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@orlovsskibet 3 ай бұрын
I've said this before, but it cannot be said enough. Bjørn you are really deserving the top position as EV tester and "influcener". So much hard work goes into this content, and I and many others really appreciate your effort. Combned with your entertaining way of presenting the cars, your content is just pure gold.
@dombelardo4909 3 ай бұрын
i dont care how cold i am starting sweat , i fell out of my chair laughing
@dombelardo4909 3 ай бұрын
Thanxx
@LittleSpot 3 ай бұрын
"I dont care, because I starting to sweat now" 🤣
@MrVolodus 3 ай бұрын
8:51 This page information is amazing! That is exactly what I want. INFORMATION. You know exactly what is your charging situation and you have possibility to do something with it.
@seiferyentertainment9258 3 ай бұрын
100% agree - but having only 39kw "rapid charging" that can be heated to 79kw if you pre-heat for 7 weeks, er I mean 47 damn minutes, is completely unacceptable. I want ability over information - but I want information too. I hate it in my Tesla Model 3 that I cannot manually pre-heat for instance. Not only is there no info from it - I cannot do it. I must "fake" it to go to a charger in the navigation etc. So stupid. We never use Teslas chargers, as we have "Clever"-charging. And the "you cannot make it" instead of "you will miss 2% if you attempt this route" - info is HORRIBLE.
@SteveLoughran 3 ай бұрын
It is! I don’t get why other car manufacturers put a lot more effort into animation charging than telling you things like battery temperature-and to have your max charge rate explicitly displayed is even more tangible. Now all we need is diagnostics when the car and charge refuse to work together.
@idiNty 3 ай бұрын
This seems to me quite efficient considering this low temperatures and the size of the car.
@jadoei13 3 ай бұрын
Yeah in the 1000 km test it consumed 258 Wh/km at 3 degrees C, the ID.5 was at 252 Wh/km but it was 12 degrees C. At a more comparable 5 degrees C the Model S plaid consumed 252 Wh/km but this car takes another banana box. Still, a Model Y (RWD, blade battery) consumed 224 Wh/km at 4 degrees C and has more space.
@fakkovv7186 3 ай бұрын
1000km test was also in the wet, seemed to rain the entire time. No clue what weather there was for MY though
@verygoodbrother 3 ай бұрын
@@jadoei13 Test carried out in the rain
@jadoei13 3 ай бұрын
@@fakkovv7186 I shortly checked a few minutes of it, and the MY also had some rain, but the situation could've been slightly different.
@simondehaas8784 3 ай бұрын
MY LR is probably a fairer comparison as the battery is similar size. It'sa bit less efficient than the rwd. @jadoei13
@SuperEgleh 3 ай бұрын
the new vw infotainment looks really good. and the feature that you can actually choose if you would like to preheat and know the consequence - just awsome. this must be a market leading implementation of preheating.
@rideronfire5017 3 ай бұрын
Bjørn! You are a machine💪🏻 pumping out videos
@tomascermak9205 3 ай бұрын
It's his main job.
@lucaitaly1975 3 ай бұрын
and life there is expensive... @@tomascermak9205
@rideronfire5017 3 ай бұрын
No shit, welcome after
@raceowl 3 ай бұрын
I really like these Hemsedal tests. A very entertaining real-life test 👍
@pachinger 3 ай бұрын
18:06 funny how it still spells out „Since charging“ fully and abbreviates the other items 😂
@OenkePoenke 3 ай бұрын
especially, as that's the longest of all three of them 🤨🤣
@pasi2305 3 ай бұрын
@@OenkePoenkethat is actually embarassing. SW 5.2 may fix the broblem in 2029.
@OenkePoenke 3 ай бұрын
@@pasi2305it's a glitch, not more. Laughable, yes. And it's almost in the normal range of those mistakes. Eg here at YT and eg at fb (two of the claimed "masters" of the software universe), for longer posts often shortens in the middle of a word and shows three dots and the clickable "show more" (or whatever that's shown as in English). Clicking on that, it sometimes "expands" to something that takes way less space than the dots and the expand message before, sometimes even not taking more space than the dots themselves (eg a character and a dot that ended the sentence).
