұрын
The Skoda Enyaq looks superior, if not on the exterior then definitely in the interior.
@TheWitchfinderGenral 3 жыл бұрын
Really don't like the styling inside or out compared to the Skoda Enyaq. It'll be interesting to see what the Seat and Audi versions look like.
@alexpinto4118 3 жыл бұрын
Excelente veículo e uma autonomia muito boa. Contudo, para ter sucesso no Brasil, teria que ter uma maior altura do solo.
@davidgiles9751 3 жыл бұрын
Asking for one clarification please - is the pano roof actually fixed in place, and it just has an interior cover (sun shade) that slides front/back? Just curious as other VWs have a section of glass that opens up, in addition to the sliding interior cover. I actually hope it's a fixed glass roof, as VW and AUDI products have had a poor reputation for sunroof water leaks.
@toninocars 3 жыл бұрын
Looks like a good car.
@topthecat2259 3 жыл бұрын
Great review Thomas, do you think the move towards limiting top speed in EVs is dangerous especially on German autobahns???
@abraxastulammo9940 3 жыл бұрын
FSK 160 Freiwillige Schnelligkeits Kontrolle ;-)
@beyondtime4779 3 жыл бұрын
Nice looking car
@OlivierW11 3 жыл бұрын
I wish Thomas would offer more comparison points when he is comparing cars clearly built on the same platform.... i.e. Enyaq vs id4 look/feel/dimensions etc....
@cypvh74 3 жыл бұрын
not seeing those interior color options on the pre-order page for the US.
@NeilBlanchard 3 жыл бұрын
Any word on relative quality of the sound system?
@kevinn1158 3 жыл бұрын
Tesla take notes. None of the windows exploded. There's a AR HUD system and a instrument cluster. There's real mechanical door mechanisms so your children can exit the back of the vehicle even when there's a power failure. The paint seems to be covering all of the panels properly. The rear hatch is aligned and doesn't have a loud scrapping/ creaking sound. And a shade for the pano roof? Wow, will the marvels ever end? Tesla got the battery system spot on but the rest of their vehicle designs are still in beta testing. The 10th version of the Model 3 is just coming out. They'll figure it out.
@pedrog.643 3 жыл бұрын
Hi. Does anyone knoes what is the life expectancy for the batterys (in case that the car is used the proper way, ofcourse)? If the battery does damage, are we force to change the all battery, or the battery is made by modules, and we only change the module that is damage, as happen with the Toyota Batterys? Does anyone knows the cost of a new module of the battery, or the all new battery? Thanks.
@robertmariuszpozniak6482 3 жыл бұрын
Car have ventilated seats ? In tropic heating is not so much need. Also winshield and side windows are atermic ?
@izoyt 3 жыл бұрын
how drum brakes works with esc? nice design overall, it can be seen, this model is uni-geo.
@robertsbakker 3 жыл бұрын
I like the skoda enyaq better
@maciejdabrowski6694 3 жыл бұрын
Skoda is soo much better! So lack of character on VW side.
@Rick9482 3 жыл бұрын
Well that looks like an impressive effort. I do wonder what kind of pricing games dealers will be playing when this becomes available. With Tesla, you know where you stand but regular dealerships and their "Let me talk to the manager" style are old hat and that could be the deciding factor for me. Since diesel gate, VW has been on the outs with the public and it's going to take a lot of new attitude to get me into their dealers again.
@Group51 3 жыл бұрын
It looks so much better in blue.
@svendah 3 жыл бұрын
Great review. A difficult question to Thomas: How would you compare ID4 to the Audi etron? I have for some time wanted to buy the etron, but seeing ID4 (and Enyaq) makes me wonder what the difference is. We have 3 kids. Today we have two cars: Audi A6 allroad 2015, and Touran 2016. Obviously, the difference in quality is huge and I pick the Audi every day if I can get up before my wife. Now we want to go all electric, and sell both the Touran and A6 allroad. Is it correct to say that the etron is relative to ID4 in the same way that Audi allroad is relative to Touran? Or is the gap much reduced? In other words - does it make sense to buy an Audi etron or is it a stupid investment?
@autogefuehl 3 жыл бұрын
Good question. Like Tiguan vs Q8. Both good cars, the Audi is more refined, but logically not worth double the price.
@eleonik76 3 жыл бұрын
VW new philosophy. Modern lights,nice paint,and stuffed with the cheapest available crap under the hood
@pilotRajdowy 3 жыл бұрын
No other way they coud make it affordable. They packed a lot of $$$ into the new electric platform, the dealerships need their margins ...
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