@seha560 3 ай бұрын
I'd guess it is related to the original (german) text. The first two options are probably longer and thus it has been truncated hard for this options regardless the language settings. Doesn't make it less stupid but could at least explain it.
@higamato3811 3 ай бұрын
I think the original text is English, not German. The official company language is English. All German companies strive to be as American as possible. "Since start" would be "Seit Start" i.e. even shorter than in English.
@KevinT3141 3 ай бұрын
Just signed up for the pre-reservation list here in Canada.
@De4dCert 3 ай бұрын
You know in my Kia Niro EV I never get this stressed about range anymore. Bj0rn you are a legend at taking it too and obviously past the limit!
@berthogendoorn2133 3 ай бұрын
The ID7 Pro S with the bigger battery should be able to do the Hemsedal run!
@Garfi78 Ай бұрын
It will do it in less than 12 Parsec!
@michaelridley2864 3 ай бұрын
Proper EV testing - outstanding content! Bjorn really reaches the parts that other so-called reviewers really haven't got clue about.
@UK-Cycling 3 ай бұрын
Hi Bjørn, that’s a nice new test protocol. Best regards Martin
@danielstefanovic2604 3 ай бұрын
Looks like the kempower charger is upgraded to 200kw but the sticker isnt replaced.
@bjornnyland 3 ай бұрын
Korrekt
@dutchbavarian 3 ай бұрын
The VW software seems to be really good (better than weird Chinese software), especially looking at the charging speeds.
@ID.SuperFan-tq8xi 3 ай бұрын
Yes, it looks very nice.
@AltaSonata 3 ай бұрын
no worries, Chinese will copy software soon
@dutchbavarian 3 ай бұрын
@@AltaSonata if it was that easy with such complex systems. Luckily it is not.
@jeremymercer665 3 ай бұрын
I watch all of TB's content. I enjoy most of it. I like the testing of cars in a systematic fashion. Much more informative than typical reviewers. One thing I would change is the high-pitched "Oh shit! Oh shit!" when something dramatic is happening. That is headache-inducing.
@urbiso 3 ай бұрын
I realy like the dropdown menu, they shorten "Since start", but, much longer "Since charging", is kept in full length.
@MCSMIK 3 ай бұрын
Awesome video. Mighty entertaining 😂
@hundehausen 3 ай бұрын
I love this test
@slepppper 3 ай бұрын
Dom här testerna är riktigt bra!
@OveToranger 3 ай бұрын
13:36 Heeey, BEFRS shout out !!! Nice 😁👍 Was getting a bit nervous there it sounded like 🤣
@vhol93 3 ай бұрын
Wow wow wow !
@AA-qg2hu 3 ай бұрын
Need a separate spreadsheet for the burger review ✅
@swecreations 3 ай бұрын
Maybe something for the ID.7 with the bigger 92/86 kWh battery pack to beat. 😝
@s0012823 2 ай бұрын
I really love that we are trying to get the best out of the EV's instead of comparing it with a Diesel can do 1000km with 70liter.
@pigedehekkan 3 ай бұрын
Good job
@cloud4957 3 ай бұрын
Would love see the new Porsche Taycan with the faclift wich now has a charching speed of 320 kw and a bigger Batterypack
@dixikloos5352 3 ай бұрын
Pegeut 3008, Ioniq 6 and maybe with the EQE you could do the test. And BYD Seal would be very interesting
@ziggyyo 3 ай бұрын
31:05 Tesla urgently has to improve the dock for the charging plug on the V4 Superchargers. The thick V4 cables are too heavy. Tesla needs to prevent the plugs from falling out of the dock in the V4 stalls. Tesla already announced they are working on the necessary improvement.
@bjornnyland 3 ай бұрын
Fix is already coming.
@joergenbuch 3 ай бұрын
In my opinion, the uncontrolled heat loss of the battery could be mitigated by better thermal insulation to facilitate the fastest possible charging rate at the lowest use of electricity. The battery cooling system could be enhanced to allow optimal battery temperatures during hot periods.
@bastorbap 3 ай бұрын
Try this with EQE or EQS sedan.
@MAX-gk5qf 3 ай бұрын
that title scared me!! thought it said "I almost Died" xD
@lukyluke993 3 ай бұрын
Preheating of battery should be possible with App preheating of the car. Maybe only if the battery would be coldgating below -5 C
@andreverville9492 3 ай бұрын
Try the Ioniq 6, pretty sure it wil make it!
@drrai1974 3 ай бұрын
i give you a big LIKE for saying 40 kg is a weight of a Thai wify 😍😍😍
@kaasman78 3 ай бұрын
That is excluding her luggage though 😉.
@ziggyyo 3 ай бұрын
33:06
@rjung_ch 3 ай бұрын
@@kaasman78 😅
@rjung_ch 3 ай бұрын
@@ziggyyo spot on!
@chargeheadsuk 3 ай бұрын
Love the content!🔋⚡️💯
@RuneLaursen-xh4sc 3 ай бұрын
Igen tak bjørn 🎉....i Hope my next car Will be the Buzz😅😅
@Bodzio1982 3 ай бұрын
Bjorn. I love your content. I have CUPRA born 58 kWh. Do you think CUPRA will update their infotainment system to make look closer to VW?
@chewbster 3 ай бұрын
i would abuse the “precharge heating” function to have my battery at close to 30 in the garage. This would benefit me in range and chargespeeds down the road during my first trip. Starting @ 10C is not bad but starting around 20+C should do wonders. Summer range in the winter 😊
@bjornnyland 3 ай бұрын
Not possible without too much hassle. Car won't preheat battery unless you sit in the drivers seat, buckled up and in drive.
@hadtopicausername 3 ай бұрын
@@bjornnyland Did you try setting a departure time, to see whether that made a difference with regards to battery preheating? It does in the older software versions, but I don't know about SW4, which the new cars come delivered with.
@sk.43821 3 ай бұрын
@@bjornnyland Do you believe battery heating to keep the battery at 10 °C could be a useful option or is it wasted energy? Can slight heating reduce internal resistance of the battery and thus add range? Does it make a difference or is the increased consumption due to cabin heating the main reason you couldn't make it back home?
@SteveLoughran 3 ай бұрын
@@bjornnylandeven if plugged in and a departure time set? I’m actually getting really into tracking battery temp over winter -I now think it’s a complete failing of car battery and charge displays to not show this. More effort has been put into animations of electricity going into the car than a number in the corner saying “current battery temperature”. I can see it as a passenger in ABRP and an OBDII Bluetooth dongle - but that’s complicated. Does at least shown that when my wife drives down the M4 motorway on an 11C day, our battery can get up to 21C after 30 minutes, so matches interior temp. Preheating then only adds 4C as we get near the charge point. Going across London though, only 16C after 45 min. Clearly urban driving isn’t generating much heat in the engine or battery and our car (BMW) is prioritising cabin temp over battery
@uffepatrong1770 3 ай бұрын
"The ecoflow is about the weight of a thai wife" - did he really say that?!? 🙂😝
@Rajonas007 3 ай бұрын
For everyone who is thinking about buying ID 7 you need to pay extra for all the nice things: lights, heated seats and message and other stuff
@garrus8875 3 ай бұрын
Nope
@lukyluke993 3 ай бұрын
Always go deeeeep😂
@tridruankham2657 3 ай бұрын
❤❤❤
@lukyluke993 3 ай бұрын
Bigger battery with 86kWh should fix the range
@ericvet8b 3 ай бұрын
Pretty good at such low temperatures. VW have finally produced a good quality EV…, and seems to have improved a lot on the software… just a few glitches and functionality
@Aztasu 3 ай бұрын
The VW ID.7 really is a great car, it just ticks all the boxes and has no real weak point. The bigger battery surely would have made it without a charging stop. Peugeot e-3008 with the big battery option might be the first (compact) SUV to complete this trip without a stop, could be interesting to test it. Unfortunately it won't be available before the summer, so it could be a contender for the next winter.
@BSquare1989 3 ай бұрын
At that price point it should tick a lot of boxes. Also the infotainment really is not in the same league as the rest of the car (as Bjorn clearly shows as well). Still much better offering than the id3 though
@danielstefanovic2604 3 ай бұрын
the big battery for e-3008 isnt coming until next year. Lucid ait could problaly do it too, its has like 700km wltp
@royalgm 3 ай бұрын
@@danielstefanovic2604 Lucid Air not in EU yet and it will be over 100k when it launches for the cheapest model. Zeekr (Geely) has a 140kwh pack and that powertrain can do over 850km in real world conditions in summer.
@Popdog76 3 ай бұрын
Both are overly priced....in the UK.
@anthonyn3774 3 ай бұрын
BMW i4 eDrive40 might be a good one to try.
@eaokalle9112 3 ай бұрын
But did it pass the sleep/camp-test?
@macki5542 3 ай бұрын
I’d like to see the ev9 in this test. 🍿
@user-qz8cw3ks8b 3 ай бұрын
@bjorn - can you do model y
@berthogendoorn2133 3 ай бұрын
I am having difficulty in finding any real faults with the ID7 Pro, but is the ID.7 Pro S with the larger battery available in Norway for review? In Canada that extra range would be handy for our big country!
@kenion2166 3 ай бұрын
The price and missing performance version
@horuswasright 3 ай бұрын
Expensive. Especially when it comes to Canada, look at Golf R prices, it's crazy.
@OenkePoenke 3 ай бұрын
@@kenion2166mind you, it's in the same class as EQE, i5 and Model S (E-segment, Executive) - and It's way cheaper than those
@christianlinke380 3 ай бұрын
I like the weight unit....Thai wife😂
@ziggyyo 3 ай бұрын
33:06
@manfredo4287 3 ай бұрын
Maybe Ioniq 6 RWD can make it?
@arekfpv3631 3 ай бұрын
I think that it will be fair not to preheat the car using some heating devices inside the garage. The average person will just jump to the car and off we go. Then we can talk about proper energy consumption from cold to warm batteries. That's just my thoughts. I watch almost all your videos. Great work.
@bjornnyland 3 ай бұрын
I already preheated but the battery would not heat up.
@freddydad1 3 ай бұрын
👍👍
@7necromancer 3 ай бұрын
Take a Mercedes EQS 450+ on the Hemsedal challenge!
@larryspiller15 3 ай бұрын
Why not a non plaid S???
@learnmore-qc6ji 3 ай бұрын
Tesla model 3 standard range Higland maybe
@marcelguldemond2523 3 ай бұрын
Bjorn, does this one have the heat pump? I would guess that a heat pump would make it around 5% more efficient around 0C.
@bjornnyland 3 ай бұрын
Standard in Norway
@Chris89cv 3 ай бұрын
18:08 since charging was not shortened… tithe longest text still fits in there… se Germans 😂
@rickwookie 3 ай бұрын
Oh no! Only 36 kW charging available! Yeah, that’s my Honda e on a good day.
@AlexandreMoleiro 3 ай бұрын
What's up with the "Christmas" lights on street poles at 07:31 ?
@bjornnyland 3 ай бұрын
What about it?
@AlexandreMoleiro 3 ай бұрын
Is it some kind of celebration or do they just kept the lights on from last christmas ?
@bjornnyland 3 ай бұрын
They just kept the christmas lights. My neighbours are the same.
@pasi2305 3 ай бұрын
As you are keeping soaking wet cars in your garage I suggest that you buy somekind of air dryer device from Biltema etc. to keep the garage healthy.
@bjornnyland 3 ай бұрын
I already have it.
@peter4499 3 ай бұрын
Tesla Model 3 HL rules!
@NIAtoolkit 3 ай бұрын
31:05 do V4 cables easily drop in the cold or was someone being lazy
@bjornnyland 3 ай бұрын
Is that a question
@ziggyyo 3 ай бұрын
Tesla is already working on a solution.
@pakaran23 3 ай бұрын
Eco flow=Thai wife=40kg.😂
@kwiks987 3 ай бұрын
Does it have a baguette holder like the Renault 5?
@H3aby84 3 ай бұрын
Asking the BIG questions I see.
@kwiks987 3 ай бұрын
Sure. This is a matter of life and death in some countries.
@H3aby84 3 ай бұрын
@@kwiks987 of course. If a french person can't take Le Baguette in their car all hell would break loose 😋
@helmutfriedl3482 3 ай бұрын
No, but it comes with a saussage cup and a brezzel hook :-)
@timogronroos4642 3 ай бұрын
It comes with a sausage holder with a massage function
@TfGamess 3 ай бұрын
The infotaiment looks like it was programmed in 2013
@Bud_Terence 3 ай бұрын
@bjornnyland Some alternatives/competitors for this challenge would be: Ioniq6 or BYD Seal. Roughly same shape and batterysize.
@KissTamas3 3 ай бұрын
Great content as always! I look forward to seeing the Plaid or Palladium test. What bugs me is VWs reluctance to put the charging port to the left side of the car. This is a brand new design yet they have not done it. So this car similar to every VW that will take up two charging stations at most chargers.
@lukasweishaupt2708 3 ай бұрын
Please take a moment and think about all the people that can't charge at home and rely on on-street charging. The AC cable isn't allowed to be on the street and parking against the flow of the traffic also isn't allowed. The AC port needs to be on the right side for them. If the charging station is designed correctly, there isn't any downside of having the charge port on the right side as well, so I definitely prefer it that way.
@bjornnyland 3 ай бұрын
Get longer cable. Problem solved
@lukasweishaupt2708 3 ай бұрын
@@bjornnyland That could be said about HPC stations as well. A longer AC cable on the other hand, won't solve the legal problem. Like I've said, in many cities the charging handle sticking out on the left side of the vehicle while parking on the right side of the street is seen as an obstruction which is potentially dangerous for bicycles especially at night. The fine for that is 500€.
@kaasman78 3 ай бұрын
@@lukasweishaupt2708Must be illegal to not fold your side mirrors then...
@KissTamas3 3 ай бұрын
@@lukasweishaupt2708 1 - You say that Tesla should change the chargers that were designed and installed up to 12 years ago at the time when VW released its latest and greatest diesel engine. There are 50.000 Tesla chargers do you expect those to be changed so that they fit the German car that was designed last week? 2 - When I plug in the charging cable into my car which has the charging port on the left hand side it barely sticks out more than my mirror. Do people get 500 EUR fine in Germany for leaving the mirror unfolded because they are considered as obstructions? 3 - EVs were designed to be charged at home, work, at shops or with Superchargers on the road. What you describe is a very special scenario when someone has no access to home and work charging and doesn't want to use Superchargers or chargers at shops and lives nearby a public curb-side charger. I don't think that most EV buyers fall into this category.
@belowme4927 3 ай бұрын
calgon
@Blasterxp 3 ай бұрын
Drove 150km/h on Autobahn with 5%, no issue ..... Maybe in DE they don't use low percentage hmmm
@bjornnyland 3 ай бұрын
1) It wasn't -20°C in Germany 2) Faster driving means higher temperature in the battery
@drfisheye 3 ай бұрын
The powerlimit was caused by the cold batteries, because cold batteries can't deliver all their power. Just like it's always at the start of the winter when old and cold 12v batteries fail at starting ICE cars. And reversedly, EV batteries can be charged fastest when they are warm, hence the preheating before fast-charging.
@noemieracine7733 3 ай бұрын
I have an Ioniq 6, could i get 100kw charging speed with a very cold battery if my battery is very low?
@bjornnyland 3 ай бұрын
And then?
@noemieracine7733 3 ай бұрын
@@bjornnyland You said that there was no coldgate because the soc was very low. I never heard before that a very low battery would not coldgate.
@Joe-ud2hb 3 ай бұрын
Great video Bjorn, the cabin seems noisy enough or maybe the mic is too goooood
@bjornnyland 3 ай бұрын
ID7 is very quiet. About the same noise levels as Mercedes EQS and BMW iX.
@EPicurux 3 ай бұрын
I guess that part of the software has been developed in the US! :-P
@vitaetes 3 ай бұрын
The ioniq 6 can do it no?
@OenkePoenke 3 ай бұрын
For comparison, Ioniq 6 was 20 minutes faster (9h30m compared to 9h50m ID.7) on 1000km challenge, but at 4°C more and, which matters more, dry roads. Winter tires for both, but aero rims on the Ioniq 6. Nominal battery size is the same. Consumption was 230Wh/km for Ioniq 6 and 258 Wh/km for ID.7.
@michalvaner3167 3 ай бұрын
Am I the only one who gets scared when an BEV talks about „Ignition“ in its screen? 😈 Would it make sense to include the new Scenic in this test? It is likely going to be less efficient, but claims 87kWh usable battery size, which is more than this.
@christianlinke380 3 ай бұрын
Yes, because also in older ICE car it just drained the 12 v battery when activating ignition. It did not actually start the ICE.
@drfisheye 3 ай бұрын
The Scenic charges quite a bit slower than the ID.7. It's the main disadvantage of the current French cars.
@michalvaner3167 3 ай бұрын
@@drfisheye But AFAIK it should have quite a long range, so the number of times one needs to charge in the middle of journey might be small. And it's a lot cheaper, at least in my country. I'm not surprised French cars charge slowly. French are famous for how long their lunches and other meals take, so they have the time 😇. Nevertheless, I've seen some graphs of a charging curve where it held almost 150kW up until some 50% of battery. That might be lower than ID.7, but it's not terrible either.
@drfisheye 3 ай бұрын
@@michalvaner3167 it's cheaper yes. In terms of charging according to the EV Database: charging from 10 to 80% would take 40 minutes and gets you 333km range. The ID.7 would take 28 minutes, giving 331km range. Not saying the Renault is bad in this regard, but not as good as the ID.7. It's not as efficient and charges much slower. I don't drive 1000km in one day in my holidays so the Renault would probably work fine for me.
@LuciaGomez-yb3om 3 ай бұрын
MEB shieeeeettt 💩 That software 🤦♂️
@apicharjiratanan4285 3 ай бұрын
Why not just buy thr press car ? I'm sure they'll give you discounts
@bjornnyland 3 ай бұрын
Because I can't afford it. I owe Idehus (the company who built the house) about 4 million baht. And in addition I owe the bank 10 times more for the regular house loan.
@apicharjiratanan4285 3 ай бұрын
สู้ๆนะพี่ will keep watching your vds
@ErikHederberg 3 ай бұрын
Model Y LR snälla Björn 🥳
@colmranger 3 ай бұрын
Porn, charging porn lol 😅
@jevgeniardassov 3 ай бұрын
Sooo , what about advertised 621 km range? I guess no chance? 😂
@bjornnyland 3 ай бұрын
That's WLTP. If you understand how WLTP is measured you will know that this trip during winter is nowhere near WLTP.
@danielsalt363 3 ай бұрын
Why did since charging fit in the box for text but not shorter words, silly germans 😂
@olebrom200 3 ай бұрын
xpeng g9
@peternystrom921 3 ай бұрын
The biggest problem with VW and the ID cars is all the extra trim levels, i been going true them like 50 times and i still have absolutly 0% clue what they add, it would be such a big help to actualy have a video going true exactly every one of them. You can add trim for like 15 000 USD and you still dont know what it is.
@stefan2796 3 ай бұрын
Agree. That is where they make (extra) money. But there are sooo much choices. Tesla is more straightforward, i prefer that.
@SteveLoughran 3 ай бұрын
And that’s different from BMW and Mercedes? it’s a real legacy of the classic “dealer upsell” business model. Tesla, like polestar, have gone for the “three check boxes on the web page” model -which probably has better resale, value as it is more transparent about what you get when you buy a used vehicle.
@Zedus-rl9hp 3 ай бұрын
The ID7 is a good step in the right direction and a very nice car to drive, but the overall package is "only" a good average. It doesn't have any major weaknesses, but it doesn't set any new benchmarks either - the competition has certainly made greater progress here or still ahead. BEV market leader in 2025, as was once announced, will still not be possible. But as a company vehicle alone, the ID7 will find buyers, at least in Europe. If the price was reduced a bit, it would be even more interesting
@user-br8ny2it9t 3 ай бұрын
Which car is better in this class and price?
@Zedus-rl9hp 3 ай бұрын
@@user-br8ny2it9t That's always in the eye of the beholder, since "better" is always quite subjective. I can only speak for our company: we had the ID7 for testing, so I gave a “conclusion” here. We are looking for a replacement for our old Model 3P, but will now replace it with a Model 3 LR. This was supported by the higher trailer load (we often have to tow a variety of trailers), shorter vehicle with almost the same trunk volume, uniform operation (we use Model 3&Y), uniform and great software connection for the fleet manager, slightly better fuel consumption (also with 4WD), Ranger Service (works perfectly for us), no mandatory service appointments (we do it ourselves), 20% cheaper price
@YvesGeiser 3 ай бұрын
It's nice to see but -20 is killing SOH, especially 0-100 SOC experiments. The current weak point of EV's IMHO.
@bjornnyland 3 ай бұрын
Incorrect. -20°C is *not* killing SoH.
@YvesGeiser 3 ай бұрын
@@bjornnyland Can you explain why not please? As I understand this type of battery chemistry can crystallize and loose capacity when ions have to move fast and temparature plays a crucial role. But I am happy to understand this better, if I am wrong.
@tonibrucker9187 3 ай бұрын
Car almost died - its for me a typical headline for not buying an ev 😂
@stefan2796 3 ай бұрын
A power limit when you're driving on the highway is very dangerous, especially in Germany. A minimum of 80 km/h should be maintained, not 50 or 60 km/h.
@davidstud3952 3 ай бұрын
with 20kW you still can do 80km/h, Bjorn was going uphill. you shouldn't be on the highway with SoC
@AndrewTSq 3 ай бұрын
@@davidstud3952 20kw is like 27hp. which is roughly what a Volkswagen beetle had back in 1945, and that car had a topspeed of 105km/h, 0-100km/h in 50sec. But that car was 800kg, and this is 2200kg, so yes you could probably reach 80km/h but not uphill.
@Tschacki_Quacki 3 ай бұрын
@@davidstud3952 Why should I not be on the highway with 5% SoC if my goal or charging stop is only a few km away? My EV from 2019 can drive 130km/h at 1% SoC without any issues at all.
@davidstud3952 3 ай бұрын
@@Tschacki_Quacki just as precaution, for instance I don't wanna see a traffic jam forming in front of me with such a little SoC or find out that my planned charging station is kaputt
@Tschacki_Quacki 3 ай бұрын
@@davidstud3952 I agree but that ain't the point? We are talking about such a drastic power limit that it basically reduces the real range of the car by a few percent. Ain't nobody gonna drive around with "but it's still good for 80km/h if we're not going uphill". I doubt that VW is having a different opinion and would expect them to tune that stuff a little more towards consumer friendliness. Hopefully through software.
@AlvinBul 3 ай бұрын
I am sorry but this is embarrassing. I've driven many times below 0%bwith my tesla and was never worried. I am now on 100k km and still soon did 15 km below 0 in cold weather.. Was never worried or had to go dog slow. The screen of the vw still looks laggy. The only thing I envy are the headlights.. I've driven German cars with matrix headlight and they are indeed amazing. .. But to beg for power at 4% is pathetic..
@bjornnyland 3 ай бұрын
*ehem*... kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qdBjqbiZmrjVfZc.html
@drfisheye 3 ай бұрын
Have you ever driven at -20C?
@2TOKE69 3 ай бұрын
VW 🥺
@robertbezak7605 3 ай бұрын
In the previous videos I already thought that VW had finally improved somehow, but the opposite is true 😂😂 . So I'm still sticking to the principle, I don't want any electric car from VW group for the next 10 years.
@bensontek 3 ай бұрын
VW's software is like -10 years of Tesla.🤔
@dixikloos5352 3 ай бұрын
Except for the manual Pre Heating. That's a very nice future
@sworksm552 3 ай бұрын
Power limit @8%. Why???? Tesla Killer.😅😅😅😅
@danielpenov 3 ай бұрын
Cold battery.
@kaasman78 3 ай бұрын
It's difficult to correctly predict the SoC of a battery. Also, we don't know the state of the BMS calibration or the balance of the pack. Like someone said...the pack was very cold, that also screws around with pack performance. In the end, this car handled the cold and low state of charge pretty well up the hill. Preventing sudden death of the pack. Even the car's prediction was pretty good. All in all, seems like a good car (8/10) and pretty good EV (7/10).
@bjornnyland 3 ай бұрын
Tesla Model 3 had same issue. They fixed it by heating up battery at low SoC.
@sworksm552 3 ай бұрын
@bjornnyland but do you think VW will fix it also. Or you have to buy a new car? 😉
@kenion2166 3 ай бұрын
@@sworksm552 I mean they promissed so many OTA updates when the ID3 came out and they completly fucked up like everyone expected
@Lucas-wp2ph 3 ай бұрын
You are driving an electric car and you are saying you have a power limit when slowing down while going uphill. Then you are confused that you suddenly do not have a heater.😂 Of course it will come back as soon as you have some power again like when you were going downhill.🙈
@bjornnyland 3 ай бұрын
Tesla and all other EVs doesn't behave like this.
@Lucas-wp2ph 3 ай бұрын
@@bjornnyland The power limit is the Bms limiting power. So if you have a limit of 30kW and using 30kW for driving you have 30-30 so 0 kW for your Massage and heating. Also my mx-30 does exactly the same👍😊
@simonengvall7433 3 ай бұрын
One of the best EV videos I have ever seen so far! I deals with the reality of BEVs having shorter range than ICE cars especially noticeable in cold weather. On top of that a lot of changes in elevation. For it makes me think the ID7 will be my next car even more!
@dellyet 3 ай бұрын
So many disadvantages with 400v systems, lucky they soon gets over to 800v
@simonengvall7433 3 ай бұрын
@@dellyet Are VW really doing that?
@TheProAndTheNoob1 3 ай бұрын
This car proofs that VW doesn't know how to make EVs, this is why they are trying to stop chinese car with their politics 🤷♂
@ptuomo 3 ай бұрын
Did we watch same video? VW performed pretty well in every aspect especially when comparing to older ID4 and ID3
@TheProAndTheNoob1 3 ай бұрын
@@ptuomo performed well if you consider only their cars, because they are struggling against other brands.
@user-br8ny2it9t 3 ай бұрын
Which chinese car is better. And please concrete, what VW politics?
@TheProAndTheNoob1 3 ай бұрын
@@user-br8ny2it9t BYD, NIO, xPeng, even the Xiaomi SU7 is bettere than VW EVs, I'm talking about german/european politics, not VW politics.
@user-br8ny2it9t 3 ай бұрын
@@TheProAndTheNoob1 ok no further questions. China EV stocks are not performing in this way you expect?
@SenadDervisevic 3 ай бұрын
How do you heat scavenging from battery if battery is cold?? Battery getting cold from cold environment cold wind under the car. Heat scavenging is just one off the stupid theories 🥱
@bjornnyland 3 ай бұрын
Easy. It's -20°C to -10°C outside and "only" -2 to +2°C in the battery. The battery is a lot warmer than ambient temperature.
@OenkePoenke 3 ай бұрын
@@bjornnylandand a heat pump not only can, but usually does scavenge heat from a medium (outside temp, ground water), that is colder than the temperatue it delivers - like 35°C heating system (floor heating), taking -5°C outside air as the heat source - as heat pumps could actually be called "heat lifters". You know that of course, @SenadDervisevic apparently doesn't.
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